Yeah I'd rather have the gargantuan Peloton Tread and if you include the Bike then it's about even. I have the PTON Spin Bike - amazing and doesn't tear you up like running. I tried one of these a year ago and I was very happy to stick with spin and weight training.
NOTE: This product works exactly as described. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxguEIMc_Qwab-3QMTpF6jaRL80hiOOsIN It originally earned a four-star review due to a minor defect (see below). However, the manufacturer's customer service rep (Lita) went above and beyond the call of duty and deserves five stars now. I wish I could give even more!I purchased this item which arrived quickly. Assembly instructions were easy to follow. There was only one problem: One bolt did not screw into the hole properly. I called the company. Their customer service rep (Lita) was terrific! She took all my information and submitted a request to replace the defective part. I'm hoping to finish assembly and start using this treadmill soon. (Fingers crossed...)FOLLOW UP: Lita called back to inform me that the company will send a replacement part AND a technician(canyoutalk) to install it properly. AMAZING CUSTOMER SERVICE!! Thank you!!
*This is the second Treadmill friend I've owned **bestgym.equipment** t was easy to assemble and easier to fold than my last one. The controls are a lot better as well. I give it 5 stars!*
Nice treadmill, but $5,695 and an additional $300 for that simple display? Heck no... I’ll stick with running outside and my motorized treadmill. Thanks for the review Coop.
I bought mine with a discount and free shipping. It was still expensive, though I saved over $600.00. Yes, there is a lot to be said about running outside. The TrueForm Runner will ever replace that. Some advantages it has, are, you can run 24/7 and not worry about the weather or darkness, it teaches you better running form and it is convenient to work in as a warm up or supersetting a workout or with different stations. I can't recommend the TrueForm Runner enough. If you can find the money in your budget, buy it.
Compared to some of the better powered mills it’s not that crazy. I have only ever bought used because I didn’t want to drop $500-600 on a cheap piece and couldn’t justify $1000+ for a decent one. The mill I want to grab this weekend was originally priced at $2500 and that was a mid tier model.
So, when I heard "motorless", I thought "oh nice, I might be able to afford it since it's just person powered and doesn't have a flat screen on it..." WOW was I wrong!!!
People who are knocking this are the people who have no problem dropping 60K on a car with a fancy emblem. I would say this is probably a very good treadmill for a SERIOUS runner. Of course 6k spent on anything that is not your passion is a waste of money. People who's passion is running but don't lift weights would think spending 10K on a garage gym is crazy to pick heavy things up and put them back down. I see people riding around with 4k in rims and tires on their truck ...even through they know they tires will need to be replaced and the rims will go out of style. This treadmill is no more crazy then most things we Americans waste our money on. Many of us have heard of this treadmill and were wondering what all the hype is about. Coup gave us the answer. Don't knock the video if its not for you. He's not trying to sell you one. Just giving you the info....
I could see maybe buying this curved treadmill for 1100-2000 at most for the customization factors.. But for $5,695 that's insane. That's more than I had to pay for my car.
02phenom The motors that treadmill manufacturers use only cost about $20 in bulk in China. In other words, the profit margin on these is about the same as on a motorized treadmill. Is that margin astronomical? I have no idea. You have the design costs, manufacturing, international shipping , marketing, warehousing, sales, domestic shipping, admin costs, after sales support, and last but not least, liability insurance. I have a feeling that the margin is not as good as it might seem at first for a big hunk of metal.
@@thomasw98 the motor requires much more labor, which is the most expensive part of manufacturing. So again it doesn't make sense why it's more than 3x the cost of other high quality motorized treadmills.
Great review, I would love to see a review of the Assault Air Runner. I'm torn between these two treadmills. I would also love to know what you think of the Trueform Trainer
Have you made a decision? I know it's about 11 months later but I was just stuck between the two as well. In the past I've run on an assault runner but never a trueform. Based on this review and another one from him about the trueform, I went with the trueform trainer. Just got it setup and ran a mile on it.. i have to say it was a very difficult mile based on any minor tweak I did, I instantly suffered I pace etc, from having a bad form. Then corrected the mistake and established my form and the pace and stride instantly got better. This was the reason why I went with true form and glad that what they say it does for form is very true and "should" correlate to road running well.
@@seancasey5834 we picked up the true form about 9 months ago. I absolutely love it. My wife loves it as well. The monitor is nicer on the Air Runner and if I was doing CrossFit or Metcon workouts I might go in that direction, however I wanted to get better at running and I adore the Trueform. I think the learning curve is made out to be a bigger deal that it is. I will not go back to a motorized treadmill again. The wife and I actually wish we would have dropped the coin on the more expensive Trueform for the 10 year warranty but we didn't realize we would like it as much as we do. Somedays I just walk on it and it is dead quiet.
Too bad their customer service is the F#%^*NG WORST! Worst service... EVER! As a doctor and movement specialist I am always trying to look for the best, I thought this was it until I ran into their horrible HORRIBLE service. I couldn’t bring myself to back them and support when they treat small businesses like shit!
Better form is not the pose method, it is a lot more complex than that. If this machine forces good form, then it is a plus (but good form also takes a lot of work) and the price really should be compared to the the cost of injuries and rehab, which works out in thousands ££ (for people that are not in denial about poor form injuries of course..).
Most expensive treadmills I tried at fitness expos as a pro trainer were all non motorized, pretty sure because of the difference of fabrication (they're all curved with more expensive materials) and as said in another comment, motor is not the most expensive thing, I have no idea about the margin on a 10k + treadmill though
I realize many of you are mentioning the price, but many times they will sell second ones that were used in crossfit competitions so check those out. I got once from Wodapoolza all white and much cheaper and warranty transfers. I love this bad boy.
My gym has several of these (although I think the previous version). They are comfortable to use since it's shaped as a natural arc and you don't get that foot slap as you would a regular tread mill. Smooth? Like glass. Love them.
20 odd years ago I brought a treadmill from Argos I don't know what the equivalent would be in America It was also the same principle of using your own power to run it was very tiny very flimsy not a lot of distance you could really run It was dead cheap but my god I loved it till it fell apart Strange that equipment 20 years ago or 30 years ago which wasn't very popular in its designs Are making a huge impact in the present day
Great. Now make one people can afford. The Echo Bike is only 7-800 bucks. The engineering can't be that much more complicated. I mean, c'mon. Still haven't seen any in commercial gyms, but they're usually light years behind the modern methods of training. My gym still has a peck-deck.
Keith Anderson and that is the exact reason why typical gym-go’ers look exactly the same now as they did when they started going to the gym years ago...
@@GarageGymReviews I just bought the new Titan Fitness Plyometric Box set. They're really nice. The boxes came in perfect condition as did the packaging. Less than 1/2 the price of Rogue. I suggest you do a review on them. They're probably not commercial gym quality, but for a home gym they're awesome.
“The crim of the crim”, never heard that before, gotta loom that one up. Awesome review as always Coop. When are you going to review the new Titan Barbells??
I just don't understand how a good electric treadmill can cost $2000=$2500 and even taking into account the cost of metal, this purely mechanical one costs 3 times that??
Oh man that look great. Looks at price tag. Yeah I am a no. I am a no at half that price. They must be ran by a former Gibson guitar executive or something. That price is just insane.
Studies shows in long distance running, foot placements don't matter as much as how fast you pull your feet back up. Plenty of Elite runners who heel strike and have no problems
@@SettleNow couldn't find the right article but this was decent in comparing form. A lot of articles out there on the topic www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/18/knees-stretching-heel-striking-three-running-myths-debunked www.outsideonline.com/2397065/how-much-iron-is-enough-for-athletes
@@stealthassasin1day291 I understand you might have not found the right article, however, the first article you listed supported heel striking because 99.9% of use run less "godlike" than elite runners who sometimes heel strike and when they don't it's because of good form and proper mechanics. Not the best supporting argument for the article. The second article supports heel striking because elite runners that started out mind foot striking continued to be successful running in sponsored cushioned shoes with a heel strike. The reason for this is natural selection and how good of athletes they are and less about where their foot strikes. Foot placement, forefoot/midfoot is less about does it matter if the result is the same and more about reducing the risk of injury. I actually agree you can run equal or even faster at heel strike. But when you heel strike you put about 3x your body weight on your heel. That energy transfers up through the body causing many knees, hip and back problems. Not to mention Achilles & plantar issues. A good reference is on proper running form is naturalrunningcenter.com/natural-running-form/ The site talks a lot about minimal running shoes, which I do support, however, cushioned shoes or barefoot aside you shouldn't heel strike. It's about anatomy of your foot.
@@stealthassasin1day291 I looked myself, and this is first one I found (not a scientific article but refers to studies): fl.milesplit.com/articles/112223/most-read-article-of-2017-heels-or-toes-what-is-the-best-way-to-run
If I was a rich dude with a fully equipped home gym and spare 6000 dollars lying around I'd still probably stick to a skipping rope and invest that money but I'd love to see one at a commercial gym.
What it IS....is an overpriced idea. That WE are what is controlling the stride by how fast we jog/run. But what I think many are missing is the fact that it only simulates running on FLAT GROUND. Where does one find ground that is flat?? A paved track? Because you're running on "flat ground" you're limited the muscles worked. VS a motorized treadmill with an inline/decline option manual/auto. You're sure to get a better cardio workout walking/jogging/running up and down inclines/declines VS on "flat ground". And for this we're paying $6500??? (CDN$). More than a commercial hi-end treadmill that comes with a motor, computer screen and apps.... If TrueForm really wants to sell this machine they need to cut the price BIG TIME...to 1/6 of what they are asking. Make it "worth " the investment. The buyers are going to be comparing it to a NordiTrack :) And the Peloton...COST will definitely play a huge factor. As this is one of many home gym...and one low on the list of "must have"...
I want one. Too bad they are $3500+ for a trainer and $6000 for that model. Way too much. Should be $1000-$1500 at most just like a good rower. I will stick with my rower and jump rope for now.
Those things are horrible. They take all your energy to just get them started. Let's see someone run on them for 30-60 minutes. Let's see someone run on them slowly. Let's a child and woman use it. DO NOT BUY.
I have a solid York incline/decline bench, York squat/press stands, a BodySolid double cable machine, an array of York bars; a curling bar, a 5’ bar, a 6’ bar and a 7’ bar and a trap bar, 8 pairs of adjustable dumbbells, kettle bell handles, 1100 pounds of vintage York plates and two sets of bands in five different weights and it all cost me $2,000 less than this simple machine. The street costs me nothing to walk on and if it’s raining, I go to the Walmart or Lowe’s and walk around inside.
If the Trueform Runner had a switch for multiple levels of resistance, and a better display that would be incredible! The RESOLVE FITNESS "Reactive Runner" treadmill has this but I haven't seen much on reviews. It has multiple magnetic resistant levels. I've never used it, nor is it very popular. It looks like a very interesting treadmill because improving our form is important, but once there why not decrease resistance for a more "normal" running experience? www.treadmillonlinesale.com/resolve-fitness-treadmill.html/ Maybe that's where the "Reactive Runner" could fit in? A review would be awesome. I have no affiliation with them, just hard to part w/ $1000s for a wrong fit, which is why your reviews rock! Thx.
What about Rogue Coop? Do you think they'll make one? I feel like the echo bike was such a success for them, that maybe they're working on one? Seems like a big market for them to tap into. Thoughts anyone?
Hi Coop, Can you do a review of the Technogym SKILLMILL? It is a hamster wheel with a brake so you can use it as a push and pull sled too, genius! They put one in my gym I tested it quickly. It seems awesome. I would like to know how it compares to the Trueform. I am looking to buy a hamster treadmill but I am not sure where to spend my money yet.
would a second hand one that they have on sale from prior CrossFit games be a good investment? (Seems like they take a beating.) Also what’s the difference between the runner and enduro? Lastly the AirRunner has a warranty that the tread will last 150k miles of usage how long does the TRUEFORM tread last for.
I tried one of these and I could not control the speed. As I ran, I would just accelerate non-stop unless I tiptoed. I definitely want one though, very nice and smooth.
6 grand!!! I’ll stick to using my $5 jump rope
Yeah I'd rather have the gargantuan Peloton Tread and if you include the Bike then it's about even. I have the PTON Spin Bike - amazing and doesn't tear you up like running. I tried one of these a year ago and I was very happy to stick with spin and weight training.
NOTE: This product works exactly as described. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxguEIMc_Qwab-3QMTpF6jaRL80hiOOsIN It originally earned a four-star review due to a minor defect (see below). However, the manufacturer's customer service rep (Lita) went above and beyond the call of duty and deserves five stars now. I wish I could give even more!I purchased this item which arrived quickly. Assembly instructions were easy to follow. There was only one problem: One bolt did not screw into the hole properly. I called the company. Their customer service rep (Lita) was terrific! She took all my information and submitted a request to replace the defective part. I'm hoping to finish assembly and start using this treadmill soon. (Fingers crossed...)FOLLOW UP: Lita called back to inform me that the company will send a replacement part AND a technician(canyoutalk) to install it properly. AMAZING CUSTOMER SERVICE!! Thank you!!
*This is the second Treadmill friend I've owned **bestgym.equipment** t was easy to assemble and easier to fold than my last one. The controls are a lot better as well. I give it 5 stars!*
Oh $6000! Wow I’ll just go run outside in the fresh air for free 😲
Nice treadmill, but $5,695 and an additional $300 for that simple display? Heck no... I’ll stick with running outside and my motorized treadmill. Thanks for the review Coop.
Definitely pricey. Excited to see how they're economy version compares.
Not really a garage gym accessory, unless you are very wealthy.
I bought mine with a discount and free shipping. It was still expensive, though I saved over $600.00. Yes, there is a lot to be said about running outside. The TrueForm Runner will ever replace that. Some advantages it has, are, you can run 24/7 and not worry about the weather or darkness, it teaches you better running form and it is convenient to work in as a warm up or supersetting a workout or with different stations.
I can't recommend the TrueForm Runner enough. If you can find the money in your budget, buy it.
Compared to some of the better powered mills it’s not that crazy. I have only ever bought used because I didn’t want to drop $500-600 on a cheap piece and couldn’t justify $1000+ for a decent one. The mill I want to grab this weekend was originally priced at $2500 and that was a mid tier model.
Now we have 650usd ones.
If you want something to be jacked up in price say it's used for crossfit. Man 5k is alot!
So, when I heard "motorless", I thought "oh nice, I might be able to afford it since it's just person powered and doesn't have a flat screen on it..." WOW was I wrong!!!
Oh man I said the same exact thing. How is this logical 🤔 🙄 😐
People who are knocking this are the people who have no problem dropping 60K on a car with a fancy emblem. I would say this is probably a very good treadmill for a SERIOUS runner. Of course 6k spent on anything that is not your passion is a waste of money. People who's passion is running but don't lift weights would think spending 10K on a garage gym is crazy to pick heavy things up and put them back down. I see people riding around with 4k in rims and tires on their truck ...even through they know they tires will need to be replaced and the rims will go out of style. This treadmill is no more crazy then most things we Americans waste our money on. Many of us have heard of this treadmill and were wondering what all the hype is about. Coup gave us the answer. Don't knock the video if its not for you. He's not trying to sell you one. Just giving you the info....
You still did not help me see YOUR POINT 🤣
Exactly
I looked at the price before watching the review...and decided not to watch the review.
I could see maybe buying this curved treadmill for 1100-2000 at most for the customization factors.. But for $5,695 that's insane. That's more than I had to pay for my car.
stop being broke
Why is it so expensive? No motor no power? Profit margin must be astronomical.
02phenom The motors that treadmill manufacturers use only cost about $20 in bulk in China. In other words, the profit margin on these is about the same as on a motorized treadmill. Is that margin astronomical? I have no idea. You have the design costs, manufacturing, international shipping , marketing, warehousing, sales, domestic shipping, admin costs, after sales support, and last but not least, liability insurance. I have a feeling that the margin is not as good as it might seem at first for a big hunk of metal.
Should be priced at around $1000. I wouldn’t pay much more than that.
@@thomasw98 the motor requires much more labor, which is the most expensive part of manufacturing. So again it doesn't make sense why it's more than 3x the cost of other high quality motorized treadmills.
Not enough companies make them yet. Same way with a Versa Climber.
Material. These things are built with think metal, built to last a long time
I have a $500 Chinese version that works equally well, they also have a slightly more expensive version with magnetic resistance like the skillmill
Which brand?
When are u gonna compare this with the assault air runner ?
No love for the Woodway curve? I mean, at least give some props to the ones that actually came up with the design in the first place...
It's mentioned among the other comparisons.
10 k 😆
Have you ever done a review of assault air runner?
How’s the shock absorption! I’m getting older and impact can get rough on my joints.
I would like to know also. I pretty much stopped all cardio after my knee injury
C'mon. $6K. OIC, it's $6K for the motorless option. #arbitrage
Website doesn’t allow color customization... I want a red one as featured in this video.
Great review, I would love to see a review of the Assault Air Runner. I'm torn between these two treadmills. I would also love to know what you think of the Trueform Trainer
Have you made a decision? I know it's about 11 months later but I was just stuck between the two as well.
In the past I've run on an assault runner but never a trueform. Based on this review and another one from him about the trueform, I went with the trueform trainer.
Just got it setup and ran a mile on it.. i have to say it was a very difficult mile based on any minor tweak I did, I instantly suffered I pace etc, from having a bad form. Then corrected the mistake and established my form and the pace and stride instantly got better.
This was the reason why I went with true form and glad that what they say it does for form is very true and "should" correlate to road running well.
@@seancasey5834 we picked up the true form about 9 months ago. I absolutely love it. My wife loves it as well. The monitor is nicer on the Air Runner and if I was doing CrossFit or Metcon workouts I might go in that direction, however I wanted to get better at running and I adore the Trueform. I think the learning curve is made out to be a bigger deal that it is. I will not go back to a motorized treadmill again. The wife and I actually wish we would have dropped the coin on the more expensive Trueform for the 10 year warranty but we didn't realize we would like it as much as we do. Somedays I just walk on it and it is dead quiet.
I can't afford that but do you have a link to that box you were sitting on?
We did a full review on it here: www.garagegymreviews.com/rogue-resin-plyo-box-review-durable-safe-and-reasonably-priced-plyo-box
Great box!
Trueform runner vs trainer?
My gym had some of those, it killed my knees and I hate them.
I'm getting one for everyone. Check's in the mail.
way too expensive for no motor
Too bad their customer service is the F#%^*NG WORST! Worst service... EVER! As a doctor and movement specialist I am always trying to look for the best, I thought this was it until I ran into their horrible HORRIBLE service. I couldn’t bring myself to back them and support when they treat small businesses like shit!
The price is rip off.
Its price should be less than electric one.
Why are non motorized treadmills so much more expensive. It's literally just bearings and a track with arms built on.
Better form is not the pose method, it is a lot more complex than that. If this machine forces good form, then it is a plus (but good form also takes a lot of work) and the price really should be compared to the the cost of injuries and rehab, which works out in thousands ££ (for people that are not in denial about poor form injuries of course..).
Why do coop look so forced, sad, and dishonest in this video? I was difficult for him to swallow what he is saying?
@GGR How did you get them to give you the green turf and it not be green? I offered to pay extra and no dice? Did they used to offer it?
I just bought the AirRunner Elite for $4000
Unnecessarily costly. Its a simple mechanical device ffs
It's free outside. Great review though!
It is, and for most people that is the best option.
I feel I would get this for in winter, when it's 5 degrees and pissing rain and hail haha
I hate when people say this as if treadmill owners have somehow never considered that option.
pretty crazy that this gym guru looks like a home depot working gummy bear
no motor..i'm thinkin' hey that's cheaper! Uhhhh yea no way!
It should be cheaper, and I bet they would sell more.
Most expensive treadmills I tried at fitness expos as a pro trainer were all non motorized, pretty sure because of the difference of fabrication (they're all curved with more expensive materials) and as said in another comment, motor is not the most expensive thing, I have no idea about the margin on a 10k + treadmill though
What are your thoughts on the Trueform Trainer?
I wonder what the profit margin is on this thing? I love the concept but for a home gym that price is most probably a no go.
They have a cheaper option out now. Excited to see how it compares.
I got this for my 15yo and he qualified for State after one year. Amazing.
Yeah but it definitely was not just because of the treadmill you probably got your boy on juice
Trevor Baune Just 10mg of Anavar and some Epo.
I’m definitely considering one due to the ability to correct your form and to train distances more accurately.
I realize many of you are mentioning the price, but many times they will sell second ones that were used in crossfit competitions so check those out. I got once from Wodapoolza all white and much cheaper and warranty transfers. I love this bad boy.
Chris Konecny I love running outside for free
Bodyweight exercises are free too. Why buy any piece of equipment
Did you paint the turf black? I see a green turf option on their website. Thanks for all of your reviews I highly appreciate it!!
The best treadmills are the human powered with variable brake setups, anyone worth their salt in the fitness world knows this.
My gym has several of these (although I think the previous version). They are comfortable to use since it's shaped as a natural arc and you don't get that foot slap as you would a regular tread mill. Smooth? Like glass. Love them.
20 odd years ago I brought a treadmill from Argos I don't know what the equivalent would be in America
It was also the same principle of using your own power to run it was very tiny very flimsy not a lot of distance you could really run
It was dead cheap but my god I loved it till it fell apart
Strange that equipment 20 years ago or 30 years ago which wasn't very popular in its designs
Are making a huge impact in the present day
Great. Now make one people can afford. The Echo Bike is only 7-800 bucks. The engineering can't be that much more complicated. I mean, c'mon. Still haven't seen any in commercial gyms, but they're usually light years behind the modern methods of training. My gym still has a peck-deck.
I don't think it's just engineering. It's also materials used and the fact that it's made in the USA still. The Echo Bike is imported.
They had one at my old gym. Hardly ever saw anyone use it. Typical people like lazy exercise. Machines that make them feel good, strong, etc.
Keith Anderson and that is the exact reason why typical gym-go’ers look exactly the same now as they did when they started going to the gym years ago...
How easy on the knees is this thing compared to a trail or rubber track? Will it work for a 260 pounder who wants to do some jogging and sprints?
If you ca learn to run correctly on this you will be more effective on the street when you run. We have one at my gym and it's a beast
Get a magnet. It will help when determining metal material(s).
Good idea!
@@GarageGymReviews NP buddy. Keep up the great reviews.
Great review! Excellent suggestion about upgrading the electronics. Today people expect connectivity.
Agreed. I've been told they're working on it.
@@GarageGymReviews I just bought the new Titan Fitness Plyometric Box set. They're really nice. The boxes came in perfect condition as did the packaging. Less than 1/2 the price of Rogue. I suggest you do a review on them. They're probably not commercial gym quality, but for a home gym they're awesome.
Can you do a 1 hour run on this treadmill? Or is it only Good for intervals ?
Got a comment on how this compares to the Assault Air Runner?
The Assault Air Runner! Rogue Fitness.
Can this give the same speed and endurance result as to running outside?
“The crim of the crim”, never heard that before, gotta loom that one up. Awesome review as always Coop. When are you going to review the new Titan Barbells??
Just got one in!
Creme de la creme. French for cream of the cream or best of the best.
I just don't understand how a good electric treadmill can cost $2000=$2500 and even taking into account the cost of metal, this purely mechanical one costs 3 times that??
I thinks it’s the hardware. It has a lot more wheels and bearings.
The treadmill will breakdown often and will require maintenance. This, will not
I’ll stick with my woodway.
Oh man that look great.
Looks at price tag.
Yeah I am a no. I am a no at half that price. They must be ran by a former Gibson guitar executive or something. That price is just insane.
Studies shows in long distance running, foot placements don't matter as much as how fast you pull your feet back up. Plenty of Elite runners who heel strike and have no problems
I am not familiar with those. Can you supply a link? Thank you.
You gotta start hanging out with different "elite" runners
@@SettleNow couldn't find the right article but this was decent in comparing form. A lot of articles out there on the topic
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/18/knees-stretching-heel-striking-three-running-myths-debunked
www.outsideonline.com/2397065/how-much-iron-is-enough-for-athletes
@@stealthassasin1day291 I understand you might have not found the right article, however, the first article you listed supported heel striking because 99.9% of use run less "godlike" than elite runners who sometimes heel strike and when they don't it's because of good form and proper mechanics. Not the best supporting argument for the article. The second article supports heel striking because elite runners that started out mind foot striking continued to be successful running in sponsored cushioned shoes with a heel strike. The reason for this is natural selection and how good of athletes they are and less about where their foot strikes. Foot placement, forefoot/midfoot is less about does it matter if the result is the same and more about reducing the risk of injury. I actually agree you can run equal or even faster at heel strike. But when you heel strike you put about 3x your body weight on your heel. That energy transfers up through the body causing many knees, hip and back problems. Not to mention Achilles & plantar issues. A good reference is on proper running form is naturalrunningcenter.com/natural-running-form/ The site talks a lot about minimal running shoes, which I do support, however, cushioned shoes or barefoot aside you shouldn't heel strike. It's about anatomy of your foot.
@@stealthassasin1day291 I looked myself, and this is first one I found (not a scientific article but refers to studies): fl.milesplit.com/articles/112223/most-read-article-of-2017-heels-or-toes-what-is-the-best-way-to-run
how much is your gym worth, with absolutely everything in it? just 6k for that🥴. Very jealous of you brother
The price of these things are insane. Way overpriced. 6k? Really? I don’t think so. Seems people are paying a CrossFit tax if you ask me.
Is it in the UK? How much?
Hi Coop! Can you do a review on the Titan Fitness Blues City Power Bar? I could not believe my eyes when I saw that they made a Power Bar 😂
Yep, working on it!
If I was a rich dude with a fully equipped home gym and spare 6000 dollars lying around I'd still probably stick to a skipping rope and invest that money but I'd love to see one at a commercial gym.
What it IS....is an overpriced idea. That WE are what is controlling the stride by how fast we jog/run. But what I think many are missing is the fact that it only simulates running on FLAT GROUND. Where does one find ground that is flat?? A paved track?
Because you're running on "flat ground" you're limited the muscles worked. VS a motorized treadmill with an inline/decline option manual/auto. You're sure to get a better cardio workout walking/jogging/running up and down inclines/declines VS on "flat ground".
And for this we're paying $6500??? (CDN$). More than a commercial hi-end treadmill that comes with a motor, computer screen and apps....
If TrueForm really wants to sell this machine they need to cut the price BIG TIME...to 1/6 of what they are asking. Make it "worth " the investment. The buyers are going to be comparing it to a NordiTrack :) And the Peloton...COST will definitely play a huge factor. As this is one of many home gym...and one low on the list of "must have"...
I want one. Too bad they are $3500+ for a trainer and $6000 for that model. Way too much. Should be $1000-$1500 at most just like a good rower.
I will stick with my rower and jump rope for now.
Those things are horrible. They take all your energy to just get them started. Let's see someone run on them for 30-60 minutes. Let's see someone run on them slowly. Let's a child and woman use it. DO NOT BUY.
I have a solid York incline/decline bench, York squat/press stands, a BodySolid double cable machine, an array of York bars; a curling bar, a 5’ bar, a 6’ bar and a 7’ bar and a trap bar, 8 pairs of adjustable dumbbells, kettle bell handles, 1100 pounds of vintage York plates and two sets of bands in five different weights and it all cost me $2,000 less than this simple machine. The street costs me nothing to walk on and if it’s raining, I go to the Walmart or Lowe’s and walk around inside.
If the Trueform Runner had a switch for multiple levels of resistance, and a better display that would be incredible! The RESOLVE FITNESS "Reactive Runner" treadmill has this but I haven't seen much on reviews. It has multiple magnetic resistant levels. I've never used it, nor is it very popular. It looks like a very interesting treadmill because improving our form is important, but once there why not decrease resistance for a more "normal" running experience? www.treadmillonlinesale.com/resolve-fitness-treadmill.html/
Maybe that's where the "Reactive Runner" could fit in? A review would be awesome. I have no affiliation with them, just hard to part w/ $1000s for a wrong fit, which is why your reviews rock! Thx.
This machine feels like running outside. For 6k dollars. Or you could just.... Run outside..... For free.
In the UK you’d pay about £5500. Thats $7400!!😂😂😂😂..... I dont think so, thanks.
Want one so bad but that price tag isnt in my park right now. Someday though for sure.
Yeah, it's definitely up there. They do have a plastic, economy version they just released. Not sure how it compares yet, though.
What about Rogue Coop? Do you think they'll make one? I feel like the echo bike was such a success for them, that maybe they're working on one? Seems like a big market for them to tap into. Thoughts anyone?
Yes, I could definitely see it. I could also see Concept 2 making one.
@@GarageGymReviews That's awesome. Didn't even think about them...but definitely hope Rogue steps up!
DIY run 300 bucks think where a lot people are at. That or run outside. Spending 6k on hamster wheel illogical even if I had 6k to waste.
Hi Coop, Can you do a review of the Technogym SKILLMILL? It is a hamster wheel with a brake so you can use it as a push and pull sled too, genius! They put one in my gym I tested it quickly. It seems awesome. I would like to know how it compares to the Trueform. I am looking to buy a hamster treadmill but I am not sure where to spend my money yet.
My dude, what are those shoes you’re running in?
Edit: No Bull. Slow mo told me.
would a second hand one that they have on sale from prior CrossFit games be a good investment? (Seems like they take a beating.)
Also what’s the difference between the runner and enduro?
Lastly the AirRunner has a warranty that the tread will last 150k miles of usage how long does the TRUEFORM tread last for.
Is the turf designed to last? I don't see an option to buy belt replacements and I have read that turf can last anywhere from 5-20 years
6k? Come on China, work your magic....
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please, please, please do Water Walker Rebirth Exercise Bath. it's a treadmill.
Coop, How long do you truly think, one could RUN on The true form runner? Thank you!
Too narrow
I think I'll do a shit load of burpees to save 6 grands lol. Awesome if can afford it though.
Or you could just run outside for free and not have to simulate anything.
7k lol
man it's look really nice but the price tag makes me puke red white and blue
Yeah, out of the price range for many, but not all.
I tried one of these and I could not control the speed. As I ran, I would just accelerate non-stop unless I tiptoed. I definitely want one though, very nice and smooth.
HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET IT OUT OF THE BOX AND INTO YOUR HOUSE?!??!?
When will you review the TRUEFORM trainer?
$6k? I'll just run outside. What a ripoff.
assault bike or bust! $3 bottle of oil and it will last longer than I will.
Too expensive. Better to run outside if you can.
Why is the one with no motor cost more than the one with motor???
It's good but price is over exaggerated!
No ones gonna buy this unless you’re Jeff bezos
Id rather spend 4k on a true ps800
Hi Coop -- I'm curious about your thoughts on why the rubber belt might be better than the turf for longer runs?
GreenGo construyete una mejor
Why it cost more than motorized treadmills lol.
You wearing NO BULLS😈
Any comparison to the trainer?
This reminds me of the Nohrd Sprintbok!
Buy a used car instead.