In a platform with balls, it is necessary to put a soft material under the carpet, sound insulation for cars or foamed polyethylene is suitable. This greatly reduces noise, even on an old wooden floor.
Seems overly complicated vs. the Roland stuff. Why not just mimic their design and go with a couple rectangles and something to mimic an NE-1 on each of the legs?
Hello, great video. In practical terms, how the noise/vibration is heard in the floor below? Do your neighbor complains after the noise spider installed? Thank you!
it depends on the neighbours. This device is not as good as the Roland products and also not perfect. It reduces the noise, but does not eliminate it. I will soon build a better device.
Thank You for taking the time out to do such a informative instructional video. This looks like the most affordable of them all. I would like to add that your idea can be used also for the legs of the drum rack. one cut tennis ball a round piece of wood a little bit bigger in diameter than the drum rack foot and a plastic type cup that the drum rack foot can sit in. Thanks again. I will be using your great idea.
+williamjver I had the idea with the drum rack too. The problem is however, one ball per leg is to weak. You would need 3 at least, or more depending on the weight of the rack gear.
+Vdrum Tips I see your point about the weight of the drum rack. Three or four tennis balls per leg on a round piece of plywood to accommodate the tennis balls with a plastic cup for drum rack foot to keep the foot from wandering.
Thank you so much for sharing this info! This will be super useful. My only concern is that, as you said, the pedals do move a bit. I'm wondering how that will affect double bass playing at higher speeds. Also how it will affect heel/toe playing. Would it be better to make a rectangle piece to cover the whole surface area of the pedal and kick drum? That way you could have half a tennis ball on each corner and maybe one in the middle to give it a bit more stability?
I think you can ad more tennis balls to make it more stable. But this will increase the noise. I think even the Roland Noise Eaters are moving. I don't know what to to when playing hihg speed...I am not able to:D
In general? Not sure why this would be a topic. There is not much to say about that. It just depends on the music you want to play. Or do you mean a 2 kick drum setup with 2 single pedals vs a double pedal?
Hi Barrio, sorry, but this was ages ago. I should have written the app name into the text. I totally forgot. You may download a few of them and have a look which one is looking similar to the one I used.
There's an app called ''Vibration Meter'' that works really well if you want to test how much vibrations from your drums that go into the floor. Use the app to messure with and without a tennisball raiser of other kind of vibration dampening platform, you can also place your phone with the app next to you keyboard on your computer desk and record how much vibrations that comes from just typing on a keyboard so you have somekind of reference when testing the vibrations from your drums.
+Larry Tate not really...the VH-11 dampens the noise. There is no isolation needed on the hi hat stand in my opinion. Roland advertises it mostly because of the difference in height level.
this is perfect! I had seen all the vids for a full on drum riser, but my room is tiny, I cant be having the stool sitting in its normal playing position and the bulkiness of the stand.. I saw the roland noise eaters and was like, okay well easy I'll just combine both ideas to make my own, couldnt believe no one else had done this, but there you go, thank you! old video, but still helpful
This is old i know but have you done this? and if so how was the result? i want to do the same as the kick pedal is the only thing making a crazy amount of noise as i have an electronic kit but like you said a whole platform doesnt seem that necessary, only the kick bass.
Yeah, pretty great except it's pretty dumb, too. Your hi hats and all the things will now be higher than they normally are. That the pedals are now technically off the ground may also cause a bunch of unanticipated annoyance and change of feel. Probably best to get everything on the same sound dampening playing field...
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" That Stops Outside Noise by 80% (25 Db) Tested. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
Hi, in this video ---------> th-cam.com/video/Upww1-I4sD4/w-d-xo.html You explain how to make a full "drum mat". Is this like an add on for that one? Or just with the drum riser should be enough. Because im not sure if you are presenting two posibilities, or if you ended up needing to do both things in order to properly isolate. (Since youve made this video after the other)
Francisco José Olivero Hi, this is basically an alternative solution. In case you need something more compact. I used both , the board and this thing together. But they work on its own too.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" That Stops Outside Noise by 80% (25 Db) Tested. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
With kick drums it's more about the vibration. Unless you have paper thin walls most e-kits don't disturb the neighbours. The the vibration of the stomping that travels.
is that so? I would say the noise of the kick drum goes mainly through the air. I've build a pretty decent platform, but cant really say it made an essential impact on noise reduction.@@hammondsphoto
Geez, this is getting pretty crazy with the noise isolation bs ... If you can't make noise in your own apt or home of an e-kit (which is pretty quiet) Move! ...
They are REAL DRUMs, REAL DRUM SOUNDS, created in the studio, of the finest drums in the world, to use on Roland and Yamaha equipment, I guarantee you, they sound better than any sounds you can make on an acoustic kit, you don't need any tape or mufflers or moon gel, kit ports, eq, nothing, you don't have to spend days in the studio or even playing out and setting up in certain places, trying to find the best sound to record in what part of the room, just plug 'em in! You're not just triggering sounds anymore , this equipment is highly playable, with positional and velocity sensitivity, plus they're easier to play than acoustic drums and you can make a hybrid kit out of your acoustic kit and beef up your sound while still giving concert goers a show with your acoustic equipment, they're all switching to this, Hard Rock, Metal, Jazz, Fusion, try it! You'll like it! thousands of kits and sounds to choose from, snares, kicks, even cymbals, at the touch of a button ... The best drum sounds! Rolandus.com
E-Drums are fine for practice but E-Drums has still a lot of problems and probably won't be able to beat acoustic drums ever. Feeling and Sound is both worse but still fine. For example that E-Drums always sound the same when you hit it unless like you want to pay 8000$+. I for example don't want that my e-drum always sounds the same or always sounds perfect. Sometimes I think it sucks that E-Drums always sound perfect no matter how you hit them except of volume.
Philip Daniels lol edrums are garbage in comparison to real. I'm sure cheap easy pop music made by teenagers could easily be played on a edrums kit tho. Hell skip the useless edrums and download a free beat making software. You can churn out edrums trash sound at the rate of 1 new song every 2 minutes and it'll be more complex than a live edrums player could ever make it if you barely try. Rappers that are talented make beats a edrummer wishes they could play live but physically can't without backing tracks
This was the first video I seen from you. Really miss you rn V Drum Tips 🥺.
do you have a list of the materials used great idea
In a platform with balls, it is necessary to put a soft material under the carpet, sound insulation for cars or foamed polyethylene is suitable. This greatly reduces noise, even on an old wooden floor.
Can you build this for me and I pay you?
Which one is better? The spider or the drum riser?
In my case the spider.
See, we made the sound board, but do you lot think we need to make the pedal boards too, or will the main board be enough?x
+TheMissKittyStar Only if your kit does still cause too much noise.
Could I apply this same concept to a KT-10, only connecting the tennis ball halves directly to the front spikes on the pedal?
Yes
Seems overly complicated vs. the Roland stuff. Why not just mimic their design and go with a couple rectangles and something to mimic an NE-1 on each of the legs?
thought of that, too. A practice setup doesn't have to look that great. I think I'll just use a board with those tennis ball halfs
where do you buy those cups? for holding the pedal in place
is it possible to leave the board away and attach the tennis balls directly to the bassdrumpad, bassdrumpedal and hihat stand ?
That would be more effort and less steady.
Hello, great video. In practical terms, how the noise/vibration is heard in the floor below? Do your neighbor complains after the noise spider installed? Thank you!
it depends on the neighbours. This device is not as good as the Roland products and also not perfect. It reduces the noise, but does not eliminate it.
I will soon build a better device.
Thank You for taking the time out to do such a informative instructional video.
This looks like the most affordable of them all.
I would like to add that your idea can be used also for the legs of the drum rack.
one cut tennis ball a round piece of wood a little bit bigger in diameter than the drum rack foot and a plastic type cup that the drum rack foot can sit in.
Thanks again. I will be using your great idea.
+williamjver I had the idea with the drum rack too. The problem is however, one ball per leg is to weak. You would need 3 at least, or more depending on the weight of the rack gear.
+Vdrum Tips I see your point about the weight of the drum rack.
Three or four tennis balls per leg on a round piece of plywood to accommodate the tennis balls with a plastic cup for drum rack foot to keep the foot from wandering.
Yes, that is what I have in mind. But it could work with one if you really only have a light basic rack like the TD-11.
+Vdrum Tips You are an asset to the Drumming Community.
Thanks again for a great Video.
Thank you very much! Glad you like them!
How thick is the plywood?
Cooking Hungry In this case 19mm. But I don't think it has to be that thick.
Thank you so much for sharing this info! This will be super useful.
My only concern is that, as you said, the pedals do move a bit. I'm wondering how that will affect double bass playing at higher speeds. Also how it will affect heel/toe playing.
Would it be better to make a rectangle piece to cover the whole surface area of the pedal and kick drum? That way you could have half a tennis ball on each corner and maybe one in the middle to give it a bit more stability?
I think you can ad more tennis balls to make it more stable. But this will increase the noise. I think even the Roland Noise Eaters are moving. I don't know what to to when playing hihg speed...I am not able to:D
For all the time and money invested, wouldn't use of Roland NE-10 and NE-1 be just as economical?
I could with these videos for hours...you're a genius!!
can you make a video on single pedal vs double pedal
In general? Not sure why this would be a topic. There is not much to say about that. It just depends on the music you want to play. Or do you mean a 2 kick drum setup with 2 single pedals vs a double pedal?
Great idea!!!! I want to do the same but I would like to measure the results. Could you please tell me what app did you use for this action?
Thanks :)
Hi Barrio,
sorry, but this was ages ago. I should have written the app name into the text. I totally forgot. You may download a few of them and have a look which one is looking similar to the one I used.
There's an app called ''Vibration Meter'' that works really well if you want to test how much vibrations from your drums that go into the floor. Use the app to messure with and without a tennisball raiser of other kind of vibration dampening platform, you can also place your phone with the app next to you keyboard on your computer desk and record how much vibrations that comes from just typing on a keyboard so you have somekind of reference when testing the vibrations from your drums.
What if u play a lot of foot hi hat notes? Will the hat stand make noise with no tennis balls
+Larry Tate not really...the VH-11 dampens the noise. There is no isolation needed on the hi hat stand in my opinion. Roland advertises it mostly because of the difference in height level.
Use tennis balls for the HH too. When you strike it with your sticks the vibrations still carry
Your saying like on the cymbal?
this is perfect! I had seen all the vids for a full on drum riser, but my room is tiny, I cant be having the stool sitting in its normal playing position and the bulkiness of the stand.. I saw the roland noise eaters and was like, okay well easy I'll just combine both ideas to make my own, couldnt believe no one else had done this, but there you go, thank you! old video, but still helpful
This is old i know but have you done this? and if so how was the result? i want to do the same as the kick pedal is the only thing making a crazy amount of noise as i have an electronic kit but like you said a whole platform doesnt seem that necessary, only the kick bass.
That's awesome Melania!
😂
Hi, What app is that measuring impact noise?
+Pablo Godi It is called: Seismometer App
+Vdrum Tips Danke!
Thanks for posting these great tips!
Hi. Sorry this might be a dumb question, but would this work for an acoustic drum set? Would anything be different?
Yes, it would work too.
Could you use sylomer ?
Yes
this very good idea..but im afraid the stand fell from stick because drummer not remember anything during kick..and it might ruin everything..
+Amin Bakri The stand is actually really steady.
What's the app called?
No idea, I filmed that a while ago. Search for saismometer, any app will do:)
"Even if you fweak out while playing"....
They shouldn't touch each udder
@@topramen1694 add a falt pad udder neef.
I adjusted my “Hyatt level” in Vegas...got a sweet ass penthouse suite with a jacuzzi😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, pretty great except it's pretty dumb, too. Your hi hats and all the things will now be higher than they normally are. That the pedals are now technically off the ground may also cause a bunch of unanticipated annoyance and change of feel. Probably best to get everything on the same sound dampening playing field...
That's really smart. Thank you.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" That Stops Outside Noise by 80% (25 Db) Tested. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
does it affect your playing because the pedals are raised and not flush on floor? Your sitting position?
Ni, since I adjust the height of all pads and the stool.
Hi, in this video ---------> th-cam.com/video/Upww1-I4sD4/w-d-xo.html
You explain how to make a full "drum mat". Is this like an add on for that one?
Or just with the drum riser should be enough. Because im not sure if you are presenting two posibilities, or if you ended up needing to do both things in order to properly isolate. (Since youve made this video after the other)
Francisco José Olivero Hi, this is basically an alternative solution. In case you need something more compact. I used both , the board and this thing together. But they work on its own too.
Great video, thank you very much from Mexico.
+jlmorenoc2000 Thanks for watching:)
And for those who are not McGiver ?😅
To those 33 who dislikes i can't imagine how idiots are they. Not appreciate this very easy tip!
Surprised not been made by a drum co great idea🎵🎵🎶🎶👍
Instead of using tennis balls, use Slyo Pucks instead. Tennis balls cause way too much movement.
THANK YOU a lot !!!!!!!
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" That Stops Outside Noise by 80% (25 Db) Tested. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
Build one for meeeeee
your chanel are great.Hugh thanks to your dedication!!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the idea!
very nice! man
Well done!
Thanks:)
This is great!
that was fucking awesome man ! thanks
No works in japan...
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Nice!
noice
good lord!!! good idea..
I'm so jealous I want a v-drum so bad
But this video is very helpful
Get a second hand one in case money is an issue:)
+Vdrum Tips I can't find any
Go on Ebay.
I cant smell it
UMMMMMM.....all that work.....and the noise really isn't reduced that much. LOL
With kick drums it's more about the vibration. Unless you have paper thin walls most e-kits don't disturb the neighbours. The the vibration of the stomping that travels.
is that so? I would say the noise of the kick drum goes mainly through the air. I've build a pretty decent platform, but cant really say it made an essential impact on noise reduction.@@hammondsphoto
Best thanks ;-)
This is AWESOME
Pretty cool
Geez, this is getting pretty crazy with the noise isolation bs ... If you can't make noise in your own apt or home of an e-kit (which is pretty quiet) Move! ...
...one question... Why would you play an e-kit at all? If you can't play real drums... Move! (into the forest or something)
They are REAL DRUMs, REAL DRUM SOUNDS, created in the studio, of the finest drums in the world, to use on Roland and Yamaha equipment, I guarantee you, they sound better than any sounds you can make on an acoustic kit, you don't need any tape or mufflers or moon gel, kit ports, eq, nothing, you don't have to spend days in the studio or even playing out and setting up in certain places, trying to find the best sound to record in what part of the room, just plug 'em in! You're not just triggering sounds anymore , this equipment is highly playable, with positional and velocity sensitivity, plus they're easier to play than acoustic drums and you can make a hybrid kit out of your acoustic kit and beef up your sound while still giving concert goers a show with your acoustic equipment, they're all switching to this, Hard Rock, Metal, Jazz, Fusion, try it! You'll like it! thousands of kits and sounds to choose from, snares, kicks, even cymbals, at the touch of a button ... The best drum sounds! Rolandus.com
E-Drums are fine for practice but E-Drums has still a lot of problems and probably won't be able to beat acoustic drums ever. Feeling and Sound is both worse but still fine. For example that E-Drums always sound the same when you hit it unless like you want to pay 8000$+. I for example don't want that my e-drum always sounds the same or always sounds perfect. Sometimes I think it sucks that E-Drums always sound perfect no matter how you hit them except of volume.
LMAO!! Yeah, because people picking up an moving their whole damn house is easier than just creating some noise isolation.
Philip Daniels lol edrums are garbage in comparison to real. I'm sure cheap easy pop music made by teenagers could easily be played on a edrums kit tho. Hell skip the useless edrums and download a free beat making software. You can churn out edrums trash sound at the rate of 1 new song every 2 minutes and it'll be more complex than a live edrums player could ever make it if you barely try. Rappers that are talented make beats a edrummer wishes they could play live but physically can't without backing tracks