Faster Follow-Up Shots | Competitive Shooting Tips with Doug Koenig

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  • @stealthisdkey
    @stealthisdkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do you have any video shooting a self defence gun, with higher grain loads? I would love to see the difference between recoil and grip control!

  • @TheYakkis
    @TheYakkis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I could watch that gun cycle for hours. It's perfectly tuned.

  • @supertrooper7403
    @supertrooper7403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    1:52 was perfect timing

  • @valkry007
    @valkry007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    wish guys would demonstrate these tips/drills with a stock everyday carry type gun with iron sights instead of these factory tricked out compensated red dot race guns.

    • @LibertySpam
      @LibertySpam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      #fundamentals

    • @littlemog92
      @littlemog92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look up the 1990 uspsa nationals. This man lived through an era where all they had were iron sights 1911s and he would have seen comps, .38supercomp, Tasco dots, double stack 2011s. And other technology we take for granted now develop. If you tinker with 1911s even a little you recognize his last name.

    • @stevenbrown5438
      @stevenbrown5438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s the exact same thing 🤣

    • @ddazzla27
      @ddazzla27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i agree you never see it on iron sighted stock guns

    • @isidrosevier1125
      @isidrosevier1125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@___meph___4547 concealed carry is a competition too, who is going to die first me or them?

  • @beanieteamie7435
    @beanieteamie7435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:50 holy the sync on that.

  • @ksbarrett3
    @ksbarrett3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For all these people bitching about how he has a gun worth thousands or having a "pistol that is so smooth and refined it has a lot less muzzle rise, slide mass and spring tension of a stock pistol" blah blah blah.
    Take a minute and read the title of the video. Go ahead, I'll wait.
    Ohhhh shit. It says "Competitive Shooting Tips". It doesn't say "tactical tips for your defensive carry. It doesn't say "shoot faster with defensive ammo." No- it says Competitive Shooting Tips.

    • @asphalt-cowboy9479
      @asphalt-cowboy9479 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Barrett the gun he uses is fuckin bad tho lol when he racked it i was like omg it sounded absolutely perfect

    • @beachboardfan9544
      @beachboardfan9544 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooooo yea mechanical interactions that smooth... 🍆

    • @CramcrumBrewbringer
      @CramcrumBrewbringer ปีที่แล้ว

      It says Faster follow up shots first though retard.

    • @ksbarrett3
      @ksbarrett3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CramcrumBrewbringer yeah, followed by “Competitive shooting tips” 😂😂.
      I love the fact that you called me a retard like you’re 12 years old, and you were wrong 😂😂😂

  • @jamiesloan5902
    @jamiesloan5902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent information. I've never heard it explained this way. I use a finger around the trigger guard grip, because I have much more leverage, and control over recoil, while mainly just using my support hand, for grip "strength". This allows my strong hand to stay relaxed, and let's my trigger finger be more fluid. But, what you're describing is to allow the gun to kinda do its thing, so it will recoil consistently straight up, and straight back down. I've got to experiment with this now. Thanks, man. I completely understand what you're saying.

  • @wheezzl
    @wheezzl 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! So you don't recommend having more tension in your support hand than in the strong hand? That's what I've always heard so far to avoid trigger jerking.

  • @jeffreyblackman5430
    @jeffreyblackman5430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips. I was especially focused on your comment about grip pressure. Makes sense now.

  • @showoffyoureverydaycarry4016
    @showoffyoureverydaycarry4016 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I need to do a range session where I focus on tracking my dot in recoil. I keep hearing this. Thanks!

    • @cdclarks1
      @cdclarks1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would recommend having a painted line or 2x4 that you can easily tell if your pulling left or right, also could record yourself with a GoPro or something.

  • @swiftaudi
    @swiftaudi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here I am six years later stuffed with pizza watching this to help improve. Two weeks ago I was watching this channel for some long range rifle tips. Some really top level fuss on this channel to learn from how did Todd not take off.

  • @genin69
    @genin69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Wonder if these guys realize that a perfectly weighted race gun gives you about 15% advantage.. which is not much.. technique is still koenig

    • @CR-ou4hl
      @CR-ou4hl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree

    • @pnwrob7041
      @pnwrob7041 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'm glad somebody jumped in and said it. Could be a 10k gun, not going to be effective without the fundamentals.

    • @stevehardy7584
      @stevehardy7584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't that what he was talking about - having a good technique? I didn't hear him mention the gun once.

    • @martinszoke8558
      @martinszoke8558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rusty Shackleford nice to know rutsy you know what everyone else thinks must help you on the range a lot.....

    • @martinszoke8558
      @martinszoke8558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rusty Shackleford if you're calling it out, where you see it, you must be looking in the mirror....

  • @BeardedBaldGuy87
    @BeardedBaldGuy87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    also helps to have a perfectly weighted gun..

    • @HuntEthical
      @HuntEthical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It helps, but you still probably wouldn't shoot it half as good as him. Skill cannot be bought.

    • @adrianzamfir2663
      @adrianzamfir2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HuntEthical actually it can. Shooting a pro gun with special ammunition that presents less recoil transforms shooting a gun in shooting an airsoft. Other game there.

    • @meowmix1569
      @meowmix1569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adrianzamfir2663 and you still wouldn't be nearly as good as him. Take your negativity to Twitter.

    • @smangosmooly9538
      @smangosmooly9538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meowmix1569 sound like you haven’t shot a gun. These pistols are completely back-weighted with a fucking compensator and they also shoot low P ammo. A normal 9mm gun doesn’t really kick enough to throw you off target, these guns are literally like call of duty shit

    • @smangosmooly9538
      @smangosmooly9538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@___meph___4547 yeah I’m sure he would shoot slightly better than me, it wouldn’t be night and day though lmao those guns are doing 90% of the work

  • @SilverstoneShootingCentre
    @SilverstoneShootingCentre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, having just tried some practical pistol shooting (I currently shoot IPSC min rifle - we cant have full rifle here i the UK) the second shot placement was my greatest fail, this will help I'm sure, thank you.

  • @mcfarvo
    @mcfarvo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Combine this advice with JJ Racazza's advice on not pinning the trigger during recoil, rather reset the trigger during recoil, and you'll have faster follow up shots

  • @christoFlair777
    @christoFlair777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Doug!!

  • @JA-oo9qp
    @JA-oo9qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Let me demonstrate recoil control with this race gun shooting my reloads 🙄
    I also grip a .22 lightly, Doug. Excellent instruction

  • @CR-ou4hl
    @CR-ou4hl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Super helpful. Thank you 🙏

  • @highspeed9518
    @highspeed9518 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tips short simple and practical

  • @stevefinesse
    @stevefinesse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have great control on that pistol , most say pull the trigger slowly so your hands don’t shake and you keep the recoil well

  • @williampowell8083
    @williampowell8083 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great advice

  • @5yosalina
    @5yosalina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice 👍

  • @yasmanireyes6592
    @yasmanireyes6592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What holster is that guys any one knows link to it ?

  • @TUCOtheratt
    @TUCOtheratt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tip #1 Use an open gun that manages recoil for you.

    • @schneir5
      @schneir5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are definitely some Production Division guns that are made for these matches too, like the CZ Shadow 2. They are pretty expensive, at around $1,400 new or about $2,000 for the Orange version, which is higher end. The heavy steel frame really helps mitigate recoil, plus the low profile slide, like they have in other CZ pistols like the CZ 75, makes it a very soft shooting gun. In the Shadow 2, regular 9 x 19 target rounds feel like .22 long rifle; it's amazing. I think that you could also use something like the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical, because it also has the big, full dust cover, steel frame and low profile slide. It's pretty much just like the Shadow 2, but costs about half the price. They have one at a store near me for $750 cash price. I think the trigger in the Shadow 2 is far superior, but I haven't tried the SP-01 Tactical.
      CZ also has some awesome Limited Divison pistols too, like the Tactical Sport 2 or Tactical Sport Orange, and then they have their Open CZ Czechmate and Czechmate Parrot. The TS2 goes for about $1,500 and the Orange is about $1,900. Compared to a $3,000 Staccato or Wilson Combat, that's not bad. The Czechmate is about $3,300 and the Czechmate Parrot is about $3,800. I know, those prices seem outrageous, and I doubt if I could even trade my car for a Czechmate lol but comparatively, they are priced well. The similar Tanfoglio Open Division race gun costs $4,800 from the Ben Stoeger website, and I can't imagine that the Tanfoglio is any better than the Czechmate. I am pretty much a CZ fanboy, though. Ever since I held the Shadow 2 the first time a few years ago, I've loved that one. It's amazing how much more accurate and fast I can shoot with the Shadow 2! Sorry for the long comment. Have a good one.

  • @pethello3845
    @pethello3845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For faster follow up shots, FIRSTLY use d right 9mm ammo; put compensator on ur pistol; put red dot; put that huge thumb rest; modify trigger to become xtra light; do aĺl & any modification on ur pistol; .....

  • @hyzhao
    @hyzhao 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @Shiestyy21
    @Shiestyy21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U know a real professional when he focuses on the form first no matter what the fuck is the profession

  • @bazzmcfury9550
    @bazzmcfury9550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I might humbly point out the weapon hes using is fitted with a decent muzzle break (substantially reduces recoil on an already low recoiling/ caliber firearm) which aids greatly in keeping secondary/rapid fire follow up shots being placed well without to much need for concern with pedantic grip attention, and it also has a match trigger which reduces pull on the trigger from perhaps 3.5lbs factory to probably 1.5lbs which also aids greatly without concern to much on stance and grip. The optic hes using also eliminates front sight focus problems which is 90% of the battle in being accurate with pistols. It's easy to look the business when you have technology doing a fair bit of the work for you. Buy his set up, practice, and you wont have to worry nearly as much as hes saying on stance and grip. Cant be said for an out of the box standard pistol set up from factory.

    • @allegedlyhandy
      @allegedlyhandy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likely the stupidest TH-cam comment I've read for awhile. The guys he's competing against are running tuned Open guns as well. If you don't have fundamentals, you don't have shit.

  • @timtom1569
    @timtom1569 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice how to stand tutorial

  • @Rex-ii2yz
    @Rex-ii2yz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its like having a guy driving an F1 as the example to drive my 350z. But fundamentals are the core of everything.

  • @pierredohina456
    @pierredohina456 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of gun does he have?

  • @jakeguitarpianoandcello6203
    @jakeguitarpianoandcello6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    stance, grip, and grip tension

  • @89turbomk3
    @89turbomk3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would he beat Jerry in a competition match when Jerry was in his prime?

  • @daveknepp7718
    @daveknepp7718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He looks like a walking billboard.

  • @mgimenez1
    @mgimenez1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always wonder why people vote down great videos. This was a very informative one.

  • @austinromeo1508
    @austinromeo1508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @tmfilms4521
    @tmfilms4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s a really good in-depth unedited video by garandthumb and mojo that covers cadence shooting and trigger reset. Garandthumb also has a video with mojo on recoil control as well:
    m.th-cam.com/video/TCFRWFh4Uyc/w-d-xo.html

  • @stevetierney2630
    @stevetierney2630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice presentation Doug. Shame that one or two others from the old school, have jumped on the "Grip it as tightly as you can" bandwagon. I'm sure you know who I'm referring to.

  • @gernanalcantara6882
    @gernanalcantara6882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    idol very nice im filipino

  • @marcoperez3467
    @marcoperez3467 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    dude...he looks like rick grimes...from twd

    • @bass779
      @bass779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cooooooooral!

  • @regisvillerbu6590
    @regisvillerbu6590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm french . USA my dream

  • @edwardbiasi37
    @edwardbiasi37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure it also helps to shoot weak or low powerd ammo. I'd like to see you guys training and compete with full power ammo.

    • @alexgvarra1
      @alexgvarra1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In competition, they have to comply with power factor. The ammo they use are in full power, too.

    • @jado4149
      @jado4149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He regularly shoots 115gr @ 1500+fps or 124's @ 1400+...

  • @CramcrumBrewbringer
    @CramcrumBrewbringer ปีที่แล้ว

    Now how do you do it without a $4000 custom pistol? Like how do you shoot fast and accurate with p365?

    • @mynameisjeff6988
      @mynameisjeff6988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The gun has absolutely nothing to do with it when you are a world class shooter. The reason the world class shooters use race guns is because they have maxed out the potential that a regular gun can reach. You have not, they have. You cannot reach .12 splits with your glock, they can. You cannot reach a 1 second bill drill with your glock, they can. You cannot reach a .5 second draw, they can. The reason they have the race gun is because there is a point where you outrun your gun's capabilities. Ben stoeger can shoot a glock 34 just as fast as a stacatto xc

  • @ARTABLACKATL
    @ARTABLACKATL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤

  • @esteban1487
    @esteban1487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just put an optic on my Glock 43X. It's certainly not a cure for crappy technique. lol

  • @TrilogyOG
    @TrilogyOG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    a $5000 gun might help too

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      In his case yes. In your case no.

    • @rafon.
      @rafon. 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have no clue about their cases. Good luck living in a "world" of assumption

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Rafon If I tell you do know about their cases? Are you sure you are not making assumptions? "Good luck living in a "world" of assumption"

    • @TrilogyOG
      @TrilogyOG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rafon THANK YOUR RAFON Exactly what i was thinking

    • @highspeed9518
      @highspeed9518 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Almost every gun made will out shoot any human its learning how to deal with problems and muscle memory that sets us apart,pay attention you may learn something

  • @firebladeflow
    @firebladeflow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like how he pronounces his German name entirely wrong :D - König means king in German

    • @Commando0333
      @Commando0333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He his not German. He is from a country that destroyed Germany, and can easily do it again if need be.

  • @jckeltz
    @jckeltz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:14.......is how babies are made.

    • @beachboardfan9544
      @beachboardfan9544 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😆 How is this not the top comment!

    • @sciencebehindthebullet4926
      @sciencebehindthebullet4926 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And being fast off the draw👉

    • @StudM01
      @StudM01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just don't discharge too early before your aim is set. Tends to make a mess. :P

  • @VIniDvince
    @VIniDvince 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick Grimes o my gosh

  • @RichardTuckman
    @RichardTuckman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do it with an Everyman's Glock, not a race gun!

  • @AllTheSmoke999
    @AllTheSmoke999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont listen to competition shooters that use these fancy ass guns. Go to a more reliable shooter who has actual combat experience.

    • @mynameisjeff6988
      @mynameisjeff6988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, listen to a competition shooter if you want to learn how to shoot. Combat experience doesnt mean anything in terms of shooting ability. The average navy seal wouldnt reach B class in USPSA. Learn tactics from a military guy, not shooting. Most cops and military guys would be bottom of the barrel when it comes to shooting

    • @AllTheSmoke999
      @AllTheSmoke999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mynameisjeff6988 competition shooters don't get shot at. They do NOT have combat experience. You wouldn't know anything about that

  • @stephenwatchesyoutube
    @stephenwatchesyoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    how is any of that setup “practical” lol

  • @captainrevolver6998
    @captainrevolver6998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why are we listening to a guy with a compensator on his gun tell us how to control muzzle flip?

    • @sharper9009
      @sharper9009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Captain Revolver Probably because he’s a multiple time world and national champion shooter; one of the most successful competition shooters ever. 🙄

    • @masiina1984
      @masiina1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know, same technique applies in all semi auto pistols and revolvers. Thats why.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because compensated guns still have muzzle flip and good technique can make any gun preform better

  • @lousimms4766
    @lousimms4766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have anxiety and I hate slow motion. Please, regular motion lol

  • @tusharjamwal
    @tusharjamwal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    German surname the American way xD

  • @DylanPemberton-r7w
    @DylanPemberton-r7w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bla bla bla

  • @gregdamario5808
    @gregdamario5808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And you have a vented barrel.

  • @DylanPemberton-r7w
    @DylanPemberton-r7w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get to the fckn point i like these vids but i learn more from guys like hickock or jerry m.

  • @bigboycustoms6628
    @bigboycustoms6628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nah it don't help when you have a several thousand dollar run gun nah that don't matter just your footing and grip if you got that then you can shoot a hipoint just as good as theat run gun you have bud

  • @96SN95
    @96SN95 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone needs to tell this guy Koenig is not pronounced kannig.

    • @bass779
      @bass779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In America, you are allowed to pick how you pronounce your own name. Now you know!

  • @supertrooper7403
    @supertrooper7403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    1:52 was perfect timing