I got a AA 25 weapon speed 15 reload as a regular drop from dangerous pasttimes early in the patch and I made a shotgun build for it now and its loads of fun
I like shotguns but for outdoor VATs engagements (so most of the game) they really struggle. VATs accuracy is greatly based on the weapons range, aka the lower the weapons range the frustrating it is in VATs. Being able to rapidly chain headshots on waves of incoming enemies is pretty important for a weapon being a viable daily driver. I found myself having to basically run straight up to enemies in order to utilize VATs and then asking myself why I wasn’t just running melee instead 🤣
It's all preference imo, I don't think your wrong but sometimes with shotguns aiming for the bodyshots in vats is weirdly better especially with gauss.
I've been using the same Gauss shotgun i got a month after Wastelanders came out - AA 50VC is all you'll ever need. It can two shot almost everything bigger than a super mutie on a full health build
Should be fun with the Cold Shoulder shotty ! The Gauss shotty is cool, but honestly.. might as well use the Gauss rifle, the mechanism is exactly the same.. but with much better range. So, there's that..
I've been using the cold shoulder since it was first added as my main weapon, and it's been obliterating everything with ease so I never even knew shotguns were even in need of a buff.
@@maxhaly1612 If you want silent but deadly reroll a kabloom. They are buffing poison damage it sounds like and i think tbe last update improved them. I have vampire explosive and Vats hit chance vampire kablooms for close range so i dont damage myself. Explosive vampire splashes everything with poison and heals me from a distance
@@DadPlaysStuffWith the cold shoulder, I could fire in the queen's direction out of vats and get her to land with 1 dmg from very far away. I see that no longer works.
I love the Gauss SG. Thanks for giving it some love. I have six on my weapon wheel. It's my fave weapon and build by a good margin. Just rolled an AA50vhc after watching the vid. With the Refined Receiver and Short Scope accuracy is noticeably if not significantly improved over my other Gauss shottys. All of which are 50crit variants with Prime Receiver. I really don't NEED the Prime Receiver on any but an AA for the SBQ, though. So maybe I'll roll some more 50vhc variants, slap a Refined Receiver on 'em, and mix it up a bit? Heck might try it with my Q and B 50crit, anyway. Anyway this thing is big FUN. I use it for everything...and I mean EVERYTHING. Except Tea Time and stuff like that. And very close quarters because I'll kill myself. Ha. But otherwise? Its AMAZING. I feel bad for those spoiled by its previous outrageous range. This weapon as of today has incredible range. Especially for a shotgun! It biggest issue is its VATs accuracy imo. Hopefully it can be addressed. And its glitched in first person with the "stuck bug." So I use it in 3rd person. Its easy to get used to. Grest, FUN weapon.
Well going to tell you, you're going to put them back again after the legendary update goes live. Gauss Shotguns got neutered with the change to legendary effects and all effects are now being calculated when fired, not when projectiles hit.
@@DadPlaysStuff It's a planned change so going to warn you now. Gauss Shotty damage on my character with shotgunner, science and demo perks when from around 650 to 280. So just informing you now. The Gauss is getting a heavy hit. Also any affect or perk that benefited from multi-hit now is also changing to be on fire, so enforcer perk is also taking a severe blow.
@@DadPlaysStuff The explosion damage of the Gauss shotgun has been greatly weakened in PTS. It only displays 1~3 on my screen. You need to spend more ammunition to kill a level 100 super mutant.
@@mehtarelingolien Im not sure if I use wrong build or something but Cold Shoulder feels like the only usable shotgun for me. Gauss is so weak in my hands it hurts to use it
"We have also improved how we calculate the falloff for weapon damage at range. We expect this to smooth out the falloff damage for weapons that historically lost most of their damage right away. All ranged weapons benefit from this, but it should be most visible with Shotguns and Pipe Guns, as well as when fighting larger creatures such as Deathclaws."
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I got a AA 25 weapon speed 15 reload as a regular drop from dangerous pasttimes early in the patch and I made a shotgun build for it now and its loads of fun
I like shotguns but for outdoor VATs engagements (so most of the game) they really struggle. VATs accuracy is greatly based on the weapons range, aka the lower the weapons range the frustrating it is in VATs. Being able to rapidly chain headshots on waves of incoming enemies is pretty important for a weapon being a viable daily driver. I found myself having to basically run straight up to enemies in order to utilize VATs and then asking myself why I wasn’t just running melee instead 🤣
It's all preference imo, I don't think your wrong but sometimes with shotguns aiming for the bodyshots in vats is weirdly better especially with gauss.
I've been using the same Gauss shotgun i got a month after Wastelanders came out - AA 50VC is all you'll ever need. It can two shot almost everything bigger than a super mutie on a full health build
Should be fun with the Cold Shoulder shotty ! The Gauss shotty is cool, but honestly.. might as well use the Gauss rifle, the mechanism is exactly the same.. but with much better range. So, there's that..
Not exactly the gauss shotty I'd actually more usable without charging weirdly.
I've been using the cold shoulder since it was first added as my main weapon, and it's been obliterating everything with ease so I never even knew shotguns were even in need of a buff.
@@maxhaly1612 If you want silent but deadly reroll a kabloom. They are buffing poison damage it sounds like and i think tbe last update improved them. I have vampire explosive and Vats hit chance vampire kablooms for close range so i dont damage myself. Explosive vampire splashes everything with poison and heals me from a distance
Cold shoulder is an outlier in the shotgun archetype but ...even then its dmg drop off at distance was still crap
My memories of the Ka-Bloom were of it doing almost as much damage to me as it did to enemies
@@DadPlaysStuffWith the cold shoulder, I could fire in the queen's direction out of vats and get her to land with 1 dmg from very far away. I see that no longer works.
In what way doesn't it work? She doesn't land you don't do damage ooor?
I love the Gauss SG. Thanks for giving it some love. I have six on my weapon wheel. It's my fave weapon and build by a good margin. Just rolled an AA50vhc after watching the vid. With the Refined Receiver and Short Scope accuracy is noticeably if not significantly improved over my other Gauss shottys. All of which are 50crit variants with Prime Receiver. I really don't NEED the Prime Receiver on any but an AA for the SBQ, though. So maybe I'll roll some more 50vhc variants, slap a Refined Receiver on 'em, and mix it up a bit? Heck might try it with my Q and B 50crit, anyway. Anyway this thing is big FUN. I use it for everything...and I mean EVERYTHING. Except Tea Time and stuff like that. And very close quarters because I'll kill myself. Ha. But otherwise? Its AMAZING. I feel bad for those spoiled by its previous outrageous range. This weapon as of today has incredible range. Especially for a shotgun! It biggest issue is its VATs accuracy imo. Hopefully it can be addressed. And its glitched in first person with the "stuck bug." So I use it in 3rd person. Its easy to get used to. Grest, FUN weapon.
I try and give everything ❤️
When did the buff happen ? How recent we talking about ?
Skyline they increased the viable range of shotguns from being non existent to significant
Unfortunately Gauss shotgun is still very much glitched, which is really infuriating as Gauss shotgun main
If they didnt restore the range....meh. my vampire kabloom is all I need.
you can reroll the kabloom?
@@TheBuildMiner210 You sure can!!!
What??? I need to do this.
@@bigimportantman1544 Yes you do!!!!!
They nerfed vamp. It doesnt stack anymore
See i'm finding the range lower than before! I need to unlock the gauss on my shotgunner character though and give it a try.
really need to pull some of my old godrolls out and play with them now that they aren't crap again...
well may be time to make some new ones , I can remember when they got nerfed awhile back and figured it was not worth using them much anymore
Well going to tell you, you're going to put them back again after the legendary update goes live. Gauss Shotguns got neutered with the change to legendary effects and all effects are now being calculated when fired, not when projectiles hit.
We shall see the pts =/= what goes live.
@@DadPlaysStuff It's a planned change so going to warn you now. Gauss Shotty damage on my character with shotgunner, science and demo perks when from around 650 to 280. So just informing you now. The Gauss is getting a heavy hit. Also any affect or perk that benefited from multi-hit now is also changing to be on fire, so enforcer perk is also taking a severe blow.
@@DadPlaysStuff The explosion damage of the Gauss shotgun has been greatly weakened in PTS. It only displays 1~3 on my screen. You need to spend more ammunition to kill a level 100 super mutant.
Found a Q2525 combat shotty for 150 caps yesterday in someone’s vendor. Unless they buff the damage I probably won’t use it.
You really want AA or bloodied on the combat shotgun. Quad is kinda useless on it
Just got a Bloody FFR +1 Perception one drop at a Fasnacht parade, is it any good ?
Ffr is actually not bad at all shame about the 1 p but still great
Ffr is actually not bad at all shame about the 1 p but still great
I see you gave me a double barrel reply 😉😂😂😂
No clue why rofl xD
Shotguns are back?.... Time to re roll some Kablooms an Pepper Shakers
100% the damage drop off they had is gone, I can't say they are as strong as they were 3 years ago but they are very viable again.
Cold Shoulder is much better, IMO.
@@mehtarelingolien Im not sure if I use wrong build or something but Cold Shoulder feels like the only usable shotgun for me. Gauss is so weak in my hands it hurts to use it
Saw that quad got nerfed in the pts😢
What shotgun buff? I don’t see it in the patch notes so wdym?
"We have also improved how we calculate the falloff for weapon damage at range. We expect this to smooth out the falloff damage for weapons that historically lost most of their damage right away. All ranged weapons benefit from this, but it should be most visible with Shotguns and Pipe Guns, as well as when fighting larger creatures such as Deathclaws."
And now they're being nerfed into the ground again on the PTS lol
looks like someone abused the pickaxe glitch.
To paraphrase fat tony "what's a pickaxe?"
is that outro ai lol?
Yup
Is that some kind of mod screen? not how my screen looks in crafting
Nope that's the crafting screen for gauss shotguns.
@@JackSteel1965 that’s how it looks when it’s legendary crafting.