If you make a video about Hotel Mario, there's a bunch of things to talk about. At least for an introductory video, it'd be best to just talk about the game itself, rather than its legacy, which could be a whole video in and of itself.
no offense to Alex, but your Editing for your videos is much better. You add funny memes and skits more in your older videos. Hopefully Alex gains that more comedic timing or maybe you could help him out with it
I wouldn't consider myself a Paper Mario purest Cuz I love all the Mario games ( especially Paper Mario games 🤞🏻hopefully there'll be a Paper Mario of certain characters analysis video video )
Bowser is maybe the villain who becomes the embodiment of video game boss battles and a foil to Mario as a player, but he's also the most wholesome and loving dad to Bowser Jr.
Extra detail: In Paper Jam, the Koopalings question if paper versions exist, to which Wendy responds with them being busy. So technically, the existence of the Paper Koopalings were foreshadowed almost a whole year before they debuted in Color Splash.
I still like to think Bowser took the Koopalings in and taught them evil when their original parents disappeared, preparing them to one day be the skilled generals of Jr's army when he grows enough to take over. The kids are basically his future plan to make sure all his Koopa stuff is in good hands after he passes.
Bowser can live as a undead skeleton, I don't think he's gonna die from old age lol. He's probably just gonna make Jr the king himself when he gets older.
I think Koopalings are just children that Bowser had with random servants. Bowser Jr. mom was probably a girl that Bowser actually cared about. Maybe she actually had royal blood in her.
I like the theory that they’re actually his nephews/niece. Apparently bowser had a brother who was in the lost levels game, and canonically did not survive, so he took them in as his own.
@@Hi-fd4cw It was never said that Bowser's brother canonically did not survive and it is most definitely not true since Koopas can't die, they turn into dry bones and then can get their skin and flesh revived by a potion.
You should have went more in detail on the personal relationships Bowser Jr. developed with each Koopaling. How Morton is his best friend, how Ludwig always believed in Jr.'s potential, how Iggy just vibes, etc.
It's one thing to not make the Koopalings Bowser's kids, but reducing their relationship strictly to being loyal minions is really lame to me. I feel they could've kept that familial bond between them without any blood ties like how Kamek is his right-hand man and father figure. I wish the Koopalings could've at least gotten new backstories along with the retcon to explain their connection, cause right now I'm left to assume that one of Bowser's highest ranking minions are a bunch of random kids he found.
I felt the same way after playing Paper Jam. I didn't know why Bowser was treating them like minions at the time. I didn't know they retconed their relationship before playing, so I was hurt when I found out.
@@Hamantha It's actually those games that reaffirm my problem because in those entries they refer to Bowser and Junior with titles like 'Lord' and 'Master'. And Bowser not showing as much care when they get harmed or lose.
Jr is biological son and the Koopalings are adopted, in my head at least. Boom Boom and Pom Pom seem to be the same species as the Koopalings but lack the adopted family part.
Too bad there's no official name for Bowser's subspecies. Personally I call them "Bull Koopas" since Bowser is based on the Ox-King from Journey to the West.
If the koopalings were adopted Bowser Jr wouldn't be an only child, because adopted children are still your children. Also, @MexicanDragon2000 I think Bowser is just a Koopa kinda like how Ganondorf is a Gerudo. Then if Boom Boom is an entirely seperate species in itself then the Koopalings could belong to the Boom Boom species. Lockskin/Gnoggin made a theory about that.
@@jvbon646 The thing about that is Boom Boom and Pom Pom don't look like Koopas at all, comparing them to Bowser, Kamek, Lakitu they all have similarities that Boom Boom and Pom Pom lack, then looking at the Koopalings they seem to be closer to how Boom Boom looks than the Koopas.
I think Bowser, Bowser Jr., the Koopalings, Boom Boom and Pom Pom are a certain genus of koopa that makes them superior to other koopas because they have unique features that no other koopas have. I like to call them Super Koopas.
Ludwig's name is on the piano that Bowser plays in the movie, so it's fair to assume he and the other Koopalings exist in the movie universe. Maybe they'll show up in the sequel, it'll be less confusing than Bowser Jr showing up and having to explain why he's here without mentioning his mom. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.
I may be alone, but I always enjoy it when the Koopalings show up. They're some of my mains in Mario Kart 8 (but not anymore since they added Petey and Kamek) and I like their New Super Mario Bros boss fights. Roy's my favourite, followed by Larry, Iggy and Morton. Bowser Jr's pretty good too. My headcanon is that Bowser Jr is Bowser's real son, and the Koopalings are cousins who are about junior's age.
The Japanese SMB2/the Lost Levels featured a blue Bowser that has been referred to as Bowser's brother by official sources, although the canonicity of this has always been up in the air
This used to be the popular opinion until New Super Mario Bros. Wii, since which they’ve been extremely over-utilized by Nintendo. People grew tired of them because they were cheap placeholders for bosses or, in the case of Mario Kart 8, playable characters. They wouldn’t be hated in MK8 if they were mere variations of Bowser Jr., instead of filling 7 character spots.
@@ninjoshday That was a "Fake Bowser" The "Bowser's Brother" thing was retconned long ago, the same way the Koopalings changed from Bowser's sons to just an elite squad
@@20000dino they literally cannot be variations of bjr because of how character animations work in the game lol. it didn't really work in SSBU either, your anger should be redirected at how many mario/peach reskins there are & how many "baby" characters there are, of which there are way more than the koopalings
Given the name Koopalings It's likely that they are actual siblings within the group. It could also mean they just have a strong familial bond with each other and probably with Bowser and Bowser Jr.
@@animal1nstinct394 That's how I always think of it. That and the "Mario isn't a Plumber" thing are just dumb retcons that don't deserve to be acknowledged.
Always fascinating to see how lore changes over time. Maybe Bowser disowned the Koopalings cause they failed him or something, just like how Yoshi is from another marriage he doesn't talk about.
In the Super Mario animated series, the koopalings were bowser’s kids, and Wendy is daddy’s little girl. As a newly father who has a 9 month year-old daughter, That’ll always be cannon in my heart.
I remember that me and my little brother used to be OBSESSED with the Koopalings. I faintly remember us making our own story about their backstory. If my tiny brain serves me right, their original parents died in a fire, in which Ludwig as the eldest, took it upon himself to get his younger siblings to safety. Later, Bowser adopted them. Well, we do still see them as Bowser's kids, just adopted, but to fit with actual lore, they grew up to rather respect Bowser as a boss rather than a father. Who knows, perhaps they internally think Bowser as a father. i miss the old days
Given Japan didn't name the Koopalings, way back when I was a kid, my dad gave them names based on their appearances he thought were fitting, also based on singers: Ludwig, fittingly, was Beethoven because of his hair, but with van instead of von, also because ELO's song Roll Over Beethoven. Lemmy Koopa was Willie, after Willie Nelson. Roy was Buddy, after Buddy Holly. Iggy was Waylon, after Waylon Jennings. Wendy was Tammy, after Tammy Wynette. Morton was Hank, after Hank Williams Senior and Junior, fitting, given Morton's later name. Larry was Dave, after David Allan Coe. Yeah, we're country folks.
As a Koopaling fan, while I can agree they are definitely not biological to Bowser. I could theorize they are adopted considering Jr’s relation. In fact, I have hopes that the second Mario movie could potentially establish the Koopaling’s origins
Yeeeeaaah I thing adopted children are not gonna call their dad "lord" lol. My headcanon is Bowser made a random orphanage with hundreds of kids, so he and his troops could train them to become members of his army. That'd explain not only the Koopalings but also the Koopa Kids. And I also think General Guy from paper Mario is probably a kid as well- the dude calls Mario "sir" and "meanie" and says he's cheating when he loses, PLUS he drives a TOY TANK and lives in a magical TOY BOX. So yeah my headcanon is just that Bowser trained kids in a orphanage in his kingdom, and the Koopalings are the most successful of them.
Honestly, even though I grew up in the era of Mario Jr was introduced in, I quickly ended up liking the other Koopalings more. Since I sucked at Sunshine ivnever got far enough for Jrs reveal (also i never owned the game myself, only played on older relatives' GameCubes). But I did own the original Mario and Luigi superstar saga which has the Koopalings as end game bosses with Jr no where in sight. So I just was more attached to them for the concept of "Bowser's kids" and eventually finding out they came first anyway, I just saw it as "oh so there's 8 koopalings, Jr just came later". But these days I see this disdain for the 7 OG children from some of the mario fandom, especially after Miyamoto's retcon, and it's just confusing considering they have more of a legacy in the franchise than Jr does. And it's not like they're obscure no names Nintendo just shoe horns recently as deep cuts, everyone and their mom and her mom have played SMB3, SMW, they're prominent in the old cartoons and comics, and they're resurgence is nearing 20 years ago as much as it pains me to say lol. These aren't no names, they've long been series juggernauts. Personal favs are Ludwig, Wendy and Roy. Rant aside, at this point I do wonder if the Koopalings are even related to EACH OTHER now lol. Gonna have to get a whole bunch of Koopas on Maury at this rate.
I also grew up loving the koopalings to the point that they inspire me to make my own game with my own koopalings called the "Dragonlings". But do you know that Bowser has a brother so my Theory that something happened to his brother that's why he adopted Koopalings so that means Bowser Jr and the Koopalings cannot be related as brothers and sisters but as cousin. I want to hear your answer on that. do you think it's true?
@@TheDrake-Dog-4273 I think it's a cool theory, just personally don't think the "Bowser's brother" thing will ever be acknowledged ever again officially. But still a nice idea
I'm one of the few people who actually wants to see The Koopalings return in Mario Wonder, but only if they have more unique boss fights. Don't just stop at Lemmy having circus balls and Wendy tossing hoop rings, give every Koopa Kid their own identity and help them stand out from each other. I would personally love to see Ludwig fight with the Infamous Fanged Piano from Mario 64 since he's named after a famous piano player.
Well i mean the balls and rings help make them stand out but yeah, go ham with it. Hell, pair koopalings and jr up so there's room for other bossea too.
My personal headcanon, as Morton’s full name is Morton Koopa Jr., is that Bowser had a brother, Morton Koopa Sr., and adopted all of his kids after his death.
My headcannon is that the Koopalings are the children of Bowser's brother, a character briefly mentioned as the antagonist of The Lost Levels. It's definitely possible that Mario successfully killed Bowser's brother for good (pun intended), and Bowser kind of semi-adopted them in the events following. They then attacked Mario in more of the early games as a bid for revenge, but since they always failed, Bowser stopped humoring them. However, they together climbed the ranks of Bowser's army legitimately, which is why they reappeared later in the New Super Mario Bros. series. Due to both the new power dynamic and the collective grief of the family, Bowser would go on to treat them in a more formal manner as minions. They're clearly still given special treatment, though, since they would get full-blown world castles in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, while Kamek, a much higher-ranked and longer-serving officer only got mini castles (albeit multiple).
I really think Bowser Jr has grown the most in Bowser Jr’s Journey. That scene where he starts shedding tears, remembering how harshly he treated the Koopalings despite they best efforts to please them was truly heartbreaking.
I saw a piece on DeviantArt that proposed the idea of a single Koopa mating with different spouses at different times, being the ancestors of the various Koopalings, making them distant relatives instead of direct siblings.
But he’s like the youngest so how would he be the heir to the throne?realistically he is only considered bowsers kid cuz he is identical to bowser and the others are not.
@@princebealalthe3rd732 There are many cases in the Bible of the youngest getting the birthright. So the notion is not unprecedented. Perhaps the koopalings failures to stop Mario cost them or maybe it is pure and simple favoritism.
I imagine the same, plus it would be good to see that at the end Bowser Jr and the Koopalings face off against Mario and Luigi's family and at the end of their defeat it can be seen in the post-credits that this bowser says: Bowser: my little ones I have something difficult to tell you about Peaches and Daisy Junior: we already know Peaches is not our mom Iggy: and Daisy didn't want to be our Mama either. with Bowser crying to forgive him for lying to them Ludwing: But you know, dad, she doesn't have our qualities that we get from you, she's not smart. Wendy: She's not pretty. Roy: It's not strong Lemmy: She's not charismatic Larry: It's not amazing. (All To Encourage His Father) Morton: But for daddy one thing we promise is that when we grow up Koopalings: we will face Mario and His Family again Bowser: Well said my children
GOTTA say: I love the running gag of you giving the series an accented flourish, with you calling it *Soopah Mahdio Bahzahs"* LOL! Also MAJOR KUDOS to Alex for guessing all but TWO of the Koopa kids' names, without googling! Mad respect, sir! And, of course, to our prophet, AS WELL!!
Bowser in the second Mario movie: “those are my kids… they live with their mother, I don’t have custody because ‘being an awesome overlord’ isn’t a good environment to raise kids.”
Great video! I'd like to think of the Koopalings being adopted by Bowser in my head cannon. Also congrats on finding a great editor, these videos are so well done!
Same. They're turtles, so the're all born abandoned on a beach. There Kameks must experiment on them and 99 times of 100 they just end up with a Shy Guy, Birdo, or Spike.
Mentok! My top Twitch Streamer watched your vid on Thursday during our chill stream and Im glad I tuned in to see your DK origins. Happy for some new content to watch
I think that Illumination in the sequel is going to say that they are going to be his children (reference to the original series) and I'm sure that they will say that Junior and the Koopalings only want to impress their dad and bowser. I imagine that in one scene Kamek tells him that he found the drawings that Junior and Lemy made, for example, one where they end up with Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad, one where it is seen that they want to see who they want from Mother to Peach or Daisy but I think what would be touching is that together they make a drawing for Bowser of all of them calling themselves a Happy Family
YESSS, PLEASE DO A VDEO OF HOTEL MARIO. More over the fact of its history and why it was made the way it is. It would be so awesome. It would be so cool.
A friend pointed me here and said "there's Bowser Jr. hate, typical Koopaling fans" and I don't know what to do with this information or tell him how to get over it.
Given that Super Mario Brothers 3 is a fictional stage play, it’s entirely possible that the Koopalings are bowsers kids in the play, but in the real world they are just high ranking koopa troops that bowser hired to become actors in the play and were “canonically” never bowsers family.
Is everyone not going to question the fact that Bowser Junior's paintbrush that seems to have the ability to make anything that gets painted black going from massive fit of rage was made by Egad? Which makes me wonder, what was Egad's original intention with this brush?
The way I explain it to myself is that Bowser’s species of Koopa is now very rare. They live long, but there are very few left. (What did you think all those mushrooms were growing on? They feed on decay…) Therefore, when Bowser discovers any Koopas like him, he feels obliged to house them. And Bowser Jr.‘s mom died or something. Maybe he had a nasty divorce, so he’s back to pursuing his childhood crush on Peach. I don’t like the idea of “headcanons” though, I don’t think of it like that. It’s just the only way Jr, the Koopalings, Boom Boom, and Pom Pom make sense together to me. And Bowser’s Brother I guess.
The Koopas black magic absolutely debunks that theory tho, they can live as undead skeletons and revive said undead skeletons into flesh beings using a potion, so I'd say it's very unlikely they've died and if they did they can easily bring their dead ones back. My headcanon is just that Bowser adopted a whole orphanage to train the orphans to be soldiers in his troops. That'd not only explain the Koopalings, but also the Koopa Kids from the Mario party games. As for Bowser Jr? My headcanon is that Bowser Jr is a product of the Star Rod from paper Mario 1, Bowser simply wished on the star rod to have a biological son.
There was a few details you missed. You were talking about non main Mario titles featuring the Koopalings and you mentioned Yoshi's Safari and Hotel Mario. However you forgot Mario is Missing; which is also Luigi's FIRST solo game predating Luigi's Mansion. Also to my knowledge the Koopalings originally got their names from the combination of Koopa and hatchlings; implying they're Bowser children. They were referred to as his children in Super Mario Bros 3(game and cartoon series), Super Mario World, and; the one you missed, Super Smash Bros Melee; I'm assuming that was the LAST time they were referred to as Bowser's children. Later as Koopalings their name make up got changed as a combination of the words Koopa and siblings; implying that although they are NOT Bowser's children, they are all related. Finally their name sakes of Koopalings got changed for a final time as it currently is a combination of the words Koopa and underlings; implying they just work for Bowser, but aren't his children. Also it's rumored Bowser Jr. is based off of Koopa Kid from the Mario Party series. After Mario Party 3 this character was replaced by Bowser Jr in all future projects; including remakes of older versions because Bower Jr didn't exist yet. Oh and I think Bowser Jr in Mario and Luigi PIT was an older version of Baby Bowser and NOT Bowser Jr, but who knows. Sorry that was a lot. Anyway I did enjoy the video and look forward to more content. Congrats on your editor and keep up the good work. 👍
I liked the story of the origami king, but the boss battles can get frustrating if you’re just wanting to breeze through. My brother said it’s the worst Mario he’s played and didn’t even finish it hahah. I thought the frustration paid off cuz the story.
Just a theory but I don't think Bowser Jr has a mother. Bowser is a powerful magic user so who's to say he didn't create his own son using magic? What better heir than a literal clone of yourself?
I believe the Koopalings were basically ret-gone in the n64 era, a little like most of the Super Mario Bros 1 lore (like the Koopa tribe being known for their black magic, their black magic that helped them to turn the mushroom people into stones, bricks, and horse-hair plants, Peach getting kidnapped because she is the only one who can undo the spell...). Because Bowser Jr got introduced when the Koopalings weren't supposed to reappear ever again outside of the Super Mario Bros 3 and World ports, he became the heir. Meanwhile, Bowser went from a villain as terrifying as a demon to a much friendlier villain (Character development?). When the Koopalings finally reappeared in the first Mario & Luigi game and then in New Super Mario Bros Wii, Nintendo couldn't retcon Bowser Jr's relationship with Bowser. So instead, they just work for Bowser, no family ties. Anything we learn outside of the games themselves can get retconned.
Nah the only retcon in Mario is the Koopalings being Bowser's kids. The Koopa Kingdom being known for their black magic wasn't retconned whatsoever, Bowser still uses magic on multiple occasions throughout the games such as in Mario Odyssey where he summons boulders, clones his hat and creates a shield around him when Mario goes to attack him, or in Mario Galaxy where Bowser teleports away after losing, plus in the Mario party games Bowser uses magic every 7 minutes. And how do you think Dry Bones exist? Also Bowser wasn't a demonic villain- He didn't even speak yet in the games, he couldn't be demonic if he didn't have any personality back in the day lol. He just LOOKED demonic. But the first time he does speak and show a personality, in Mario 64, the way he speaks in that game shows he's the same Bowser as in the RPG games. He wasn't demonic, he just didn't have any personality yet and looked evil.
I believe Bowser Junior used his Shadow Mario disguise to trick E Gadd into giving him the paintbrush. Bower Junior more than likely doesn't have a mother. I have a hypothesis that when Bowser got ahold of the Star Rod he wished for a son. Skip several months later and a stork arrives with a Koopa egg. This would explain why Bowser Junior looks identical to Baby Bowser as well. The Koopalings are not Bowser's Kids obviously, but in addition they are too old to be his children. We know Mario is in his 20s and Bowser is only slightly older. Well the it's established Roy is old enough to attend night classes making him an adult. Also, when I'm posting this. "We won't be seeing another Mario and Luigi game for awhile." Nintendo be like....
A detail that goes over people's heads is that we KNOW the name of the Koopalings's father. His name is Morton Koopa Sr. because one of them is named Morton Koopa Jr.
I agree with the whole adoption thing other people seem to be going with, perhaps future generals if Jr. is the future king. Can't wait for the eventual Dry Bones video!
I still think Bowser Jr. was a bad idea for a character and is vastly overused, him overshadowing and effectively replacing seven versatile and variant looking minibosses is even worse. Sure they can be adopted since Bowser's never shown with a wife, but they can't just suddenly _not_ be his kids!
The Koopalings should be the children of a Koopa Lady whom Bowser dated in the 90's. They have since broken up, perhaps driven by Bowser's pursuit of Princess Peach. The actual baby daddy of the Koopalings would be a "semi-employed" DJ/guitar player, hence why most named after musicians.
If that was the case,the Koopalings wouldn't call Bowser "lord".. It's sad, but the Koopalings simply aren't Bowser's kids. Maybe they're kids Bowser adopted to train as MINIONS in his army, but the way he treats them in paper jam and Jr Journey shows they aren't his kids to him. If Bowser saw them as his kids he wouldn't have punched Iggy in Jr Journey for example.
The problem is that the idea of Bowser being their dad falls appart when You see how well he treats Jr and compare it to how he treats them. There hasn't been any kind of development as Sunshine had for them two with the Koopalings.
I always considered the Koopalings as just eccentric boombooms who got into favor with Bowser after acting as his kids for the Super Mario Bros. 3 stage play Like am I really the only person to connect the lines this way? That they're Bowser's "kids" in the third game because it was a stage play and we can chalk it up to eccentric storywriting on whoever Mushroom Kingdom citizen wrote the play? Like "Jeff-Toad, you know what would prolong this stage play instead of captured toads? WHAT IF, Bowser had kids-- and they're there to help stop Mario from saving the princess! GENIUS!"
It's possible that the Koopalings were either adopted or foster children. Every time we see Bowser & his son, they never speak of the mother, the REAL mother that is. NEVER EVER!
Since it is known from the line stamp that bowser jr and koopalings will be on the same table I wonder if it's the difference between the adopted child and the real child Also, there's a lot of idiots arguing about which of the koopalings and bowser jr is bowser's kid, but I feel that they're both bowser's kids, and even if they're not blood related, they have a strong bond.
![BOWKYLION - วิงวอน (ex-change) [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLdnZWDaO-w/mqdefault.jpg)
Show some love to our new editor, Alex - youtube.com/@TheLateHoursYT
Just subscribed to his channel, I'll go check it out after this :D
@damiencouturee6240 you are truly the best! 🙏
If you make a video about Hotel Mario, there's a bunch of things to talk about. At least for an introductory video, it'd be best to just talk about the game itself, rather than its legacy, which could be a whole video in and of itself.
no offense to Alex, but your Editing for your videos is much better. You add funny memes and skits more in your older videos. Hopefully Alex gains that more comedic timing or maybe you could help him out with it
I wouldn't consider myself a Paper Mario purest Cuz I love all the Mario games ( especially Paper Mario games
🤞🏻hopefully there'll be a Paper Mario of certain characters analysis video video )
Bowser is maybe the villain who becomes the embodiment of video game boss battles and a foil to Mario as a player, but he's also the most wholesome and loving dad to Bowser Jr.
As Mario’s foil that means Mario is an abusive and hateful father, thank god he doesn’t have kids
@@poopa_stinka Boy, here goes the "Mario is evil" shtick again.
He’s also kind towards the Koopalings
@@poopa_stinkaI mean look at how he treats Yoshi that he raises from eggs
Extra detail: In Paper Jam, the Koopalings question if paper versions exist, to which Wendy responds with them being busy. So technically, the existence of the Paper Koopalings were foreshadowed almost a whole year before they debuted in Color Splash.
I think it's also worth mentioning that Larry Koopa was actually referenced in one of Francis' rooms in 'Super Paper Mario'
I still like to think Bowser took the Koopalings in and taught them evil when their original parents disappeared, preparing them to one day be the skilled generals of Jr's army when he grows enough to take over. The kids are basically his future plan to make sure all his Koopa stuff is in good hands after he passes.
Bowser can live as a undead skeleton, I don't think he's gonna die from old age lol. He's probably just gonna make Jr the king himself when he gets older.
I think Koopalings are just children that Bowser had with random servants. Bowser Jr. mom was probably a girl that Bowser actually cared about. Maybe she actually had royal blood in her.
I like the theory that they’re actually his nephews/niece. Apparently bowser had a brother who was in the lost levels game, and canonically did not survive, so he took them in as his own.
@@Hi-fd4cw It was never said that Bowser's brother canonically did not survive and it is most definitely not true since Koopas can't die, they turn into dry bones and then can get their skin and flesh revived by a potion.
@@cbfranco3307 Where does it say koopas can’t die? I don’t think that’s true at all
You should have went more in detail on the personal relationships Bowser Jr. developed with each Koopaling. How Morton is his best friend, how Ludwig always believed in Jr.'s potential, how Iggy just vibes, etc.
Where does this info come from? I’m very curious
@@boltindie9011 Bowser Jr Journey. Tho I'm not too sure about the Ludwig thing,believing in Jr was more Kamek's thing in that game.
It's one thing to not make the Koopalings Bowser's kids, but reducing their relationship strictly to being loyal minions is really lame to me. I feel they could've kept that familial bond between them without any blood ties like how Kamek is his right-hand man and father figure. I wish the Koopalings could've at least gotten new backstories along with the retcon to explain their connection, cause right now I'm left to assume that one of Bowser's highest ranking minions are a bunch of random kids he found.
I don’t think they lost that bond, especially with the Mario and Luigi Games
I felt the same way after playing Paper Jam. I didn't know why Bowser was treating them like minions at the time. I didn't know they retconed their relationship before playing, so I was hurt when I found out.
They should just remain his children and Bowser Jr would be Bowser's favorite. The retcon is dumb and unnecessary
@@Hamantha It's actually those games that reaffirm my problem because in those entries they refer to Bowser and Junior with titles like 'Lord' and 'Master'. And Bowser not showing as much care when they get harmed or lose.
@@20signup you’re saying Bowser WOULDN’T have favorites and BJR WOULDN’T make them refer to him as such because he knows he’s the favorite? lol /hj
Jr is biological son and the Koopalings are adopted, in my head at least.
Boom Boom and Pom Pom seem to be the same species as the Koopalings but lack the adopted family part.
Too bad there's no official name for Bowser's subspecies.
Personally I call them "Bull Koopas" since Bowser is based on the Ox-King from Journey to the West.
If the koopalings were adopted Bowser Jr wouldn't be an only child, because adopted children are still your children.
Also, @MexicanDragon2000 I think Bowser is just a Koopa kinda like how Ganondorf is a Gerudo. Then if Boom Boom is an entirely seperate species in itself then the Koopalings could belong to the Boom Boom species. Lockskin/Gnoggin made a theory about that.
Bowser, the Koopalings, Boom Boom, Pom Pom, Kamek, etc, all of them are the same species, they are all Koopas
@@jvbon646 The thing about that is Boom Boom and Pom Pom don't look like Koopas at all, comparing them to Bowser, Kamek, Lakitu they all have similarities that Boom Boom and Pom Pom lack, then looking at the Koopalings they seem to be closer to how Boom Boom looks than the Koopas.
I think Bowser, Bowser Jr., the Koopalings, Boom Boom and Pom Pom are a certain genus of koopa that makes them superior to other koopas because they have unique features that no other koopas have. I like to call them Super Koopas.
Ludwig's name is on the piano that Bowser plays in the movie, so it's fair to assume he and the other Koopalings exist in the movie universe. Maybe they'll show up in the sequel, it'll be less confusing than Bowser Jr showing up and having to explain why he's here without mentioning his mom. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.
I may be alone, but I always enjoy it when the Koopalings show up. They're some of my mains in Mario Kart 8 (but not anymore since they added Petey and Kamek) and I like their New Super Mario Bros boss fights. Roy's my favourite, followed by Larry, Iggy and Morton.
Bowser Jr's pretty good too. My headcanon is that Bowser Jr is Bowser's real son, and the Koopalings are cousins who are about junior's age.
The Japanese SMB2/the Lost Levels featured a blue Bowser that has been referred to as Bowser's brother by official sources, although the canonicity of this has always been up in the air
This used to be the popular opinion until New Super Mario Bros. Wii, since which they’ve been extremely over-utilized by Nintendo. People grew tired of them because they were cheap placeholders for bosses or, in the case of Mario Kart 8, playable characters. They wouldn’t be hated in MK8 if they were mere variations of Bowser Jr., instead of filling 7 character spots.
@@ninjoshday
That was a "Fake Bowser"
The "Bowser's Brother" thing was retconned long ago, the same way the Koopalings changed from Bowser's sons to just an elite squad
@@20000dino they literally cannot be variations of bjr because of how character animations work in the game lol. it didn't really work in SSBU either, your anger should be redirected at how many mario/peach reskins there are & how many "baby" characters there are, of which there are way more than the koopalings
Given the name Koopalings It's likely that they are actual siblings within the group. It could also mean they just have a strong familial bond with each other and probably with Bowser and Bowser Jr.
My headcannon is that bowser is the koopalings uncle
If the lost levels is cannon that is
Bowsers blue brother, bruce could be the koopalings father.
they're his kids. the retcon is dumb
@@animal1nstinct394 That's how I always think of it. That and the "Mario isn't a Plumber" thing are just dumb retcons that don't deserve to be acknowledged.
@@animal1nstinct394
No, they're not.
Bowser Jr is the Heir to the Koopa throne
@@shupasopni
Mario being wasn't ever retconned
He just doesn't do it anymore
Oh boy, I love Bowser, Kamek and the Koopalings. To me, there's just something so badass about Nintendo's take on the spikey, scaly "dragon" aesthetic
Bowser and Dr Doofamitz are proof that just because your the main villain does not necessarily mean you have to be a bad dad
Shame you never brought up Iggy's drastic redesign from NSMBWii where he went from being Lemmy's twin to the absolute lankmeister we have now.
Always fascinating to see how lore changes over time. Maybe Bowser disowned the Koopalings cause they failed him or something, just like how Yoshi is from another marriage he doesn't talk about.
In my canon they are his adopted children and not his biological children like Jr is.
I hate that I know what you're talking about with the Yoshi thing, this fanbase really getting bodied by Game theory
@@MagillanicaLouM I forgot about that lol, but to be fair, we didn't need game theory to see similarities
I find it weird that with the Bowser Jr mother question that nobody talks about how basically everyone was brought by a stork like from yoshi island
In the Super Mario animated series, the koopalings were bowser’s kids, and Wendy is daddy’s little girl. As a newly father who has a 9 month year-old daughter, That’ll always be cannon in my heart.
I remember that me and my little brother used to be OBSESSED with the Koopalings. I faintly remember us making our own story about their backstory. If my tiny brain serves me right, their original parents died in a fire, in which Ludwig as the eldest, took it upon himself to get his younger siblings to safety. Later, Bowser adopted them.
Well, we do still see them as Bowser's kids, just adopted, but to fit with actual lore, they grew up to rather respect Bowser as a boss rather than a father. Who knows, perhaps they internally think Bowser as a father.
i miss the old days
Given Japan didn't name the Koopalings, way back when I was a kid, my dad gave them names based on their appearances he thought were fitting, also based on singers:
Ludwig, fittingly, was Beethoven because of his hair, but with van instead of von, also because ELO's song Roll Over Beethoven.
Lemmy Koopa was Willie, after Willie Nelson.
Roy was Buddy, after Buddy Holly.
Iggy was Waylon, after Waylon Jennings.
Wendy was Tammy, after Tammy Wynette.
Morton was Hank, after Hank Williams Senior and Junior, fitting, given Morton's later name.
Larry was Dave, after David Allan Coe.
Yeah, we're country folks.
As a Koopaling fan, while I can agree they are definitely not biological to Bowser. I could theorize they are adopted considering Jr’s relation. In fact, I have hopes that the second Mario movie could potentially establish the Koopaling’s origins
Yeeeeaaah I thing adopted children are not gonna call their dad "lord" lol. My headcanon is Bowser made a random orphanage with hundreds of kids, so he and his troops could train them to become members of his army. That'd explain not only the Koopalings but also the Koopa Kids. And I also think General Guy from paper Mario is probably a kid as well- the dude calls Mario "sir" and "meanie" and says he's cheating when he loses, PLUS he drives a TOY TANK and lives in a magical TOY BOX. So yeah my headcanon is just that Bowser trained kids in a orphanage in his kingdom, and the Koopalings are the most successful of them.
Honestly, even though I grew up in the era of Mario Jr was introduced in, I quickly ended up liking the other Koopalings more. Since I sucked at Sunshine ivnever got far enough for Jrs reveal (also i never owned the game myself, only played on older relatives' GameCubes). But I did own the original Mario and Luigi superstar saga which has the Koopalings as end game bosses with Jr no where in sight. So I just was more attached to them for the concept of "Bowser's kids" and eventually finding out they came first anyway, I just saw it as "oh so there's 8 koopalings, Jr just came later". But these days I see this disdain for the 7 OG children from some of the mario fandom, especially after Miyamoto's retcon, and it's just confusing considering they have more of a legacy in the franchise than Jr does. And it's not like they're obscure no names Nintendo just shoe horns recently as deep cuts, everyone and their mom and her mom have played SMB3, SMW, they're prominent in the old cartoons and comics, and they're resurgence is nearing 20 years ago as much as it pains me to say lol. These aren't no names, they've long been series juggernauts. Personal favs are Ludwig, Wendy and Roy.
Rant aside, at this point I do wonder if the Koopalings are even related to EACH OTHER now lol. Gonna have to get a whole bunch of Koopas on Maury at this rate.
I also grew up loving the koopalings to the point that they inspire me to make my own game with my own koopalings called the "Dragonlings". But do you know that Bowser has a brother so my Theory that something happened to his brother that's why he adopted Koopalings so that means Bowser Jr and the Koopalings cannot be related as brothers and sisters but as cousin. I want to hear your answer on that. do you think it's true?
@@TheDrake-Dog-4273 I think it's a cool theory, just personally don't think the "Bowser's brother" thing will ever be acknowledged ever again officially. But still a nice idea
Yeah. I only got introduced to The Koopalings in Super Mario Bros. 3, except I didn't know who they are and never know their names until I got older.
I'm one of the few people who actually wants to see The Koopalings return in Mario Wonder, but only if they have more unique boss fights. Don't just stop at Lemmy having circus balls and Wendy tossing hoop rings, give every Koopa Kid their own identity and help them stand out from each other. I would personally love to see Ludwig fight with the Infamous Fanged Piano from Mario 64 since he's named after a famous piano player.
Well i mean the balls and rings help make them stand out but yeah, go ham with it. Hell, pair koopalings and jr up so there's room for other bossea too.
. . . Now that I played Wonder, I can safely say it needed more Boss Variety. 😔
Bro it's just Bowser Jr, Bowser Jr, Bowser Jr and Bowser Jr
And a cool Bowser fight
My personal headcanon, as Morton’s full name is Morton Koopa Jr., is that Bowser had a brother, Morton Koopa Sr., and adopted all of his kids after his death.
Mario killed morton "bruce" in the lost levels
Maybe bowser is avanging his bro's death
My headcannon is that the Koopalings are the children of Bowser's brother, a character briefly mentioned as the antagonist of The Lost Levels. It's definitely possible that Mario successfully killed Bowser's brother for good (pun intended), and Bowser kind of semi-adopted them in the events following. They then attacked Mario in more of the early games as a bid for revenge, but since they always failed, Bowser stopped humoring them. However, they together climbed the ranks of Bowser's army legitimately, which is why they reappeared later in the New Super Mario Bros. series. Due to both the new power dynamic and the collective grief of the family, Bowser would go on to treat them in a more formal manner as minions. They're clearly still given special treatment, though, since they would get full-blown world castles in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, while Kamek, a much higher-ranked and longer-serving officer only got mini castles (albeit multiple).
14:37 BOWSER’S KOOPALINGS CAMEO!! 💯💯
I really think Bowser Jr has grown the most in Bowser Jr’s Journey. That scene where he starts shedding tears, remembering how harshly he treated the Koopalings despite they best efforts to please them was truly heartbreaking.
I saw a piece on DeviantArt that proposed the idea of a single Koopa mating with different spouses at different times, being the ancestors of the various Koopalings, making them distant relatives instead of direct siblings.
There probably isn't a momma. Maybe Jr. and the koopalings were just dumped on Bowser's castle by the stork.
The Koopalings are Bowser's kids, but Jr. is heir to the throne. You cannot change my mind.
But he’s like the youngest so how would he be the heir to the throne?realistically he is only considered bowsers kid cuz he is identical to bowser and the others are not.
@@princebealalthe3rd732 There are many cases in the Bible of the youngest getting the birthright. So the notion is not unprecedented. Perhaps the koopalings failures to stop Mario cost them or maybe it is pure and simple favoritism.
The Koopalings aren't Bowser's kids
Not in the games at the very least
@@shelbybayer200 But the Koopalings are Bowser's kids... in older games still 13:57
I like how he acknowledged the TH-cam series Bowser's Children. I used to watch that all the time, and it's what I know the Koopalings best from.
Are they related by blood? No. But in my headcanon, Junior does view the koopalings as his adopted siblings.
I am just really hoping that Bowser Jr and the Koopalings could appear in the sequel of the Super Mario Bros Movie.
I imagine the same, plus it would be good to see that at the end Bowser Jr and the Koopalings face off against Mario and Luigi's family and at the end of their defeat it can be seen in the post-credits that this bowser says:
Bowser: my little ones I have something difficult to tell you about Peaches and Daisy
Junior: we already know Peaches is not our mom
Iggy: and Daisy didn't want to be our Mama either.
with Bowser crying to forgive him for lying to them
Ludwing: But you know, dad, she doesn't have our qualities that we get from you, she's not smart.
Wendy: She's not pretty.
Roy: It's not strong
Lemmy: She's not charismatic
Larry: It's not amazing.
(All To Encourage His Father)
Morton: But for daddy one thing we promise is that when we grow up
Koopalings: we will face Mario and His Family again
Bowser: Well said my children
GOTTA say: I love the running gag of you giving the series an accented flourish, with you calling it *Soopah Mahdio Bahzahs"* LOL!
Also MAJOR KUDOS to Alex for guessing all but TWO of the Koopa kids' names, without googling! Mad respect, sir! And, of course, to our prophet, AS WELL!!
14:37 FreezeFlame22's Bowser Koopalings series!
Bowser in the second Mario movie: “those are my kids… they live with their mother, I don’t have custody because ‘being an awesome overlord’ isn’t a good environment to raise kids.”
Great video! I'd like to think of the Koopalings being adopted by Bowser in my head cannon. Also congrats on finding a great editor, these videos are so well done!
They'll always be Bowsers adopted children and Bowser Jr's siblings to me. ❤
My personal headcanon is that Bower Jr is a perfect clone of Bowser while the Koopalings are imperfect clones.
Same. They're turtles, so the're all born abandoned on a beach. There Kameks must experiment on them and 99 times of 100 they just end up with a Shy Guy, Birdo, or Spike.
I still love how Mario couldn’t prove the paint was on the ground WHILE HE WAS ON THE PLANE
I would love it if Nintendo included the Koopalings in the next Movie. They hold a spcial place in my childhood memories.
Mentok! My top Twitch Streamer watched your vid on Thursday during our chill stream and Im glad I tuned in to see your DK origins. Happy for some new content to watch
Gotta say, I much prefer the Koopalings to Bowser Jr. In particular, Roy is too damn cool.
A Turle can lay more then 8 eggs so Bowser having 8 kids isnt that far fetch . I like to view Bowser jr as the Koopalins Baby brother
"But admittedly, I mix up Larry and Lemmy all the time"
3 seconds after mixing up Larry and Iggy
I think that Illumination in the sequel is going to say that they are going to be his children (reference to the original series) and I'm sure that they will say that Junior and the Koopalings only want to impress their dad and bowser. I imagine that in one scene Kamek tells him that he found the drawings that Junior and Lemy made, for example, one where they end up with Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad, one where it is seen that they want to see who they want from Mother to Peach or Daisy but I think what would be touching is that together they make a drawing for Bowser of all of them calling themselves a Happy Family
Bowser Jr’s Journey have so much needed love to the Koopalings and Bowser Jr and has them at their best
YESSS, PLEASE DO A VDEO OF HOTEL MARIO. More over the fact of its history and why it was made the way it is. It would be so awesome. It would be so cool.
A friend pointed me here and said "there's Bowser Jr. hate, typical Koopaling fans" and I don't know what to do with this information or tell him how to get over it.
Thank you for struggling through Nintendo and their indecisiveness. Also congrats on an editor
Thank you so much for having me on board. This was such a fantastic video to be a part of! Can't wait to make more! 🎉 -Alex
great video! just earned yourself a new subscriber :) shout out alex for the editing too!
Thank you mi amigo, glad you enjoyed! -Alex
My boy mentok saying “tell me if you want content” my brother in Christ id watch you talk about paint drying! Yes I wanna hear about hotel Mario!
Given that Super Mario Brothers 3 is a fictional stage play, it’s entirely possible that the Koopalings are bowsers kids in the play, but in the real world they are just high ranking koopa troops that bowser hired to become actors in the play and were “canonically” never bowsers family.
If this is canon, it makes me so sad.
Is everyone not going to question the fact that Bowser Junior's paintbrush that seems to have the ability to make anything that gets painted black going from massive fit of rage was made by Egad? Which makes me wonder, what was Egad's original intention with this brush?
My favorite thing about the video is how he says "Super Mario Braaathas"
For a while, I honestly just assumed Bowser. Jr was a duplicate of Bowser that he magicked up.
Every time he says “BRAZZAZ” I get the ick😒
Like it was funny for the first time, but it really gets annoying.
This!! I can’t tell if it’s supposed to be a running bit or what and ran to the comments trying to figure it out. As a new viewer, not a fan 🫠
Mu headcannon is that Bowser straight up disowned the Koopalings after their constant failures
That would be out of character and is also insulting to Bowser lol. Bowser is evil but he is nowhere near that evil.
@@cbfranco3307maybe in the cartoons
The way I explain it to myself is that Bowser’s species of Koopa is now very rare. They live long, but there are very few left. (What did you think all those mushrooms were growing on? They feed on decay…) Therefore, when Bowser discovers any Koopas like him, he feels obliged to house them. And Bowser Jr.‘s mom died or something. Maybe he had a nasty divorce, so he’s back to pursuing his childhood crush on Peach. I don’t like the idea of “headcanons” though, I don’t think of it like that. It’s just the only way Jr, the Koopalings, Boom Boom, and Pom Pom make sense together to me. And Bowser’s Brother I guess.
The Koopas black magic absolutely debunks that theory tho, they can live as undead skeletons and revive said undead skeletons into flesh beings using a potion, so I'd say it's very unlikely they've died and if they did they can easily bring their dead ones back.
My headcanon is just that Bowser adopted a whole orphanage to train the orphans to be soldiers in his troops. That'd not only explain the Koopalings, but also the Koopa Kids from the Mario party games.
As for Bowser Jr? My headcanon is that Bowser Jr is a product of the Star Rod from paper Mario 1, Bowser simply wished on the star rod to have a biological son.
Congrats on getting an editor.
Lol the old Koopalings look so goofy
There was a few details you missed. You were talking about non main Mario titles featuring the Koopalings and you mentioned Yoshi's Safari and Hotel Mario. However you forgot Mario is Missing; which is also Luigi's FIRST solo game predating Luigi's Mansion. Also to my knowledge the Koopalings originally got their names from the combination of Koopa and hatchlings; implying they're Bowser children. They were referred to as his children in Super Mario Bros 3(game and cartoon series), Super Mario World, and; the one you missed, Super Smash Bros Melee; I'm assuming that was the LAST time they were referred to as Bowser's children. Later as Koopalings their name make up got changed as a combination of the words Koopa and siblings; implying that although they are NOT Bowser's children, they are all related. Finally their name sakes of Koopalings got changed for a final time as it currently is a combination of the words Koopa and underlings; implying they just work for Bowser, but aren't his children. Also it's rumored Bowser Jr. is based off of Koopa Kid from the Mario Party series. After Mario Party 3 this character was replaced by Bowser Jr in all future projects; including remakes of older versions because Bower Jr didn't exist yet. Oh and I think Bowser Jr in Mario and Luigi PIT was an older version of Baby Bowser and NOT Bowser Jr, but who knows. Sorry that was a lot. Anyway I did enjoy the video and look forward to more content. Congrats on your editor and keep up the good work. 👍
I don't love how flip floppy Nintendo is on lore.... Even though they treat fanworks like religious heretic dissent
Nintendo keeps changing their minds on things.
I liked the story of the origami king, but the boss battles can get frustrating if you’re just wanting to breeze through. My brother said it’s the worst Mario he’s played and didn’t even finish it hahah. I thought the frustration paid off cuz the story.
welcome Alex the editor :)
Ayy thanks happy to be here! - Alex
Just a theory but I don't think Bowser Jr has a mother. Bowser is a powerful magic user so who's to say he didn't create his own son using magic? What better heir than a literal clone of yourself?
Ok after watching some of your vids, you are now one of my favorite Mario youtubers.
I believe the Koopalings were basically ret-gone in the n64 era, a little like most of the Super Mario Bros 1 lore (like the Koopa tribe being known for their black magic, their black magic that helped them to turn the mushroom people into stones, bricks, and horse-hair plants, Peach getting kidnapped because she is the only one who can undo the spell...). Because Bowser Jr got introduced when the Koopalings weren't supposed to reappear ever again outside of the Super Mario Bros 3 and World ports, he became the heir. Meanwhile, Bowser went from a villain as terrifying as a demon to a much friendlier villain (Character development?).
When the Koopalings finally reappeared in the first Mario & Luigi game and then in New Super Mario Bros Wii, Nintendo couldn't retcon Bowser Jr's relationship with Bowser. So instead, they just work for Bowser, no family ties. Anything we learn outside of the games themselves can get retconned.
Nah the only retcon in Mario is the Koopalings being Bowser's kids. The Koopa Kingdom being known for their black magic wasn't retconned whatsoever, Bowser still uses magic on multiple occasions throughout the games such as in Mario Odyssey where he summons boulders, clones his hat and creates a shield around him when Mario goes to attack him, or in Mario Galaxy where Bowser teleports away after losing, plus in the Mario party games Bowser uses magic every 7 minutes. And how do you think Dry Bones exist? Also Bowser wasn't a demonic villain- He didn't even speak yet in the games, he couldn't be demonic if he didn't have any personality back in the day lol. He just LOOKED demonic. But the first time he does speak and show a personality, in Mario 64, the way he speaks in that game shows he's the same Bowser as in the RPG games. He wasn't demonic, he just didn't have any personality yet and looked evil.
Good to have you back Mentok.
Great choice of topic and for Nintendo to use them?
Well the next mario movie and Super Mario Bros Wonder as bosses.
I believe Bowser Junior used his Shadow Mario disguise to trick E Gadd into giving him the paintbrush.
Bower Junior more than likely doesn't have a mother. I have a hypothesis that when Bowser got ahold of the Star Rod he wished for a son. Skip several months later and a stork arrives with a Koopa egg. This would explain why Bowser Junior looks identical to Baby Bowser as well.
The Koopalings are not Bowser's Kids obviously, but in addition they are too old to be his children. We know Mario is in his 20s and Bowser is only slightly older. Well the it's established Roy is old enough to attend night classes making him an adult.
Also, when I'm posting this. "We won't be seeing another Mario and Luigi game for awhile." Nintendo be like....
I’ve never seen anyone come up with that theory, that’s really cool
@@user-jm6cl6fj1l I've come across a few other that have come up with a similar hypothesis just lacking some of the details I present forth.
What does Bowsers age have to do with anything Bower might be in his mid 20s thats enough to have kids plus turtles often Lay many eggs .
Keep doing amazing work. Every time you say “Super Mario brothers” the way you do brings so much joy
I see the Koopalings as being Bowser's niece and nephews. The children of an unknown sibling of Bowser...
Bowser has a brother named Bruce. He's in Mario 2 Japanese.
@@Heymrk I forgot about that bit of lore... Well, I'm going to assume that the Koopalings are Bruce's kids. 🤣
I guess their father must be Morton Koopa Sr.
If the Koopalings are related to Bowser my guess is that they are children from Bowser's brother-in-law.
@@KasumiKenshiroubowsers brother's full name can be morton bruce senior for all we know
A detail that goes over people's heads is that we KNOW the name of the Koopalings's father. His name is Morton Koopa Sr. because one of them is named Morton Koopa Jr.
Excellent video and it's interesting that they're minions now. I guess it makes more sense and I'm fine with it.
I choose which retcons I accept and they’re all still his children except Morton Koopa Jr in my head canon is adopted
I agree with the whole adoption thing other people seem to be going with, perhaps future generals if Jr. is the future king.
Can't wait for the eventual Dry Bones video!
Ayyeee a new editor?! Noice! Welcome Alex!
Ayy glad to be here! :) -Alex
Woah cool, brand new video! Love the stuff mentok, thanks for all the great videos!
19:51 well, about that...
I still think Bowser Jr. was a bad idea for a character and is vastly overused, him overshadowing and effectively replacing seven versatile and variant looking minibosses is even worse. Sure they can be adopted since Bowser's never shown with a wife, but they can't just suddenly _not_ be his kids!
The Koopalings should be the children of a Koopa Lady whom Bowser dated in the 90's. They have since broken up, perhaps driven by Bowser's pursuit of Princess Peach. The actual baby daddy of the Koopalings would be a "semi-employed" DJ/guitar player, hence why most named after musicians.
If that was the case,the Koopalings wouldn't call Bowser "lord"..
It's sad, but the Koopalings simply aren't Bowser's kids. Maybe they're kids Bowser adopted to train as MINIONS in his army, but the way he treats them in paper jam and Jr Journey shows they aren't his kids to him. If Bowser saw them as his kids he wouldn't have punched Iggy in Jr Journey for example.
Even if the koopalings aren’t his biological children, I always consider them adopted. He treats them like his own children.
The commitment to saying Mario Burazas sends me. I love it. I subscribed as soon as you said you would do it and it’s why I stay.
The problem is that the idea of Bowser being their dad falls appart when You see how well he treats Jr and compare it to how he treats them. There hasn't been any kind of development as Sunshine had for them two with the Koopalings.
I've always thought of the koopalings as almost adopted in a way so Bowser could raise them to help run his armies
This lore is so cool. I would honestly love to see the movies implement this somehow.
Id like to think that the existence of Koopalings implies Bowser has brothers and sisters and the koopalings are their children.
I always considered the Koopalings as just eccentric boombooms who got into favor with Bowser after acting as his kids for the Super Mario Bros. 3 stage play
Like am I really the only person to connect the lines this way?
That they're Bowser's "kids" in the third game because it was a stage play and we can chalk it up to eccentric storywriting on whoever Mushroom Kingdom citizen wrote the play?
Like "Jeff-Toad, you know what would prolong this stage play instead of captured toads? WHAT IF, Bowser had kids-- and they're there to help stop Mario from saving the princess! GENIUS!"
Personally, I don’t think E. Gadd gave Jr. the paintbrush. I believe Jr. STOLE it and claimed E. Gadd GAVE it to him, when he really didn’t.
10:03
that’s iggy.
It’s funny how you say you mix up Larry and Lemmy all the time, but you mixed up Larry and Iggy this time. This is a great video!
Welcome Alex, I am Alex.
Also, shoutout to you for continuing the Supa Mario Burasazu bit.
Boom Boom and Pom Pom seem to be the same species as the Koopalings but lack the adopted family part.
It's possible that the Koopalings were either adopted or foster children. Every time we see Bowser & his son, they never speak of the mother, the REAL mother that is. NEVER EVER!
I think the Koopalings are Bowser's adopted children while Jr is his biological child. This is definitely wrong but idc.
Ludwig was lucky to get an Easter egg in the movie with his name on Bowser's piano in the music scenes
I have the theory the Koopalings were adopted by Bowser
Well until mario and luigi brother ship
Since it is known from the line stamp that bowser jr and koopalings will be on the same table I wonder if it's the difference between the adopted child and the real child
Also, there's a lot of idiots arguing about which of the koopalings and bowser jr is bowser's kid, but I feel that they're both bowser's kids, and even if they're not blood related, they have a strong bond.
It might be fun if the antagonist of that Princess Peach game that was announced ends up being Bowser's ex-wife and Bowser, Jr.'s mother!
My headcanon is the Koopalings are still Big Bowser's babies alongside Jr. 😭