Imagine if that instructor had been paying real attention to the weather ahead of time instead of dunking on a kid for internet points. They might still both be here today. It's pretty tragic
The fact that the 911 operator was laughing her ass off while the caller was drowning is very sickening and the fact that she faced no repercussions is infuriating
The fact that Debra remained so sweet and even apologized to that horrendous monster of a dispatcher…. There is a special place in hell for such a cruel person
I know 911 operators are usually apathetic but she’s an absolute monster. Who cares if it was your last day on the job. I can’t believe she can live with herself after that, I couldn’t.
@@impermanence4300 Yeah, maybe apathetic wasn’t the right word. But I meant to say desensitized, if the operator was also panicking he/she would be wasting precious time.
Also I think it was brilliant that he checked the plane so thoroughly. Even Ry-an.Air doesn't check before a flight any longer. Just a quick turnover, not even cleaning inside. That young man was a proper Pilot, the 'instructor' was the dud.
It's extra depressing when it happens to such a bright young person. The kid had a dream, a clear vision of what he wanted his future to look like, and he was pursuing his passion earnestly. That is something that very few people can say. I can't stand when it happens to someone like that.
That McKeller spent his time posting on Snapchat instead of properly mentoring the lad. The egotistic maniac took with him an aspiring pilot who only wanted to learn. That's heartbreaking, really.
Hu’s case is really scary. Knowing that the whole campus is covered by cameras, yet he wasn’t caught on any of them before leaving, and the fact that shoelaces most likely wouldn’t hold a body for that long makes the whole story feel super unsettling and disturbing.
@@miraculous-tales Yeah, this comment is about a potential conspiracy theory within the Chinese government of sorts at one of the biggest middle schools in history, not about a sex offending teacher with multiple STDs.
Debra crying and apologizing to Donna for snapping at her because she's so scared, and then asking her for her name and thanking her for being with her....that really gets me in the gut. That poor woman.
Honestly, she should’ve hung up on the dispatcher and called again for another operator, or asked to be put through to someone else. -Although I understand she probably didn’t want to hang up in such a desperate situation. Her family seem to have the same roll over and ‘go where the wind blows’ attitude not sticking up for her so can’t really blame her individually for having no voice.
The last woman is absolutely heartbreaking! The fact nothing happened to the emergency responder is also insane! How you’d could say SHUT UP even if it is your last shift it’s not like you work in a supermarket…
Omg hi roly, I didn't expect to see you here. I watch a lot of videos like this, and that last story really affected me so much. My heart is so broken for Debra! She was so grateful and kind to the dispatcher and got treated in the most cruel way in return. How could she not have 1 shred of empathy in that position. Omfg
True. It’s akin to a police officer saying, “Hey, it’s my last shift. Who cares if I search for and seize evidence without a warrant?” as if the last shift is some magical pass to be horrible.
Omg Roly! I love your videos with Luxeria, you guys are too funny. Perfect Duo for reacting to videos😊. Also I totally agree, that video was beyond sad and disturbing! The woman wasn’t even being rude at any point, she apologized for nothing. In other words even in such distress she tried to please the other person and be extra kind. It’s so sad 😢 I can’t believe she didn’t get any repercussions from handling the call that way. Last day at work or not!!!
The last video makes me physically ill. To have Debra just stuck with no hope drowning and Donna being the last person to talk to is such an awful way to go. I’m sorry but Donna telling someone to shut up when she’s literally on the verge of drowning is absolutely disgusting. I wish Debra never had to go through this fate.
Wtf has diversity go to do with what the commenter said?? She’s just saying she wishes that Debra didn’t have to drown, diversity has nothing to do with that, you made no point whatsoever! 😂
My jaw literally dropped when you said they found her 12hrs later. That poor woman’s last moments were filled with fear and laughter from someone who was supposed to help and comfort her
The entire point of being an instructor is to instruct people who aren't perfect in the field, hence why they're taking lessons in the first place and are awkward about it. That dude somehow never realized that perfect students are supposed to be rarities, not the norm.
As I did see in this story there was ominous weather, and with the student still becoming experienced to soon be getting his pilot license, and having the stress of an apathetic instructor, I shudder to think that there might have have been safety protocols not taken because the young student had that hanging on his shoulders the foul attitude of a mentor. Tragic 😔 🙏
My little brother is a flight student. I am crying for Connor. I couldn’t imagine. So, young and just trying to work his way into making his living. My heart goes out to his family.
Yeah, the kid was working hard on making his dream come true and reacted so maturely to the instructors unprofessional and meanspirited behavior. It's heartbreaking. He would have become I great pilot. Much success to your little brother.
The way Mckellar acted was absolutely disgusting. If he had been as thorough as Conner then maybe things would've been different. Its a shame honestly.
I've been a firefighter for 18 years and I've never been so sickened by a dispatcher before. That woman should never work again, anywhere. I wish there were some criminal charges that could be Levied against her. What a scumbag.
unfortunately there were never any charges filed or any sort of action taken whatsoever. The department she worked for has even defended their decisions to not do anything.
Debbie was so kind to the 911 operator even as she was dying. She kept apologizing over and over, even though she did nothing wrong. That’s genuinely one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. She died feeling like she was a burden to someone who was supposed to be doing their job.
@@jasonvargas7564 I can only hope she has nightmares every night the roles are reversed- but unfortunately that would require she had any amount of humanity and empathy in her..
@@jasonvargas7564i’m not religious but if I was this would seriously make me question my god edit - i did not mean to start any arguments, please stay respectful and remember we are talking about a woman who lost her life!
Debra's family forgiving that monster is just wow...I can see where she got her demeanor from, she was so respectful to that undeserving operator. I entirely understand her mom dying from a broken heart. May they rest peacefully
Sometimes the only way to progress in life in peace is by forgiving those who 100% wronged you. Else you're making your own life miserable yourself, without the wrong-doer being affected by it in any way. It's not really about forgiving the person, it's about letting go of anger and frustration and allowing yourself to move on.
@@hyenabite That's a stupid mentality that'll get you used and manipulated by assholes in life. Forgive only those who TRULY really want to repent, and have shown it through their action.
@@i_like_lemons how about i forgive whoever the fuck i want and live my life however the fuck i want because it's my life and not yours, hm? mind your business bro
As a 911 call taker, I can say the last section made me tear up. There is no excuse to say to a person who is clearly distressed to shut up. There is no reason to place blame on anyone. I'm glad that dispatcher quit-- what a disgrace.
That's the majority of emergency call takers. They don't give af 99% of the time and I have never had a good experience nor has anyone I have ever known of
@giri5384 similar in terms of how the person was responding, but not the same situation. I keep in mind that, no matter what, they're going THROUGH it.
I get that 911 operators have to be calm and collected during a call, but jesus christ that lady had no empathy for that poor woman. Genuinely hope she never manages to live that down, considering her face and name are all public.
i am so absolutely heartbroken by the last one. literally cried while i listened to that woman dying and the fucking dispatcher couldnt even fein empathy. what an absolute demon, i hope it haunts her.
28:13 I have multiple questions. 1) How did Hu know about the blind spot in the cameras? 2) What about the other students that disappeared there?! Were they ever found? Did they also disapoear at blind spots? Cause if so, theres no way the school, or someones who works there isnt imvolved.
@@mimik222 yah the cops came out later an said had the lady not went nuts she would have survived. The water neevr went above the top of the car. She lost her shit an downed instead of using survival instinct.
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Some people just shouldn't be 911 operators. There's absolutely zero reason to be like that towards a woman who honestly believes her life is in danger. Telling her "I need you to shut up" isn't helping anything. My brother-in-law is local 911 operator, and they just had a situation with a new hire getting really nasty with a person who was calling because they thought they heard someone breaking into their home. This new hire had been brought on for overnight work, and knew that going into things. He had decided to take a little snooze, got VERY ANNOYED to have to answer a possible distress call, gave the person all kinds of attitude, and once the actual police got to the scene it was very easy to see that someone indeed broke in and robbed this woman while she hid and cried in a bedroom closet. He was fired that night after his supervisor listened to the recorded call. I didn't get to hear it for myself, but my brother-in-law sure did. He was absolutely amazed that someone who supposedly wanted to be a 911 operator could be that callous and uncaring.
@@Emlane09 honestly some people would remember that this world is a blessing and that the thing making our blood run cold happens to be monsters doing impressions of human beings
Donna wouldn't be laughing if she were on the other end of that phone call. No job should ever hire an emotionless, cruel and complacent individual. RIP Debra
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunYes, because a smart, collected and sensible individual laughs at another person who is terrified they’re going to drown, and tells them to shut up. Have some empathy.
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunokay but maybe have some dignity for the human life that was lost? she was telling this woman to shut up while she was dying. Imagine that being the last thing said to you before you die an extremely painful death.
he was 22 years old he was just a little boy it is ridiculous they hired him as a flight instructor. of course a 22 year old boy is not mature enough to teach such a dangerous and complex activity. the flight company should face repercussions for hiring him
Whether or not Donna was still employed as a 911 dispatcher shouldn't matter. She should've had criminal charges against her. At the very least involving negligence.
I can't imagine what kind of law would actually apply to file any charges against her; it's not like she wasn't doing her job. Despite the rudeness, she probably did what was legally "required" of her (sending someone to the location). You can't really save a drowning person with kindness, after all; anyone else probably wouldn't have been able to do any better. I'd say her demeanor was pretty despicable, but likely nothing criminal. The worst punishment she could get is being fired at that point, and since she was already leaving... not much to be done, except not letting others forget the way she acted.
Other than comforting words, what did u want her to do for her? The firefighters themselves said, there was no way to get to her and they had to wait for the water to calm. It’s one of those situations where Donna needed to realize she needed to act for herself.
I don't see how she could be. In spite of her demeanor, she was still trying to get the necessary information. It was just that there was very little the woman could actually relay to her. She appeared to relay what little she had to rescue services succinctly, she was just a bitch about it.
Unless they were to look at Donna's logs, and find that she really didn't try to get help, there was no crime done. Do I think she's a disgusting human being, and hope that Debra's drowning words haunt her into her nightmares? Yes. But I doubt even a civil case could have been brought against her.
She had the audacity to act like that because it as her final shift for that job. If that's how she handles calls with people in distress, that career is definitely not for her. It's like giving a psychopath a job as a guidance counelor.
I think she meant like water just appearing without a noticeable increase. Debra knew there was a flood but kept going, obviously not imagining it'd get so bad. The operator was a dick but that was the one thing she had right, there is no way Debra didn't know it was risky. Still, she didn't deserve to die for that mistake nor have her final moments be some asshole on the other end of the line.
@@oof1007 that's the thing, though, floods (particularly flash floods) increase in height *fast*. Like, yeah it's a noticeable increase, but it becomes noticeable too fast to get out of the way.
I get what you're saying but I see no value in justifying someone whose job it is to respond to an emergency, talking out of their ass so presumptuously about how the person got into their situation. It doesn't matter if she could be right, she wasn't there and doesn't know and she's being presumptuous about how a person got into a situation that is about to kill them. Anyone else in the world should be running their mouth on that before the people you call to save you. Society shouldn't pay you to suck this bad at the job.
Debra repeatedly apologizing to the operator is heart-breaking too. Bless this woman's soul. It's just so painful to listen to. I can't even imagine how I'd feel if that was my mum being spoken to like that while fearing for her life. Rest in peace, Debra Stevens 💝
@@Rosie-ij3on Honestly listening to and learning about that call ruined my day, week, month. without a doubt the worse thing I have ever come across and made me cry. My heard melts for her family, and I can respect them for trying to come to peace with the injustice.
Debra was such a sweetheart considering she was panicking and literally about to drown. I think we people with empathy naturally feel protective of people like her, I feel sick and powerless having listened to that. And so angry and disgusted at the operator.
Timothy should've been keeping an eye on the weather at all times, but instead decided to act all bitter mid-flight, and it lead to the plane being intercepted by a storm. Terrible teacher
Why was a 22 year old douchebag in charge of an 18 year old learner pilot? No responsible flight school would ever allow that. More to that story than presented here.
@ville__ as a 33 year old primary care physician with autism and ADHD, I would bully you so fucking hard for this comment lmao Also, Aspergers isn't a valid diagnosis chief. There's only autism, and the spectrum on which we fall on
The "Help me" and "I cant breathe" in that call, along with being able to hear her under the water is fucking bone chilling. Shame on that dispatcher, that's no human being. That's a monster.
God, I couldn't listen the second time, it was genuinely horrifying knowing what Debra was going through. One of my worst fears. I hope she's free from pain now and is resting happily wherever she is. That poor woman.
Yes this one was almost as tough as the lady who burned to death and took her last breath on the phone with a 911 operator. The sad thing is, the dispatcher did almost everything right. It was the firemen and the chief that killed that poor woman. So so sad. I’ll never forget that woman’s screams as she burns and suffocates to death all while the entire fire department was right outside.
That phone call broke my heart... Debra just wanted to talk to someone to help her manage her fear in that terrifying situation and she didn't even get common courtesy. She deserved so much more, so much more compassion..
I obviously don't know McKellar, but he acted like someone who peaked in high school and couldn't mature/get over the mindset of those days. What a dick
@@Divoonatam yea gotta preface bc there's always an asshole who takes things too literally. seeing now that it'll be that way no matter what you say though 🤷🏾♂️
@@Divoonatam sorry i get a lot of comments and it's at a point where i genuinely cant tell, i rescind my asshole statement hope you have a good rest of your day/evening
the 911 call especially has stuck with me, usually im not affected by things by this but Donna seemed like such a kind hearted person, her desperately apologizing to the operator is truly chilling.
sameeee!! I get hating your job and all but someones life is on the line. she doesnt deserve your displaced anger especially at time like this. and the lady was literally the sweetest person ever, its so sad. what a way to go. i hope donna cant sleep at night. EVERY NIGHT.
My jaw dropped when she snapped: "That'll teach you not to drive in the water." It's understandable that, if another person is hysterical, that it can make those around them start to panic as well, but that remark was heartless.
@@dieterdelange9488and the fact that she told Debra she should’ve been able to see the water was so dumb. Flash floods happen quickly, and you can’t see the water in the dark, even with your headlights on. It’s often just mistaken for wet roads. What did she think, that the poor woman drove into the water on purpose? It’s so tragic that the last person ever got to talk to was someone who was so horrible to her. It breaks my heart.
@@xstrxdhave you ever been in a flash flood? The water moves quickly, and she couldn’t swim. You can’t just get out of your car and wade through it. There were multiple people who got trapped in their vehicles that night who required rescue. Unfortunately, they couldn’t find Debra in time to save her. Did you even listen to the call? You must be friends with the horrific dispatcher. Zero compassion or empathy.
The last one is so evil. It made me feel sick. I had a teacher who abused me in school and they did nothing about it because it was "her last year anyway." It's not a reason to leave this kind of behavior unchecked. Admittedly I don't know what kind of charges she could face, but wow...
I've gone through a similar situation. It was my elementary school principal and another teacher. 2007, North Allegheny, PA. 2nd grade. principal's last name was Bradley. teacher's was Schwartz. It was her last year there. How people like that can end up running a school, I don't understand.
My parents went to the school board over my 4th grade teacher's mocking of me & also bc he got mad that I wasn't doing the math problems right one day. He dragged me out of the room & into an empty classroom. I was (am) very short & he was dragging me so fast my feet couldn't keep up. He then shoved me into a desk & told me to "sit there until you get it right!" I had no idea what I was doing wrong & was sitting there crying. An older student came in &, when he heard my story, he sat down & explained how to do the math problems. That's what the teacher should have done! He was reprimanded & I hope he never did that to another student. I remember having to imitate how he dragged me. He was my friend's father & claimed he didn't want to show favoritism. But he did the exact opposite; he never did anything like that to the other students. I'm in my mid-sixties & the event is still so clear in my mind!
I was abused by the teachers at my primary school, so from ages 7 - 11. Unfortunately, that trauma stays, and I have learned to move on the best I can. I hope you find peace. T
What's worse about the final story is the the police stated that, even if it hadn't been Donna Reneau's final 911 dispatch shift, that her conduct wouldn't have been enough for her to be fired.
That dispatcher should never have been on call. This is what she should have told Donna to do: -Try to back the car out of the ditch -if the car is stuck, set the parking brake. Keep headlights and hazard lights on for visibility - Roll down the windows so she is able to open her door It makes me so mad that her death was so easily avoidable
She was gonna die regardless. She was literally in the trees, so she wouldn't of been able to back up as her car was legitimately stuck. The cops couldn't get to her because of how bad the flooding was, and she couldn't swim so rolling her windows down would have just made her flood faster and probably would've swept her car away quicker. The 911 operater was a shit person, but there was no one she would've gotten help from in time.
@@meghan92385 Honestly the laughter was the only part that bothered me of her reaction. I feel like the "shut up" was harsh but like... As you said, cops couldn't get to her, she couldn't move her car, it was a no-win situation, but dispatchers have a tendency to be very blunt with callers who won't stop panicking long enough to explain what help they need and where they are and Debra wasn't giving them much to work with and was putting more stress on her body freaking out. Donna could have been more kind and said "okay, try to take deep breaths and calm down," but I can also have empathy for the fact that 911 operators often hear traumatic shit and that moment is probably burned into her brain, based on conversations I've had with people who used to do the same job. Also, absolutely not victim blaming, but Donna literally did everything you shouldn't do when flooding starts, so PLEASE FOLKS do not make the same mistakes. The flooding roads should have led to pulling over somewhere safe, getting out of the car, and getting inside a building. Don't stay on the roads during flash flooding. If your newspaper job finds that unacceptable, the job isn't worth it.
@@pigeonmama it's literally not victim blaming to say "she unfortunately made a poor choice, please do not ever do this." It would be victim blaming if I said she deserved it, which I did not. Sharing "hey, there's a reason you should never do this" is just safety advice that is literally shared by the national weather service any time there are flash flood warnings lmfaooooo. Tell me you never lived anywhere with frequent flash flooding without telling me,
I whole heartedly agree! It's called a flashflood for a reason and then dismissing her saying she will watch next time about driving through water is so sinister.
@@lucretiz regardless, she's the one who took that risk by going through flooded roads. That's why she kept saying sorry. People keep blaming that operator, but I put the blame on God for this one. I mean, you flashflooded a handicapped with crippling fear of water and giving her last words with an idiot??? What tf was that God!?? So cruel!
I can’t stand thinking that Connor’s final moments on this earth were not only spent being mocked, but those mocking posts being broadcasted for his family to eventually see. :(
The fact that the instructor was only 22 blew me away. He couldn’t be that much better at anything than Conner was, he was barely older than him. The audacity of him to think he’s so much better than Conner is absolutely baffling. Conner didn’t deserve that. He deserved an instructor who valued his life.
the 911 operator is literally making me sick, the amount of unprofessionalism in that woman is unbelieveable but whats also bizzare is the lack of literal empathy. debra was panicking and drowning and telling a person like that to SHUT UP like WHAT
It make me so sad how she was drowning while the person is telling her to shut up Debra could have continued her life and her mom too if it wasn’t for a rude 911 dispatcher
I've heard 9-1-1 calls like the Debra Stevens call before. Some dispatchers show very little empathy, and often do seem annoyed when calls are played in the media.
There is no reason why these dispatch callers act this way. How can you not have empathy for people at their most desperate. No mercy for people in helping positions who become so desensitized and continue to work.
That last case angered me to my core. Debra seemed like such a sweet soul, even going as far as thanking an individual who couldn’t seem to care less in such a dire situation. She didn’t deserve that one bit. My heart absolutely breaks for her and her family. I hope Donna is haunted by this for the rest of her life. Pathetic. Rip Debra Stevens
As a pilot myself, I have studied both aviation cases presented here. The first one is tragic, and the second one is just downright disgusting. The student was doing everything right. It's hard as a private pilot student to be assertive over your instructor, especially when it's not your full time instructor. I'm currently preparing for my certified flight instructor checkride, and everything that this instructor was doing was a huge red flag and goes against what we are taught. He is a disgrace to the community and I hope the families of both pilots can find peace through the loss of their sons.
I don't know anything about commercial passenger planes, but it's pretty disturbing that something as simple as wingflaps being in the wrong position can have such deadly consequences.
Don't know .ich about what goes on in the passenger jets these days but even back then when planes were simpler and ran propeller even the most minor of changes can really fuck up your plane from as early as the design not to mention the production parts and operation.
debra’s story breaks my heart. as someone who’s been let down by police operators before, i cannot imagine the sheer devastation she felt. she had so much faith in reneau and that monster dashed it to pieces without hesitation edit: i’ve been asked to share my story, but youtube keeps deleting my replies… it seems like my comments are disappearing, oddly enough. thanks for listening, guys unfortunately, there was an incident involving my mom. she was at a man’s house and seemed to have been given something she shouldn't have taken. we received frantic messages from her, but we were unsure what to do, as our dad wouldn’t pick up our calls due to time zone differences. when we called the police, the operator wasn't helpful and seemed dismissive. he kept telling us to calm down, and that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. we did give him an address, and my mom’s phone number, but he said there was nothing they could do. eventually, we reached out to a friend's dad, who helped get my mom to safety. it turns out the man involved had a history of misconduct
@@namelessnocebo content warning ahead for anyone reading, but i can definitely share. thank you for the interest i was 17 and my sister was 14. my mom had lent her car to an ex-neighbour and he totalled it, so she went to his house to discuss the repair fees. there was no indication that he was a threat and he’d been invited to our house for dinner several times. while she was there, he drugged and raped her. she told me later that she managed to lock herself in his bathroom but she was quickly losing her hand eye coordination - she tried to text us but she could only write cryptic fragments like ‘help ples” i called the police, i didn’t know she was being assaulted but i knew she was in danger. i was distraught and i can remember hyperventilating at one point because i have a diagnosed anxiety disorder. the responder got frustrated with me quickly, he kept telling me to calm down but his tone was abrasive and irritated. he asked for an address, i gave it to him, but he told me i was overreacting and that i should just call her first. my sister took the phone while i tried to call my mom, my dad, etc. no one could help me and the responder kept telling us off, telling us to calm down. i think i hung up eventually out of frustration, because it was just a back and forth of “please send help” then “we can’t do anything yet.”
It reminds me of one night when I was so sick I couldn’t move and was going in and out of consciousness. I called 911 and when they didn’t show up after half an hour I called again. The dispatcher called me “impatient” and “entitled” and said all their paramedics were busy dealing with more serious calls. She would periodically call me over the next 8 hours and one time, when I was passed out and couldn’t answer the phone, she called again and sounded angry at me for ignoring the previous call. Finally, in the morning, my mom called and immediately rushed to help. She took me to the hospital and the next time that dispatcher called to check on me she gave her a piece of her mind.
@@namelessnocebo i can, thank you guys for the interest my mom went to a neighbour’s house because he’d borrowed our car and totalled it. she needed to talk to him about the repair fees. there wasn’t anything suspicious or threatening about him because we’d known him for well over a year. he drugged her, and SA’d her. she had enough motor function that she could text us fragments, so we knew she was in danger but we didn’t know why my sister was only 14, she called the cops and the responder was frankly rude and irritated. he kept sternly telling us to calm down, that he couldn’t hear us. i had a drink of water and through the tears i told him that my mom was at a man’s house and she was asking for help. i was only 17 at the time so i didn’t really know what to tell him. i gave him an address, and i tried my best to get ahold of my dad, but the responder was continuously hostile with us. totally paraphrasing here, but i think he also told us we were overreacting at one point, and that we shouldn’t assume the circumstances of the situation - kinda like a teacher telling off a bad student eventually we hung up because we were genuinely panicking and didn’t know what to do. my mom’s okay, thankfully she wasn’t severely hurt. it turned out that the neighbour had a history of those sorts of charges. it was a little traumatic for us and the way the responder acted created a very irrational distrust in the police for me - it didn’t help that i had a very bad experience with a social worker the previous year
31:11 I can't even finish the last part of the video with the 911 call, the operator's attitude while that poor woman is pleading for her life trapped in her car is beyond disturbing. I hope that she is in a better place now.
a couple of notes on Hu Xinyu's case that are important - the "man walking his dog" was a school security officer - at some point (I think before the security footage) Xinyu was at one of dormitory balconies, presumably to jump. literally one of the worst sins of (most) asian countries is to inconvenience others, likely why he went into the forest instead so no one would have the "burden" of seeing his body if he had jumped at the dorm - apparently his jacket was on backwards?? - the school campus is gated, Xinyu was found on school grounds
I tend to lean more toward the fact that he was intentionally killed. The fact that the school became extreme aggressive in their response to the accusation and the disappearances of previous students makes me think that the whole 'ending himself' narrative was to get the heat off of them. We all know how China is when it comes to their views on human life and if the boy did indeed have a rare blood type, I could very easily see them popping him off for those valuable organs and such. To believe the state narrative is a fools errand.
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 I’m not sure what you’re saying. I’m a medical professional, I’m afraid the blood type of the donor still must be compatible with the recipient. The rules for blood type in transplantation are exactly the same as they are for blood transfusion. More blood types can be used with each other than once believed. But they must be compatible.
@@MFLimited "I’m a medical professional, " funny you didnt say what type! i wonder why! and its sad you cant comprehend that the rare blood type will be much easier to find a match from another blood type group! than the exact same rare one! Also as i said that excuse is proven false by this fact and also it didnt happen! "I’m afraid the blood type of the donor still must be compatible with the recipient. " Yes i said that!
Im little iffy with this one as anything reported in china has to be taken with a massive grain of salt. Im leaning more on to that it wasnt self deleating, China is well known of covering things up, censoring things and shutting people up (usually parents). And the whole burden thing, yes and no. Really depends on what part of asia. Kinda ridicilous to think the burden/inconvinience wouldnt be as bad had he hung himself considering it took a long time to "find" him.
I’m from Arkansas. I remember when that 911 call happened. It was on the news for weeks after. I was a child. This was scarier than any horror movie or Halloween costume ever was. I remember laying in bed at night, putting myself in her position. Scared for my life, fear of water, it’s dark and I’m scared and the only person who could help me… was making fun of me. Terrified me to my core. I still think about it fairly regularly, including every time I’m driving while it’s raining. Her screams haunt me
Damn, that's horrible. :( I live in Arkansas now, but only recently in the past few years... used to live in Texas. :p I wish the operator could have enough guilt over her actions to know that people aren't just furious at her, but people like you even got traumatized as a child over it... evil woman. :(
the last one should be a reminder to "turn around, don't drown" when there's flooding in your area. most people don't know how strong water truly is until it's too late. my heart breaks for debra and her family 💔
that school sounds super suspicious to me. how tf is no one questioning why there’s barbed wire keeping the kids in? it sounds like more of a prison than a school
I hate to be that guy, but… you’ve gotta remember what country that school is in. This kind of case is EXCEEDINGLY common there, you’d be surprised how local and deep rooted the corruption goes.
To be fair, in my country, barbed wire to protect houses and other property is really common. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same was common in china, specifically for schools.
26:59 I hate hate hate being mr. Conspiracy. But you expect me to believe that a search of a school and the surrounding area is gonna miss a student who was that close to the school. Also, if he did take his life, what about the other disappearances. It seems like it's unlikely a kid sewer slides every year by disappearing. Either way I still fault the school for not helping the kid with mental health. Though, if the journal did show signs of Ill mental health why not investigate that rather then let the media run wild????
Suicide is very common in South East Asian countries, you'd be surprised, other than that. Not much open source info I know of about this case, therefore it remains in the greyzone.
I remember this story when it first started coming. Back then I definitely thought he was killed even when they said they found his body. I still feel like he was murdered for whatever reason to this day
We arent, Seeking for help isnt a normalized thing here in south east asia, i live in japan and at my school alone this year over 72 students have comitted suicide. It is auch a common thing here @kbennett2587
I don't know why I watch these types of videos anymore. I watch horror stuff to be horrified and to feel a bit of a thrill, and then I go about my day going, "WHEW, that was kind of spooky, haha." Instead, videos like the 911 Operator leave me so damn angry instead. They leave me absolutely livid that another person can treat other people in horrible situations like that, and knowing the fact that there are people out there who not only did not get punished but probably don't feel an ounce of guilt over it infuriates me to no end.
I'm a marine veteran. My va doctors call me a liar, scoff at and roll their eyes at me, tell me my issues aren't real. I'm just one of 20+ million humans thrown away by the US military. We are still alive. No one cares.
the debra steven’s call is absolutely horrifying. debra was pleading for her life, and even apologized to donna herself and thanked donna for being there. she seemed like such a sweet and caring woman. donna is nothing but evil, and i hope she never finds peace for what she has done.
I've met enough people like Luke to know they aren't particularly skilled or knowledgable in the field of English, or teaching, nor do they have a passion for the language. They're simply using their only marketable asset to get by while they take their country of choice for everything that they feel entitled to. This story is the tip of a harrowing iceberg.
That 911 call makes my blood boil. That poor woman, scared to death and still apologizing for inconveniencing the operator who doesn't give a shit about her. The fact that the operator was the last person she spoke to makes me sick. Bless her family for being forgiving. I know I wouldn't be. The instructor was infuriating too, but not to the same degree. Edit: spelling
god that last one was so sickening. i've never heard a 911 operator sound so legitimately annoyed by someone who was quite literally crying for her life on the other end of the phone. and the fact that Debra was literally APOLOGISING to Donna for getting upset when her literal life was on the line. no repercussions is bad enough, but the lack of any kind of apology or remorse is so heartbreaking. and then Debra's family going on to forgive Donna despite it all? Debra did not deserve to, in her final moments, be mocked and scolded by the one person that is meant to be providing help. absolutely disgusting.
@rbmay I get all of that but besides it being her final shift a lot of the dismissivness probably came from a place of her knowing that it was going to take fucking forever for the cop's to actually arrive on scene and she probably figured that she was going to have to listen to that woman panicking like that over the phone with her for hours if nothing drastic took place.
@@hollowgonzalo4329 i don't think that's an excuse for her behaviour though. i think that no matter the circumstances, no matter if she was on that call for three hours, no matter if Debra was being "annoying", she's quite literally screaming for her life. it's so disgusting of Donna to get irritated with Debra, and to tell her to "shut up" in her final moments. even if this wasn't a fatal situation, and Debra was scared for no reason, Donna should still have the patience and respect that 911 operators are trained to have. no matter the circumstances, a 911 operator should not be outright rude to someone who is as terrified as Debra was. i think everyone deserves that ounce of respect, _especially_ in their final moments.
That woman was panicking and not able to provide any helpful information while she was actively trying to be assisted by 911 and rescue workers. It's normal to be frustrated at such stupidity when you have fire rescue asking for her location, the person who is drowning is unable to provide even the most basic information, meanwhile the location ping doesn't show she has moved, she won't stop babbling about nonsense, and she outright refuses to calm down and just give you her location. Sometimes that frustration comes out while working 911 dispatch, and Donna received more than enough death threats over it, but you can help add to those if you feel it's necessary. The unfortunate truth for Donna is that she got called by a woman who decided to kill herself by driving out into a flood, and got blamed for this woman's su!c!de, which is very sad. The moral of the story shouldn't be "911 dispatchers should be robots that are always cheerful" it's "you shouldn't drive during a flood watch", but if you think robots are better than people you might think that. Anyway, hopefully you never wake up during a surgery or hear the banter that paramedics make about obese people. Donna was reasonably respectful, if a tad frustrated, and that's all.
@@SecuR0MIt’s normal to be frustrated and annoyed by certain callers, but their job is to stay calm. Defending laughing at a woman dying? You’re mentally ill. Get help.
@@SecuR0M by calling it su!cide you are blowing the other side out of proportions. She would need to do all that with intention of taking her own life. Her choices were stupid but not su!cidal. She did give all the information she could. Also just because you are suppose to be calm doesn't mean you are able to do that. On that note even if frustrated i don't why would you remind another person who is panicking its their fault, because many people wouldn't probably enjoy being put down in a time that can be their final moments. I think you are way too harsh on the victim. (I don't condone sending death threats to the dispatcher either)
Oh, man. That last call made me tear up and I'm not a cryer. What a lovely, gorgeous person taken from us due to malicious negligence - my heart will always be with Debra and her mother, Nancy.
Hu Xinyu case is very frightening for me. Whole campus is covered in cameras, yet he somehow found that one blindspot just to commit suicide. And police couldn't find a body that was so close to school. There was no reason to hide from cameras in the first place. If he wished to die he could've just go for it. And the fact that this was in China makes it even more complex, considering their "interesting" authority
Kid was 100% taken out for his blood type and when they couldn't cover it up they faked a hanging. There are hundreds of stories like this from China. Place is a hellhole.
Yeah. If he'd been a Uyghur or Tibetan there'd be reason to assume the police had killed him, and if he'd been related to Falun Gong there'd be precedent for the organ-harvesting. The only part of that conspiracy that was inherently unprecedented was that it was supposed to be for the sake of a "local" official-I don't see the Chinese government caring that much when they've got to have literally millions of those.
It's important to note that many believed the Hu Xinyu organ harvesting conspiracy because illegal organ harvesting is in reality a very big issue in China with many verified reports of people being kidnapped and killed for their organs.
It's not every day that a story gets to me, but poor Debra's story really does. It's so horrible to hear her suffer and panic like that, and to be spoken down to by someone who doesn't sound like they care about anyone. Some people are legitimately ice cold when it comes to other people and caring about them. I really don't understand how anyone can be so/sound so unphased when they are literally hearing someone die.
The fact that she remained so sweet and selfless, constantly apologising for her completely rational fear and what not, made it so much worse. I hope karma exists because that dispatcher deserves every last bit of it
@@carl-wheezer I agree. I couldn't just sit there if it were me and be so heartless. That poor woman knew what was happening to her and she was scared and rightly so. The dispatcher acted like she was just wasting her time and clearly didn't care one bit. It just sounded so sociopathic.
I doubt the legitimacy of the audio recording but the rest of the details are so suspicious especially given chinas history of not being very honest about people’s disappearances.
@@Иблис96 I mean , the school as cameras everywhere , manages to find the only dead corner of the whole place. Can't even leave due to barbed wire. somehow ended himself just outside of his school while managing to bug the cameras and find an exit without anyone noticing? Yeah bullshit kid was killed by someone.
Also, why was the journal only found after the body was found? Suspicious AF. It could be how the video was presented though, but... Yeah, hard to trust anything outta the CCP
Hearing that last story made me think of my own situation. I was in middle school in the nurses office crying because of my stomach pain that would occur every month or so. Now I wasn’t wailing, I was more so sniffling and maybe once in a while making a sound because of the pain and you know what the nurse told me? To shut up. You know what happened after? I spent around 2 months in the hospital because I had to get extensive abdominal surgery to correct what I had wrong with me. That nurse probably thought I was making it up to go home. Don’t get jobs that require empathy, if you can’t do it. I’m not saying to let your empathy overwhelm you either, just show that you care. I bet if that operator showed Debra some urgency and care, Debra wouldn’t have been panicking as much. I hope she is resting in peace.
a lot of people are confused as to why debra had that job. it's the same reason abusers get into care jobs (like elder care) despite obvious signs or even cases of abuse ... UNDERSTAFFING. when you are understaffed & you're a service that is needed, sadly, most will take anyone rather.
What's worse is when you report that abuse, because of the understaffing, especially in aged care homes, they don't give a shit about protecting you from the angry abusers who will make your work life hell. I had belongings stolen from me and no one came and helped me and the only good carer when we and another resident were in danger. After that incident report and a report to the facility manager, these abusers did everything they could to make me quit.
Not just that, the burnout in people that genuinely care is real. So over time the empathic people end up having to quit and you end up with a skew towards the sociopaths that find it an easy desk job.
That Debra Stevens call genuinely breaks my heart. Listening as I ride to work and had to stop just to compose myself. Truly chilling. I hope that woman never gets another restful moment
@@gr8gmr I mean , most people here don’t have any type of reaction where they have to stop their car . If you’re getting a physical panic from watching content maybe you should stop watching it while driving. I don’t feel anything close to that while watching or hearing any of that. It just dosnt affect me in any physical way. So no i wouldnt call it easy but it dosnt cause physical reactions . Yeah I feel bad for the person who’s doing but i dont need to stop my car to compose myself
@@JoeRogansForehead Well that's just you. Not everybody has the same reaction. And even if you don't, based on the content, it should still be understandable that such an uncomfortable audio would cause reactions like that from other people. It's not unusual.
Fuck's sake, just don't listen to this while you're driving. If it causes you to need to pull over to compose yourself, just wait to watch when you aren't behind the wheel of a car
I don't know if it is the voice, the delivery, the background music, the hard cuts to black then start talking, the vhs effect with distorted colors but this is one of the few if only true crime channels that gives me chills/feel unsettled and kudo for not covering the same cases a million other youtubers do. I always find something I have never heard of!
I was a 9-1-1 emergency dispatcher for fire and police for many years. The way this dispatcher acted is beyond disgusting. She should never be allowed to work in any capacity that requires compassion.
It was her last day, she was leaving anyway, plus they had hundreds of calls to deal with debra wasn’t the only person experiencing an emergency. She was unfortunately, in an area that firefighters weren’t able to get to until the water calmed so they could at least use the boats, to get to her.
Student Hu's body was definitely planted there. It was found a mere 200~300m away from his dorm, barely in the outskirts of the woods, months after the incident. Meanwhile, there had been an estimated 2000 people looking for him shortly after he disappeared, because many families and communities that lived nearby had joined the search. They scoured through the woods, the nearby ponds and lakes, all nearby businesses and houses, water tanks, the entire college and student dorms, and so on. The chances of so many people missing such a nearby spot for such a long time are absurdly low.. Rotten Mango has a 1.5hr long video on it
I was looking for this comment. This case bothered me for a long time. I want to know if his mother saw the footage or heard the recording they said was him on it and what her take is. Does she believe that is her son in them? Not that it will give a definitive answer, but there are so many questions people should be asking that demand answers. Haven't they also at least looked around for the officials who share his blood type?
I can’t listen to that 911 call. I watch a shocking amount of body camera footage, 911 calls, interrogations, trials, you name it. This specific 911 call disturbed me beyond words. I remember the first time I heard it and I was genuinely sick. I cannot believe the way she was treated while terrified and dying. It’s literally a nightmare. I cannot IMAGINE.
Having worked at the Fort Smith AR dispatch center in the early 2000s, I’m not surprised. They were horrible people who made fun of the callers, said they deserved to have the game over, laughed about sewer slides, said people were nothing but trouble, and refused to enter missing reports because “they’ll never be found so why waste time”. I didn’t even last a year there. After I quit, several people were either prosecuted for misuse, s*xual assault and indecency, etc. I hated those people. As they’d say, “can’t be breaking the law if you’re above it”.
Nick, this is possibly the first video i havent been able to finish of yours. Youve covered some awful and horrible circumstances but the 911 call from Debra Stevens is possibly one of the worst audios ive heard in my life. It's horrible that the 911 operator didnt face repercussions for how she acted, and i cant listen to the whole audio youve included knowing it's of a woman who was dying. RIP Debra Stevens Thanks for bringing light to these, and for everyones sake i hope there is a day where there is no more new incidents like this
As someone who watches these types of videos religiously and is typically kinda desensitized to stuff like this I 100% understand where you are coming from. That 911 call genuinely made me uncomfortable. That is a real phone call with a distressed woman legitimately pleading for help while her life was on the line... halfway through the audio I Googled Debra Stevens and realized she passed and I had to pause the vid. I can't even describe the feeling I had, it was nauseating but I was also extremely angry with the operator. I can't believe Debra's family forgave the operator, shows what kind of people they are. if that was my family member I couldn't even imagine how I'd feel.
@@christiannrrr same. I consume a lot of true crime so i'm used to listening to 911audios/seeing videos of those who have passed. But this was truly the only time I couldn't listen to the entirety of a call. Debra deserved better in the end and I hope her family is doing as well as they can.
Same here. I won’t even watch that section tbh. I’ll get too angry and sad. I’ve seen the worst of the worst on the internet but this takes the cake. True depravity. And Donna ended up winning an award.
You can thank the FAA for creating outrageous experience requirements to work any other pilot job. Flying is the only industry where the only viable entry level position is teaching. 22 years old is barely even average for typical instructor age, especially at pilot mills like ATP.
Hearing that 911 call absolutely broke my heart into pieces, Debra seemed to be the absolute sweetest, even at such a horrible situation that cost her life. I cannot argue with the choice of the family in forgiving that dispatcher, but I do believe that what the dispatcher has done will haunt her for the rest of her days. I’ll never understand how humanity still goes on with the unfairness of such individuals that truly show humanity, only for their life to be cut short.
McKellar seems like a real prick. Some teachers are just awful people who like having authority over, and judging, others. It's a shame his unfortunate student had to suffer for his impatience. It sounds like the kid was trying to do everything by the book. McKellar should've appreciated that instead of mocking it.
McKellar should not only appreciate it but also reinforce it, saying “good job, never forget safety first. Take as long as you need if it means your life.” McKellar should have been looking over Connor’s work too. Two pairs of eyes are better than one.
It’s infuriating that McKellar’s incompetence as a teacher was the direct cause of both his and his students deaths. That last Snapchat is damning evidence all on its own, guy apparently had the time to make a post about the danger they were in but no time to take the appropriate precautions to avoid it.
I'll take a more charitable stance that the operator was trying to make Debra 'shut up, calm down and listen' by keeping the conversation going. If it really came to her waiting there four hours, her conctantly crying and screaming would deplete the oxygen in no time. I'm not even convinced that it's laughter we hear in the audio, more like a "I don't know what I could tell you ma'am" sound. If you try to ask for information someone so panicked of course you will sound like you don't care, but these informations can save this person's life. If someone calls you and begs you to save him from drowning, your options are limited. The rescuers were dispatched, so this lady did the most important part of her job right. For me, this situation looks like blaming someone's heart attack on the person that did CPR.
As someone who knew Connor personally (not “friends” with him, but knew who he was and did interact with him some before we graduated), used to be his neighbor, had his mom as a teacher, etc, he was a genuinely good, smart guy. Everyone was so devastated when we found out about the crash and were so heartbroken for his mom :( His birthday was just a few days ago, so all of his friends were posting pictures of him and saying how much they missed him. Such a tragedy he was taken so soon
I've heard the long version of that 911 call, and Donna's behavior is pretty reprehensible. Unfortunatrly, Debra wasn't able to give the most helpful description of her location, and according to Donna, all responders were busy with other flood related emergencies. So, I could see how someone would get frustrated in that situation. Having no control and feeling helpless could absolutely make someone react emotionally, and with frustration. But Donna's reaction is just cruel. I wish she had been able to walk Debra through actions she could take to help herself while waiting for first responders, but I don't even know if there was anything she could have done. Truly tragic, and Donna should have faced repercussions.
@@GobbleWobble123reminded me of one of the worlds most notorious predators Mr swirl. He also was an English teacher and would use his profession to get closer to minors. A lot of the time they will also becomes priests usually catholic or any profession that could get them close to children.
@@Ga_mma1it also tends to be in countries with a large wealth gap. So they can target poorer kids who are more vulnerable and probably more likely to be swayed by "presents" and stuff. And I'd imagine these predators probably know that poorer people in a lot of places are just not seen as trustworthy by the police. And a lot of countries have a shame culture around anything like those crimes so they prefer to either take justice into their own hands or the parents just try and sweep it under the rug to avoid a scandal At least that's what seems to happen in certain cases, i don't want to generalise more than i should
That 911 call is, without a doubt, the darkest segment in this series to date. Hearing that poor woman's final breathes and cries for help, only for the dispatcher to do nothing but scold her is one of the most horrific things imaginable. And not to mention the fact she died surrounded by the one thing she feared the most is nothing short of heartbreaking. It makes me dread the thought of calling 911 myself if I were thrown in a similar perilous situation. They might as well just tell me I'm already dead... and that they murdered me.
The so-called "flight instructor" drumming his fingers on the plane set my teeth on edge. My dad used to have his pilot's license. If he'd had a flight instructor like that and lived to tell the tale, I'd be sending some furious emails
Last one, 911 call, I had heard this once before, and ONCE was enough for me. Poor lady & absolutely horrible 911 dispatcher!!!! Thanks for the upload & enjoy your weekend!
That 911 call made me feel sick. Just hearing her cry that she can't swim and that she's scared is making my heart race. Listening to it made me wish I could jump through that call myself and save her, somehow.
@NE0WAFNAESTHETICS Go finish your homework lil boy. If you don't even realized that he she it are also pronoun , just stop trying to be edgy and stay in school.
Imagine if that instructor had been paying real attention to the weather ahead of time instead of dunking on a kid for internet points. They might still both be here today. It's pretty tragic
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Clearly, that moron was horrifically unqualified to be a flight instructor, had they survived, he'd deserve to get the boot from that job
Well at least he doesn't have to be up at 4AM
@@gLobbZ Damn I didn't even think about that lmao
he was also still very much a kid, lol. 22? 4 years older? When I saw that I laughed. Such a dickhead.
The fact that the 911 operator was laughing her ass off while the caller was drowning is very sickening and the fact that she faced no repercussions is infuriating
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@@domoetker3967 what does that mean?
@@mystik8177Black Lives Matter
@@mystik8177black lives matter
@@mystik8177black lives matter
The fact that Debra remained so sweet and even apologized to that horrendous monster of a dispatcher…. There is a special place in hell for such a cruel person
In what hell? Look what people do to Others. WE live in the hell.
hell doesnt exist, but she will die eventually so theres that.
@@availxe8639how do you know?
Hell doesnt exist?i rather believe there is a hell for people like her than a heaven
@@availxe8639 not the interent atheists : DDD
I’m baffled at “the water just didn’t appear”
Actually that’s how floods work a lot of the time.
right like what the fuck was she on about??
I know 911 operators are usually apathetic but she’s an absolute monster. Who cares if it was your last day on the job. I can’t believe she can live with herself after that, I couldn’t.
It’s called a flash flood for a reason
@@Jacket_50_Blessingsmost dispatchers are very nice and caring people.
@@impermanence4300 Yeah, maybe apathetic wasn’t the right word. But I meant to say desensitized, if the operator was also panicking he/she would be wasting precious time.
Poor Conner, his instructor making fun of him in his last moments when he was just trying to learn. So heartbreaking for that boy’s family.
Also I think it was brilliant that he checked the plane so thoroughly. Even Ry-an.Air doesn't check before a flight any longer. Just a quick turnover, not even cleaning inside. That young man was a proper Pilot, the 'instructor' was the dud.
It's extra depressing when it happens to such a bright young person. The kid had a dream, a clear vision of what he wanted his future to look like, and he was pursuing his passion earnestly. That is something that very few people can say. I can't stand when it happens to someone like that.
That hurt my heart 😢
That McKeller spent his time posting on Snapchat instead of properly mentoring the lad. The egotistic maniac took with him an aspiring pilot who only wanted to learn. That's heartbreaking, really.
@@levinaurgoax very much so 😞
Hu’s case is really scary. Knowing that the whole campus is covered by cameras, yet he wasn’t caught on any of them before leaving, and the fact that shoelaces most likely wouldn’t hold a body for that long makes the whole story feel super unsettling and disturbing.
@@mogadon7you're replying on an unrelated. They are talking about Hu's case not the Teacher Luke one.
@@mogadon7 Said like a real pedo
@@miraculous-tales Yeah, this comment is about a potential conspiracy theory within the Chinese government of sorts at one of the biggest middle schools in history, not about a sex offending teacher with multiple STDs.
@@mogadon7 you should be on a register 🙏
@mogadon7 please say you don't teach English in Thailand?
Debra crying and apologizing to Donna for snapping at her because she's so scared, and then asking her for her name and thanking her for being with her....that really gets me in the gut. That poor woman.
Honestly, she should’ve hung up on the dispatcher and called again for another operator, or asked to be put through to someone else. -Although I understand she probably didn’t want to hang up in such a desperate situation.
Her family seem to have the same roll over and ‘go where the wind blows’ attitude not sticking up for her so can’t really blame her individually for having no voice.
Spending your last minutes talking to a Shaniqua 😭😭 if there is hell it's on this planet
@@yendevus1747 pfp checks out
29:43 again a proof that name have fate behind it "Donna New water" Reneau
@@yendevus1747Asian woman named Shaniqua.
The last woman is absolutely heartbreaking! The fact nothing happened to the emergency responder is also insane! How you’d could say SHUT UP even if it is your last shift it’s not like you work in a supermarket…
Omg hi roly, I didn't expect to see you here. I watch a lot of videos like this, and that last story really affected me so much. My heart is so broken for Debra! She was so grateful and kind to the dispatcher and got treated in the most cruel way in return. How could she not have 1 shred of empathy in that position. Omfg
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True. It’s akin to a police officer saying, “Hey, it’s my last shift. Who cares if I search for and seize evidence without a warrant?” as if the last shift is some magical pass to be horrible.
Roly??? U watch nick crowly??? Bro worlds r colliding rn.
Omg Roly! I love your videos with Luxeria, you guys are too funny. Perfect Duo for reacting to videos😊.
Also I totally agree, that video was beyond sad and disturbing! The woman wasn’t even being rude at any point, she apologized for nothing. In other words even in such distress she tried to please the other person and be extra kind. It’s so sad 😢
I can’t believe she didn’t get any repercussions from handling the call that way. Last day at work or not!!!
The last video makes me physically ill. To have Debra just stuck with no hope drowning and Donna being the last person to talk to is such an awful way to go. I’m sorry but Donna telling someone to shut up when she’s literally on the verge of drowning is absolutely disgusting. I wish Debra never had to go through this fate.
@ShaunaC-sh1vdhuh???
@ShaunaC-sh1vdtf are you on about
ShaunaC-sh1vdbros onto nothing 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@ShaunaC-sh1vdStop drinking the Kool Aid lil bro
Wtf has diversity go to do with what the commenter said?? She’s just saying she wishes that Debra didn’t have to drown, diversity has nothing to do with that, you made no point whatsoever! 😂
My jaw literally dropped when you said they found her 12hrs later. That poor woman’s last moments were filled with fear and laughter from someone who was supposed to help and comfort her
Her story breaks my heart
@@artemperesada3454I think this story is th-cam.com/users/shortsVnAZWSLsH3s?si=eTX9wmPfxNwDXhSD
I appreciate the sentiment, but unless your jaw has been physically detached from your head, it did NOT LITERALLY drop.
@@princeofcupspoc9073🤓🤓🤓
Shut up. It's a hyperbole @@princeofcupspoc9073
Imagine becoming an instructor but refusing to deal with any students that are less than perfect
Right , it's like he wants something for nothing
Came back to bite him in the ass
The entire point of being an instructor is to instruct people who aren't perfect in the field, hence why they're taking lessons in the first place and are awkward about it. That dude somehow never realized that perfect students are supposed to be rarities, not the norm.
@@joshuakim5240this explanation is giving him credit but in truth
As I did see in this story there was ominous weather, and with the student still becoming experienced to soon be getting his pilot license, and having the stress of an apathetic instructor, I shudder to think that there might have have been safety protocols not taken because the young student had that hanging on his shoulders the foul attitude of a mentor. Tragic 😔 🙏
My little brother is a flight student. I am crying for Connor. I couldn’t imagine. So, young and just trying to work his way into making his living. My heart goes out to his family.
Yeah, the kid was working hard on making his dream come true and reacted so maturely to the instructors unprofessional and meanspirited behavior. It's heartbreaking. He would have become I great pilot. Much success to your little brother.
The way Mckellar acted was absolutely disgusting. If he had been as thorough as Conner then maybe things would've been different. Its a shame honestly.
i think its because it being her final shift, that she really didn't give two f's about the outcome.
@@PHOENIX2001 it was a guy and it wasn’t their last shift. It literally mentions he has to be up at 4:30am the next day.
@@PHOENIX2001 i think youre confused, this isnt the 911 call
Always walk away if you feel rushed during any sort of inspection before flying / buying. If the person is hiding something, they behave deviously.
no fr the whole time I just kept repeating "fuck that guy," total egotistical asshole
I've been a firefighter for 18 years and I've never been so sickened by a dispatcher before. That woman should never work again, anywhere. I wish there were some criminal charges that could be Levied against her. What a scumbag.
It sounds like the family is too forgiving to push for a civil suit.
unfortunately there were never any charges filed or any sort of action taken whatsoever. The department she worked for has even defended their decisions to not do anything.
Some people who cannot swim are severely afraid of water. How the 911 operator berated and ridiculed her while she’s panicking was wicked not helpful.
You get what you pay for. Welcome to privatized dispatch
Thank you for your service
Debbie was so kind to the 911 operator even as she was dying. She kept apologizing over and over, even though she did nothing wrong. That’s genuinely one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. She died feeling like she was a burden to someone who was supposed to be doing their job.
She should’ve asked for someone else. It may have saved her life.
@@jillturner9263So sad 😢 🙏
Especially the family forgiving the rude operator. It shows how Debbie was brought up. To be kind :((
@@jillturner9263sadly the operator somehow didn't care but also didn't care to hang up
@@sammiej.5526true, at least the public doesn't forgive this devil
Poor young aspiring pilot 😢, spent his last moments flying with an asshole of an "instructor".
The 911 operator didn't deserved to be forgiven. She didn't have remorse. She's totally heartless ..
It should have been her in the car, not Debbie.
@@jasonvargas7564 I can only hope she has nightmares every night the roles are reversed- but unfortunately that would require she had any amount of humanity and empathy in her..
@@jasonvargas7564i’m not religious but if I was this would seriously make me question my god
edit - i did not mean to start any arguments, please stay respectful and remember we are talking about a woman who lost her life!
@@kam2894 dont question god, question humanity
@@Coresixth I'm pretty sure humanity made god up to justify their BS
Debra's family forgiving that monster is just wow...I can see where she got her demeanor from, she was so respectful to that undeserving operator. I entirely understand her mom dying from a broken heart. May they rest peacefully
Her constantly apologizing makes me sick to my stomach. *sigh*
Sometimes the only way to progress in life in peace is by forgiving those who 100% wronged you. Else you're making your own life miserable yourself, without the wrong-doer being affected by it in any way. It's not really about forgiving the person, it's about letting go of anger and frustration and allowing yourself to move on.
@@Metatr0nthat's a very valid mentality and quite beautiful
@@hyenabite That's a stupid mentality that'll get you used and manipulated by assholes in life. Forgive only those who TRULY really want to repent, and have shown it through their action.
@@i_like_lemons how about i forgive whoever the fuck i want and live my life however the fuck i want because it's my life and not yours, hm? mind your business bro
911 having an active argument with somebody in flood waters about to die is crazy 😭
Donna:the water just didnt appear
I dont know why the first two are in the list..
Poor woman tho, felt sorry for her
I know 😢
@@superrazor7617omfg literally fuming at that!!! Does she even know what a flood is!?
I want to know why it took 12 hours for them to find her
As a 911 call taker, I can say the last section made me tear up. There is no excuse to say to a person who is clearly distressed to shut up. There is no reason to place blame on anyone. I'm glad that dispatcher quit-- what a disgrace.
Have you ever had any calls like that one?
That's the majority of emergency call takers. They don't give af 99% of the time and I have never had a good experience nor has anyone I have ever known of
@giri5384 similar in terms of how the person was responding, but not the same situation. I keep in mind that, no matter what, they're going THROUGH it.
@@MissJuxtiePoda if u dont mind, can u share what kind of situations they were? This job gotta be really stressful right?
I get that 911 operators have to be calm and collected during a call, but jesus christ that lady had no empathy for that poor woman. Genuinely hope she never manages to live that down, considering her face and name are all public.
If she hasn't apologized by now, that makes it clear to me she doesent really care. Its just sickening...
Well...she didn't get fired. She's probably still being a demon to people in need.
How does a sociopath get into this work position?
I kinda got it at first, like, that the caller freaking out was using up her oxygen, but then that operator just went nutso. What a psycho
@@djentloverbecause most law enforcement officials are psychopaths or one step beneath a psychopath.
i am so absolutely heartbroken by the last one. literally cried while i listened to that woman dying and the fucking dispatcher couldnt even fein empathy. what an absolute demon, i hope it haunts her.
It doesn't. Psychopaths don't feel haunted for doing that
@@spartacus2650right, well I hope the death threats work.
She def going to Heck that's for sure!
Let's hope she get's street justice
@@deliriousmusicality8840 so i went down the rabbit whole debras case it turned out they got 100s of death threats
"English teacher moves to Thailand", Yeah I know exactly where this is leading to.
I posted the exact same thing before reading other comments. 😂 So typical.
Right?! Whatever is stronger than a red flag, that's the only way to describe that situation.
I was thinking the exact same thing
As soon as they showed the first few clips of him, he gave me that really gross feeling. You can just tell he's a predator that tries to act harmless.
And ain't no lady-boys...
28:13 I have multiple questions.
1) How did Hu know about the blind spot in the cameras?
2) What about the other students that disappeared there?! Were they ever found? Did they also disapoear at blind spots? Cause if so, theres no way the school, or someones who works there isnt imvolved.
Listening to that 911 call fills me with rage. If that was my mother in that car, I’d want revenge
Yeah Donna would have to get some teeth knocked out or something like wtf is wrong w her
@@mimik222 yah the cops came out later an said had the lady not went nuts she would have survived. The water neevr went above the top of the car. She lost her shit an downed instead of using survival instinct.
Why did it take them 12 hours to find the car?
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@@crazychase98 You can hear the cop in the video, when they found the car, saying the only thing visible was the roof. The car was submerged
Some people just shouldn't be 911 operators. There's absolutely zero reason to be like that towards a woman who honestly believes her life is in danger. Telling her "I need you to shut up" isn't helping anything. My brother-in-law is local 911 operator, and they just had a situation with a new hire getting really nasty with a person who was calling because they thought they heard someone breaking into their home. This new hire had been brought on for overnight work, and knew that going into things. He had decided to take a little snooze, got VERY ANNOYED to have to answer a possible distress call, gave the person all kinds of attitude, and once the actual police got to the scene it was very easy to see that someone indeed broke in and robbed this woman while she hid and cried in a bedroom closet. He was fired that night after his supervisor listened to the recorded call. I didn't get to hear it for myself, but my brother-in-law sure did. He was absolutely amazed that someone who supposedly wanted to be a 911 operator could be that callous and uncaring.
Wow. It's a good thing that person was fired. They should be ashamed of themselves. I hope they grow and become a better person 🙏
Monsters position themselves to have power over people's lives.
Honestly most people would say that this world is very cold
@@Emlane09 honestly some people would remember that this world is a blessing and that the thing making our blood run cold happens to be monsters doing impressions of human beings
@@2totabon that’s very wise, and deep 🙏
Donna wouldn't be laughing if she were on the other end of that phone call. No job should ever hire an emotionless, cruel and complacent individual. RIP Debra
She seems like a smart, collected woman. She wouldn't ignore warnings of a flood over work. What sensible person does that?
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunNo. but she fails completely at being an emergency dispatcher. What sensible person does that?
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunYes, because a smart, collected and sensible individual laughs at another person who is terrified they’re going to drown, and tells them to shut up. Have some empathy.
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunokay but maybe have some dignity for the human life that was lost? she was telling this woman to shut up while she was dying. Imagine that being the last thing said to you before you die an extremely painful death.
@@pycheeshy Well I'm not the one driving through flooded streets with prior warning.
McKeller was tryna flex on Snapchat to his female friends “look at how smart I am” type
and now he's dead
Fr
he was 22 years old he was just a little boy it is ridiculous they hired him as a flight instructor. of course a 22 year old boy is not mature enough to teach such a dangerous and complex activity. the flight company should face repercussions for hiring him
@@redblue514022 year old grown man
@@kelechi_77”I’m an edgelord so I’m gunna make it clear that I don’t care whether he lived or died”
Whether or not Donna was still employed as a 911 dispatcher shouldn't matter. She should've had criminal charges against her. At the very least involving negligence.
I can't imagine what kind of law would actually apply to file any charges against her; it's not like she wasn't doing her job. Despite the rudeness, she probably did what was legally "required" of her (sending someone to the location). You can't really save a drowning person with kindness, after all; anyone else probably wouldn't have been able to do any better.
I'd say her demeanor was pretty despicable, but likely nothing criminal. The worst punishment she could get is being fired at that point, and since she was already leaving... not much to be done, except not letting others forget the way she acted.
Other than comforting words, what did u want her to do for her? The firefighters themselves said, there was no way to get to her and they had to wait for the water to calm. It’s one of those situations where Donna needed to realize she needed to act for herself.
I don't see how she could be. In spite of her demeanor, she was still trying to get the necessary information. It was just that there was very little the woman could actually relay to her. She appeared to relay what little she had to rescue services succinctly, she was just a bitch about it.
Unless they were to look at Donna's logs, and find that she really didn't try to get help, there was no crime done.
Do I think she's a disgusting human being, and hope that Debra's drowning words haunt her into her nightmares? Yes. But I doubt even a civil case could have been brought against her.
She had the audacity to act like that because it as her final shift for that job. If that's how she handles calls with people in distress, that career is definitely not for her. It's like giving a psychopath a job as a guidance counelor.
“The water didn’t just appear”….uh yea Donna that’s how flooding works 🤦♂️
I think she meant like water just appearing without a noticeable increase. Debra knew there was a flood but kept going, obviously not imagining it'd get so bad. The operator was a dick but that was the one thing she had right, there is no way Debra didn't know it was risky. Still, she didn't deserve to die for that mistake nor have her final moments be some asshole on the other end of the line.
@@oof1007 that's the thing, though, floods (particularly flash floods) increase in height *fast*. Like, yeah it's a noticeable increase, but it becomes noticeable too fast to get out of the way.
@@oof1007the literal meaning of a flash flood but okay 😂
I get what you're saying but I see no value in justifying someone whose job it is to respond to an emergency, talking out of their ass so presumptuously about how the person got into their situation. It doesn't matter if she could be right, she wasn't there and doesn't know and she's being presumptuous about how a person got into a situation that is about to kill them. Anyone else in the world should be running their mouth on that before the people you call to save you. Society shouldn't pay you to suck this bad at the job.
@@oof1007you've clearly never experienced a flash flood
The last case is heartbreaking. Especially her thanking the 911 operator for being there for her
Debra repeatedly apologizing to the operator is heart-breaking too. Bless this woman's soul. It's just so painful to listen to. I can't even imagine how I'd feel if that was my mum being spoken to like that while fearing for her life. Rest in peace, Debra Stevens 💝
she kinda deserves it for being so helpless though. TWENTY MINUTES of sitting there doing nothing. jesus christ
@@Rosie-ij3on Honestly listening to and learning about that call ruined my day, week, month. without a doubt the worse thing I have ever come across and made me cry. My heard melts for her family, and I can respect them for trying to come to peace with the injustice.
@@Rosie-ij3onif that was my mother i would be going to jail
Debra was such a sweetheart considering she was panicking and literally about to drown. I think we people with empathy naturally feel protective of people like her, I feel sick and powerless having listened to that. And so angry and disgusted at the operator.
“i can’t breath” that broke tf out of me. this might follow me all my life 🤦🏽♀️
Kind of like Geordius Floydian the 3rd, Rest in piece. 🕊️ 😭
@@Medved- wasnt he recovered and made into george droid? Lord thank microsoft and floydtech for this great scientific discovery.
you havent seen one of nexps videos where that woman burns alive in a 911 call
@@chaska8144 which video??
@@unbotheredsis1934 disturbing things from around the internet volume 14, nexpo is a friend of nicks so abt the same quality, lmk what u think
Timothy should've been keeping an eye on the weather at all times, but instead decided to act all bitter mid-flight, and it lead to the plane being intercepted by a storm. Terrible teacher
Fr instead of being like let’s head back or land he probably wanted to see how badly the kid handled flying in a storm
Why was a 22 year old douchebag in charge of an 18 year old learner pilot? No responsible flight school would ever allow that. More to that story than presented here.
@@Cmin480For shiggles then, to tell to their boss? "Sir, he can't fly in a storm, he's a crap pilot, fail him!!".
@@Cmin480 The "teacher" was nearly a kid himself. Only 3 years difference in age.
@@em7dim9 that didn’t stop him from acting like that like nick said he was supposed to teach and mentor him
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We as a society have GOT to stop forgiving monsters.
As a monster this hurts me. Please call those things something else, maybe the creatures will allow them to have the title of a creature
Nobody in society forgives monsters except ones like them. Sociopaths among us, in our gov, etc,.
@@ultimatecultchaos how about creatures of unforgivable?
This is what you get with this whole "be kind" thing.
No. Fuck kindness. Some people need to get what's coming to them.
@ville__ as a 33 year old primary care physician with autism and ADHD, I would bully you so fucking hard for this comment lmao
Also, Aspergers isn't a valid diagnosis chief. There's only autism, and the spectrum on which we fall on
The "Help me" and "I cant breathe" in that call, along with being able to hear her under the water is fucking bone chilling. Shame on that dispatcher, that's no human being. That's a monster.
Hearing Debra screams is genuinely one of the most chilling things ive ever heard and the 911 operator mocking her makes it even more insidious
God, I couldn't listen the second time, it was genuinely horrifying knowing what Debra was going through. One of my worst fears. I hope she's free from pain now and is resting happily wherever she is. That poor woman.
Yes this one was almost as tough as the lady who burned to death and took her last breath on the phone with a 911 operator. The sad thing is, the dispatcher did almost everything right. It was the firemen and the chief that killed that poor woman. So so sad. I’ll never forget that woman’s screams as she burns and suffocates to death all while the entire fire department was right outside.
@@jamiepender6667oh my god
I don't think you know what 'insidious' means.
That phone call broke my heart... Debra just wanted to talk to someone to help her manage her fear in that terrifying situation and she didn't even get common courtesy. She deserved so much more, so much more compassion..
This made me cry, just awful 😢
Heartbreaking. I hope she was showed a lot of love throughout her life
I obviously don't know McKellar, but he acted like someone who peaked in high school and couldn't mature/get over the mindset of those days. What a dick
Thanks for the clarification there. Thought you knew McKellar for a second.
@@Divoonatam yea gotta preface bc there's always an asshole who takes things too literally. seeing now that it'll be that way no matter what you say though 🤷🏾♂️
@@kilrahbi I was just being sarcastic
@@Divoonatam sorry i get a lot of comments and it's at a point where i genuinely cant tell, i rescind my asshole statement hope you have a good rest of your day/evening
I feel so bad for the kid though, just trying to learn while the other guy is just making fun of him online
the 911 call especially has stuck with me, usually im not affected by things by this but Donna seemed like such a kind hearted person, her desperately apologizing to the operator is truly chilling.
Debra was the one that drowned 😢
@@leahfox im illiterate i stg
That 911 call pissed me off. That is an example of how not to be a 911 operator and I wish nothing but the worst for her
sameeee!! I get hating your job and all but someones life is on the line. she doesnt deserve your displaced anger especially at time like this. and the lady was literally the sweetest person ever, its so sad. what a way to go. i hope donna cant sleep at night. EVERY NIGHT.
I remember someone like that who basically was beligerent and rude. as far as I know, he ended up on THAT registry.
ewwwwwww
@@fandomfan2800Yawn, get better, edgelord
The 911 operater at the end makes my blood boil. Literally laughed at a woman as she was dying...
My jaw dropped when she snapped: "That'll teach you not to drive in the water."
It's understandable that, if another person is hysterical, that it can make those around them start to panic as well, but that remark was heartless.
she chose to sit in that car for over 20 minutes until the water got high enough to take her car away. she was willingly helpless and died for it
@@dieterdelange9488and the fact that she told Debra she should’ve been able to see the water was so dumb. Flash floods happen quickly, and you can’t see the water in the dark, even with your headlights on. It’s often just mistaken for wet roads. What did she think, that the poor woman drove into the water on purpose? It’s so tragic that the last person ever got to talk to was someone who was so horrible to her. It breaks my heart.
@@xstrxdhave you ever been in a flash flood? The water moves quickly, and she couldn’t swim. You can’t just get out of your car and wade through it. There were multiple people who got trapped in their vehicles that night who required rescue. Unfortunately, they couldn’t find Debra in time to save her. Did you even listen to the call? You must be friends with the horrific dispatcher. Zero compassion or empathy.
@@xstrxd Did you not get to the part in the video that said Debra was disabled and couldn't swim?
The last one is so evil. It made me feel sick. I had a teacher who abused me in school and they did nothing about it because it was "her last year anyway." It's not a reason to leave this kind of behavior unchecked. Admittedly I don't know what kind of charges she could face, but wow...
What grade were you in when this happened?
I've gone through a similar situation. It was my elementary school principal and another teacher. 2007, North Allegheny, PA. 2nd grade. principal's last name was Bradley. teacher's was Schwartz. It was her last year there. How people like that can end up running a school, I don't understand.
I hate to hear these stories. You can't change what happened to you, you can only change how you feel about what happened.
My parents went to the school board over my 4th grade teacher's mocking of me & also bc he got mad that I wasn't doing the math problems right one day. He dragged me out of the room & into an empty classroom. I was (am) very short & he was dragging me so fast my feet couldn't keep up. He then shoved me into a desk & told me to "sit there until you get it right!" I had no idea what I was doing wrong & was sitting there crying. An older student came in &, when he heard my story, he sat down & explained how to do the math problems. That's what the teacher should have done! He was reprimanded & I hope he never did that to another student. I remember having to imitate how he dragged me. He was my friend's father & claimed he didn't want to show favoritism. But he did the exact opposite; he never did anything like that to the other students. I'm in my mid-sixties & the event is still so clear in my mind!
I was abused by the teachers at my primary school, so from ages 7 - 11. Unfortunately, that trauma stays, and I have learned to move on the best I can.
I hope you find peace.
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What's worse about the final story is the the police stated that, even if it hadn't been Donna Reneau's final 911 dispatch shift, that her conduct wouldn't have been enough for her to be fired.
That dispatcher should never have been on call. This is what she should have told Donna to do:
-Try to back the car out of the ditch
-if the car is stuck, set the parking brake. Keep headlights and hazard lights on for visibility
- Roll down the windows so she is able to open her door
It makes me so mad that her death was so easily avoidable
She was gonna die regardless. She was literally in the trees, so she wouldn't of been able to back up as her car was legitimately stuck. The cops couldn't get to her because of how bad the flooding was, and she couldn't swim so rolling her windows down would have just made her flood faster and probably would've swept her car away quicker. The 911 operater was a shit person, but there was no one she would've gotten help from in time.
@@meghan92385 Honestly the laughter was the only part that bothered me of her reaction. I feel like the "shut up" was harsh but like... As you said, cops couldn't get to her, she couldn't move her car, it was a no-win situation, but dispatchers have a tendency to be very blunt with callers who won't stop panicking long enough to explain what help they need and where they are and Debra wasn't giving them much to work with and was putting more stress on her body freaking out. Donna could have been more kind and said "okay, try to take deep breaths and calm down," but I can also have empathy for the fact that 911 operators often hear traumatic shit and that moment is probably burned into her brain, based on conversations I've had with people who used to do the same job. Also, absolutely not victim blaming, but Donna literally did everything you shouldn't do when flooding starts, so PLEASE FOLKS do not make the same mistakes. The flooding roads should have led to pulling over somewhere safe, getting out of the car, and getting inside a building. Don't stay on the roads during flash flooding. If your newspaper job finds that unacceptable, the job isn't worth it.
@@averyelliott5645 my brother in christ you cant just say "not victim blaming but" and then literally start victim blaming
@@averyelliott5645the operator literally blamed it on being her last day as a operator and hating her job, she was just plain out ugly
@@pigeonmama it's literally not victim blaming to say "she unfortunately made a poor choice, please do not ever do this." It would be victim blaming if I said she deserved it, which I did not. Sharing "hey, there's a reason you should never do this" is just safety advice that is literally shared by the national weather service any time there are flash flood warnings lmfaooooo. Tell me you never lived anywhere with frequent flash flooding without telling me,
Debra’s case makes me cry. An emergency responder acting this way? If you’ve never been trapped in a flash flood, that situation is horrific.
I whole heartedly agree! It's called a flashflood for a reason and then dismissing her saying she will watch next time about driving through water is so sinister.
I imagine Donna is smart enough to not drive around during a flood warning. Not everyone is that clever, though, clearly.
@@lucretiz regardless, she's the one who took that risk by going through flooded roads. That's why she kept saying sorry.
People keep blaming that operator, but I put the blame on God for this one. I mean, you flashflooded a handicapped with crippling fear of water and giving her last words with an idiot??? What tf was that God!?? So cruel!
@@naz6james570 first off, BRO SHE'S NOT GOING TO READ THIS AND SLIDE INTO YOUR DMS.
I don't have to be in a flash flood to know it's horrific.
Same way I don't have to get lit on fire to know pretty much how it would suck.
I live about an hour away from Forth Smith, Arkansas. Donna, the 911 dispatcher is actually a POLICE OFFICER there now. The whole situation is insane.
I could believe it.
Are you serious
disappointed but not at all surprised
😢
I live in little Rock
4:18 the sound of them screaming is chilling….
Serious
rly gross that the pilots werent legally prosecuted for negligence
I can’t stand thinking that Connor’s final moments on this earth were not only spent being mocked, but those mocking posts being broadcasted for his family to eventually see. :(
The fact that the instructor was only 22 blew me away. He couldn’t be that much better at anything than Conner was, he was barely older than him. The audacity of him to think he’s so much better than Conner is absolutely baffling. Conner didn’t deserve that. He deserved an instructor who valued his life.
I just hope connor was blissfully ignorant in that situation.
the 911 operator is literally making me sick, the amount of unprofessionalism in that woman is unbelieveable but whats also bizzare is the lack of literal empathy. debra was panicking and drowning and telling a person like that to SHUT UP like WHAT
It make me so sad how she was drowning while the person is telling her to shut up Debra could have continued her life and her mom too if it wasn’t for a rude 911 dispatcher
Operator's name is Donna Reneau
I've heard 9-1-1 calls like the Debra Stevens call before. Some dispatchers show very little empathy, and often do seem annoyed when calls are played in the media.
There is no reason why these dispatch callers act this way. How can you not have empathy for people at their most desperate. No mercy for people in helping positions who become so desensitized and continue to work.
You'd think you would need some basic levels of empathy in a job that involves public service but I guess not. :/
They can be annoyed all they want. People are entitled to know these kind of cases.
Oh they don't like they're heartless behaviour being revealed to the world, do they? Well, good. Everyone should see those monsters' true colours.
The one in the Josh Powell case comes to mind.
seeing Connor’s instructor be so cruel to him in his last moments is so heart breaking. These videos just break my heart sometimes
That last case angered me to my core. Debra seemed like such a sweet soul, even going as far as thanking an individual who couldn’t seem to care less in such a dire situation. She didn’t deserve that one bit. My heart absolutely breaks for her and her family. I hope Donna is haunted by this for the rest of her life. Pathetic. Rip Debra Stevens
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As a pilot myself, I have studied both aviation cases presented here. The first one is tragic, and the second one is just downright disgusting. The student was doing everything right. It's hard as a private pilot student to be assertive over your instructor, especially when it's not your full time instructor. I'm currently preparing for my certified flight instructor checkride, and everything that this instructor was doing was a huge red flag and goes against what we are taught. He is a disgrace to the community and I hope the families of both pilots can find peace through the loss of their sons.
Was. He was a disgrace to the community
I don't know anything about commercial passenger planes, but it's pretty disturbing that something as simple as wingflaps being in the wrong position can have such deadly consequences.
@@rodneyabrett yes, that is why we follow strict checklists
Don't know .ich about what goes on in the passenger jets these days but even back then when planes were simpler and ran propeller even the most minor of changes can really fuck up your plane from as early as the design not to mention the production parts and operation.
22 year olds should not be instructors. I’m not sure why he agreed to it if he had obligations at 4AM the following day.
debra’s story breaks my heart. as someone who’s been let down by police operators before, i cannot imagine the sheer devastation she felt. she had so much faith in reneau and that monster dashed it to pieces without hesitation
edit: i’ve been asked to share my story, but youtube keeps deleting my replies… it seems like my comments are disappearing, oddly enough. thanks for listening, guys
unfortunately, there was an incident involving my mom. she was at a man’s house and seemed to have been given something she shouldn't have taken. we received frantic messages from her, but we were unsure what to do, as our dad wouldn’t pick up our calls due to time zone differences. when we called the police, the operator wasn't helpful and seemed dismissive. he kept telling us to calm down, and that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. we did give him an address, and my mom’s phone number, but he said there was nothing they could do. eventually, we reached out to a friend's dad, who helped get my mom to safety. it turns out the man involved had a history of misconduct
could you share your story? (if you don't mind of course) I work indirectly with 911 operators so I find this stuff really fascinating
@@namelessnocebo content warning ahead for anyone reading, but i can definitely share. thank you for the interest
i was 17 and my sister was 14. my mom had lent her car to an ex-neighbour and he totalled it, so she went to his house to discuss the repair fees. there was no indication that he was a threat and he’d been invited to our house for dinner several times. while she was there, he drugged and raped her. she told me later that she managed to lock herself in his bathroom but she was quickly losing her hand eye coordination - she tried to text us but she could only write cryptic fragments like ‘help ples”
i called the police, i didn’t know she was being assaulted but i knew she was in danger. i was distraught and i can remember hyperventilating at one point because i have a diagnosed anxiety disorder. the responder got frustrated with me quickly, he kept telling me to calm down but his tone was abrasive and irritated. he asked for an address, i gave it to him, but he told me i was overreacting and that i should just call her first. my sister took the phone while i tried to call my mom, my dad, etc. no one could help me and the responder kept telling us off, telling us to calm down. i think i hung up eventually out of frustration, because it was just a back and forth of “please send help” then “we can’t do anything yet.”
It reminds me of one night when I was so sick I couldn’t move and was going in and out of consciousness. I called 911 and when they didn’t show up after half an hour I called again. The dispatcher called me “impatient” and “entitled” and said all their paramedics were busy dealing with more serious calls. She would periodically call me over the next 8 hours and one time, when I was passed out and couldn’t answer the phone, she called again and sounded angry at me for ignoring the previous call. Finally, in the morning, my mom called and immediately rushed to help. She took me to the hospital and the next time that dispatcher called to check on me she gave her a piece of her mind.
could you tell us your story? If you are ok with it
@@namelessnocebo i can, thank you guys for the interest
my mom went to a neighbour’s house because he’d borrowed our car and totalled it. she needed to talk to him about the repair fees. there wasn’t anything suspicious or threatening about him because we’d known him for well over a year. he drugged her, and SA’d her. she had enough motor function that she could text us fragments, so we knew she was in danger but we didn’t know why
my sister was only 14, she called the cops and the responder was frankly rude and irritated. he kept sternly telling us to calm down, that he couldn’t hear us. i had a drink of water and through the tears i told him that my mom was at a man’s house and she was asking for help. i was only 17 at the time so i didn’t really know what to tell him. i gave him an address, and i tried my best to get ahold of my dad, but the responder was continuously hostile with us. totally paraphrasing here, but i think he also told us we were overreacting at one point, and that we shouldn’t assume the circumstances of the situation - kinda like a teacher telling off a bad student
eventually we hung up because we were genuinely panicking and didn’t know what to do. my mom’s okay, thankfully she wasn’t severely hurt. it turned out that the neighbour had a history of those sorts of charges. it was a little traumatic for us and the way the responder acted created a very irrational distrust in the police for me - it didn’t help that i had a very bad experience with a social worker the previous year
31:11 I can't even finish the last part of the video with the 911 call, the operator's attitude while that poor woman is pleading for her life trapped in her car is beyond disturbing. I hope that she is in a better place now.
a couple of notes on Hu Xinyu's case that are important
- the "man walking his dog" was a school security officer
- at some point (I think before the security footage) Xinyu was at one of dormitory balconies, presumably to jump. literally one of the worst sins of (most) asian countries is to inconvenience others, likely why he went into the forest instead so no one would have the "burden" of seeing his body if he had jumped at the dorm
- apparently his jacket was on backwards??
- the school campus is gated, Xinyu was found on school grounds
I tend to lean more toward the fact that he was intentionally killed.
The fact that the school became extreme aggressive in their response to the accusation and the disappearances of previous students makes me think that the whole 'ending himself' narrative was to get the heat off of them.
We all know how China is when it comes to their views on human life and if the boy did indeed have a rare blood type, I could very easily see them popping him off for those valuable organs and such.
To believe the state narrative is a fools errand.
also dont need blood type to get organ match, thats is a far less likely way than to get from other blood types that can be used giving many options!
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
I’m not sure what you’re saying. I’m a medical professional, I’m afraid the blood type of the donor still must be compatible with the recipient. The rules for blood type in transplantation are exactly the same as they are for blood transfusion. More blood types can be used with each other than once believed. But they must be compatible.
@@MFLimited "I’m a medical professional, "
funny you didnt say what type! i wonder why!
and its sad you cant comprehend that the rare blood type will be much easier to find a match from another blood type group! than the exact same rare one!
Also as i said that excuse is proven false by this fact and also it didnt happen!
"I’m afraid the blood type of the donor still must be compatible with the recipient. "
Yes i said that!
Im little iffy with this one as anything reported in china has to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
Im leaning more on to that it wasnt self deleating, China is well known of covering things up, censoring things and shutting people up (usually parents).
And the whole burden thing, yes and no. Really depends on what part of asia. Kinda ridicilous to think the burden/inconvinience wouldnt be as bad had he hung himself considering it took a long time to "find" him.
For context, those experienced pilots forgetting to extend takeoff flaps is like an F1 driver forgetting to slow down around a corner
I’m from Arkansas. I remember when that 911 call happened. It was on the news for weeks after. I was a child. This was scarier than any horror movie or Halloween costume ever was. I remember laying in bed at night, putting myself in her position. Scared for my life, fear of water, it’s dark and I’m scared and the only person who could help me… was making fun of me. Terrified me to my core. I still think about it fairly regularly, including every time I’m driving while it’s raining. Her screams haunt me
Damn, that's horrible. :( I live in Arkansas now, but only recently in the past few years... used to live in Texas. :p
I wish the operator could have enough guilt over her actions to know that people aren't just furious at her, but people like you even got traumatized as a child over it... evil woman. :(
we studied debra's case in criminal law my junior year of high school, it still breaks my heart to think about what she went through.
Im amazed how Nick is still sane after 5 years of research on madness
At this point its the add pulling him to earth
How is this bot still botting? Thought it was done.
Perhaps he has lost his mind and is covering his insanity well.
I’m amazed how you’re still on the internet making bottom of the barrel generic comments
At this point he should have people to help him create the content.
the last one should be a reminder to "turn around, don't drown" when there's flooding in your area. most people don't know how strong water truly is until it's too late. my heart breaks for debra and her family 💔
that school sounds super suspicious to me. how tf is no one questioning why there’s barbed wire keeping the kids in? it sounds like more of a prison than a school
I hate to be that guy, but… you’ve gotta remember what country that school is in. This kind of case is EXCEEDINGLY common there, you’d be surprised how local and deep rooted the corruption goes.
I mean...the principal didn't even TRY to sound unsuspicious.
cuz it's china
To be fair, in my country, barbed wire to protect houses and other property is really common. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same was common in china, specifically for schools.
@@vamppunch6983 yeah i guess that could be it. i’ve just never heard of a school that has so many security measures to keep the students inside before
26:59 I hate hate hate being mr. Conspiracy. But you expect me to believe that a search of a school and the surrounding area is gonna miss a student who was that close to the school. Also, if he did take his life, what about the other disappearances. It seems like it's unlikely a kid sewer slides every year by disappearing. Either way I still fault the school for not helping the kid with mental health. Though, if the journal did show signs of Ill mental health why not investigate that rather then let the media run wild????
Suicide is very common in South East Asian countries, you'd be surprised, other than that. Not much open source info I know of about this case, therefore it remains in the greyzone.
@@advisorynotice that's actually depressingly sad. I hope these kids are getting help now, right?
@@kbennett2587 lots of obligations and stress, hopefully the new generation addresses the mental health issues.
I remember this story when it first started coming. Back then I definitely thought he was killed even when they said they found his body. I still feel like he was murdered for whatever reason to this day
We arent, Seeking for help isnt a normalized thing here in south east asia, i live in japan and at my school alone this year over 72 students have comitted suicide. It is auch a common thing here @kbennett2587
I was tearing up when she started yelling "I can't breathe"
George Floyd vibes
Without the robbing a pregnant woman part @@JustSomeKittenwithaGun
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGun Oh ok
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunexcept she wasn’t on fentanyl
@@YenesisTua
If George was on Fetanyl, he wouldn’t be able to speak. Also, he was being detained for an alleged counterfeit note.
I don't know why I watch these types of videos anymore. I watch horror stuff to be horrified and to feel a bit of a thrill, and then I go about my day going, "WHEW, that was kind of spooky, haha."
Instead, videos like the 911 Operator leave me so damn angry instead. They leave me absolutely livid that another person can treat other people in horrible situations like that, and knowing the fact that there are people out there who not only did not get punished but probably don't feel an ounce of guilt over it infuriates me to no end.
my thoughts exactly, now its 1am and im mad in bed lol
I'm a marine veteran. My va doctors call me a liar, scoff at and roll their eyes at me, tell me my issues aren't real. I'm just one of 20+ million humans thrown away by the US military. We are still alive. No one cares.
I saw red and destroyed my lungs from uncontrollable roars of rage. This wench belongs on a cross
Humans are the most terrifying monsters
Yep. I can handle horror stories, but some stories are so real.
the debra steven’s call is absolutely horrifying. debra was pleading for her life, and even apologized to donna herself and thanked donna for being there. she seemed like such a sweet and caring woman. donna is nothing but evil, and i hope she never finds peace for what she has done.
I've met enough people like Luke to know they aren't particularly skilled or knowledgable in the field of English, or teaching, nor do they have a passion for the language.
They're simply using their only marketable asset to get by while they take their country of choice for everything that they feel entitled to. This story is the tip of a harrowing iceberg.
That 911 call makes my blood boil. That poor woman, scared to death and still apologizing for inconveniencing the operator who doesn't give a shit about her.
The fact that the operator was the last person she spoke to makes me sick. Bless her family for being forgiving. I know I wouldn't be.
The instructor was infuriating too, but not to the same degree.
Edit: spelling
Someone outta of just handled that for the family, just got the family is spineless doesn’t mean ms quarter pounder should be walking free.
god that last one was so sickening. i've never heard a 911 operator sound so legitimately annoyed by someone who was quite literally crying for her life on the other end of the phone. and the fact that Debra was literally APOLOGISING to Donna for getting upset when her literal life was on the line. no repercussions is bad enough, but the lack of any kind of apology or remorse is so heartbreaking. and then Debra's family going on to forgive Donna despite it all? Debra did not deserve to, in her final moments, be mocked and scolded by the one person that is meant to be providing help. absolutely disgusting.
@rbmay
I get all of that but besides it being her final shift a lot of the dismissivness probably came from a place of her knowing that it was going to take fucking forever for the cop's to actually arrive on scene and she probably figured that she was going to have to listen to that woman panicking like that over the phone with her for hours if nothing drastic took place.
@@hollowgonzalo4329 i don't think that's an excuse for her behaviour though. i think that no matter the circumstances, no matter if she was on that call for three hours, no matter if Debra was being "annoying", she's quite literally screaming for her life. it's so disgusting of Donna to get irritated with Debra, and to tell her to "shut up" in her final moments. even if this wasn't a fatal situation, and Debra was scared for no reason, Donna should still have the patience and respect that 911 operators are trained to have. no matter the circumstances, a 911 operator should not be outright rude to someone who is as terrified as Debra was. i think everyone deserves that ounce of respect, _especially_ in their final moments.
That woman was panicking and not able to provide any helpful information while she was actively trying to be assisted by 911 and rescue workers. It's normal to be frustrated at such stupidity when you have fire rescue asking for her location, the person who is drowning is unable to provide even the most basic information, meanwhile the location ping doesn't show she has moved, she won't stop babbling about nonsense, and she outright refuses to calm down and just give you her location.
Sometimes that frustration comes out while working 911 dispatch, and Donna received more than enough death threats over it, but you can help add to those if you feel it's necessary. The unfortunate truth for Donna is that she got called by a woman who decided to kill herself by driving out into a flood, and got blamed for this woman's su!c!de, which is very sad. The moral of the story shouldn't be "911 dispatchers should be robots that are always cheerful" it's "you shouldn't drive during a flood watch", but if you think robots are better than people you might think that.
Anyway, hopefully you never wake up during a surgery or hear the banter that paramedics make about obese people. Donna was reasonably respectful, if a tad frustrated, and that's all.
@@SecuR0MIt’s normal to be frustrated and annoyed by certain callers, but their job is to stay calm. Defending laughing at a woman dying? You’re mentally ill. Get help.
@@SecuR0M by calling it su!cide you are blowing the other side out of proportions. She would need to do all that with intention of taking her own life. Her choices were stupid but not su!cidal. She did give all the information she could. Also just because you are suppose to be calm doesn't mean you are able to do that. On that note even if frustrated i don't why would you remind another person who is panicking its their fault, because many people wouldn't probably enjoy being put down in a time that can be their final moments. I think you are way too harsh on the victim. (I don't condone sending death threats to the dispatcher either)
I have no words for the last one.
R.I.P Debra
Guess you did have words...
Oh, man. That last call made me tear up and I'm not a cryer.
What a lovely, gorgeous person taken from us due to malicious negligence - my heart will always be with Debra and her mother, Nancy.
Hu Xinyu case is very frightening for me. Whole campus is covered in cameras, yet he somehow found that one blindspot just to commit suicide. And police couldn't find a body that was so close to school. There was no reason to hide from cameras in the first place. If he wished to die he could've just go for it.
And the fact that this was in China makes it even more complex, considering their "interesting" authority
Kid was 100% taken out for his blood type and when they couldn't cover it up they faked a hanging. There are hundreds of stories like this from China. Place is a hellhole.
Yeah. If he'd been a Uyghur or Tibetan there'd be reason to assume the police had killed him, and if he'd been related to Falun Gong there'd be precedent for the organ-harvesting. The only part of that conspiracy that was inherently unprecedented was that it was supposed to be for the sake of a "local" official-I don't see the Chinese government caring that much when they've got to have literally millions of those.
It's important to note that many believed the Hu Xinyu organ harvesting conspiracy because illegal organ harvesting is in reality a very big issue in China with many verified reports of people being kidnapped and killed for their organs.
It's not every day that a story gets to me, but poor Debra's story really does. It's so horrible to hear her suffer and panic like that, and to be spoken down to by someone who doesn't sound like they care about anyone. Some people are legitimately ice cold when it comes to other people and caring about them. I really don't understand how anyone can be so/sound so unphased when they are literally hearing someone die.
The fact that she remained so sweet and selfless, constantly apologising for her completely rational fear and what not, made it so much worse. I hope karma exists because that dispatcher deserves every last bit of it
@@carl-wheezer I agree. I couldn't just sit there if it were me and be so heartless. That poor woman knew what was happening to her and she was scared and rightly so. The dispatcher acted like she was just wasting her time and clearly didn't care one bit. It just sounded so sociopathic.
jesus christ, the amount of relief when he said the audio clip of Hu Xinyu was fake...
Yea but who knows if that’s true.
@@gennielinara2356i think it was real AF
I doubt the legitimacy of the audio recording but the rest of the details are so suspicious especially given chinas history of not being very honest about people’s disappearances.
@@Иблис96 I mean , the school as cameras everywhere , manages to find the only dead corner of the whole place. Can't even leave due to barbed wire. somehow ended himself just outside of his school while managing to bug the cameras and find an exit without anyone noticing? Yeah bullshit kid was killed by someone.
Also, why was the journal only found after the body was found? Suspicious AF. It could be how the video was presented though, but... Yeah, hard to trust anything outta the CCP
Hearing that last story made me think of my own situation. I was in middle school in the nurses office crying because of my stomach pain that would occur every month or so. Now I wasn’t wailing, I was more so sniffling and maybe once in a while making a sound because of the pain and you know what the nurse told me? To shut up. You know what happened after? I spent around 2 months in the hospital because I had to get extensive abdominal surgery to correct what I had wrong with me. That nurse probably thought I was making it up to go home.
Don’t get jobs that require empathy, if you can’t do it. I’m not saying to let your empathy overwhelm you either, just show that you care. I bet if that operator showed Debra some urgency and care, Debra wouldn’t have been panicking as much. I hope she is resting in peace.
a lot of people are confused as to why debra had that job. it's the same reason abusers get into care jobs (like elder care) despite obvious signs or even cases of abuse ... UNDERSTAFFING. when you are understaffed & you're a service that is needed, sadly, most will take anyone rather.
What's worse is when you report that abuse, because of the understaffing, especially in aged care homes, they don't give a shit about protecting you from the angry abusers who will make your work life hell. I had belongings stolen from me and no one came and helped me and the only good carer when we and another resident were in danger. After that incident report and a report to the facility manager, these abusers did everything they could to make me quit.
Debra Stevens was the victim. The 911 operator's name is Donna.
Not just that, the burnout in people that genuinely care is real. So over time the empathic people end up having to quit and you end up with a skew towards the sociopaths that find it an easy desk job.
That Debra Stevens call genuinely breaks my heart. Listening as I ride to work and had to stop just to compose myself. Truly chilling. I hope that woman never gets another restful moment
Jesus . If this stuff really affects you like that than you probably shouldn’t listen to it
@@JoeRogansForehead You're acting like it's easy listening somebody whose life is in danger.
@@gr8gmr I mean , most people here don’t have any type of reaction where they have to stop their car . If you’re getting a physical panic from watching content maybe you should stop watching it while driving. I don’t feel anything close to that while watching or hearing any of that. It just dosnt affect me in any physical way. So no i wouldnt call it easy but it dosnt cause physical reactions .
Yeah I feel bad for the person who’s doing but i dont need to stop my car to compose myself
@@JoeRogansForehead Well that's just you. Not everybody has the same reaction. And even if you don't, based on the content, it should still be understandable that such an uncomfortable audio would cause reactions like that from other people. It's not unusual.
Fuck's sake, just don't listen to this while you're driving. If it causes you to need to pull over to compose yourself, just wait to watch when you aren't behind the wheel of a car
I don't know if it is the voice, the delivery, the background music, the hard cuts to black then start talking, the vhs effect with distorted colors but this is one of the few if only true crime channels that gives me chills/feel unsettled and kudo for not covering the same cases a million other youtubers do. I always find something I have never heard of!
The last one is so heartbreaking, it genuinely made me cry. Infuriating that she never got any justice
I was a 9-1-1 emergency dispatcher for fire and police for many years. The way this dispatcher acted is beyond disgusting. She should never be allowed to work in any capacity that requires compassion.
Tell her.
It was her last day, she was leaving anyway, plus they had hundreds of calls to deal with debra wasn’t the only person experiencing an emergency. She was unfortunately, in an area that firefighters weren’t able to get to until the water calmed so they could at least use the boats, to get to her.
@@ll2323 that doesn't excuse her behaviour at all!
@@Moonless87 no it doesn’t but people calling for her to be fired obviously weren’t aware she was on her last shift.
@@ll2323 Fair, but its still sad that she was never punished in anyway for what she said.
The last one really disturbed me, I couldn’t help but cry.
Boohoo
@@johnxina3709shut up flop
@@johnxina3709you heard a woman cry for help and die i know this is a troll but why man?
@@johnxina3709don’t get cut on that edge lol
Student Hu's body was definitely planted there. It was found a mere 200~300m away from his dorm, barely in the outskirts of the woods, months after the incident. Meanwhile, there had been an estimated 2000 people looking for him shortly after he disappeared, because many families and communities that lived nearby had joined the search. They scoured through the woods, the nearby ponds and lakes, all nearby businesses and houses, water tanks, the entire college and student dorms, and so on. The chances of so many people missing such a nearby spot for such a long time are absurdly low.. Rotten Mango has a 1.5hr long video on it
Why is no one talking about how clearly they returned the body when they seen how much heat they were getting
I was looking for this comment. This case bothered me for a long time. I want to know if his mother saw the footage or heard the recording they said was him on it and what her take is. Does she believe that is her son in them? Not that it will give a definitive answer, but there are so many questions people should be asking that demand answers. Haven't they also at least looked around for the officials who share his blood type?
I can’t listen to that 911 call. I watch a shocking amount of body camera footage, 911 calls, interrogations, trials, you name it. This specific 911 call disturbed me beyond words. I remember the first time I heard it and I was genuinely sick. I cannot believe the way she was treated while terrified and dying. It’s literally a nightmare. I cannot IMAGINE.
Having worked at the Fort Smith AR dispatch center in the early 2000s, I’m not surprised. They were horrible people who made fun of the callers, said they deserved to have the game over, laughed about sewer slides, said people were nothing but trouble, and refused to enter missing reports because “they’ll never be found so why waste time”. I didn’t even last a year there. After I quit, several people were either prosecuted for misuse, s*xual assault and indecency, etc. I hated those people. As they’d say, “can’t be breaking the law if you’re above it”.
holy shit.
Nick, this is possibly the first video i havent been able to finish of yours. Youve covered some awful and horrible circumstances but the 911 call from Debra Stevens is possibly one of the worst audios ive heard in my life. It's horrible that the 911 operator didnt face repercussions for how she acted, and i cant listen to the whole audio youve included knowing it's of a woman who was dying. RIP Debra Stevens
Thanks for bringing light to these, and for everyones sake i hope there is a day where there is no more new incidents like this
As someone who watches these types of videos religiously and is typically kinda desensitized to stuff like this I 100% understand where you are coming from. That 911 call genuinely made me uncomfortable. That is a real phone call with a distressed woman legitimately pleading for help while her life was on the line... halfway through the audio I Googled Debra Stevens and realized she passed and I had to pause the vid.
I can't even describe the feeling I had, it was nauseating but I was also extremely angry with the operator. I can't believe Debra's family forgave the operator, shows what kind of people they are. if that was my family member I couldn't even imagine how I'd feel.
@@christiannrrr same. I consume a lot of true crime so i'm used to listening to 911audios/seeing videos of those who have passed. But this was truly the only time I couldn't listen to the entirety of a call. Debra deserved better in the end and I hope her family is doing as well as they can.
Same here. I won’t even watch that section tbh. I’ll get too angry and sad. I’ve seen the worst of the worst on the internet but this takes the cake. True depravity. And Donna ended up winning an award.
A 22 year old flight instructor! There's your first problem. Regardless of experience, there is a maturity issue.
You can thank the FAA for creating outrageous experience requirements to work any other pilot job. Flying is the only industry where the only viable entry level position is teaching. 22 years old is barely even average for typical instructor age, especially at pilot mills like ATP.
Hearing that 911 call absolutely broke my heart into pieces, Debra seemed to be the absolute sweetest, even at such a horrible situation that cost her life. I cannot argue with the choice of the family in forgiving that dispatcher, but I do believe that what the dispatcher has done will haunt her for the rest of her days.
I’ll never understand how humanity still goes on with the unfairness of such individuals that truly show humanity, only for their life to be cut short.
McKellar seems like a real prick. Some teachers are just awful people who like having authority over, and judging, others. It's a shame his unfortunate student had to suffer for his impatience. It sounds like the kid was trying to do everything by the book. McKellar should've appreciated that instead of mocking it.
McKellar should not only appreciate it but also reinforce it, saying “good job, never forget safety first. Take as long as you need if it means your life.” McKellar should have been looking over Connor’s work too. Two pairs of eyes are better than one.
It’s infuriating that McKellar’s incompetence as a teacher was the direct cause of both his and his students deaths. That last Snapchat is damning evidence all on its own, guy apparently had the time to make a post about the danger they were in but no time to take the appropriate precautions to avoid it.
@ville__ Is your "better content" spamming the comment section of an established content creator? If so: you nailed it, "asperger" boy.
@ville__ does that matter lol? Over sharing on the internet isn’t safe. Keep your opinions to yourself sometimes.
The last case with Debra Stevens really angered me, that 911 operator is one sick evil human.
Her "Evil" is rather really really really tame. Cartel videos would make her "Evil" look like Nick Junior from Nickaloadeon,
Who the hell would want to be delivering papers in 2019? Who the hell is still reading the newspaper in 2019??
@@dolomitilino9015 old people, probably
@@mihf772 well at that point, you pretty much put yourself in that predicament
I'll take a more charitable stance that the operator was trying to make Debra 'shut up, calm down and listen' by keeping the conversation going.
If it really came to her waiting there four hours, her conctantly crying and screaming would deplete the oxygen in no time.
I'm not even convinced that it's laughter we hear in the audio, more like a "I don't know what I could tell you ma'am" sound.
If you try to ask for information someone so panicked of course you will sound like you don't care, but these informations can save this person's life.
If someone calls you and begs you to save him from drowning, your options are limited. The rescuers were dispatched, so this lady did
the most important part of her job right. For me, this situation looks like blaming someone's heart attack on the person that did CPR.
As someone who knew Connor personally (not “friends” with him, but knew who he was and did interact with him some before we graduated), used to be his neighbor, had his mom as a teacher, etc, he was a genuinely good, smart guy. Everyone was so devastated when we found out about the crash and were so heartbroken for his mom :( His birthday was just a few days ago, so all of his friends were posting pictures of him and saying how much they missed him. Such a tragedy he was taken so soon
I've heard the long version of that 911 call, and Donna's behavior is pretty reprehensible. Unfortunatrly, Debra wasn't able to give the most helpful description of her location, and according to Donna, all responders were busy with other flood related emergencies. So, I could see how someone would get frustrated in that situation. Having no control and feeling helpless could absolutely make someone react emotionally, and with frustration. But Donna's reaction is just cruel. I wish she had been able to walk Debra through actions she could take to help herself while waiting for first responders, but I don't even know if there was anything she could have done. Truly tragic, and Donna should have faced repercussions.
The 911 call is infuriating. Heart breaking, extremely upsetting and absolutely, completely infuriating.
When you said he moved to Thailand and became an English school teacher, I knew what was coming next.
Why?
@@GobbleWobble123its very common for pedo from the west to come to asia and get a job as a English teacher.
@@GobbleWobble123reminded me of one of the worlds most notorious predators Mr swirl. He also was an English teacher and would use his profession to get closer to minors. A lot of the time they will also becomes priests usually catholic or any profession that could get them close to children.
@@GobbleWobble123predators also tend to go to foreign countries to find victims. Where there might be less awareness and legal punishment
@@Ga_mma1it also tends to be in countries with a large wealth gap. So they can target poorer kids who are more vulnerable and probably more likely to be swayed by "presents" and stuff. And I'd imagine these predators probably know that poorer people in a lot of places are just not seen as trustworthy by the police. And a lot of countries have a shame culture around anything like those crimes so they prefer to either take justice into their own hands or the parents just try and sweep it under the rug to avoid a scandal
At least that's what seems to happen in certain cases, i don't want to generalise more than i should
That 911 call is, without a doubt, the darkest segment in this series to date. Hearing that poor woman's final breathes and cries for help, only for the dispatcher to do nothing but scold her is one of the most horrific things imaginable. And not to mention the fact she died surrounded by the one thing she feared the most is nothing short of heartbreaking. It makes me dread the thought of calling 911 myself if I were thrown in a similar perilous situation. They might as well just tell me I'm already dead... and that they murdered me.
The so-called "flight instructor" drumming his fingers on the plane set my teeth on edge. My dad used to have his pilot's license. If he'd had a flight instructor like that and lived to tell the tale, I'd be sending some furious emails
Last one, 911 call, I had heard this once before, and ONCE was enough for me. Poor lady & absolutely horrible 911 dispatcher!!!!
Thanks for the upload & enjoy your weekend!
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All race's lives matter stfu@@domoetker3967
I was thinking the same thing. I recognized the call immediately and I've decided not to listen again.
I’ve never come across it before and I couldn’t finish it. So horrific
this takes the “always be kind to others because u never know when it may be your final moments” , to the next level .
That 911 call made me feel sick. Just hearing her cry that she can't swim and that she's scared is making my heart race. Listening to it made me wish I could jump through that call myself and save her, somehow.
@NE0WAFNAESTHETICS
At least he chose to be helpful than you being rude
@NE0WAFNAESTHETICS ...Everybody uses pronouns, dude. It's literally part of grammar and syntax.
@NE0WAFNAESTHETICS Go finish your homework lil boy. If you don't even realized that he she it are also pronoun , just stop trying to be edgy and stay in school.
The last story was heart breaking, having your final moments be spent like that yet still apologizing because you’re so terrified 😢