Why we don't support Imran Khan - Syed Muzammil Shah -
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- Syed Muzammil Shah is a political scientist, youtuber and tv anchor with an interest in politics, philosophy and science.
Muzammil comes back on the podcast to discuss the current political scenario, why we don't support Imran Khan, rising fascism in Pakistan, and why this could be very dangerous.
Why is Imran Khan a ladla?
Why do women support Imran Khan?
Are Khan's politics popular or populist?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
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Chapters:
0:00 Echo Chambers and Urbanized Thinking
3:30 Why is Imran Khan ladla and other people can't criticize?
10:00 Personal attacks and being called biased
17:00 Anti-Establishment Politics, Facism and Populism
23:00 Anti-Americanism
32:30 Imran Khan Supporters
38:00 Women supporters of Imran Khan
43:00 PTI's Corruption Narrative
52:00 Handsome and Strong Man politics
58:00 Use of Religion
1:05:00 Peoples Questions - บันเทิง
“Women with low self esteem fall in love in bad boys” - Tracy McMillan
That's what it looks from the surface
There acting
Didn't even realize it was an hour and 40-minute-long video. Very enjoyable and thought-provoking discussion. The highlight was Shehazad impersonating Muzammil, simply loved it 😂
I stopped supporting Imran khan PTI long time a go. At beginning he was very convincing people to give him a chance now he is very different person he is up to no good. He have alot of Narcissistic traits to be spot. He think very high of himself. I like to watch Journalist like Syed Muzammil.
@@durranaybachey4555 hahahahahahahahh."He has a lot of Narcissistic traits" so thn enjoy that a GOVERNMENT went to LONDON for suggestions what a SHAMELESS people you guyz are
Have you seen this happening in any worst African countries???
You're not even a Muslim, don't comment here . Go to kitchen
@@durranaybachey4555 syed should become PM and hire Pakistani intellects
thank you gentlemen for this. s.m.s is a very clear headed and articulate speaker and its a privilege to imbibe from his knowledge and grey matter 🧠
I'm cursing my self for wasting my time on diff podcasts and my unawareness about your channel. You ghys are doing great job. ❤️
You guys are doing great work . It’s unfortunate that the space for healthy debate is shrinking in society day by day. On a lighter note , not all overseas Pakistanis are blind IK supporters :)
People have to be totally retarded to support Imran's anti-west narrative when millions of Pakistanis live in western countries and they are our biggest export partners.
In my family of 5, 3 are IK supporters. One is Neutral lol and I’m against PTI for all the same reasons as the speakers on this Podcast. Imran Khan has a huge brainwashed, fanatical following among uk Pakistanis. There is absolutely no reasoning with them. He’s beyond reproach and everything is an amreeki saazish against him, and even the break up of his marriage with Jamima Goldsmith is blamed on Nawaz Sharif, because heaven forbid any woman in her right mind would never think of leaving mr golden balls unless there was a nefarious agency behind the scenes pulling the strings and making her divorce him.
My septuagenarian youthia parents will not be reasoned out of their immovable belief that IK is not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.
Sab ka sabi naalayak leader log pydha huva Pakistan mei
It will get better
P
I am an Ahmadi and your comments hit home. We are 1% or less than 1% of the total population of Pakistan and yet they consider it their biggest achievement to break our backs 😂 The country is about to default and they are still obsessed with the religion card.
Ahmadi jammat ki leadership same as zardari , nawaz , all have personal motives against Pakistan.
@@fredikoli5314 Show me proof.
Do you know who got the first noble prize for pakistan? Who set up Suparco? And who set the base of pakistan’s nuclear program? An ahmadi
@@ahmedmukhtar6961 I didn't say ahmadis aren't educated or patriotic , I said the leadership , it's just another feudal dynasty
@@fredikoli5314 again, show you me a proof or a document?
@@ahmedmukhtar6961 how many non Pakistani ahmadis do you have , millions , who is at the helm of the "caliph" throne , one house hold that was granted a jagir by mughal kings , then helped by Sikhs, then British, ... This is the leadership , it's a feudal dynasty everything else is just propaganda to retain their throne. Reason they were banned constitutionaly because they wouldn't compromise on what prophethood means , which means either the constitution of Pakistan gives them the helm or kicks them out , you can't have a state within a state. Everything is political. If they had retracted their prophethood claim, they could retain land and continue like so many other dynasties. It's nothing to do with religion it's old school land politics of the sub continent. To this end they are willing to bow to British imperial interests as well as garner israeli support. In ka ab Islam main kya kaam hai ?
You both are doing God's work. We really need a regular podcast where people can discuss political and social issues which is not a shouting match. Keep it up.
@@DWAGON1818 That's way better. We need more of this satanic work.
When will you people stop involving god in everything? God is a divine being. Don't involve him in Pakistan's politics and in discussion.
And how brave are these young people of Pakistan....more and more people.should be supporting such vehement speakers
God’s work- you need to educate yourself first before commenting here.
@@preethamkumar125 why does that offend you Preetham?
Your last concluding sentence was very true. There was a feeling that this podcast could / should continue for more hours.
The one reason I can give you for doing this regularly even if you keep talking about the same things is the same reason why IK does it, it sticks with people.
His dodgy narrative needs a rebuttal and consistently so looking forward to another podcast with the great Muzammil.
As an Indian who has traveled to East Asia, It just makes me feel so sad looking at the current economic state of South Asia. Please let religion be a personal thing, concentrate on science & technology.
*stupid generalization as a indian.*
alhamdulillah we (INDIAN ) will take over your country (PAKISTAN)don't worry sir
@@YuvaKishore242 , then, Please come up with your brilliant intellect.
india gdp is better than south east asia
@@gauravlingwal4601 hahaha RIP education
I really with my heart enjoyed this beautiful conversation. Hats off to both of you
Lovely guest and host. One of the few voices/podcast which are very rational. I hope more people listen to you. Love From India.
1:27:00 Muzzamil was so right. Courage has done more great things than charity. not your sympathy but your bravery has saved the unfortunate.
hahahhahhaahahaha Phle chawaanni rupiya kamalo us k baap ye baate suit krti hn
this muzammil of yours is an extremely biased analyst. I didnt want to comment on this idiot but I would say this that no one cares what these American puppets think of Khan .When prices were going high in Khan's reign they used to bark all time. Now i think someone has put tape on these puppets' mouths.
Pakistan needs more intelligent people like him
Thank you 😊 💓
Agar meri board exams main km marks aagye so The Pakistan Experience and Shahzad will be responsible for it.😑😁
Muzzamil kahengy beta parhlo pehly😂
@@Farwaaliart aisy hot topics discuss kreinge to khaak phr lenge😑🥴
Literally mera bhi 11th June ko 12th ka board exam ha lekin mein to yahan podcast sun raha hun 😂😂✌️
Was eagerly waiting for this
Sir!! Welcome back both of you!
Great pod
Thank you!! Finally almost two hours of muzammil!! He only posts 15 minutes videos on his chanel once a year so this is a real treat.
Even these days, behind the scene are those forces which have been at the helm of affairs all the time, in political history of Pakistan. You are doing a good job of reminding people of military nurtured fascist political parties, because public memory is too short. The present day politics is just a repetation of history. We are where we were 40 years ago.
Deeply absorbing analyses. Look forward to Muzammil's entry weekly for mind prodding of the slumbering and snoring millions :(
Analysis is impressive and backed with contemporary social social science plus political history. Strategic depth has been achieved !
"Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media far more, for they will destroy your honour." - General Vo Nguyen GIAP
Very rightly said
sir book name nai samaj aya please koi friend
books name bata de jo last mai 2 books recomend ki hai
Something to nurture your brain.
Every word ✨ teaches you something
Though provoking
Mind changing ✨
That flip was great. Shehzad you should do Muzammil's impression more often.
CAREFUL GUYS ! We love you both !
Syed Muzzamil is a great guy and someone I’d be good friends with and Shehzad is like me , happy go lucky and he’s from Karachi while I’m from Mumbai !
I wish you guys well and your country better days ! I think like you both said , if we start with the truth , reconciliation is not far behind !
🙏🏽 but seriously , take care guys . Namaste and Salams
Thank you for this analysis. I am really trying to learn more about the Pakistani political system and listening to you both is really helpful in this regard. Your notions of strong, beautiful and English speaking men inspiring respect from the middle classes in Pakistan rings true. Everyone in Pakistan hates the Brits and Americans but they still want to be able to talk to them! Imran Khan is massively revered by Pakistanis of my parent's age, so people in their 70s, they have brainwashed their children (my mother used to say, yeh app kay mamoon hain when we were children) that generation has bought up the young people running about after PTI now. Never elect Cricketers, footballers, actors or reality tv businessmen! Their egos will for sure be bigger than their zahaanat. You are right, Imran Khan is a brand and knows how to manipulate an already susceptible public. This is how the Brexit debate was won, appealing to emotions, rule Britania, national pride, we can go it alone Bakwaas. Europe sub evil ka baais hai! It was like the turkeys voting for Christmas because those who will suffer the most from Brexit are the ones who voted for it.
The most offensive thing I have heard from PTI supporters is the notion of Imran Khan being at the level of naboota! Astakhfirulla!! Yeh human tou is age kay human's me bhi elevated nahi socha ja sak ta. Aap iss bunday ko oon hustion kay saath compare karein hain jin ki lives Allah kay peghaaim per based theein appey promotion aur khudparusti pe nahi!!
Stay away from politics, no good will come of it. You are both doing more good doing what you are doing. I appreciate your bravery and talents. Keep going! You have support from outside and inside Pakistan!
ka kar is ka channel , yeh liberal hai is ka islam se kya wasta , is k comment mein hamaray nabi SAW ki gustakhi ki jati hai or hindu bhi is k views ko support kartay hay
@@user-ee1rs8ed2x yes coz mostly Hindus liberal hi hote hai. Or liberal hona is not anti religious. Liberal me sabko rights, equality, education, development, free speech ki baat hoti hai.
@@bhavikmahanot2768 hindus are not secular due to secularism hindus are angry and want hindustan to become hindu state
Wowed, you both are literally up there, on my list of people I can listen to for hours altogether
Due to internet disruption I didn't hear the name of book. Please someone help me to find out the name of the book which muzammil mentioned?
Community which is hostage to believing that Yazid , Mawia , M BinQasim and Khalid Bin Waleed are their heroes and not taking a lesson form their history of”faith” deserves neutrals who continues to destabilize Pakistan, living abroad and at 60 I now have come to accept that we will never see a stable Pakistan, my first time listening to you both ! Must say you made me think differently.
Majority of them are staunch believers in Banu Ummayad's school of thought which has been rebranded as Islam
Baat tou such hai but baat hai ruswae ki.
aoa! could you please share a link to the article mentioned in the women section?
muzamil shah is my favourite in pakistan
love from delhi
Abhi sun’ni shuru he ki hai magar like pehle he thok dia hai
Aisa pyaar hai kuch tumhaari podcasts se ❤️❤️
Jis din loog app dono ki videos dekhna shuru karde, tu Pakistan develop karna shuru hogai ga.
What a critical argument
Appreciate your content ✌
Which book did he recommend at 33.16?
Thank you to both of you
What is the name of book he mentioned?
you both are my fvrt , and thnx for including my sawal
What is the book name muzamil was talking about @ 33:25 ?
the origins of totalitarianism by hannah arendt
What books n authors he mentioned???
Shahzad bhai book ka name kya bataya Muzamil bhai ne 33 minutes ??
The analysis is impressive !
An excellent post.
Rightly said about present political situation, hopefully, IK will learn politics rather impose fascism
00:33 would you please ask him the name of the book and the writer again!
Edit: got it..
Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt
23:52 whose portrait is there on wall , to the north-east of Richard Dawkins, i can't identify that guy in the middle?
Courageous lads! Pls do take care folks!
Two favourites...
Loved this discussion..
Nice hair cut shehzad...
@@ThePakistanExperience watched this episode in breaks..
Ofcourse being a female, its really shocking to see women supporting IK..
Good point highlighted by syed muzzamil.. similarly i always think how a man like syed muzzamilz inspiration is fredrik neichze who has said so much weird things about female..
Some defend him and say that his writing is misinterpreted.. .. but his words are not easy to sink in..
This is just my point of view because only few people are my inspiration in terms of their narratives on different issues and undoubtedly syed muzzamil is one of them ..
You answered me of this question before so it was a random thinking jo k aa gae again sabb sun k 🙄🧐
Thank you ! For opening this ex Imran khan supporter eyes also please keep building your platform Pakistan needs this.
Wishes you the Best for ENLIGHTENING the people and different communities
Would love to see you both doing a podcast from same space . That energy will be unmatchable
Really enjoyed this podcast, hosted by my two favourite Pakistani social/political commentators. Not that I have much hope in convincing them, but I will still be sharing with my geriatric youthia parents.
Great book recommendation from Muzamil Sayed. I would like to add a few more to this list.
- 1984 and Animal Farm
By George Orwell
- The Handmaids Tale
by Margaret Atwel
- Sapiens (a brief history of Humankind)
By Yuval Noah Harai
Sapiens a great history book and the farm too is like pak oriented everything book.
But main reason i am here is just to tell you that i cant recommend even this video to my elder youthya brother.
I am suppter of pti but u are telling the truth and facts appreciated 👏👏
1:13:18 this is the funniest shit i've seen today. on point🤣🤣
Hilarious 😂
Can u please tell me the book which muzamil has suggested the origin of brutalism as I can’t find it ?
2 geniuses in one frame. My favs 🙌❤
if these brainless morons are geniuses PAKISTAN ka Allah hi malik h hahaahahahahahhhahahah
These are those people who will do anything for views. Kehte hain ke imran pakistan ke 3 tukre karega jo ke nahi hai, pehle ja kar sami Ibrahim ka interview dekho. Phir pata chalega ke ye do chutiye in a nutshell hain.
Can someone tell me the name of book written by Anna something that Muzamil suggested?
Origins of totalitarianism by Hannah arendt
Edhi recognised IK for what he is when he was approached by IK and General Hamid Gul and he snubbed them off going into temporary exile to London.
Which book he is talking about at 33 min
Young Men go ahead with ur line of thinking and press it honestly boldly consistently to have the Pakistan of proud nation hats off to you men
"It is his life or his revenge. There is no third choice" - Nikita Khrushchev. 1953 General Secretary CPSU and later Soviet Premier.
Respect for your work 👍Syed Muzzamil 👍
Ghias is never Bias !! I love his monologues
Good to hear you guys
Just the kind of podcast that I needed to hear! Thanks Shehzad. I disagree with Muzammil on the concept of free will being determined by a pre-determined set of personality traits and thinking patterns although I do believe in generational trauma being passed down and making us more susceptible to certain triggers etc. However, other than that, I'm a big fan!
The illusion of freewill
Supporting Imran Khan is supporting Pakistan
As long as someone is good for country we support him
The quality of audio in between especially when Muzammil spoke on some of the vital issues deteriorates. Please take care if something wrong is done at TH-cam level. Please check and listen after uploading the post.
I'm literally surprised, shocked that peoples like you are even exit in Pakistan. God blessed 🙏🇮🇳💪🚩
i'm literally surprised about your literal surprise - the fact that you're watching this channel and still make a ridiculous generalization - effing ch----a
So now you know people like these exist in Pakistan even if you are shocked. Now go and get rid of Modi.
@@bilalminto9199 Modi is better for us than Imraand lol!
@@bilalminto9199 Modi is more liberal than you can even think of. He has revolutionalised India completely.
@@bhavikmahanot2768 modiji want India to industrialize
He is like Young version of Hassan nisar always spreading pessimism and negativity ... Everyone criticize Imran Khan but I bet they won't even stay one day in PM office .... Running a country is not child's play .. if you really want to change Pakistan , go take part in election and change it. I hope muzamil your mind find peace .
33.40 pr jis book ka name liya wo clear nahi tha someone please clear it.
The origins of totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt.
May you both stay safe and brave as you have always been.
im very grateful to you guys for speaking up on this matter
Majjaaa ayaa 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Very informative ❤️
One question do you think islam should be reformed
Sincerely from a muslim
When Busters Douglas did biggest upset in sports history by beating MIKE TYSON, he said that formula to beat Tyson is " Don't be afraid of him and keep on tapping on him and he will be on his ass on ground".
Same is the blueprint to eradicate charm of Imran khan. Keep on arguing against him on social media and in public and you will see results inshallah. Do not lose heart. Pakistanis are very dynamic in changing their views about someone.
Gigolo is the best word I can find for Imran Khan.
I m a rational qualified CA. Owner of self made 3 enterprises employing atleast 100 well qualified Pakistani. At the age of 42 this is what I can understand.
Fabulous!
Always a pleasure to listen to this man. I'm a great admirer.
I can not believe you both are pakistani??
What a healthy discuss.
Achha laga...love from india.
35:55 Very well explained and I own it.
37:30
Problems are real, solutions problematic.
1:11:11
Satiyanaas
Great analysis, thank you for all the great work 😊😊❤👏
Shehzad sb you are love shah ji ko bula k gift dy dia h!
Normally I dislike things pakistani, but coming to channels like this and listening yo sane voice helps me regain balance. I hope pakistan survives and the poor people pakustdn get their due in the world
Excellent podcast.amazing work... Felt like you guys were giving voice to my thoughts
🙌
Even 1:42:47 is short when Shah G is talking
Great job
Shehzad thanks a lot for saying all that you are saying. I however will request you to have a podcast on filmmakers n pop culture . I know these are horrible times but the only thin which is happening good is in terms of pop culture. Please have a podcast with Saim, Asim abbasi and Sarmad Khoosat again. I want to talk about joyland n Kamliii. Politics se Buhat Dil thuk guya hai.....
Dear Shahzad, I hope that you have not taken my previous comment with a heavy heart! It was just to let you know that your hairstyle looks a bit odd! It is said in urdu "Khao mun bhata aur pehno jag bahata". Please don't mind for my comment. You are just like my son! Let me also add here that your podcasts are extremely good. I particularly like your style of presentation. You look so humble and sincere in giving you analysis and comments. Please convey my very deep appreciation to Syed Muzamil Shah. He is such a fine learned young man. May Allah Subhanahu Tala have His blessings upon you two.
You guys are doing great job .
All overseas are not ik supporters .
We youth really in need of these healthy dubates .
33:15 which book he recommends?
the origins of totalitarianism by hannah arendt
@@jekyll7110 Thanks 👍
Muzaammil should regularly upload his vlogs.
کیا ہی مزہ آئے جب مزمل بھائی عمران یا پی ٹی آئی کے کسے بھی رہنما کا انٹرویو کرے سلامتی دعائیں دونوں کے لئیے❤️
bhai : love to see your guest today ...
Love the part where you switched roles xD , Loved it.
Man you mimicked Muzamil so well in the end
Log Thumbnail dekh kar hi bhaag jayen gy😂 Q k wo bht darty hain Khan k khilaaf suny sy.. kahin apny so called Jihad k against na sun lain...lkn phr bhi kia pata koi dekh ly share kardeti hon😅
For people asking about book that Muzamil bhai recommended. It's "The orgins of totalitarianism" by Hannah Arendt.
Great man but audio quality is too bad 😞
Great work
اللہ پاک عمران خان کو اپنی حفظ و امان میں رکھے- آمین یا رب العالمین
پاکستان کی ترقی ، خوشحالی اور بقاء کا ضامن اللہ کی مدد سے صرف اور صرف عمران خان ہے-- انشاللہ جیت حق اور سچ کی ھو گی-
Luv u Syed Muzzamil. God bless