I really appreciate how “uncut,” this was in a way, demonstrating your learning process along the way so that we can make something even better than you did, assuming we have the skill (: thank you so much for sharing! Great video and I think your demonstration with the vibration app was a nice touch.
Great useful video, as I will be building one of these soon as part of a total room sound proofing (reducing) project. A vital point you missed thought was showing the actual real difference the platform made on the original floor. You showed a vibration reading on top of the wooden platform, which was always going to be high, and then a vibration reading on the concrete floor next to the platform. But the most important piece of information to demonstrate how effective the platform really is, would have been actual floor readings before and after using the platform. Just an observation ;)
Great video. A more "scientific" way would have been to place the phone on the floor both times, but first with the drums on the floor as well and then on the platform. First of all, the platform is much less stable than the floor, so of course putting the phone on the platform produces great vibrations. Second, you want to measure how the floor "hears" the drums before and after, not how the floor hears them compared to how the platform hears them. (The latter is irrelevant.)
Awesome. Thanks for checking out the video. The platform is still going strong, although I've upgrade my kit quite a bit to a full on Yamaha DTX with much nicer pads.
I built mine using 2 pieces of plywood containing tennis balls with the holes drilled thro (mine were too big as well and ended up poking thro the board) with noodles on the floor and kneeling mats (cut into 3's). This rests on a carpeted floor, in the top room. Finished it off with foam playmats and a piece of carpet on top. Works for me... Love, 40! PS. I converted my pads to mesh heads. But that's another story...
Hey man! Nice work. I'm starting my own one next week but for my whole electronic kit. Thanks for filming the whole process and for making it so funny. Keep it up!
I did the same thing, except I placed kneeling mats cut in three's under the platform for extra isolation, on the already carpeted floor. Now I just gotta find a way to insulate the kick pad even more....
hi, you can use timpani mallets (soft cotton ends) as sticks, reduces allot of noise. Just be sure to hold them right at the balancing point in the hand. There are videos on youtube regards this.peace
actually found a better solution which resulted with zero penetrated noise. Viscopad under every ground touching part of your kit. Especially underneath hihat and kick pedal 4 layers of thin visco layer and something hard on top so that your pedals are stable enough to play fixes all the vibrations penetrated by the kit. I have tested by putting my ear on my mdf board which my kit sits on and a very sensitive zoom R16 mic on the ground . There is no other material which dampenes the vibrations better than viscopad PERIOD... I have spend 200 $ on a riser made by industrial sound isolating material with not a good result. I have been provided with special dampening foams used as risers custom calculated according to my total weight and other sheet of material on top of the bars which hold my MDF . And still my neighbors could hear the rumbling whenever I used the kick and hihat pedals. So I have created my own solution. So don't think Roland noise eaters work this efficient... I have also tested tennis balls and found out they still pass vibrations below...
Hope this helps but if you search for "Noise Isolation Drum Platform" a few people have tutorials and some blueprints up online in metric! As you can see I kinda free-formed mine!
Hey brother! Never seen your vids before but just wanted to say this was super helpful. I’ll be taking a lot of your advice to heart as I set out to build something similar. Thanks again. Keep it up!
Thank you for watching Mark. Glad this tutorial could help. When you finish yours feel free to comment on here any improvements you might have done. Tweet any pictures at me as well. Cheers!
gr8 vdo, wouldnt it be better to get rid of the white plastic thingies on the bottom (dont they add vibration noise?)and put some kind of sylomer shock absorbers instead ? thx
I suggest that you be promoted to Sergeant "First Class". Well done, very detailed video. Much appreciated, thanks for putting so much great info and effort into sharing this here. Cheers! Ab
Thanks for the vid!! I’m in the middle of attempting this proj and the bimetal hole saw will not cut through the MDF at all (and I’m using .5” thickness instead of the .75 for each piece). Going to try with a tungsten carbide bit with fewer teeth cause I’ve read that can work better with MDF. I’m curious if you had any issues with the drilling?? Thanks again!!
I mostly just had trouble with the mdf saw dust getting burned by the hot hole saw. Smoked up quite a bit. But got through all the holes after quite a bit of time
Well sound is just vibrations moving through the air. So no this solution doesn't stop sounds from moving through the air. It just dampens/isolates some of the sounds/vibrations which would normal travel into the ground.
cool, just had a complaint from neighbour under me, i have concrete floors, but that damn kick pedal just resonates like a swine....looks like a good solution man. tennis balls, who would have thought...cheers bud.
SrgntBallisticGaming . Yeah did whole tennis ball thing. And added half balls just on corners under it....tested with seismic app...nothing. so yeah man. Brilliant IT WORKS 100% cheers man.
Dude, I did a similar job, but with the drummer on top. I wonder if I decrease to only fit the battery, will it shake the whole drum? ps: My way worked fine.. But i want to get some space on my room... so i want to fit this up
Excellent video. I'm living in a second floor apartment right now and I'll be building one of these so I can get some practice in. I just had a question about something that you said in the video. You mentioned wishing that you'd done a 3x3 grid with the tennis balls. Would you mind explaining what you mean by that? Thanks!
Great video, thanks. But I'm confused about one thing At 9:46 you're explaining you have a concrete foundation and the sounds would be an issue if moving to the floor above. Are you saying the platform you're building wouldn't help enough if moving to the floor above you? I'm on my top floor of my apartment, got the Roland Noise Eaters which didn't do the trick for my bottom neighbors. So I'm curious if adding this platform will help. Thanks!
I just meant with the concrete on my first floor the vibrations passing through to my neighbors isn't as big of a problem. But if I moved it up stairs it would be a lot more noticeable on my first floor and would pass through to them a lot more. It should help a lot more with a 2nd+ floor setup. Definitely check out some of the recommended videos. A few other people have done some variations and they could be helpful. I have a few in the description under "Inspiration" as well.
Yep. Roland sells some sound isolation pads to go under different parts of the set for like $20 - $100 each. I'd much rather spend $100 and a few hours time making something.
Hey I was thinking about building one of these. I'm quite a heavy guy would it support my weight? And what do you mean about measuring 6 inch grid,?. I should have paid more attention in school lol
Sorry this video is a bit older so I can't recall every detail. I believe the 6 inch grid means every hole was about 6 inches away from every other ball. In terms of the weight support. I ended up not placing my drum throne on the platform. And then adjusted the placement of the drum set so that I can reach the pedals and drums from my throne comfortably. One thing to think about is how high your throne can go. Because if the throne is on the ground and the drum set is on the platform it will throw off how things feel. I hope that helps
@@BallisticTech yeah I feel it wouldn't feel the same without the throne on the platform so I'm gonna try incorporate it in. I'll look around for advice thanks for the reply
Hey nice fix man! Just moved from a house into an apartment on the second floor so I’ve already gotten complaints from my downstairs neighbors. This seems like a fantastic and semi-easy fix so I’ll be doing this very soon!
I think it could help. There are similar products sold that are specifically designed for accoustic kits. V-Drum has a video that uses some really high end damping material that's probably worth a look. I think it could definitely help with a bass pedal which is the biggest offender.
Jamming 'In Bloom' at the end there? 👍 Thanks for the walkthrough. I'll be moving to the second floor of an apartment soon and think this is my best bet to still be able to get some practice in.
You sir, are pretty good! I was in fact playing (or trying to play) In Bloom. I'm so out of practice tho. I'm going to be moving into a house where my room will be on the 2nd floor. So I think I'll likely rework the design a bit. Definitely going to use smaller holes for the tennis balls.
Hello. I've decided to build the platform for my edrum too. But i want to put my drum throne on it. Can the platform carry me (198 lbs) and my drum yamaha dtxtreme. Of course i will use larger mdfs than yours but i wonder that if tennis balls will damage or not? Btw thanks for video 😉
I definitely think it's possible with a modified design. You'll weigj more than the kit (I imagine). So the platform will shift towards you when the balls compress. Maybe more balls under the throne? I think I said this in the video but make the holes smaller so the balls don't sink too far into them. You can make the holes bigger but its hard to make them smaller. You can maybe save on mdf and only use the top platform. If you don't move it around a lot. I saw another design that did this. I'm not sure how much it would impact the dampening. There's a few more good designs on TH-cam so def check out others and take the best parts of each.
Your next project should be the building of side panels to completely enclose the set; if these were effective enough they could be paid for by not buying practice pads, mufflers and cymbals.
Great video, well explained and kudos for sharing mistakes so others may learn. The carpet pun and the Wu Tang were just just showing off... :) #ILoveAGoodPun
You really don't need to go through all this expense and trouble. I got 1" rubber interlocking mats for home gyms from Xspec on Amazon. Downstairs neighbor says 0 vibrations now. 12x 2x2ft squares for $100
Excellent! Don't understand how you don't have more views :) I love these types of projects. Great job as always.
Thanks for watching Jonah
I really appreciate how “uncut,” this was in a way, demonstrating your learning process along the way so that we can make something even better than you did, assuming we have the skill (: thank you so much for sharing! Great video and I think your demonstration with the vibration app was a nice touch.
Great useful video, as I will be building one of these soon as part of a total room sound proofing (reducing) project. A vital point you missed thought was showing the actual real difference the platform made on the original floor. You showed a vibration reading on top of the wooden platform, which was always going to be high, and then a vibration reading on the concrete floor next to the platform. But the most important piece of information to demonstrate how effective the platform really is, would have been actual floor readings before and after using the platform. Just an observation ;)
Im going to fabricate one now as well. I will use tge 3inch grid as you suggested👍
Great video. A more "scientific" way would have been to place the phone on the floor both times, but first with the drums on the floor as well and then on the platform. First of all, the platform is much less stable than the floor, so of course putting the phone on the platform produces great vibrations. Second, you want to measure how the floor "hears" the drums before and after, not how the floor hears them compared to how the platform hears them. (The latter is irrelevant.)
Brilliant video, will be using this as a template, thanks!!!
Awesome. Thanks for checking out the video. The platform is still going strong, although I've upgrade my kit quite a bit to a full on Yamaha DTX with much nicer pads.
I built mine using 2 pieces of plywood containing tennis balls with the holes drilled thro (mine were too big as well and ended up poking thro the board) with noodles on the floor and kneeling mats (cut into 3's). This rests on a carpeted floor, in the top room.
Finished it off with foam playmats and a piece of carpet on top.
Works for me... Love, 40!
PS. I converted my pads to mesh heads. But that's another story...
Nice. You have any pictures? Would love to see them on twitter
What was the thickness of the plywoods ?
Hey man! Nice work. I'm starting my own one next week but for my whole electronic kit. Thanks for filming the whole process and for making it so funny.
Keep it up!
Dude this is brilliant!!! I’m going to build one
Definitely look around TH-cam for other implementations. A lot of people have riffed on this concept
How many tennis balls will I need for a 55 "* 48" (140cm - 120cm) mdf platform?
I did the same thing, except I placed kneeling mats cut in three's under the platform for extra isolation, on the already carpeted floor.
Now I just gotta find a way to insulate the kick pad even more....
hi, you can use timpani mallets (soft cotton ends) as sticks, reduces allot of noise. Just be sure to hold them right at the balancing point in the hand. There are videos on youtube regards this.peace
This might be what I need for my big bass amp when I'm practicing.
That could be really interesting. If yo ever start working on it tweet some updates at me!
Hey good job man, what's about the neighbors after using the platform?
Awesome build, gonna make this my next weekend project!
actually found a better solution which resulted with zero penetrated noise. Viscopad under every ground touching part of your kit. Especially underneath hihat and kick pedal 4 layers of thin visco layer and something hard on top so that your pedals are stable enough to play fixes all the vibrations penetrated by the kit. I have tested by putting my ear on my mdf board which my kit sits on and a very sensitive zoom R16 mic on the ground . There is no other material which dampenes the vibrations better than viscopad PERIOD... I have spend 200 $ on a riser made by industrial sound isolating material with not a good result. I have been provided with special dampening foams used as risers custom calculated according to my total weight and other sheet of material on top of the bars which hold my MDF . And still my neighbors could hear the rumbling whenever I used the kick and hihat pedals. So I have created my own solution. So don't think Roland noise eaters work this efficient... I have also tested tennis balls and found out they still pass vibrations below...
what is viscopad bro
google no answers
Nice, dude
Were you all coked out when recording the first part? Or speed?
This tutorial will save me. But damn the imperial units... Never got used to it.
Hope this helps but if you search for "Noise Isolation Drum Platform" a few people have tutorials and some blueprints up online in metric! As you can see I kinda free-formed mine!
I'll try to drill smaller holes. I'll be careful.
Hey brother! Never seen your vids before but just wanted to say this was super helpful. I’ll be taking a lot of your advice to heart as I set out to build something similar. Thanks again. Keep it up!
Thank you for watching Mark. Glad this tutorial could help. When you finish yours feel free to comment on here any improvements you might have done. Tweet any pictures at me as well. Cheers!
Very Cool. I need to make one now
gr8 vdo, wouldnt it be better to get rid of the white plastic thingies on the bottom (dont they add vibration noise?)and put some kind of sylomer shock absorbers instead ? thx
very useful video, thank you!
How much did it cost overall? Tools included
Hey, do you have to change the tennis balls from time to time?
Great video! Does anyone think this might work if I put an acoustic drum kit on it? Just strictly speaking in reducing the impact noise
No....only will reduce the vibration
Are those tennis balls soft or hard tennis?
I suggest that you be promoted to Sergeant "First Class". Well done, very detailed video. Much appreciated, thanks for putting so much great info and effort into sharing this here. Cheers! Ab
so what was the result? any neighbour complaints? can they hear it at all?
Can I use plywood instead of MFD
Thanks so much! Will share my version when ready - cheers.
Could you do this with cartires and it would work even better because of the wideness ?
Thanks for the vid!! I’m in the middle of attempting this proj and the bimetal hole saw will not cut through the MDF at all (and I’m using .5” thickness instead of the .75 for each piece). Going to try with a tungsten carbide bit with fewer teeth cause I’ve read that can work better with MDF. I’m curious if you had any issues with the drilling?? Thanks again!!
I mostly just had trouble with the mdf saw dust getting burned by the hot hole saw. Smoked up quite a bit. But got through all the holes after quite a bit of time
Did you end up finishing your platform project? How were your results? I'm still deciding whether or not to try this for my apartment!
you don't negate the sound, just the vibration
and often the sound from bass-pad, plastic hats and ride electronic bells is the issue
Well sound is just vibrations moving through the air. So no this solution doesn't stop sounds from moving through the air. It just dampens/isolates some of the sounds/vibrations which would normal travel into the ground.
Will that prevent my neighbors from downstairs to hear me playing?
Tennis balls gradually lose their pressure over time, so do you notice that the noise reduction reduces/improves after a while?
Awesome video man! you saved my life. If I make the platform bigger could I also fit my throne so I can seat in there? I'm a short guy lol
cool, just had a complaint from neighbour under me, i have concrete floors, but that damn kick pedal just resonates like a swine....looks like a good solution man. tennis balls, who would have thought...cheers bud.
No problem. I hope this helps. There's a few other videos you can check out that have done some slight variations. Let me know how your build goes!
SrgntBallisticGaming . Yeah did whole tennis ball thing. And added half balls just on corners under it....tested with seismic app...nothing. so yeah man. Brilliant IT WORKS 100% cheers man.
@11:26 nirvana - in bloom, right ?;)
Cool video. Are you selling your tennis racket now when you have used all the tennis balls ;-)
What is the diameter of the holes?
Great video! Does the tapping from the sticks on pads ever bother the people above you? Thanks..
Excellent video and commentary. May something like this someday. Thanks!
Thanks for watching.
Dude, I did a similar job, but with the drummer on top. I wonder if I decrease to only fit the battery, will it shake the whole drum? ps: My way worked fine.. But i want to get some space on my room... so i want to fit this up
Ony the drums**
Great tutorial! Can you tell the name of the App to measure vibrations? Cheers.
I searched for "Vibration Sensor" on android and there were dozens of options.
Thanks for the video - well explained and clearly demonstrated! One question about the hole saw you used - you used one which can be used for metal?
Nicely done dude! Gotta try this! Btw, at 11:20 do you play Nirvana - In bloom? 😀
Haha yeah trying to at least!
Well done, my friend.
great Video! How much did it end up costing you? I know pretty much every diy I have done has involved me making at least two trips to Home Depot lol
Excellent video. I'm living in a second floor apartment right now and I'll be building one of these so I can get some practice in.
I just had a question about something that you said in the video. You mentioned wishing that you'd done a 3x3 grid with the tennis balls. Would you mind explaining what you mean by that?
Thanks!
Hey. Thanks for watching. Which part was that?
High quality
Great video, thanks. But I'm confused about one thing
At 9:46 you're explaining you have a concrete foundation and the sounds would be an issue if moving to the floor above. Are you saying the platform you're building wouldn't help enough if moving to the floor above you?
I'm on my top floor of my apartment, got the Roland Noise Eaters which didn't do the trick for my bottom neighbors. So I'm curious if adding this platform will help.
Thanks!
I just meant with the concrete on my first floor the vibrations passing through to my neighbors isn't as big of a problem.
But if I moved it up stairs it would be a lot more noticeable on my first floor and would pass through to them a lot more.
It should help a lot more with a 2nd+ floor setup.
Definitely check out some of the recommended videos. A few other people have done some variations and they could be helpful. I have a few in the description under "Inspiration" as well.
Ah I see, so the platform would still help in my case. Thanks for getting back so fast. I'll check out those other vids
Love your jokes! Thanks for the tutorial dude
DYI FTW
Yep. Roland sells some sound isolation pads to go under different parts of the set for like $20 - $100 each. I'd much rather spend $100 and a few hours time making something.
Hey I was thinking about building one of these. I'm quite a heavy guy would it support my weight? And what do you mean about measuring 6 inch grid,?. I should have paid more attention in school lol
Sorry this video is a bit older so I can't recall every detail. I believe the 6 inch grid means every hole was about 6 inches away from every other ball.
In terms of the weight support. I ended up not placing my drum throne on the platform. And then adjusted the placement of the drum set so that I can reach the pedals and drums from my throne comfortably.
One thing to think about is how high your throne can go. Because if the throne is on the ground and the drum set is on the platform it will throw off how things feel.
I hope that helps
@@BallisticTech yeah I feel it wouldn't feel the same without the throne on the platform so I'm gonna try incorporate it in. I'll look around for advice thanks for the reply
Hey nice fix man! Just moved from a house into an apartment on the second floor so I’ve already gotten complaints from my downstairs neighbors. This seems like a fantastic and semi-easy fix so I’ll be doing this very soon!
Tell us about the results
Yeah, how did it go?
Did it work?
Interesting project. Nice video!
Thanks Penta! Yeah I really had an itch to make something and to finally start getting my living room better set up!
You were playing Nirvana In Bloom at the beginning of that weren’t yah?
Correct. Trying to play at least
Its probably a dumb question but will it help and reducing sound through floors if you are using an acoustic drum set?
I think it could help. There are similar products sold that are specifically designed for accoustic kits. V-Drum has a video that uses some really high end damping material that's probably worth a look. I think it could definitely help with a bass pedal which is the biggest offender.
Jamming 'In Bloom' at the end there? 👍 Thanks for the walkthrough. I'll be moving to the second floor of an apartment soon and think this is my best bet to still be able to get some practice in.
You sir, are pretty good! I was in fact playing (or trying to play) In Bloom. I'm so out of practice tho. I'm going to be moving into a house where my room will be on the 2nd floor. So I think I'll likely rework the design a bit. Definitely going to use smaller holes for the tennis balls.
The 2" worked great. Just built something like this and used your recommendations.
Hello. I've decided to build the platform for my edrum too. But i want to put my drum throne on it. Can the platform carry me (198 lbs) and my drum yamaha dtxtreme. Of course i will use larger mdfs than yours but i wonder that if tennis balls will damage or not? Btw thanks for video 😉
I definitely think it's possible with a modified design. You'll weigj more than the kit (I imagine). So the platform will shift towards you when the balls compress. Maybe more balls under the throne?
I think I said this in the video but make the holes smaller so the balls don't sink too far into them. You can make the holes bigger but its hard to make them smaller.
You can maybe save on mdf and only use the top platform. If you don't move it around a lot. I saw another design that did this. I'm not sure how much it would impact the dampening. There's a few more good designs on TH-cam so def check out others and take the best parts of each.
@@BallisticTech thanks for reply. All informations you gave are going to be usefull. Thanks.
you can buy smaller drill and make a new holes in between the balls
That's actually a really good point I didn't think of. Thanks for watching and posting!
Great! U should make more like videos
Good job!
Your next project should be the building of side panels to completely enclose the set; if these were effective enough they could be paid for by not buying practice pads, mufflers and cymbals.
Poisonous too.
Dude this video is awesome and you explain everything so well. Thanks for uploading!
Great video, well explained and kudos for sharing mistakes so others may learn. The carpet pun and the Wu Tang were just just showing off... :) #ILoveAGoodPun
You really don't need to go through all this expense and trouble. I got 1" rubber interlocking mats for home gyms from Xspec on Amazon. Downstairs neighbor says 0 vibrations now. 12x 2x2ft squares for $100
Cool. made a video and share it. Make all the TH-cam money
Dude @ 6:45 LMFAO
Nice
this is great!
I'm going to make one, but not for a drumkit.
LOVE YOUR VID XD
great vid±±!!!!! thanks!!!!
Thumbs up!
What's the deal, just get pool noodles cut lengthwise and put plywood on it.
Why not try twice as many balls with no holes. Just strong glue. And a dense piece of foam under the platform
Will it still work of im a fatass?
You aren't supposed to put your throne on the platform. You raise the throne to a comfortable height. (Does that answer your question?)
You got incredibly ripped of for the price of that mdf dude. Mdf is really cheap wood and that shouldn't cost more than 12 bucks....
:) S2....
can you scream more?
ALWAYS!
Kermit
squash balls are better