Anyone who grew up in the 70's/80's will be very familiar with the scenes @ 14:00 on. British industry was decimated due to mis-management, asset stripping by greedy bast*rds in The City & political f*ckwittery. The Unions played their part too. On the other hand it was hard for earlier generations to get their head round the idea that Britain was no longer the center of an Empire & would have to compete on different terms. Still, it's sad to see our industrial heritage decimated, not to mention the impact it had on 1000's of families in towns all over the country.
It’s a shame British engineering disappeared…. I’m an Irish man and I always looked at the British shed engineers as the men that built the world… Amazing video,thank you!!
Nice video, very nineties especially with the tunes. Lovely to see all the locos, pity the works appears to be a third of its size these days with most of the land becoming yet more housing and a mcdonalds. Pity I wasn't yet around to see the final days of BR and the start of the privatisation era. One thing I'd have loved to have seen is the merry go round trains that were so prevalent in the 80s and 90s.
The APT-P had extensive trials ? Hardly .... a failure ? Again, rushed in to service way before it should have been, p.s that was a 58 engine, not a 37 engine ( single turbo), fabulous video ❤, such a shame we will never see such a works like this ever again in the UK
Can someone please answer me a question that is bugging me. There was a guy that conducted guided tours in the 80,s who wore a long black coat who was known by Christian name what I have totally forgot. Help
@@paulrathjen7870 thanks I remember now. I will always remember him with his piece of chalk writing the new numbers of ETH conversations being carried out on class 37s and 47s. They were really great visits.
I know a lot of people who worked there. One said "it was like stepping back into the 1960s, really filthy" and that some real strange people worked there, including one man who used to "run through the shop floor at night, screaming his head off".
I've got a question which I hope someone here might know the answer - Why do ALL those who work, drive, manufacture, assemble or repair these various types of trains, always refer to the 'engine / train' as a 'she' ? The Navy does likewise with all their warships and submarines too. I appreciate it's been a tradition for a long time BUT this does not actually address the question, why?
Well managed to the video, and not realised the train, treated, as a little more the objects, but I thing goes the when the train, in daily use, as the countries public transport, the a load more getting going and keeping them going that, the more modem stuff, similar , " Horse-drawn" vehicle, and the term "The phrase busman’s holiday" origin, meanings,they where the first lot restoring the steam train, the that where from the day that there where just the daily transport, but that's just thinking, anyway?
Possibly because engineering and seamanship was mostly a male dominated profession. Using female names for machines was maybe a way of showing affection for the equipment they really depended upon - often using the names of wives, girlfriends, daughters or mothers. Just my bit of amateur psychology. 🤔
I'm going to ask what is probably a stupid question for most people watching this. I know how DELTIC engines work, but why where diesel engines never used to directly drive the locos. Now I know there was a few that did kind of rail busses example County Donegal Railway before its closure. Where they just not as powerful-not enough torque as steam.
Because you need a clutch to interrupt the power source from the drive wheels. A traditional friction clutch would burn out if the loco was pulling a 2k tonne train up a 1:150 gradient for example. So diesel locos have hydraulic (automatic) transmission or more commonly in the UK, a generator and traction motors.
@@philipmcdonagh1094 I would say spinning wheels is a traction issue. Steam engines do clutches differently, when the regulator is closed steam builds up in the boiler, when the pressure is too high the safety valve opens.
Yes there were odd people works in the like Cyril in the tool room who would send you to tuck shop to get ladies tights for keeping warm in the winter and a lonely labour who walk every where with a trolley in toe with the nick name of split pin 😅don’t ask.
The footage showing the Princess loco under construction and the "Victorian" working practices. Well in those days that was normal for the welfare state hadn't taken over and if you got injured at work you weren't compensated like you are today. If you got injured badly you were fired from your job no if's or buts. The men in the works had to look after their own so if someone slipped and fell then a man would stand outside the pay office window and as you collected you pay in cash you would then give some to this man who was collecting for the injured man so he could continue provide for his family. Railway management wouldn't contribute for his getting injured at work was looked upon by them as not their problem. The unions were very different when they first came along for if you lost your job and it wasn't your fault then the union would find you another job in the field you specialised in and not just tell you of vacant position but actually get you the job. Today they've long since jumped into bed with the bosses and have no intentions of getting out of that bed for they do very little for their members but charge extortionate membership fees.
I like the montage at the beginning with all the electronic music it’s really cool to look at and listen to
Outstanding upload much appreciated
Started my apprenticeship at crewe engineering school within crewe works in 1959
Anyone who grew up in the 70's/80's will be very familiar with the scenes @ 14:00 on. British industry was decimated due to mis-management, asset stripping by greedy bast*rds in The City & political f*ckwittery. The Unions played their part too. On the other hand it was hard for earlier generations to get their head round the idea that Britain was no longer the center of an Empire & would have to compete on different terms. Still, it's sad to see our industrial heritage decimated, not to mention the impact it had on 1000's of families in towns all over the country.
You are forgetting the impact of the militant unions.
It’s a shame British engineering disappeared….
I’m an Irish man and I always looked at the British shed engineers as the men that built the world…
Amazing video,thank you!!
I really enjoyed watching this about the works at Crewe
Nice video, very nineties especially with the tunes. Lovely to see all the locos, pity the works appears to be a third of its size these days with most of the land becoming yet more housing and a mcdonalds. Pity I wasn't yet around to see the final days of BR and the start of the privatisation era. One thing I'd have loved to have seen is the merry go round trains that were so prevalent in the 80s and 90s.
Great video Jason a good insight into what Crewe used to be like😊
I was at this open day as a little kid. Very vivid memories.
Also my favourite engine No D1048
Western Lady was built there, thankfully this engine still survives
Fantastic video went round crewe in rhe 8os on open days along with Derby and Doncaster never got toSwindon
The APT-P had extensive trials ? Hardly .... a failure ? Again, rushed in to service way before it should have been, p.s that was a 58 engine, not a 37 engine ( single turbo), fabulous video ❤, such a shame we will never see such a works like this ever again in the UK
It was a great occasion. I took my 3" 46256 "Sir William A Staniers FRS" and Black Five smokebox numberplate.
I want to go to Birmingham and there taking me on to Crew !
Fantastic
Canada 🇨🇦 here as a young man i worked for mcalpine construction in Toronto Canada
Most enjoyable
Can someone please answer me a question that is bugging me. There was a guy that conducted guided tours in the 80,s who wore a long black coat who was known by Christian name what I have totally forgot. Help
His name was Bill
@@paulrathjen7870 thanks I remember now. I will always remember him with his piece of chalk writing the new numbers of ETH conversations being carried out on class 37s and 47s. They were really great visits.
All gone no good RIP Crewe
3:01 This Locomotive Works Crewe Works Which Is The Home Of The London Midland And Scottish Railway. Thanks Mate. X❤😂😅😂😅😂
Why mention Swindon? The works there closed years ago
A repeat of the circa 1966 version that I watched in June 2021. Was it all your own work?
if you have watched it you will know this was produced in 1997
I know a lot of people who worked there. One said "it was like stepping back into the 1960s, really filthy" and that some real strange people worked there, including one man who used to "run through the shop floor at night, screaming his head off".
The voice of one person.
Did you get chance to talk to the 99.99% of the others who worked there?
@@DaysOfDarknessUK not just one person. I'm just repeating what I've heard, no need to get defensive.
1:01:25 Strange to see someone in a white(ish) shirt on the footplate. Snappy haircut probably against ASLEF rules
30 years ago a friend of mine owned a RR Silver Spur, I loved driving it, and I was a better driver than my friend.
I've got a question which I hope someone here might know the answer - Why do ALL those who work, drive, manufacture, assemble or repair these various types of trains, always refer to the 'engine / train' as a 'she' ? The Navy does likewise with all their warships and submarines too. I appreciate it's been a tradition for a long time BUT this does not actually address the question, why?
very good question
It's a term of Affection 🥰
@@rowanlidbury Nah.
Well managed to the video, and not realised the train, treated, as a little more the objects, but I thing goes the when the train, in daily use, as the countries public transport, the a load more getting going and keeping them going that, the more modem stuff, similar , " Horse-drawn" vehicle, and the term "The phrase busman’s holiday" origin, meanings,they where the first lot restoring the steam train, the that where from the day that there where just the daily transport, but that's just thinking, anyway?
Possibly because engineering and seamanship was mostly a male dominated profession. Using female names for machines was maybe a way of showing affection for the equipment they really depended upon - often using the names of wives, girlfriends, daughters or mothers. Just my bit of amateur psychology. 🤔
I'm going to ask what is probably a stupid question for most people watching this. I know how DELTIC engines work, but why where diesel engines never used to directly drive the locos. Now I know there was a few that did kind of rail busses example County Donegal Railway before its closure. Where they just not as powerful-not enough torque as steam.
Because you need a clutch to interrupt the power source from the drive wheels. A traditional friction clutch would burn out if the loco was pulling a 2k tonne train up a 1:150 gradient for example. So diesel locos have hydraulic (automatic) transmission or more commonly in the UK, a generator and traction motors.
@@davidgreen6981 I guess spinning wheels on the track was enough of a clutch for steam locos.
@@philipmcdonagh1094 Spinning wheels does damage steel tracks, and AFAIK they try to avoid that.
@@philipmcdonagh1094 I would say spinning wheels is a traction issue. Steam engines do clutches differently, when the regulator is closed steam builds up in the boiler, when the pressure is too high the safety valve opens.
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no young jason could been seen
Not from little me but the wife was working there as a cleaner when this was filmed
Yes there were odd people works in the like Cyril in the tool room who would send you to tuck shop to get ladies tights for keeping warm in the winter and a lonely labour who walk every where with a trolley in toe with the nick name of split pin 😅don’t ask.
Please kill the music!
The footage showing the Princess loco under construction and the "Victorian" working practices. Well in those days that was normal for the welfare state hadn't taken over and if you got injured at work you weren't compensated like you are today. If you got injured badly you were fired from your job no if's or buts. The men in the works had to look after their own so if someone slipped and fell then a man would stand outside the pay office window and as you collected you pay in cash you would then give some to this man who was collecting for the injured man so he could continue provide for his family. Railway management wouldn't contribute for his getting injured at work was looked upon by them as not their problem. The unions were very different when they first came along for if you lost your job and it wasn't your fault then the union would find you another job in the field you specialised in and not just tell you of vacant position but actually get you the job. Today they've long since jumped into bed with the bosses and have no intentions of getting out of that bed for they do very little for their members but charge extortionate membership fees.
All ruined by foreigner's.....................................
Interesting video crap music 👎🏼