How To Tell Your 5th Wheel Needs To Be Replaced? & Which Is Better, Fixed vs Sliding 5th Wheel?
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- How To Tell Your 5th Wheel Needs To Be Replaced? & Which Is Better, Fixed vs Sliding 5th Wheel?
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Thanks, Ryan, for the follow-up, excellent content, perfect quality video, and very informative information. Keep the videos coming!
Your camera person is so fantastic and patient.
You're a lifesaver thanks for the information. Had a truck there was so much slop in the 5 wheel, thought the Kingpin on the trailers were going to break, drove it for a whole year complaining about it to my company I drove for. They would never fix it , the company , said I complain too much about maintenance and they fired me. So after that, they finally replaced the fifth wheel plate and rails, the mechanic for the company only put in every other nut and bolt on the fram rails, the person that drove it next was shut down by Colorado. DOT. because of the missing nuts and bolts. Wish you had made this video about a year ago. I could have killed somebody , and the company would have just blamed me. You can't put a price tag on your CDL.
Man, you guys put out lots of money! Seems like all the You Tube truckers with trucks over 600k miles are always fixing something. The expenses for being a trucker are enormous. It has to pay well. Thanks.
Keeping an old truck going is way cheaper than buying a newer one.
I was quoted a new Jost 37U series fifth wheel at $3,800. I chose the rebuild kit and overnight shipping of parts for about $600.
Where did you get the parts from
Ryan, I just want to tell you your videos are as useful and topical as any I've seen on TH-cam. Your content is primo. Keep it up. I'm not a trucker, but I learn about what my nephew does from you. Thanks.
A new cusion ring and jaw is $500. You don't need to take the top plate off to rebuild the 5th wheel. In less than an hour you can rebuild that 5th wheel. Jost has made these super easy to adjust and rebuild. Save your extra money for fuel.
Thanks Ryan, for this video you answered the problem I've been having with my fifthwheel. Looks like it's time to replace it. Keep schooling us DYI'ers we appreciate you, you are a blessing.
I am glad to hear the video is helpful! 👍
Your info on the mechanics is always helpful and needed.
Thank you for the information and love your videos!
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great info thanks
Great stuff and explanation man. For some1 new in the industry every little helps.
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One more good reason to have a sliding 5th wheel is, you can get your trailer closer to the truck for better air flow / fuel mileage
Get 12000 lbs on steer to maximize the gross weight. My truck weighs 18000 lbs. I pull Alot of 40ft Tri axle trailers. it helps with the trailer pushing you in the curves and rain.
I have same issue, but wasn't jaws, it was bushings, my advice before replacing fifth wheel, check out bushings
You have the voice of the dullest 1985 educational video instructor that teaches us 3 hours of the exciting world of math
Great video bud I drive a tank got this "new" truck noticed the surge hits hard sound amd feels like something gonna break well I noticed today when I looked back the dam things moving a bunch company truck so well see if it gets fixed
I like a long slide blockable 48" tall air slide. In 28yrs in a truck the above setup can pull everything. And I need 15 ft from kingpin to centerline of steer axle.
In a Small bunk Cabover.
If your pulling older trailers get a kingpin go/nogo gauge. I pull new old all the above.
Thanks for the great video
You are welcome!
Another great video.
Thank you!
Worn trl king pins also cause that. I order hollands cause you can adjust them 3 times
Yeah you feel the load snatch! I know what you’re trying to say dude!
Lol I thought my power divider was bad spent over 1000$ but I believe this is my problem I feel the slack on low gears
I used to rebuild my Holland 5th wheels but once the slider developed a bunch of slack which can't be fixed, I just decided to shuck the whole thing, went to Kenworth and bought a brand new JOST 5th wheel and slider assembly. I love their product.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hey Ryan I hope all is well with you and your family, who do you recommend to buy a reliable freightliner with a DD15 13 speed Manual, from a truck sales company or dealer? This will be my first truck
When you have that slop with the 5th wheel and kingpin and it's not greased properly what type of issues will you experience when offset backing?
Hey bro, what if I didn't grease my 5th wheel properly, and the trailer actually shaved metal off the 5th wheel?? Only on the ends though, is that ok?? The 5th wheel is new.
Can a kingpin put a hole in the fifth wheel plate ?
A mechanic told me the plate can wear thin and even wear a hole in it.
Like a break drum, the plate has a minimum clearance.
Can the whole mechanism be move forward?? I just bought a truck and it seems to be way back.
I have like same problem but I took your tight for the bolt??
Adjust the slop in the jaws with the nut on the front of the 5th wheel. Also check for solid hook up by making sure the nut is seated back against the 5th wheel. Does yours not have the adjustment rod/nut?
Holland has the rod with nut sticking out the front. Ryan has a Jost fifth wheel
Ryan, great videos! My go to mx place. Thanks. I have a question regarding 5th wheel placement. So are King Pins alwasy built in the same place or same measurement from the front of the trailer? And so then how do you figure where to mount a fifth will slider plate? I have seem some on a 3-axle tractor that looked way too far forward. And the sliding portion was very short (back and forwards). I have seem some tractors where the 5th wheel was way the heck back. (i realized you dont scale out w the 5th wheel like that). But how do you know when is right or not right? And how hard is it have the whole kit moved back ?l Thanks I guess you need a whole "5th Wheel School " video!!
All of that depends on what type of trailer you'll be pulling. When pulling open deck trailer you might need more space between the cab and trailer for front overhang. With an rgn (removable gooseneck) you might need it to be at the tail of the truck so the drives will clear the deck when turning.
The plate is the cushion ring or top plate cushion ring I see alot of them that are cracked n broken
My 5th wheel stays horizontal after unhitching. Is something wrong with it?
Hi Ryan, I just recently bought my first used truck and everything seems to be fine so far until I noticed that the 5th wheel is completely flat and it stays flat when its normal position supposed to be tilted down when not hitched to anything. I know some people lock the tilting function on their 5th wheels when hooking up the truck to frameless trailers and thus the 5th wheel will have some modification to accomplish that. However, I looked at mine and it seems stock with no modifications. I have a JOST 5th wheel like yours... so is my tilting seized and needs some sort of repair or does it need to be hooked up to a trailer and give it some flexing by going in and out of driveways to loosen it up? Your input will be greatly appreciated Ryan
Sorry for the delay! Is it a new 5th wheel? Mine was a little stiff until I worked it a little bit.
@@truckingandfixing No, it’s not new.
I'm having an issue with my fifth wheel I can take a crowbar and actually lift it off the rail should I tighten it down or replace the whole fifth wheel 🤔
So my fifth wheel will not lock or unload automatically, I have to pull or push the pin manually , I have been driving like that for many years, does that mean it’s a bad fifth wheel?
You float the gears
Root beer float.
Hey Ryan! Where did you purchase your 5th Wheel?
Kenworth at Canton Ohio
What's the ideal thing to do with that plate that's left behind since you're replacing it with a new one??? Can you get money back out of it???
I took mine to scrap yard.
Yup just replace the whole fifth wheel I agree. 👍🚛
Floating the gears . Question why put 40 plus in a trailer. I'm glad I dont put more than 20 to 25,000 happy trails
They had me change my trailer kingpin🤔
What did it cost ya? I think mine needs to be replaced. If so I'm getting a new top plate as well.
To make it simple your kingpin will have play Inside the jaws of the 5th wheel Then you have to change that 5th wheel because it has that play there
My son having this problem right now with his fifth wheel
There's supposed to be plastic bushing in top Plate you can replace them fir 70$
You grind the gears
You supposed adjusted or rebuild fifth weels
Bro Bad fifth wheel or kingpin can effect to transmission or engine?
It can affect the driveline. Every time the weight shifts, it will shock the driveline, transmission and clutch.
I replaced my 5th wheel then about 6 months I started having the same jerking
Its a lot more than an extra 400 for a complete 5th wheel, dealer wants 5k found another place for 4k
You FLOAT them
We aaallllllllll FLOAT down here! And you’ll FLOAT too Georgie!
Where is ur shop located? Which city which state?
We are located in Ravenna Ohio
Thanks for your helpful video, please help me on how to know which bushings I need for my fifth wheel on a 2017 PETERBILT 579, thanks
I see that landstar trailer in the background!
5th wheels are super easy to adjust. When they run out of adjustment you can rebuild it easily and cheaply. Just get the service instructions from the manufacturer. It's hard to believe any mechanic would replace a top plate just because the old one needs a new spring and an adjustment.
Mine getting a little sloppy....are they really that easy to adjust? I might try doing it myself too.
@@dalephillips8250 A big wrench that fits the nut on the front of the wheel. Adjust while pinned on an empty trailer. Dont get it too tight. I allow 1/2" of slop. We are only allowed 1" of slop.
@@swamprat69er thanks
top plate is 1500 backs so....
My son having this problem right now with his fifth wheel
My son having this problem right now with his fifth wheel
My son having this problem right now with his fifth wheel
My son having this problem right now with his fifth wheel