Haha, data geek here! Although I do love data, I wish I could have seen your VERY clear & practical advice when I first began my therapeutic ketosis experiment. After testing at different times of the day,, I can confirm your recommendations. I settled on your exact suggestions (2 tests each day and the times he said)
Dover Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. It can be a bit lonely starting out a TH-cam channel but it is really encouraging to know that someone is watching and enjoying the videos!
I just discovered your channel & really appreciate your subject matter. In 2014, I lost 20 lbs in 30 days because I was focusing on eliminating all inflammation to help me get back to walking from a botched foot surgery. I didn’t know about intermittent fasting or keto back then but apparently learned it naturally as the weight dropped off from eating lots of raw vegetables and all meat was grass fed or organic & fasting from dinner till coffee the next day. Lots of water. 9 years later, my body is now post menopausal and doesn’t bounce back so 10 lbs or even 5 feels like losing 50 so here I sit. Watching you ❤
I am a avid cyclist on keto for 4 months. Today I measured before a 50 mile 3 hour ride =92/.7 and then a few hours after = 65 / 1.5. Seems a very positive result.
Thank you for the information. I tested my ketone level each morning roughly 2 hours after waking up. However, I tested daily during my first 60 days. Test strips being expensive, I used my testing together with my journal to correlate how I felt, what I ate and what physical activity I did in relation to my ketone level. My goal was to learn how it felt to be really in ketosis. And I did loose weight. Now, I do not test very often. Mostly, I test to check if my gut or intuition is correct. I will make a guess at my ketone level, then test to see how close I am. I do this a few times a week or less.
Thankyou Dan, I have been burning through my strips, testing several times a day and when my results were bad I would test even more often so that I could see the numbers get better. Now I will only test once a day before my meal.
I just bought a blood ketone meter and this video was so helpful! I didn’t know if you were supposed to check ketones like you check blood glucose levels, when, how often, etc... As an RN I’ve only ever checked people’s blood glucose levels. Ketone levels and the normal ranges are a whole new thing for me. Love your channel. So glad I found it!! Thank you for all your valuable knowledge on the ketogenic diet!!!
Data geek here. I like to track as to understand my body and what my body wants and needs. I thought I was noticing that my ketones looked better if I tested later, but most docs say to test when testing am glucose for the most accurate information. However, your point about pre-dawn makes perfect sense. I really enjoyed this, thanks so much. Keep ‘em coming. 😀
Geek here. So incredibly helpful. Thank you so much. I just got my keto monitor and just wasn’t sure what was best. Thank you again this was extremely clear and easy to understand ❤️
Geek here also! I'm new to the Keto diet, trying to reduce my blood glucose levels. I've been doing this for about six weeks now. Lowered my A1C from 8.1 to 7.0 Just started testing my Ketone level yesterday. It was a 3.5 I'm eating as best I can a low carb diet. I've dropped my weight from + or - 154lb's to + or - 133lb's. Weight loss is not my main concern. A1C and glucose levels are and getting off my meds are #1 concern. With doctor approval I'm off two diabetes meds and B/P med. Hopefully after next A1C test in July I can reduce or eliminate last diabetes meds. Thank you Dr.Dan for your very easy to understand and informative methods.
I started keto 9 months ago and lost 60 lbs in the first 4 months and lost 90 lbs by month 6.5 but I’ve stalled (really gone up and down 10 lbs) the past almost 2 months (which I’ve had a few cheat days completely off keto and had “keto cheat days” where I went over my calories and over carbs a bit on my 1200 calorie/20 net carb goal. I honestly got comfortable with my weight and was happy but not anymore. I’m ready for the second wind! Just bought a blood ketone meter to give me that kick and I’m so excited! I used urine strips religiously for the longest time and it gave me motivation. Hoping this will too! Just need that push to not eat any keto sweets tbh lol.
I used to run in the morning I was testing ketones before run and after I came back home. I do not leave house and run right away, but I walk for around 7 minutes, run for 25-30 minutes and then walk back for around 5-6 minutes (I walk faster, as my body is already in higher performance state) It my ketone level fall, if liver stays absolutely fine, but they will go up if I get pain because of overworked liver due to ketone production for physical activity) Test yourself. Run long enough to trigger sharp pain in liver. It does need to be very painful, just sharp. When you get this you should gradually slow down and get rest of at least just walk. It will pass and it is perfectly fine. It is just signal that liver is working harder and it grows to accommodate extra body needs.
Geek!! I am not a diabetic but I have been blood testing glucose and ketones for years and I have been wearing a CGM for the last 5 months. I’m always looking for relationships between the data sets and I have often been confused and frustrated. This video is so helpful. Thank you!
Retired data geek here. I consider subscribing. You make quality videos and earning consideration from me is a lot, especially on first day. I have watching some channels for 3 years before subscribing. I have few objections here and there, but most people simply do not know this stuff anyway, so it is not your fault (faulty science forgetting facts from history). Nothing directly related to subject of your channel though.
Geek! 🙋🏾♀️ I have LITERALLY been testing at all the wrong times and I just couldn’t understand why I’m not tracing at all. Thank you so much for the info doc!
I found my results trended exactly as you noted, with an obvious impact from Dawn Effect, post workout, and post meal. Thanks for reinforcing how these can impact levels and that "testing often" isn't necessarily better.
I have been testing my ketone levels before and after (high intensity) exercise out of curiosity. So far I have noticed a very strong correlation between high ketone levels before exercise and better performance.
Definitely a data geek! I love seeing how my body responds to all sorts of food and stimuli! I'm horribly afraid of needles (yes even such a tiny thing that's not REALLY a needle) but I still check it pretty often.
Thanks so much! Haven't lost any weight beyond my week 1 loss of 3 lbs and now on week 7. Always in ketosis between .5 and 3.0 so was really hoping to find optimal times to test. This helped so much...hoping for more fat loss soon : )
This was very detailed and let me tell you, it's very valuable to know what to test, when to test and how to test. I also appreciate you sharing your schedule with testing your blood ketones. Thanks!
Paleomedicina Hungarian Doctors using the PKD to heal very severe diseases suggest go get the ketosis once a day at the end of the first meal right before the second one. That’s your best ketosis level moment. After approx 5 hrs. But they look for a deep ketosis. I prefer omad so I wait 5 hrs , before going to bed. After the sport/ activities it doesn’t make sense. Hope it helps.
Doing 18/6 on no sports day Or 21/3 fasting on sports day *Almost testing daily just before lunch Sport day around 3pm *No sport day at noon Usely i test after sports which is not ideally what you said, Start sport around 10:00 till 12:00 Sauna after that till 14:00/14:30 So im eating around 14:30 till 14:30 My average ketone lvls are 0.8 during these times and blood sugar around 4.4 And when i do prolonged fasting 2 to 4 days, my ketone lvls can go up to 4,8 Further more Doing keto diet and eat healthy oils, Making my own ghee Baking in oven my own nuts like Almond pecan walnut and cashew nuts, And ofcourse celtic salt for the minerals
You are absolutely right High ketone level does have no benefit Even worse, too high ketone levels may be a sign you are doing something wrong or going downhill I used to get even 7mmol/l ketones It wasn't my best time to be honest Now I am back around 1.5mmol/l to 4.5mmol/l Test your ketones and glucose if you get dizzy. You may see unusually high ketone levels and unusually low glucose level. You need to have both testers, perfectly as single device. Testing just ketones is less then half picture.
Hi. I’m new to keto, 1 week. I tested yesterday before dinner around 6pm and it was 1.4. This morning at 11am it was 3.8. I was 16/8 fasting. Is that level of 3.8 normal when fasting? The meter info says to stay between 1-3. I’m confused. Thanks for help
Geek. I also like to get on a diet as a hobby since 1998 :D 16-20 y.o: Calorie Deficit (3x) 21-30 y.o: Calorie Deficit (3x), South Beach (2x), Herbalife (2x) 31-40 y.o: Herbalife (1x), Post Partum catering (1x), Mayo (2x), GM (3x), Blood Type (1x), Combo Mayo+Blood Type (2x) 41-50 y.o: Combo IF+GM (1x), Intermittent Fasting (continuous).
Dr Dan This was really helpful. I will now test just before lunch and before dinner. Been stumped by the dawn effect as I would test just at get up and was extraordinarily hi ( sometimes 120) what?? but the later measurement is between 86 and 100 so it does drop. You've got incredible insight to this process especially looking at used ketones that cannot be measured. All the best keep doging those carbs
I had that dawn reading happen when I tested my BLOOD glucose, and it bothers me because my GP wants fasting blood , as usual, for a HbA1c thinking I may be heading toward pre diabetes . I am reluctant to explain to her that I get info from the internet because she is very negative about that. I'm an RN . I may look for a lot more info to do with my GP problem... 🤔I'm very impressed by Dr Maggs
I think the post meal ketone checks WOULD be pretty helpful if you’re trying to keep insulin levels low. If you eat something that causes a big drop in ketones, you can deduce that you released a bigger amount of insulin, and maybe you might not want to eat that particular food.
Data geek here! My husband says I’m obsessed! I’ve been checking my ketones as soon as I get up! Usually not high ketones or glucose levels. Like so many here, I needed to lower my A1C and I accomplished that in 6 months, from 6.4 to 5.4. I feel great! I am going through a bout of kidney stones at the moment. I doubled up on my potassium and magnesium intake and started doing 45 minute bath soaks in Epsom Salts! It’s working. Any thoughts on the increased incidence of kidney stones on the Keto Diet! Keep up the great work! I’ve been binge watching you all morning!
Turned out not to be a kidney stone, so we’re doing more tests. Looks like a cyst in the right kidney. Thanks for the advice. It definitely was not caused by the Keto Diet so that’s good to know.
Amazing video! Really clear and helpful :) yes... data geek here as well 🙌 They are $1 a piece here in Canada. Subbed and hit the bell. Looking forward to more of your content!
SUMMARY: You should avoid to test your ketones because misleading reads in the next cases: - First thing in the morning. - Directly after a meal. - After exercise. When should you test? - Before lunch or dinner.
Hi Dr. Maggs, I have enjoyed your videos just finding you today. You mentioned that the ketones don't show as high after we become keto adapted! is there a corrolation of lower ketones with the adaptation or does our body get lazy at producing them? Is there a reason to add ketone type metabolizers to our diet to produce better health, have any studies been done to that combination or to prove or disprove the merits of BHB type nutritional adds? I would love to see some kind of research that substantiates or shows to prove the lack of corrective measure if they are simply added to one's diet. I am a 70 year old learning and yes I am a geek...lol. Thanks, Dave
Thank you sir for your help on when and how often to check my BK. I've been using the keto urine strips but recently bought the MOJO meter. Very helpful info and thanks again. God bless and happy new year.
Understanding how blood sugars rise and fall during the day and how ketones only start to rise after that last meal blood sugar decline mean that it is not like taking your temperature. I've just started so I am curious to use Keytone stips to see if I am excreting Keytones or whether my body has adjusted to handling them. Once I know that the process is working I might want to monitor my data but the results speak for themselves; reduced weight levels and blood pressure readings.
Great advice and info again Dr Dan. I’m still debating testing as I’d like faster weight loss but I’m adverse to testing blood ketones, but of needle phobia!!!
Thanks! I'm not going to lie, doing a fingerprick several times a day does suck a bit, but just remember there are people who have been doing it 4 or more times a day their whole lives :)
It is not that bad, when you would get good at it and would know how to set your lancing device and get used to pricking your finger. There was a time when I was doing it even 4 times a day. Just pure curiosity and hunger for knowledge
Most of the time I'm riding the edge of ketosis. I'm not in it to lose weight, I'm 150lbs but to be fat adapted. I do check after a going for a run to confirm I'm using fat over glucose as fuel. Most of the time I can feel it, fat is the superior fuel. I also test to see the results of certain food.
Thank you from Australia for that information have been on strict diet for 1 month to stop seizures. I was at 01.5 which was low. I didnt leave the strip in for 15 sec though.
Can I measure just one time a day, at the same time each day, to see a trend over time? Do I need to measure twice in a day? I'm just trying a keto diet for the first time, after fasting for 5 days and realizing the benefits of ketosis. I don't have medical needs to test so I was wondering if it might be good enough to test just once a day.
Dan... HEEEELLLLLPPPP MEEEEEE! I lost 50lbs doing Keto two years ago... Then I put on 30lbs during lockdown... I've tried to get back into Keto but my Keto blood monitor (Keto Mojo) is mostly registering Lo and sometimes (if I'm lucky) 0.01! My blood glucose levels are mostly between 95 and 100. I tried to kick it off with a rigid 72 hour water fast plus ACV and coffee, and 5 solid gym sessions and less than 25g carbs over last 3 days, but cant get those ketones up...! I have lost about 6lbs, but think that's mostly water weight. Starting to think that during lockdown I developed a terrible case of Insulin Resistance! Is it just case of patience? Losing faith here!
My ketones are now staying between 6 and 9.5 on breath. I did blood and it was 4.0 when the breath was 7.1. tested glucose 86. So my ketones high and glucose normal. My breath was exact match with blood when they were between 2-3. but once they raised real high on breath, the blood was different. Still high but not as high.
I did a blood test for ketones just to try it out, completely random and I had a value of 4.4 mmol/L, may have been while fasting though, I'm also early in my keto diet, my body is still adapting and maybe I've used too much fat, also exercising on a daily basis. From what I've read, 4.4 mmol/L is a tad bit too high.
I hate to admit , as a retired nurse : I graze all day . Yesterday I tested neg at dawn,as you spoke about, and mod at 3pm. I don't feel like eating at dawn so should I test just before I have my first bit if food? I am finding your sites the best so far for me. Also, my GP wants to do a HbA1c but my fasting bood glucoses are higher than nonfasting. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't agree with your theory so what do I do about the her lab instruction to fast for HbA1c? It's a real worry.
Hello Dr Dan, quick question. I am doing strict carnivore diet with fat % in grams is between 50-70% daily with almost 0% carbs. It has been more than 5 weeks since I do the above. I measure my ketones levels and most of the day is less than 0.5 mmol/L but when I have a fully fat meal in some cases it can go up to 0.9 mmol/L.. I am checking my glucose level at the same time and it ranges between 4.5 to 5.4 mmol/L. How do you explain that I am not seeing higher ketones levels. Thanks in advance.
How long after exercise can you test again? I tested 2 and 4 hrs after a back-bicep workout and my levels were ZERO?? I haven't eaten a single carb since 12 days so maybe I ain't in ketose yet?
Data Geek... !! i went keto in 2016-2017 and got great results... but now, i'm having a lot of trouble getting back into it, even though i'm using the same cookie cutter approach as back in 2016. it's been 3 months since i restarted, and i haven't lost a pound. so i'm starting to measure ketones in the blood and it's showing that I'm NOT in ketosis (even though ketostix urine results are almost always positive). very frustrating, but i think that this is the type of problem that may require ketone testing to overcome.
Were can I get a Ketone Blood test meter in the UK??? I've got a Blood Glucose meter from my Doctor, as I'm Diabetic, but they won't help me get a Keytone meter, so I have to buy a one for myself, but none seem to be available from my Pharmacist... Also Test strips and Lances. Thanks.
So I just got my machine and I tested myself and I got a low reading not even numbers came out. I had ate 45 mins before. Is this something to worry about ?
Any suggestions for food I should avoid with mobility issues. Dr. recommended Low Fob diet. I can't do that diet. I love Keto. its they only way of eating that has worked for me.
Question: which blood meter available in UK would you recommend? I want to give Keto diet a try for 3 months but also need to monitor for ketones as I am want to make sure I am in Ketosis and see what my performance on weekend club bike rides is like if doing Keto proper, rather than borderline and be in no mans land. I am 4 weeks down already and doing well. Urine strips so far ok but I know this will change.
We use the Abbott Freestyle Optium Neo, which accepts their glucose test strips as well as the ketone strips. The glucose strips are much less expensive, and I now tend to only check my ketone levels only when my glucose level is 4mmol/L or less. A low glucose ketone index allows an estimate of a low insulin level, and that is the object of the whole exercise. The difficulty is that measuring insulin levels directly is much more difficult and expensive. Patients with a diagnosis of cancer should be trying to achieve a glucose/ketone ratio of 1, which is likely to interfere with the metabolism of the cancer cells, which generally rely on fermentation and plentiful amounts of glucose. To achieve this, Patients need the help of experienced professionals who fully understand the processes that are taking place and are able to closely monitor the situation.
Haha, data geek here! Although I do love data, I wish I could have seen your VERY clear & practical advice when I first began my therapeutic ketosis experiment. After testing at different times of the day,, I can confirm your recommendations. I settled on your exact suggestions (2 tests each day and the times he said)
Dover Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. It can be a bit lonely starting out a TH-cam channel but it is really encouraging to know that someone is watching and enjoying the videos!
Please keep at it! You definitely fill a void among the many many videos about the low carb / Keto diet.
Dover Thank you! Really appreciate your kind words! 😀😀😀
I just discovered your channel & really appreciate your subject matter. In 2014, I lost 20 lbs in 30 days because I was focusing on eliminating all inflammation to help me get back to walking from a botched foot surgery. I didn’t know about intermittent fasting or keto back then but apparently learned it naturally as the weight dropped off from eating lots of raw vegetables and all meat was grass fed or organic & fasting from dinner till coffee the next day. Lots of water. 9 years later, my body is now post menopausal and doesn’t bounce back so 10 lbs or even 5 feels like losing 50 so here I sit. Watching you ❤
answers start at 5.47 !!
Thank you! I legit fell asleep waiting for the answers on this video last night 😂 rewatching now lol
Thank you thank you
Thanks ! 😊
Thank you!! I thought I accomplished clicked on a comedy vlogger.😂
Thank you. Not sure why tubers all seem to ramble on and on before they get to the subject
5:45 if you want to skip directly to the best time to test
So 545 pm??
God bless you.
ty! once he started blabbing i scrolled to find this comment lol.
Test 1.5 hrs after waking..Tast before eating
Eat certain meals and test to gauge. Don't test after a work out..
Thank you. An 8 minute video to make a 30 second point.
I am a avid cyclist on keto for 4 months. Today I measured before a 50 mile 3 hour ride =92/.7 and then a few hours after = 65 / 1.5. Seems a very positive result.
Thank you for the information. I tested my ketone level each morning roughly 2 hours after waking up. However, I tested daily during my first 60 days. Test strips being expensive, I used my testing together with my journal to correlate how I felt, what I ate and what physical activity I did in relation to my ketone level. My goal was to learn how it felt to be really in ketosis. And I did loose weight. Now, I do not test very often. Mostly, I test to check if my gut or intuition is correct. I will make a guess at my ketone level, then test to see how close I am. I do this a few times a week or less.
Thankyou Dan, I have been burning through my strips, testing several times a day and when my results were bad I would test even more often so that I could see the numbers get better. Now I will only test once a day before my meal.
Wow a Dr that actually reply. I’m impressed
I just bought a blood ketone meter and this video was so helpful! I didn’t know if you were supposed to check ketones like you check blood glucose levels, when, how often, etc... As an RN I’ve only ever checked people’s blood glucose levels. Ketone levels and the normal ranges are a whole new thing for me. Love your channel. So glad I found it!! Thank you for all your valuable knowledge on the ketogenic diet!!!
Thanks for watching! Glad you found this helpful!
I'm an RN too and learning heaps from Doc Maggs videos.I will see if he has a video on when to best test since I graze,oh dear -( I'm retired)🤭🤫😄
Thank u 4 ur kowledge@DrDanMaggs
Data geek here. I like to track as to understand my body and what my body wants and needs. I thought I was noticing that my ketones looked better if I tested later, but most docs say to test when testing am glucose for the most accurate information. However, your point about pre-dawn makes perfect sense. I really enjoyed this, thanks so much. Keep ‘em coming. 😀
Geek here. So incredibly helpful. Thank you so much. I just got my keto monitor and just wasn’t sure what was best. Thank you again this was extremely clear and easy to understand ❤️
Glad it was helpful!
So, I've been doing this right. I fast daily and I test after my 21-23 hour fast which is usually between 5pm-7pm. Great information!
I never knew any of this information on the importance of when to test for ketones. Amazing video!
Geek here also! I'm new to the Keto diet, trying to reduce my blood glucose levels. I've been doing this for about six weeks now. Lowered my A1C from 8.1 to 7.0
Just started testing my Ketone level yesterday. It was a 3.5
I'm eating as best I can a low carb diet. I've dropped my weight from + or - 154lb's to + or - 133lb's. Weight loss is not my main concern. A1C and glucose levels are and getting off my meds are #1 concern. With doctor approval I'm off two diabetes meds and B/P med. Hopefully after next A1C test in July I can reduce or eliminate last diabetes meds.
Thank you Dr.Dan for your very easy to understand and informative methods.
Wow! This is awesome! Well done and best of luck for your next bloods
I started keto 9 months ago and lost 60 lbs in the first 4 months and lost 90 lbs by month 6.5 but I’ve stalled (really gone up and down 10 lbs) the past almost 2 months (which I’ve had a few cheat days completely off keto and had “keto cheat days” where I went over my calories and over carbs a bit on my 1200 calorie/20 net carb goal. I honestly got comfortable with my weight and was happy but not anymore. I’m ready for the second wind! Just bought a blood ketone meter to give me that kick and I’m so excited! I used urine strips religiously for the longest time and it gave me motivation. Hoping this will too! Just need that push to not eat any keto sweets tbh lol.
Yo dawwwg, fellow geek here. Your content is very good, I'm rooting for your channel to grow!
Thanks Szabo! Really appreciate your comment & thanks for subscribing! :)
I used to run in the morning
I was testing ketones before run and after I came back home.
I do not leave house and run right away, but I walk for around 7 minutes, run for 25-30 minutes and then walk back for around 5-6 minutes (I walk faster, as my body is already in higher performance state)
It my ketone level fall, if liver stays absolutely fine, but they will go up if I get pain because of overworked liver due to ketone production for physical activity)
Test yourself. Run long enough to trigger sharp pain in liver. It does need to be very painful, just sharp. When you get this you should gradually slow down and get rest of at least just walk. It will pass and it is perfectly fine. It is just signal that liver is working harder and it grows to accommodate extra body needs.
Definitely a data geek!! This is exactly the info I was looking for, thank you!!
Geek!! I am not a diabetic but I have been blood testing glucose and ketones for years and I have been wearing a CGM for the last 5 months. I’m always looking for relationships between the data sets and I have often been confused and frustrated. This video is so helpful. Thank you!
I'm a DATA geek and I'm so glad I found this video that can provide an explanation for the keto test results.
Geek! I’m learning lots from your videos!
I agree!
Retired data geek here.
I consider subscribing.
You make quality videos and earning consideration from me is a lot, especially on first day.
I have watching some channels for 3 years before subscribing.
I have few objections here and there, but most people simply do not know this stuff anyway, so it is not your fault (faulty science forgetting facts from history).
Nothing directly related to subject of your channel though.
Geek! 🙋🏾♀️ I have LITERALLY been testing at all the wrong times and I just couldn’t understand why I’m not tracing at all. Thank you so much for the info doc!
I found my results trended exactly as you noted, with an obvious impact from Dawn Effect, post workout, and post meal. Thanks for reinforcing how these can impact levels and that "testing often" isn't necessarily better.
I have been testing my ketone levels before and after (high intensity) exercise out of curiosity. So far I have noticed a very strong correlation between high ketone levels before exercise and better performance.
Yeah, this is an interesting area. I'm playing around with this myself at the moment!
Definitely a data geek! I love seeing how my body responds to all sorts of food and stimuli! I'm horribly afraid of needles (yes even such a tiny thing that's not REALLY a needle) but I still check it pretty often.
Definite geek. I discovered the effects you discussed here by frequent testing, at the times you mentioned.
Just bought a ketone meter but didn’t know best time to test. Now I do, thanks!
Thanks so much! Haven't lost any weight beyond my week 1 loss of 3 lbs and now on week 7. Always in ketosis between .5 and 3.0 so was really hoping to find optimal times to test. This helped so much...hoping for more fat loss soon : )
Howd things end up going for you?
This was very detailed and let me tell you, it's very valuable to know what to test, when to test and how to test. I also appreciate you sharing your schedule with testing your blood ketones. Thanks!
+Restaurant Shortcut Thank you! Appreciate your comment :-)
Definite GEEK. I’m a RN so love seeing the data
Data geek here also! Thank you for the video. I was struggling to find an answer to this question.
Paleomedicina Hungarian Doctors using the PKD to heal very severe diseases suggest go get the ketosis once a day at the end of the first meal right before the second one. That’s your best ketosis level moment. After approx 5 hrs. But they look for a deep ketosis. I prefer omad so I wait 5 hrs , before going to bed. After the sport/ activities it doesn’t make sense. Hope it helps.
Miss your talks. Hope all is well. Thanks for all the great info!
Starts at 02:50, skip the intro.
Doing 18/6 on no sports day
Or 21/3 fasting on sports day
*Almost testing daily just before lunch
Sport day around 3pm
*No sport day at noon
Usely i test after sports which is not ideally what you said,
Start sport around 10:00 till 12:00
Sauna after that till 14:00/14:30
So im eating around 14:30 till 14:30
My average ketone lvls are 0.8 during these times and blood sugar around 4.4
And when i do prolonged fasting 2 to 4 days, my ketone lvls can go up to 4,8
Further more
Doing keto diet and eat healthy oils,
Making my own ghee
Baking in oven my own nuts like
Almond pecan walnut and cashew nuts,
And ofcourse celtic salt for the minerals
GEEEEEK! I test before, 30 mins after, and an hour to an hour and a half after. Just to see how I’m affected by certain meals.
You are absolutely right
High ketone level does have no benefit
Even worse, too high ketone levels may be a sign you are doing something wrong or going downhill
I used to get even 7mmol/l ketones
It wasn't my best time to be honest
Now I am back around 1.5mmol/l to 4.5mmol/l
Test your ketones and glucose if you get dizzy. You may see unusually high ketone levels and unusually low glucose level.
You need to have both testers, perfectly as single device. Testing just ketones is less then half picture.
Geek! I’m super carb-sensitive so testing after a meal (or day) of adding carbs shows me which carbs to avoid. :)
Great work Susan!
5:39 Answer. Before your main meals.
Hi. I’m new to keto, 1 week. I tested yesterday before dinner around 6pm and it was 1.4. This morning at 11am it was 3.8. I was 16/8 fasting. Is that level of 3.8 normal when fasting? The meter info says to stay between 1-3. I’m confused. Thanks for help
*Thanks for sharing this valuable information!*
Geek.
I also like to get on a diet as a hobby since 1998 :D
16-20 y.o: Calorie Deficit (3x)
21-30 y.o: Calorie Deficit (3x), South Beach (2x), Herbalife (2x)
31-40 y.o: Herbalife (1x), Post Partum catering (1x), Mayo (2x), GM (3x), Blood Type (1x), Combo Mayo+Blood Type (2x)
41-50 y.o: Combo IF+GM (1x), Intermittent Fasting (continuous).
I've used GKI as an indicator of how I'm travelling (and I'm in it for more tham weight loss)
Dr Dan
This was really helpful. I will now test just before lunch and before dinner. Been stumped by the dawn effect as I would test just at get up and was extraordinarily hi ( sometimes 120) what?? but the later measurement is between 86 and 100 so it does drop. You've got incredible insight to this process especially looking at used ketones that cannot be measured. All the best keep doging those carbs
I had that dawn reading happen when I tested my BLOOD glucose, and it bothers me because my GP wants fasting blood , as usual, for a HbA1c thinking I may be heading toward pre diabetes . I am reluctant to explain to her that I get info from the internet because she is very negative about that. I'm an RN . I may look for a lot more info to do with my GP problem... 🤔I'm very impressed by Dr Maggs
Hi l just bought a Blood ketones monitoring system and wasn't sure when best to do the test so your video was excellent. Thank you
I think the post meal ketone checks WOULD be pretty helpful if you’re trying to keep insulin levels low. If you eat something that causes a big drop in ketones, you can deduce that you released a bigger amount of insulin, and maybe you might not want to eat that particular food.
Data geek here! My husband says I’m obsessed! I’ve been checking my ketones as soon as I get up! Usually not high ketones or glucose levels. Like so many here, I needed to lower my A1C and I accomplished that in 6 months, from 6.4 to 5.4. I feel great! I am going through a bout of kidney stones at the moment. I doubled up on my potassium and magnesium intake and started doing 45 minute bath soaks in Epsom Salts! It’s working. Any thoughts on the increased incidence of kidney stones on the Keto Diet! Keep up the great work! I’ve been binge watching you all morning!
Joan Strunk dr Berg says to drink lemon water to avoid kidney stones and help them dissolve.
Turned out not to be a kidney stone, so we’re doing more tests. Looks like a cyst in the right kidney. Thanks for the advice. It definitely was not caused by the Keto Diet so that’s good to know.
Amazing video! Really clear and helpful :) yes... data geek here as well 🙌 They are $1 a piece here in Canada. Subbed and hit the bell. Looking forward to more of your content!
$1 a piece adds up pretty fast! Thanks for taking the time to comment and I hope you enjoy my future videos :)
Just got and opened my meter today. Trying to learn everything before starting to use my device and sticks.
Geek! I’m so glad I found your channel.
You make medical topics easy to understand and 'not scary'. Thanks for sharing your expertise with all of us. :)
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Totally agree with this. Right before my first time eating always the best.
SUMMARY: You should avoid to test your ketones because misleading reads in the next cases:
- First thing in the morning.
- Directly after a meal.
- After exercise.
When should you test? - Before lunch or dinner.
Hi Dr. Maggs,
I have enjoyed your videos just finding you today.
You mentioned that the ketones don't show as high after we become keto adapted!
is there a corrolation of lower ketones with the adaptation or does our body get lazy at producing them?
Is there a reason to add ketone type metabolizers to our diet to produce better health, have any studies been done to that combination or to prove or disprove the merits of BHB type nutritional adds?
I would love to see some kind of research that substantiates or shows to prove the lack of corrective measure if they are simply added to one's diet.
I am a 70 year old learning and yes I am a geek...lol.
Thanks,
Dave
I tried all these diets and gave up on all except one. Only the Agoge diet helped me get rid of that persistent belly fat.
I had been testing my ketones when I wake up - thanks for the tip. Can you tell my if synthroid will have any effect on my ketone reading or insulin?
Thank you sir for your help on when and how often to check my BK. I've been using the keto urine strips but recently bought the MOJO meter. Very helpful info and thanks again. God bless and happy new year.
Understanding how blood sugars rise and fall during the day and how ketones only start to rise after that last meal blood sugar decline mean that it is not like taking your temperature. I've just started so I am curious to use Keytone stips to see if I am excreting Keytones or whether my body has adjusted to handling them. Once I know that the process is working I might want to monitor my data but the results speak for themselves; reduced weight levels and blood pressure readings.
Great information! Thanks!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Vera
Very, very, very useful information!!!
Great advice and info again Dr Dan. I’m still debating testing as I’d like faster weight loss but I’m adverse to testing blood ketones, but of needle phobia!!!
Thanks! I'm not going to lie, doing a fingerprick several times a day does suck a bit, but just remember there are people who have been doing it 4 or more times a day their whole lives :)
It is not that bad, when you would get good at it and would know how to set your lancing device and get used to pricking your finger.
There was a time when I was doing it even 4 times a day. Just pure curiosity and hunger for knowledge
Thanks for very informative clip! Keep up the good work! It helps a lot!
Geek as charged. New to Keto diet, so I need the numbers to verify things are going to plan.
Most of the time I'm riding the edge of ketosis. I'm not in it to lose weight, I'm 150lbs but to be fat adapted. I do check after a going for a run to confirm I'm using fat over glucose as fuel. Most of the time I can feel it, fat is the superior fuel. I also test to see the results of certain food.
Super Geek here. Garmin, HR monitor, keto mojo meters for ketones and glucose... even a meter on my tennis racket to tell me what's going on. 🤓
Thank you from Australia for that information have been on strict diet for 1 month to stop seizures. I was at 01.5 which was low. I didnt leave the strip in for 15 sec though.
Data geek. Love testing and comparing info
I do not know if i am a geek. I will check at first.
I got off the diet when my weight loss stopped. Now I am back and the list of ketosis is correct. The only side effect I did not have is keto flu.
I’m trying nutritional ketosis to treat depression so I feel like I need to be consistent in testing.
Wow, I've never even hear of this. Thanks for great info!
Can I measure just one time a day, at the same time each day, to see a trend over time? Do I need to measure twice in a day? I'm just trying a keto diet for the first time, after fasting for 5 days and realizing the benefits of ketosis. I don't have medical needs to test so I was wondering if it might be good enough to test just once a day.
Sure data geek here 🙄💻 . Thanks for the video😃
Total data geek here!!!! 🙋♀️
Dan... HEEEELLLLLPPPP MEEEEEE! I lost 50lbs doing Keto two years ago... Then I put on 30lbs during lockdown... I've tried to get back into Keto but my Keto blood monitor (Keto Mojo) is mostly registering Lo and sometimes (if I'm lucky) 0.01! My blood glucose levels are mostly between 95 and 100. I tried to kick it off with a rigid 72 hour water fast plus ACV and coffee, and 5 solid gym sessions and less than 25g carbs over last 3 days, but cant get those ketones up...! I have lost about 6lbs, but think that's mostly water weight. Starting to think that during lockdown I developed a terrible case of Insulin Resistance! Is it just case of patience? Losing faith here!
My ketones are now staying between 6 and 9.5 on breath. I did blood and it was 4.0 when the breath was 7.1. tested glucose 86. So my ketones high and glucose normal. My breath was exact match with blood when they were between 2-3. but once they raised real high on breath, the blood was different. Still high but not as high.
Curious. Can blood samples be taken from the thigh instead of fingers? Accuracy?
I did a blood test for ketones just to try it out, completely random and I had a value of 4.4 mmol/L, may have been while fasting though, I'm also early in my keto diet, my body is still adapting and maybe I've used too much fat, also exercising on a daily basis.
From what I've read, 4.4 mmol/L is a tad bit too high.
DataGEEK With out question.... CGM because I was sticking myself 7-9 times a day so I could see before after, after peak, after peak after. :)
Geek here. If I exercise in the morning and finish at 10 is noon an OK time to measure my key tones.
1.6 before going to sleep and 2.0 before braking 16 hour fast. Am I doing well?
No. Jk :p that's higher than mine
That’s great!
Yes that’s moderate ketosis
I hate to admit , as a retired nurse : I graze all day . Yesterday I tested neg at dawn,as you spoke about, and mod at 3pm. I don't feel like eating at dawn so should I test just before I have my first bit if food? I am finding your sites the best so far for me. Also, my GP wants to do a HbA1c but my fasting bood glucoses are higher than nonfasting. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't agree with your theory so what do I do about the her lab instruction to fast for HbA1c? It's a real worry.
Hello Dr Dan, quick question. I am doing strict carnivore diet with fat % in grams is between 50-70% daily with almost 0% carbs.
It has been more than 5 weeks since I do the above. I measure my ketones levels and most of the day is less than 0.5 mmol/L but when I have a fully fat meal in some cases it can go up to 0.9 mmol/L.. I am checking my glucose level at the same time and it ranges between 4.5 to 5.4 mmol/L. How do you explain that I am not seeing higher ketones levels. Thanks in advance.
How long after exercise can you test again? I tested 2 and 4 hrs after a back-bicep workout and my levels were ZERO?? I haven't eaten a single carb since 12 days so maybe I ain't in ketose yet?
Data Geek... !! i went keto in 2016-2017 and got great results... but now, i'm having a lot of trouble getting back into it, even though i'm using the same cookie cutter approach as back in 2016. it's been 3 months since i restarted, and i haven't lost a pound. so i'm starting to measure ketones in the blood and it's showing that I'm NOT in ketosis (even though ketostix urine results are almost always positive). very frustrating, but i think that this is the type of problem that may require ketone testing to overcome.
Were can I get a Ketone Blood test meter in the UK??? I've got a Blood Glucose meter from my Doctor, as I'm Diabetic, but they won't help me get a Keytone meter, so I have to buy a one for myself, but none seem to be available from my Pharmacist... Also Test strips and Lances. Thanks.
So I just got my machine and I tested myself and I got a low reading not even numbers came out. I had ate 45 mins before. Is this something to worry about ?
Thank you Dr. Subscribed.
Great video! Good tips, I learned more about the keto diet. :)
+InspiredArtDolls thank you :-)
Just curious? This video is four years;old do you still stick by your beliefs about keto being great? I just started last week --thanks-- subscribed
Yes! 100%
This was SO helpful. Thank you so much!! I have been using the urine strips first thing in the morning= ALL WRONG. :) Thanks again
How long after a workout before testing Ketones?
Any suggestions for food I should avoid with mobility issues. Dr. recommended Low Fob diet. I can't do that diet. I love Keto. its they only way of eating that has worked for me.
How soon after exercise can you test? 1 hour?
Question. I do OMAD at around 5pm after 23 hour fast. Should I check right before the meal or will it be a bad time because of the fasting?
Thanks for the information. I am a big-time data geek. I I'm a retired research nurse with a PhD. Any chance I get to use my data tools I do.
Question: which blood meter available in UK would you recommend? I want to give Keto diet a try for 3 months but also need to monitor for ketones as I am want to make sure I am in Ketosis and see what my performance on weekend club bike rides is like if doing Keto proper, rather than borderline and be in no mans land. I am 4 weeks down already and doing well. Urine strips so far ok but I know this will change.
We use the Abbott Freestyle Optium Neo, which accepts their glucose test strips as well as the ketone strips.
The glucose strips are much less expensive, and I now tend to only check my ketone levels only when my glucose level is 4mmol/L or less.
A low glucose ketone index allows an estimate of a low insulin level, and that is the object of the whole exercise.
The difficulty is that measuring insulin levels directly is much more difficult and expensive.
Patients with a diagnosis of cancer should be trying to achieve a glucose/ketone ratio of 1, which is likely to interfere with the metabolism of the cancer cells, which generally rely on fermentation and plentiful amounts of glucose.
To achieve this, Patients need the help of experienced professionals who fully understand the processes that are taking place and are able to closely monitor the situation.
Geek for sure. I'm a fan.
3.2 first thing on the morning, so they will be much higher later on without the dawn effect? Thanks dr :)