I like your overall review format, thank you!. I just had this unit for about a 2 weeks. I really liked the round design and it seemed great as an affordable but unique-ish computer, however, I faced serious accuracy issues! Each day I made my known 5 mile trek to work, Id have at least one freeze of speedometer, for anywhere from 10 to 60+ sec. Every time there was a freeze, it was on the higher speed end (so I was going 20 but slowed to stop, but speedometer still showed 20) and I always had a correspondingly higher than actual distance, it was usually reporting 7 mi distance on a 5 mi journey, and I had a wide open sky in the US... This saddened me so I returned it. If they fixed this issue, or if it wasnt as huge, then Id keep it, but its been out awhile now and I just had it and had latest fw so its unlikely they'll fix this? Take note that I had nothing linked to it, so a cadence or speed sensor may alleviate this, as TSC didnt seem to have any issues?!
Thanks very helpful, I would just add the time option is to select plus or minus hours of GMT dependent on where you live, you are not setting the time as such.
I am an enormous fan of your channel, and can't wait to give thumb ups each review. Want to say where I'm coming from regarding something. I love the Chinese people and they have a great history of a highly refined and great culture. What they produce is great generally. I've been a vocal proponent of Taiwan since I was a boy when I looked at Chaing Kai-shek as a hero. However, the CCP is hell-bent on global domination, and they have little compassion on whoever stands in their way. Therefore, I go to great lengths at times to avoid products made in China. For instance, I use my Korean phone as a GPS and made my own thingamajig to mount it on my handlebars. I'd rather have a country than a bargain. Let's all practice a little pocketbook patriotism and support the home team whenever we can. Thanks and all the best.
Sadly that's true. There was a comment going around something like "Buy a Chinese car" you've just bought an RPG. Some truth in that as many large companies care CCP part owned and tax on goods sold are going towards military expansion. It's tough because tee like affordable products.
The CYCPLUS M2 has a manual backlight (the bottom right button toggles it) so you control how long it is on (it's okay in terms of brightness - good in direct sun or in the dark but dim during mixed conditions). Higher-end computers have automatic backlights that are triggered through an ambient light sensor which is easier to use. With the M2 you'll have to remember to turn the backlight off during the day to help extend the battery life.
The CYCPLUS computers use the standard GMT time zones to set the time. You can find a full map here to find the GMT offset for your location - www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
@@TheSweetCyclists Thank you. While that link didn't help I did find a video to help me figure out I lived in -7 timezone. This is new to me but I understand the simplicity. It's too bad there's not a site with a map and all the numbers to correspond to the different time zones. Edit: After writing this I zoomed into the map at the link you provided and did see the numbers at the bottom of the map. I found this link earlier but again, didn't see it had the numbers for each time zone. Maybe this will help another goofy person who missed it the first and second time (pun intended).
@@SW-Video I was going to say - that link is a map with numbers. You also always google your location and find out GMT offset. Higher-end GPS computers have simpler interfaces or use the app to sync the time zone automatically so you normally don't have to worry about this step.
For an MTB rider (Single Track). What brand of cadence sensor do you recommend? Also, what power sensor do you recommend? Love your videos💪. Very detailed and fun to watch 😁
Nearly all cadence sensors are the same - you can mix and match from different brands and it should all work. I'd recommend just re-using the ones you already own or pick up a matching CYCPLUS one since they are cheap.
CYCPLUS does offer bundles with some of their GPS computers. These days you can use any speed / heart rate / cadence sensor with nearly any GPS so I would just shop around for what is available and affordable. There are some combo cadence / speed sensor (magnet on crank / rear wheel and single receiver) that are convenient for getting both data points together.
Hi, great video & thank you for taking time out to make it. I have the M1 computer that i am using on my Motorcycle, the computer works really well and i am very happy with it. As my Motorcycle speedo reads in KMH i needed something to show my speed in MPH to stop me getting caught out by speed cameras & mr plod. Can you please tell me how accurate the M1 computer is? because by my bad mathes the M1 is on average 4 MPH faster than my motorcycle speedo. Any help would be great and save me from getting a speeding ticket ; )
No problem. As far as accuracy, that would be hard to quantify without using a calibrated device. Comparing it directly to your motorcycle's speedo can be tricky and your speedo will also be slightly inaccurate. If you have any speed display signs on the road you could compare the GPS / speedo to that at different speeds.
Most GPS computers like this use the built in GPS for speed / distance. For more accuracy (it also works in tunnels / cities where GPS can cut out) you can use a speed sensor + the correct wheel circumference to compute speed / distance.
Hi, this m2 had GPS sensor for speed? I also saw got sell option for sensor cadence and speed sensor. Just to check why need 2 speed sensor? Or is it local speed sensor is better then GPS speed sensor?
Most GPS computers allow you to connect to speed sensors. They can be more accurate and you don't have to worry about GPS cutouts (tunnels / dense forests). Unless you have a lot of GPS issues or want to see your wheel speed on a trainer you don't need it.
I think you're asking about the C4 Time Zone setting? That's the time relative to UTC. You can find out what your offset is using a map like - www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
The problem With USB type charging is the product end up in the bin once the connection fails. I've just binned a working igpsport 618 as it can't charge after only a couple of years of use. I have an old cateye with a dedicated cradle connection to USB charger that's still going strong after 7 years. I'd consider this product it looks good but the USB phone charging design is putting me off
Good point. The charging port for any product can be it's weak point, you can't really keep using it if it fails. Personally we haven't had a USB port failure on GPS computer, only a taillight which was charged quite often though.
It takes some time to get used to the "save ride" button sequence, most GPS computers have more intuitive ways to stop and save a ride. That said, the M2 is still one of the more unique looking computers on the market.
Yes. Most cycling computers are compatible with most modern speed / cadence sensors. You don't have to buy CYCPLUS specific sensors as long as your sensors have the ANT+ / Bluetooth connectivity which they usually do.
It's a manual back light so it will stay on. It isn't a particularly bright backlight though, so it is difficult to tell whether it is on or off in the sun.
That's an interesting question - I haven't taken it that fast to see if there is a 3rd digit display. I suspect it is probably limited to 2 digits (99 km/h).
Good question. I don't believe so. Also note that the "save ride" button is not the same as start / pause recording - you have to hold the lap button down which is easy to forget.
The weak point is the micro switches in the buttons, mine stopped working after less than a year. The aliexpess seller, the official Cycplus store, does not respect the guarantee and offers a refund of 5 USD
Sorry to hear that. The CYCPLUS should have a 1 year warranty, I would try their support email / social media contacts to get someone to help you. It's really not an expensive computer so even a free replacement would be better than negative publicity.
The display is not that bright outside under the sunlight, but is it still "okay" to use, compared to the M1 is it that bad or? im sorry but its pretty hard judging only by seeing on the vid
Good question, it's hard to capture on video. I think the M2 is a bit dimmer than the M1. It's still very usable, just doesn't have that high contrast you'll find on higher-end cycling computers or even the Bryton / Shanren models we've reviewed.
Are you sure you're in the configuration sensor configuration (C2 page) and that you have a ANT speed sensor? The CYCPLUS M2 only supports ANT sensors. Also, don't forget to wake up your speed sensor by spinning the wheel and ensuring the battery is not dead.
I like your overall review format, thank you!. I just had this unit for about a 2 weeks. I really liked the round design and it seemed great as an affordable but unique-ish computer, however, I faced serious accuracy issues! Each day I made my known 5 mile trek to work, Id have at least one freeze of speedometer, for anywhere from 10 to 60+ sec. Every time there was a freeze, it was on the higher speed end (so I was going 20 but slowed to stop, but speedometer still showed 20) and I always had a correspondingly higher than actual distance, it was usually reporting 7 mi distance on a 5 mi journey, and I had a wide open sky in the US...
This saddened me so I returned it. If they fixed this issue, or if it wasnt as huge, then Id keep it, but its been out awhile now and I just had it and had latest fw so its unlikely they'll fix this?
Take note that I had nothing linked to it, so a cadence or speed sensor may alleviate this, as TSC didnt seem to have any issues?!
You could rest your beer on it at the end of your ride
Thanks very helpful, I would just add the time option is to select plus or minus hours of GMT dependent on where you live, you are not setting the time as such.
Update: With firmware version 1.33 you can now set the odometer. It's C8 in the settings section.
Thanks for the update! Being able to set the odometer seems like a simple task, I'm not sure why they forgot it in the earlier software versions.
8:19 - that's a lot of plaster cast on that person 😮
Great catch, the woman on the bench seems to be in a full upper body cast.
I am an enormous fan of your channel, and can't wait to give thumb ups each review. Want to say where I'm coming from regarding something. I love the Chinese people and they have a great history of a highly refined and great culture. What they produce is great generally. I've been a vocal proponent of Taiwan since I was a boy when I looked at Chaing Kai-shek as a hero. However, the CCP is hell-bent on global domination, and they have little compassion on whoever stands in their way. Therefore, I go to great lengths at times to avoid products made in China. For instance, I use my Korean phone as a GPS and made my own thingamajig to mount it on my handlebars. I'd rather have a country than a bargain. Let's all practice a little pocketbook patriotism and support the home team whenever we can. Thanks and all the best.
Sadly that's true. There was a comment going around something like "Buy a Chinese car" you've just bought an RPG. Some truth in that as many large companies care CCP part owned and tax on goods sold are going towards military expansion. It's tough because tee like affordable products.
Great review
How well does the backlight perform?
Can you run the backlight continuously?
Great video!
The CYCPLUS M2 has a manual backlight (the bottom right button toggles it) so you control how long it is on (it's okay in terms of brightness - good in direct sun or in the dark but dim during mixed conditions). Higher-end computers have automatic backlights that are triggered through an ambient light sensor which is easier to use. With the M2 you'll have to remember to turn the backlight off during the day to help extend the battery life.
@@TheSweetCyclists Thanks for the information my friend, I appreciate it very much!
Where is the site to look up the time zone number? I've never seen this before and a search turn up nothing.
The CYCPLUS computers use the standard GMT time zones to set the time. You can find a full map here to find the GMT offset for your location - www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
@@TheSweetCyclists Thank you. While that link didn't help I did find a video to help me figure out I lived in -7 timezone. This is new to me but I understand the simplicity. It's too bad there's not a site with a map and all the numbers to correspond to the different time zones.
Edit: After writing this I zoomed into the map at the link you provided and did see the numbers at the bottom of the map. I found this link earlier but again, didn't see it had the numbers for each time zone. Maybe this will help another goofy person who missed it the first and second time (pun intended).
@@SW-Video I was going to say - that link is a map with numbers. You also always google your location and find out GMT offset. Higher-end GPS computers have simpler interfaces or use the app to sync the time zone automatically so you normally don't have to worry about this step.
For an MTB rider (Single Track). What brand of cadence sensor do you recommend?
Also, what power sensor do you recommend?
Love your videos💪. Very detailed and fun to watch 😁
Nearly all cadence sensors are the same - you can mix and match from different brands and it should all work. I'd recommend just re-using the ones you already own or pick up a matching CYCPLUS one since they are cheap.
@@TheSweetCyclists Thanks so much buddy. You oh are awesome 💪
So speed sensor is bought separately ? Which one should work best with this one?
CYCPLUS does offer bundles with some of their GPS computers. These days you can use any speed / heart rate / cadence sensor with nearly any GPS so I would just shop around for what is available and affordable. There are some combo cadence / speed sensor (magnet on crank / rear wheel and single receiver) that are convenient for getting both data points together.
Hi, great video & thank you for taking time out to make it.
I have the M1 computer that i am using on my Motorcycle, the computer works really well and i am very happy with it.
As my Motorcycle speedo reads in KMH i needed something to show my speed in MPH to stop me getting caught out by speed cameras & mr plod.
Can you please tell me how accurate the M1 computer is? because by my bad mathes the M1 is on average 4 MPH faster than my motorcycle speedo.
Any help would be great and save me from getting a speeding ticket ; )
No problem. As far as accuracy, that would be hard to quantify without using a calibrated device. Comparing it directly to your motorcycle's speedo can be tricky and your speedo will also be slightly inaccurate. If you have any speed display signs on the road you could compare the GPS / speedo to that at different speeds.
@@TheSweetCyclists thank you very much for your great advice, I will try that out for sure.
All the best.
Does anybody know how to change the distance metric from ft to miles?
This M2 version can track indoor training? I remember "xoss like" gps having indoor problems even with cadence and speed sensors
Does this use a GPS for speed and odometer what do you need that sensor speed for the wheel
Most GPS computers like this use the built in GPS for speed / distance. For more accuracy (it also works in tunnels / cities where GPS can cut out) you can use a speed sensor + the correct wheel circumference to compute speed / distance.
Is it possible to connect m2 to shimano di2 to change pages from handlebar?
I'm not aware of that feature for the CYCPLUS computers.
Hi, this m2 had GPS sensor for speed? I also saw got sell option for sensor cadence and speed sensor. Just to check why need 2 speed sensor? Or is it local speed sensor is better then GPS speed sensor?
Most GPS computers allow you to connect to speed sensors. They can be more accurate and you don't have to worry about GPS cutouts (tunnels / dense forests). Unless you have a lot of GPS issues or want to see your wheel speed on a trainer you don't need it.
@@TheSweetCyclists thanks. I am considering this m2 or xoss g plus… which is better? Got reviews?
How to set the current time what is about r=the zone?? i don`t get it... can you help?
I think you're asking about the C4 Time Zone setting? That's the time relative to UTC. You can find out what your offset is using a map like - www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
I am UTC as in UK but when I have it set to 00:00 it is 18 mins slow. So I set it to 00:15 and it is still 4 mins slow I don’t understand
The problem With USB type charging is the product end up in the bin once the connection fails. I've just binned a working igpsport 618 as it can't charge after only a couple of years of use. I have an old cateye with a dedicated cradle connection to USB charger that's still going strong after 7 years. I'd consider this product it looks good but the USB phone charging design is putting me off
Good point. The charging port for any product can be it's weak point, you can't really keep using it if it fails. Personally we haven't had a USB port failure on GPS computer, only a taillight which was charged quite often though.
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You don’t have to guess. The manual explains what the buttons do. It’s still clugy though.
It takes some time to get used to the "save ride" button sequence, most GPS computers have more intuitive ways to stop and save a ride. That said, the M2 is still one of the more unique looking computers on the market.
It's could reach and read the cat eye speed censor bro?
Yes. Most cycling computers are compatible with most modern speed / cadence sensors. You don't have to buy CYCPLUS specific sensors as long as your sensors have the ANT+ / Bluetooth connectivity which they usually do.
Thankyou for your info bro...
Looking for a "budget" computer for checking heart rate during mtb rides. Would this suffice would you say?
Does the light stay on or do you have to keep turning it on every few minutes?
It's a manual back light so it will stay on. It isn't a particularly bright backlight though, so it is difficult to tell whether it is on or off in the sun.
Can it measure and display speeds above 100kmh
That's an interesting question - I haven't taken it that fast to see if there is a 3rd digit display. I suspect it is probably limited to 2 digits (99 km/h).
it goes to 99.9 ... doesn't matter if it's mph or kph
good on a motorcycle
Does this have an auto pause and resume?
Good question. I don't believe so. Also note that the "save ride" button is not the same as start / pause recording - you have to hold the lap button down which is easy to forget.
Yes it’s configured in the mobile app.
The weak point is the micro switches in the buttons, mine stopped working after less than a year. The aliexpess seller, the official Cycplus store, does not respect the guarantee and offers a refund of 5 USD
Sorry to hear that. The CYCPLUS should have a 1 year warranty, I would try their support email / social media contacts to get someone to help you. It's really not an expensive computer so even a free replacement would be better than negative publicity.
The display is not that bright outside under the sunlight, but is it still "okay" to use, compared to the M1 is it that bad or? im sorry but its pretty hard judging only by seeing on the vid
Good question, it's hard to capture on video. I think the M2 is a bit dimmer than the M1. It's still very usable, just doesn't have that high contrast you'll find on higher-end cycling computers or even the Bryton / Shanren models we've reviewed.
@@TheSweetCyclists thx a lot for the answer, it really helps me out
After discharge does it store you odo KM? Or it will be wiped out?
No, it should retain the odometer data even if you fully discharge it. A majority of computers have internal memory so they'll retain the data.
It wont connect to a speed sensor no matter what I try. It connects to the iphone app no worries
Are you sure you're in the configuration sensor configuration (C2 page) and that you have a ANT speed sensor? The CYCPLUS M2 only supports ANT sensors. Also, don't forget to wake up your speed sensor by spinning the wheel and ensuring the battery is not dead.
This just does not make sense, unless you really want round computer.. Sigma ROX 4.0 is so much better for the same price.
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