Never believed in ancient machines, but this is pretty nuts. Even the faces. I've been making pencil drawn portraits for 15 years and even with a compass and ruler, i can't do it like that. They did it in stone. in 3D. Not a single mistake was made. Thousands of times. One of the few guys who comes with some real cases in this matter.
they made mistakes.... i found a video where they did the the flip test, they were very close but not perfect, for what its made out of one could say it was perfect, but this is US vs some of the founders of math lol.
@@MudDuckGames That's one thing that bothers me. I've seen art that was absolutely perfect and then there are very crude writings on it. Temple of Serapis is a great example. It really looks like there was a people with very high skills that are still unmatched, but it is mixed in with other cultures. That's why i love this kind of research. Professionals really looking into this and separating these clearly different cultures.
Still doesn’t explain how they moved 2.3 MILLION stones some weighing as much as 100,000 POUNDS 500 MILES from the Nile river and then UP A MASSIVE slope like that.
They clearly were engineers and construction experts. Just because they didn’t have a bogus piece of paper from a modern college doesn’t mean they weren’t.
Yeah, it's almost as if we had people just as intelligent and creative as today, but they were transported back to a time where there were very limited building materials and tools.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Every engineer has a degree. Most go for their masters. Also this was 4500 years before the age of science.
My Kelvinator refrigerator was manufactured before 1983 - because that's when the company went bust. By my eye, it's a late 70's model. It is still in working order. Today, just 4 decades later, you would be very hard pressed to find a 20 year old refrigerator that is still running. I mention this because I don't agree that it is 'odd' that older pyramids were better made than newer ones. The reduction in quality could easily be attributed to deterioration of values, corruption of guilds (unions), or scarcity of resources. In point of fact, the best pyramid might have been constructed at a time when small industry (that produced the vases) was already in decline. Why would you pay a fortune for a handmade Japanese comb that takes ages to produce when you could buy a cheap knockoff for a fraction of the price? This very decline in consumer goods (like vases) has occurred in an age where our skyscrapers just get better and better.
Did they not use the layered technique which kind of makes it symmetrical. Meaning a flat layer over a flat layer until it resembles the face and then just using simple tools to clean and polish the statue. Strangely it was in encyclopedia books in the 90s and nothing is mentioned on the web about it in current times. Curious.
@@gorefsgo9806 I'm sure you could produce something like that with tech today we literally have software that does what he described and flips the symmetry of faces to match the other. Get advanced enough we can 3d print these things.
@@AdriansCreatures There is pyramids that had different designs and there are litteral failed attempts like the bent pyramid of Snefrou. Also there were unfinished ones but now 4000 years later they just look like a pile or rocks
Imagine if it's actually true and the ancient civilizations really were far more technologically advanced than we are right now. I mean some of the ancient sculptures and structures have been made in such ways that even the best construction company in the world would struggle to build similar things. Some artifacts are just completely unexplainable based on the assumption that the ancient civilizations were "primitive" and had no technology.
Just because they could make sand castles and played with rocks doesn’t mean they were far more technically advanced than we are now, I mean shit, they didn’t have TH-cam or Twitter. Now that’s advanced
@@TillURide420you’re out of touch with reality. the great pyramid is 3/16 of 1° off from true north and they did that without a compass. furthermore, it is impossible to move a 70 ton stone to 350 feet in the air (which it is confirmed there are 70 ton stones in the kings chamber, that high off the ground) without machinery. the degree of the slope to push blocks that heavy that high is literally statistically impossible. be serious. there’s clearly some some technology they had that we don’t. we would have significant trouble recreating the great pyramid today with all the tech we have, but you’re telling me they just looked up at the sky and guessed and just happen to build the most geologically accurate structure of that scale in ancient times?? yeah ok
My theory I've held all my life, over 50 yrs, being fascinated by the pyramids, Sphinx, statues, 100% stone cities, on plateaus, sides of mountains..etc Is we're looking at it backwards, we say "they were before us, so they weren't as capable, smart, technically advanced as we are today. But how come we can't come close to that perfection today? Because they were more advanced than we are today, it's our future we're seeing remnants of from our past. Think about our structures, tall buildings, houses made of manufactured concrete, wood, steel..etc nice designs, but fires, earthquakes, natural disasters destroy, level our towns & cities.. But what if in future we realized the safest most efficient way to live is build living, working spaces into what nature already provides. Blend with what's their already. These stone cities are still standing, fire, flood, hurricanes, tornados can't hardly damage them. Earthquakes & massive ground movements would be most dangerous. Maybe they had way better technologies, but lived more efficiently, and we have it all wrong. Thousands of years before us doesn't mean less capable than us. It may mean we haven't got back to that point again in our future? We'll eventually go instinct, and the cycle starts over again?.
I will never understand how in a field that is literally made up to make discoveries and record history but when new discoveries are found they dismiss them? wouldnt they be like "HOLLLLY shit no way! wtf is that lets keep digging?".... its so odd that leaders in the field of digging shit up and exploring dont want to acknowledge things they didnt personally dig up? idk
We live in an artificial, unnatural society that tries to suppress people and keep them confused and timid. The world is not what they advertised to you as a kid.
Thats what I find interesting about thinking about thousands of 100s of thousands of years ago. People have probably been about as smart as they are now for say 200,000 years. But back then they'd only have made houses out of wood, toys out of wood, cutlery and plates out of wood etc everything won't exist now but you feel like they definitely had that kind of stuff.
Just my experience, a group of friends would meet at the creek every Sunday. Without fail at some point at least one person in the group will either stack rocks, or move rocks to make a dam, or a seat.....it's like it's natural reaction when we are around rocks to arrange them. I believe our civilization has a lot of lost history. People are capable of incredible things. Never underestimate the power of a group of people that get bored.
3:25 This is not true. You can make a perfect cut in a rock by hammering a few nails in the line you want the cut to be and eventually it will break open clean. th-cam.com/video/jbtBRvqAFPA/w-d-xo.html
@@Relax0kay I'm not saying they didn't have a better method than us.......really it's pretty obvious at some point, someone figured out how to cut and move rocks, and stack rocks better than we ever did. To me it seems perfectly reasonable that someone in the past had figured out something we haven't. Especially about stacking rocks. Resonant frequency generator might take cutting, moving, and stacking rocks to a whole new level. If we can make it another 10 years or so, I bet there is going to be some really wild stuff released on the ol' resonant frequency front.
There were teams of artists, all working together the same style for thousands of years. Craftsmen and artists cities full of workmen, that's how. The Greeks when asked about their incredible statues, temples and monuments said "We learned from the Egyptians"
Also, these things about alignments, such as the sphinx is aligned to the Leo constellation 10,000 years ago so that must be it's date... that's dumb for them to assert. The Egyptians didn't start using astrology for alignments purposes until the hellenistic period, around 280 b.c. That's 9000 years and change before the Egyptians started aligning things to the constellations. Imagine two workers in 10,000 b.c., and one says "we're gotta align this thing to Leo".... the other responds "what's the hell is Leo?".... "I don't know. Just start building". Like, why would they align the sphinx 9000 years before they took notice of that stuff? But people like these two and graham Hancock won't tell you about this. Even though they know about it. The Egyptians were told about predicting the stars from a traveler. In the hellenistic period. Thats when they were informed you could predict and track star movements in the sky. So they started aligning structures to the stars.
I think they have no idea of using templates, if they do they should have found evidence that they've use it, all they say is it was carved by hands, also this youtube link is the explanation of precision and accuracy about the vases and their argument of it cant be done by hands as explained by mainstream archaeologist. th-cam.com/video/WAyQQRNoQaE/w-d-xo.html
The level of narcissism is shocking. You have to be incredibly conceded to deny that 40-50 years of mastering your craft is not enough for high levels of detail. I guarantee 2000%that this is due to levels of dedication we cannot fathom today.
Joes Question at 3:51 makes me think of a joke of his from one of his stand ups. The one about the stone workers out F'ing the smart race just out bred them, now were stupid LOL. He's also a great comedian for anyone who thought he was just a show host, and fight commentary :]
You can measure symmetry of an object with a pair of sticks. Matching up two sides of an object with hand tools is a standard task for any artisian. A Pharoah would easily have resources to support a legion of artisians dedicating their entire career to carving stone.
if you know how long it takes for iron to rust into nothing you should know its bs to think we would ever find any tools or weapons from the time the pyramids and the rest of ancient egypt was really built
Even if that were true, how did they move these blocks, especially the ones made for the pyramid that are 100,000 pounds 500 miles from the Nile river to the location of the pyramids, and then move those said blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
We have no fucking clue. We think we do but this planet has changed so much and so drastically over it’s lifespan. Continents have shifted and reformed and changed their make up. The planet has been pummeled with meteors and comets there’s been winds and floods, fires and disasters we can only dream of. So much history has been wiped clean and we’re really just grasping at straws. Who knows what creatures once lived, or the size of them? Who knows who’s visited here or evolved far past where we’re at now? What kind of science or technology they’ve had or what kind of manipulation of matter they were capable of. The fact that things they find seem to “get worse” over time tells you we’ve clearly been more advanced at times and have had to start over if you will. Imagine if Adam and Eve Story is real and this planet “resets” itself magnetically every 6000 plus years or so? Like I said we have no real clue and that’s why it’s all so fascinating!
One thing today’s humans don’t seem to get: people living during these times could become experts in their fields easier than we can. Typically, people learned a particular trade and only that trade. They were able to spend every waking minute devoted to improving their craft. They didn’t have to go to baseball practice or get home in time to watch their favorite shows. They didn’t have the amount of distractions we have, nor did they need to devote as much time to studying other subjects that had nothing to do with their craft.
@@rickybobby7276 I gotta disagree. Most of us have 2-3 jobs before landing on a career path and most of us embark on several careers. And all of us wound up doing some kind of extra curricular activity (sports usually) that distracts us from school and work. Back in the day, you started carpentry as a teenager and never looked back.
Tutankhamun's meteoric iron dagger, also known as Tutankhamun's iron dagger and King Tut's dagger, is an iron-bladed dagger from the tomb of the ancient Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun
Yes, but that was meteoric. They had to find it. It was exceedingly rare. They didn't have iron tools or anything like that. They couldn't make iron themselves -- it's very difficult. We are talking about the Egyptians here, not the previous technological civilization.
@@Terra_Lopez That, and King Tut was from much later in Egyptian history than the purported date of the megalithic structures like the pyramids. The accepted dawn of the Iron Age from the previous Bronze Age was approximately 1,200 B.C.
I don't know what metal this guy was using but he's shown to split rock with a sledge and wedge/spike. Not that's its impossible but it's probable to do it by hands in my opinion.
It's the precision that makes people believe maybe they had more modern-style tools back then. Sure you could split a rock with a rock, but granite is another story.
The harder the material is, the easier it is to split it precisely, and the larger your margin of error is because it takes longer to make a fatal error when your working with something very hard.
But wouldn’t explain how they moved 100,000 pound blocks 500 MILES from the Nile river to the location of the pyramids, and then CARRY those blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
The tools were taken back to where they came from. Additional pyramids and structures had to be made in other places around the world. Like with other building projects around the world, the builders took their tools with them when the job was finished…..and they went home….not knowing that thousands of years later others would take credit for their work.
I think some other race of people built my house, because I don’t see their hammers and tape measures laying around in my yard. They were so advanced that I didn’t find a single tool belt.
@Lauren Urban then they would have found them in masonry or tooling shops where these tools would have been made, repaired, etc. Or at least some documentation/pictographs showing these tools and how they were used. There's NOTHING.
There are other examples that this guy cites that give me pause. But this symmetrical monument example just tells me: he doesn't know how to draw, doesn't know how to measure, doesn't know how to sculpt, and can't imagine a day before distractions like television.
@@bradley3549 you can be as smart as you want, but without a society, how do you develope tools and craftsmanship to the level that the old dynastic Egyptians were at? There was obviously (to me) a successful society before the kemets.
@@bigtimber I don't think anybody is reasonably saying otherwise. Clearly there was a high level of sophistication. The idea that over 5,000 years ago people were cave men and then BOOM suddenly they built a giant pyramid out of nowhere is frankly as ridiculous as suggesting the pyramids were made by Aliens.
Uh shooting from the hip here, but if I was going to carve a stone face, I would first layout a grid, with a centerline. And then pull dimensions from the center to either side. So it would be symmetrical.
@@daebak7370 Comparative measurement and simple geometry is hardly an advanced concept for ANY civilization capable of building basic structures. It's not rocket science and can be done with nothing more advanced than a stick and a rock to mark it.
When I heard his accent, I thought he'd be involved with the channel debunking these very ideas: youtube.com/@SacredGeometryDecoded I think the explanation is that these people were as clever as we are today (it was only a few 1000 years ago and we build skyscrapers, etc) so... they found a way. It was probably everything to them, like the builders of stonehenge ...there was nothing more important in their lives.
As an artist I feel justifiable in saying... People who aren't artist don't understand the true talent one or multiple can hold. I fully believe dozens of artists came together to create this great magnificence piece, it truly meant something to them, hence the perfection. Humans hold so many talents within them, tired of historians lacking belief in what we can do with what we are handed. I don't believe our idea of machines or "aliens" had any intervention. It's purely human God given talent.
Idc how much god given talent anyone has … no artist can even make a perfectly symmetrical circle in a piece of paper .. how in the hell would they chisel a rock into a perfectly symmetrical face that is the size of a vehicle
i’m so sick of people talking like they have the answer but can’t prove shit. they don’t do anything and yet they gave the audacity to dismiss all the work these researchers do with one statement. oh, it’s plan human God given talent. were you there?????????? you were alive then????????? you stood there watching as the pyramids were being constructed???????? how do you know? you don’t, so don’t talk like you were there. there are millions of people, if not billions, that wonder how many things were done so many years ago, but you talk like you have the answer with God’s given talent. these people live their lives researching and traveling, studying, and they journal all their thoughts and discoveries. people like you dismiss all that hard work. they can stop searching now, they have you. well, show us what you’ve done that’s so perfect since you’re an artist and have the skills. gather another 99 artists and create an exact copy…..until then your words mean nothing. “they, whoever they are”, they created a “perfect” that statue. “YOU SAY” it’s artists, sooooo show us. don’t talk about it, don’t type d, stop speaking and typing AND, DO IT ! “SHOW US “YOUR” PERFECT STATUE” now you have a very important job to do. this will put you in the history books for sure. put your hands where your mouth is with your God given talent. i want you to shut my mouth by creating your perfect statue that matches that one.
I believe there's a bunch of history we don't know, whether aliens, or cyclical society... But THIS argument always makes me roll my eyes: "it's so perfect it couldn't have been done"... People back then were just as smart as we are now, and why do we always assume they only used chisels? Look at the work done in ancient Greece with rulers and compasses. It's amazing stuff.
Greek were using limestone and marble that are 3 on Mohs scale in Egypt lot of work was done with granite , granodiorite that are 7 on Mohs scale that is a complete world apart
Not to that extent. The egyptian statues are mathematically, robotical symmetrical. humans work differently, see michelangelo. but youdont want to see whats obvious, because you are an elitist snob.
There was an entire work class artisans. Want a modern equivalent look at Mount Rushmore. That was made by people hanging off the edge suspended by ropes. Go back to Roman times, they carved massive statues by hand. Why does the Egyptian statues have to made by advanced technology that was somehow lost? Why haven’t they been found? Yes technology is lost because of war and other factors but there is always some sort evidence left.
They can make a template/ profile of one side of the face and just flip it over for the opposite side of the face. They could use multiple templates for the one face. Horizontal and vertical
I think they have no idea of template if they do they have dug evidence that they use it all they say is its carve by hands also this is the explanation of precision and accuracy about the vases and their argument of it cant be done by hands as the explained currently th-cam.com/video/WAyQQRNoQaE/w-d-xo.html
Even if that were true, how did they move these blocks, especially the ones made for the pyramid that are 100,000 pounds 500 miles from the Nile river to the location of the pyramids, and then move those said blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
Let’s see sound lift heavy stones then. Do it and put it on TH-cam so we can see how sound lifts a 10 ton slab of granite up in the air or moves it along the ground. This I’ve got to see. I’m willing to be open minded …..demonstrate the process.
My theory I've held all my life, over 50 yrs, being fascinated by the pyramids, Sphinx, statues, 100% stone cities, on plateaus, sides of mountains..etc Is we're looking at it backwards, we say "they were before us, so they weren't as capable, smart, technically advanced as we are today."" But how come we can't come close to that perfection today? Because they were more advanced than we are today, it's our future we're seeing remnants of from our past. Think about our structures, tall buildings, houses made of manufactured concrete, wood, steel..etc nice designs, but fires, earthquakes, natural disasters destroy, level our towns & cities.. But what if in future we realized the safest most efficient way to live is build living, working spaces into what nature already provides?. Blend with what's their already. These stone cities are still standing, fire, flood, hurricanes, tornados can't hardly damage them. Earthquakes & massive ground movements would be most dangerous. Maybe they had way better technologies, but lived more efficiently, and we have it all wrong. Thousands of years before us doesn't mean less capable than us.
"You can't achieve that kind of symmetry by just eyeballing it" Who the hell suggested they were eyeballing it. There's a channel called Scientists Against Myths, where they work granite with copper. Worth checking out, as it shows that granite can be worked and it's not such a mystery.
That channel is for the uneducated that have no idea what they're looking at. They use C clamps on a bench to assist their cutting and guide their copper tool. We know what type of granite the egyptians carved, granite ranges in hardness by the type of granite. Egyptians used rose quartz and harder. "Scientists against myths use random slabs". Again watch their videos and really look at their experiments, none of them are honest but they do a good job of fooling uneducated viewers like yourself.
"It should be pointed out that the precision of ancient Egyptian masonry is usually exaggerated. Most of it is quite rough, with the more precise parts limited to facings and stones meant to be visible. That said, where they did go in for fine stonework, it was done with simple tools and a lot of labor. We’ve got pretty good if indirect knowledge of Egyptian masonry techniques: hammers, chisels, levers, copper drills, “saws” in the form of devices used to grind away at stone with abrasive sand, and wooden posts made to swell with water to rough out and split off blocks, then more of the same, with more grinding involved to more precisely shape them. I’m aware that some modern people are incredulous that this is possible, but the evidence is there. These are exactly the same techniques used by masons from the Greeks and Romans through the Renaissance to shape the same range of stones with the same kinds of precision, and we know how they did it because they wrote more or less extensively about it. Indeed, later peoples did far more complex work with those techniques, like the absurdly complicated optical corrections in Greek and Roman temples, requiring both great precision and subtle curves rather than the straight lines and right angles of most Egyptian masonry. And while we don’t have direct textual evidence for these techniques from Egyptian sources, we do have indirect evidence in the form of unfinished stones in Egyptian quarries which display the kinds of conditions we’d expect from use of those techniques. It’s quite clear that it can be done by hand, but it requires significant skill and massive effort." Matt Rigsby, Boston U archaeologist
Ok if that's how they shaped them, how did they lift 70 ton stones onto a barge/raft, float it down a river then lift it off, and after all that they move them into place with out chipping them. That's what I want to know
I am a stonemason and I hear you, but I also agree about the official history being unaccurate and that working on granit with copper and stones is complete nonsense. However this guy does not understand what humans can achive with time and will. We are talking about generations of talented stonemasons, who perfected their techniques over a long peroid of time and imported knowledge from the Sumerian. This is where our decimal and sexagesimal systems are coming from.
Any information on the 360 Neters or "360 principles of divine creation " that the Shemsu Hor lived by. I know they believe us to have 365 senses instead of 5 but finding info on the 360 Neters is hard to come across.
People had already made their conclusions back then. They wrote it off as "God" doing his thing. Ever since then, people didn't analyze what was happening. Now all the sudden people are phasing out from the blur of belief and are intrigued by these sculptures and materials because they value evidence and proof.
Smart people already know there's only two ways the pyramids could have been built. Aliens did it or white people from the lost city of Atlantis taught them how to do it
Yeah, it was maddening to watch Schermer change the definition of Hunter Gatherer cultures just so he didn’t have to admit he was wrong. Also, if archeology is so damn convinced that hunter gatherers made Gobekli Tepe, then they should talk to the Pigmy’s in the Congo, which are some of the few hunter gather cultures left on Earth, and ask if they could build it. Their answer, “uh… no, we don’t have the time or manpower”, will force archeology to admit they have no clue what they’re talking about
I love how they keep avoiding the Aliens theory. . But to be honest to keep referring to ultrasound machines and a undiscovered technology is even more kooky then saying it was Aliens 🤣it’s obvious these advanced beings took their tools and Tech with them. The scary thing is if they were that advanced back then imagine what these Beings can do now. Just think they watch us and we can’t even detect they are in our presence. See Dark Skies
Yarpin that is just as ignorant as people saying if there are no advanced tools left for us to see then they didn't have them back then.I see points to both sides though I mean nobody really knows shit maybe aliens seeded life on this planet and put the pyramids there to fuck with us lol probably not but who knows for sure.
You can use measuring tools in the carving process to make it symmetrical. Michelangelo didnt have symmetry because that wasn't the style or intent, but I'm certain he could have done it that way if he chose to. The tools needed though, in that time period, idk it's a conundrum.
There's a channel called World of Antiquity that pretty much debunked everything this guy is saying. If you listen carefully this guy makes so many assumptions it's laughable.
@@driti.s World of Antiquity is activist first and historian second, and is absolutely not trustworthy either. You kinda cant debunk what you see yourself.
@@michaelmyrvang9028 I've seen both sides and world of antiquity is spot on with everything. I mean they straight up lie about many things, like the whole world has a flood myth when it actually doesn't. Or they can't cut some with their tools when they could and many more straight up bull*hit. I've seen almost every video of graham hancock and after reading a bit on his claims I'm sorry but little to none stands. He even contradicts himself on many occasions.
You indeed can achieve this level of symmetry by eyeballing and doing it by hand. These dudes use their own experience to judge what others can accomplish when in reality they are not skilled craftsman whatsoever.
Thanks, guy on the internet commenting! You solved that for me. Im sold. Thanks for your educated input. These guys are wrong. And you, random guy on the internet commenting, are right. Cuz… you just are… huh… shmart guy… glad theres genius’s out there like you to correct educated people… 😂
Has anyone thought that maybe artificial intelligence is what made those statues symmetrical? Or maybe it was done by somebody who isn't an artist and they're using a tool to make it like that. I don't think any artist would make it like that.
@@CringeLord-dr8pe 'possible' in the same way that its possible they were designed by a sentient bowl of spaghetti lol The guy has no idea how much these civilisations knew about mathematics, geometry and construction.
I am 100% certain that these could not be carved by cavemen, but my problem is we have not found one high tech tool to validate any of this. If they were suddenly wiped out we should and would have found some of these high tech machines that they would have used.
You are correct on both, Egyptians were far from cavemen, and no machines have been found, that's why archeologist dismiss the claims, when they have proof they admit it, just look at gobekli tepe, these guys get mad at being dismissed and not one of them has solid proof, I suggest watching scientis against myth, they do a ton of experiments, and have a full analysis on core number 7 not being a spiral...
After watching alot of these people , I wonder if the technology is underneath the ocean and in the core gone so we can't find it and it's always a open thought . It's 2023 and I think it's just not gonna be easy to find if we haven't already found a trace
There's an iron mine right next to one of the pyramids. And we know they worked meteoric iron. I think they had iron tools which would explain how they did it. Like they could have just used iron for the tips of chisels and such.
I don’t see why more people don’t consider this as the best explanation. It’s not really earth shattering, and doesn’t really mean that iron was available for everyone.
@@ShlomoWeasenthal Like the way that a diamond tipped tool turns itself in reverse and destroys itself? Or is it more like the granules on a piece of sandpaper turning themselves around to destroy the sandpaper? Wait no, it must be like when you put a hard clearcoat overtop of your fingernail polish, and then it turns around and destroys your fingers.
The thing about Stone Masons today aren’t working/thinking in construction that takes generations. I’d just think that would play a massive role in the conversation. ( repairing something centuries old, using old techniques but trying to finish in your life time, or in months/years. Is going to be so much different than working on something that you know won’t be finished in your life time, that your great grandfather, grand father, father then you, your son, your grandson, your great grand son and so on are going to be working on) Even grand buildings in the EU took multiple centuries. With arts and skills, it only improves over time especially when those things are passed down from father to son. This also increases the dedication/effort, patience and care. Another thing, is even look at monuments of the current era. The Washington Monument wasn’t finished for an extremely long time. It was actually the shameful stub of the USA for a long time. It would only make sense, that they would gotten A LOT of practice, and training prior to working on it. There’s a famous story of a pope looking for great artwork, a famous artist was asked to create something, he drew a perfect circle, offering it to the messenger. The messenger was concerned, “a circle?! How can I give this to the pope?!” The artist told him, tell the pope how I did it. The pope was amazed beyond belief. The accuracy of free hand circles is insane. Honestly, humans while being faulty can also be extremely impressive. Acting as if they couldn’t plan, that workers wouldn’t have put an ungodly amount of effort in, especially when building something for their god king. Look at what humans dedicate to gods they can’t see/prove or just have visions of. So just imagine, the dedication of one that you could actually potentially see.
The mainstream explanation (fringe science actually) from egyptologists and historians is the straight definition of "incompetency". Like literally, you have one job and you miserably fail at it for whatever reason. And this is the same for Wikipedia which is now the exact opposite of what it was supposed to be. We should never forget who those "mainstream guys" are and what they are doing as a great example of how to prevent human civilization to learn more about its past and learn new technologies.
Yes someone else did, with earlier tech that no one knows about because there is no evidence of the lost civilization or their tech other than some simple minded theories of "well the Egyptians could not do it so someone BEFORE them had to, with more advanced technology than the people that came after them, leaving no trace of themselves or their tech, placing these monoliths in a way that a future could claim them as their own, hell the Egyptians could even read and replicate the ancient language that was carved into the Granite Steles that they could have not carved themselves, and make it their own language.
@@coreylee9342 We ourselves will leave no trace either, aside from perhaps Mount Rushmore, or the Hoover dam for a few centuries, before it fails without maintenance and management. The Empire State Building won't last a century or two without us. None our skyscrapers will. What is more logical? The prevailing theory that despite going from horses to the moon in 200 years, we ran about the earth as nothing more than bald chimps for 200,000 years, just as smart was we are today, with the exact same DNA? Or maybe the alternate theory that known global calamities, with geological records of their occurrence, repeatedly started mankind over, when cities and civilizations were destroyed by weather events?
Did they cut and carve a whole 10ton granite block with it? I'd like to see that. I'd REALLY like to see how they carved out the floor and polished for a perfectly dimensioned single-piece box...
I don't think hunter gathers had time to build structure's of this magnitude. If you look at tribes that still live like this their life consists of waking up go hunting come home eat celebrate go to bed wake up do it again. Where is the time for building.
They sing they dance they make elaborate costumes, paint there body's and cave walls make jewelry,do drugs. Lots of things that aren't essential for existence.
@@johncarroll772 No, seriously. Mysticism and Esoteric disciplines are the foundation for the science that we use today. As well as religion and psychology. Cosmic laws are under no obligation to make sense to you... “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” Sound familiar? It's as if science is just now proving its predecessors. Full circle.
The land was called Khemit before the Egyptians arrived. The oral traditions of the Egyptians say that the pyramids were already there when they came to the land. It was only after Western scholars arrived that we were given the history narrative that we still have today
Whatever caused the ice to melt almost instantly during the younger dryas, had to have had an effect on all stones worldwide. Wouldn't this have made stones much softer and easy to shape?
I am one of those proponents of the view that the megalithic structures were constructed during the Neolithic times by a technologically advanced civilization which was wiped out by catastrophic events.
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The Egyptian as well as other civilizations had access to some form of ancient technology and higher forms of wisdom and knowledge that have been lost to time. Where they got all that from is beyond me
Chumlee spent to much time at the Luxor
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They must have some heller-good tattoo removal technicians in Luxor as well......
We need to bring on the Sphinx to the podcast to debate this
Jamie see if you can pull that up.
Nah its just be more riddles and shit
@@alexgonzalez8954 all i can hear is AI joe saying that lol.
We need Assassins Creed to bring an Animus device into the studio.
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I love how Gobekli Tepe has the Phd's trying to reinvent hunter gatherers....instead of just moving the date back.
They are horrified over the prospect of rewriting the history books.
@@george6252 No they're not they do it all the time.
@@TheUnseenPathit's too bad they don't also update the implications of new finds
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Never believed in ancient machines, but this is pretty nuts. Even the faces. I've been making pencil drawn portraits for 15 years and even with a compass and ruler, i can't do it like that. They did it in stone. in 3D. Not a single mistake was made. Thousands of times. One of the few guys who comes with some real cases in this matter.
He's one of many, not one of few. You're just uneducated on the matter.
@@jamiew1286 Thank you for your support. I only have been researching this for 25 years. What do i know. I humbly bow down to your wisdom, lord Jamie.
While hanging from a rope 🤣
they made mistakes.... i found a video where they did the the flip test, they were very close but not perfect, for what its made out of one could say it was perfect, but this is US vs some of the founders of math lol.
@@MudDuckGames That's one thing that bothers me. I've seen art that was absolutely perfect and then there are very crude writings on it. Temple of Serapis is a great example. It really looks like there was a people with very high skills that are still unmatched, but it is mixed in with other cultures. That's why i love this kind of research. Professionals really looking into this and separating these clearly different cultures.
Imagine that people who culture revolved around stone work are better than us at stone work.... mind blower
Their culture didn't revolve around stonework....
Still doesn’t explain how they moved 2.3 MILLION stones some weighing as much as 100,000 POUNDS 500 MILES from the Nile river and then UP A MASSIVE slope like that.
Really? It's the thing that remains to be seen. Those Africans were more powerful than us back then. @stezenast5878
They clearly were engineers and construction experts. Just because they didn’t have a bogus piece of paper from a modern college doesn’t mean they weren’t.
Yeah, it's almost as if we had people just as intelligent and creative as today, but they were transported back to a time where there were very limited building materials and tools.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Every engineer has a degree. Most go for their masters. Also this was 4500 years before the age of science.
@@K.dot9 what science?
@@sigmundvonsieradz8569 all science?
@@rickymclachlan9622university science?
My Kelvinator refrigerator was manufactured before 1983 - because that's when the company went bust. By my eye, it's a late 70's model. It is still in working order. Today, just 4 decades later, you would be very hard pressed to find a 20 year old refrigerator that is still running. I mention this because I don't agree that it is 'odd' that older pyramids were better made than newer ones. The reduction in quality could easily be attributed to deterioration of values, corruption of guilds (unions), or scarcity of resources.
In point of fact, the best pyramid might have been constructed at a time when small industry (that produced the vases) was already in decline. Why would you pay a fortune for a handmade Japanese comb that takes ages to produce when you could buy a cheap knockoff for a fraction of the price? This very decline in consumer goods (like vases) has occurred in an age where our skyscrapers just get better and better.
The smallest pyramid probably took just as long as the great pyramid to build because rather than using sandstone to case it they used pink granite.
Did they not use the layered technique which kind of makes it symmetrical. Meaning a flat layer over a flat layer until it resembles the face and then just using simple tools to clean and polish the statue. Strangely it was in encyclopedia books in the 90s and nothing is mentioned on the web about it in current times. Curious.
Ancient aliens
Might have been debunked
Even if you wanted to .. with todays technology you cant produce something like this which would be as perfect as that one !
@@gorefsgo9806 I'm sure you could produce something like that with tech today we literally have software that does what he described and flips the symmetry of faces to match the other. Get advanced enough we can 3d print these things.
they used a grid thats all
Bruh you can literally see the failed attempts throughout Egypt of making Pyramids in all kinds of places. The ones in Giza are just the perfect ones.
that was the monkeys that came afterward trying to replicate master craft they can’t.
They aren’t “failed attempts” they are just weathered and not built the same, nothing indicates they are failed other than them not being as intact
@@AdriansCreatures No- actually- there ARE failed, abandoned half-built pyramids (remains of)....
@@AdriansCreatures There is pyramids that had different designs and there are litteral failed attempts like the bent pyramid of Snefrou. Also there were unfinished ones but now 4000 years later they just look like a pile or rocks
@@Relax0kay Those are made by dynastic egyptians the pre dynastic beings built the great ones, the inhertied them and tried to replicate them
Imagine if it's actually true and the ancient civilizations really were far more technologically advanced than we are right now. I mean some of the ancient sculptures and structures have been made in such ways that even the best construction company in the world would struggle to build similar things. Some artifacts are just completely unexplainable based on the assumption that the ancient civilizations were "primitive" and had no technology.
Just because they could make sand castles and played with rocks doesn’t mean they were far more technically advanced than we are now, I mean shit, they didn’t have TH-cam or Twitter. Now that’s advanced
@@TillURide420 If we were blown back to the stone age, there would be no evidence of the internet only whispers from survivors.
How is this Chumlee?
@@TillURide420you’re out of touch with reality. the great pyramid is 3/16 of 1° off from true north and they did that without a compass. furthermore, it is impossible to move a 70 ton stone to 350 feet in the air (which it is confirmed there are 70 ton stones in the kings chamber, that high off the ground) without machinery. the degree of the slope to push blocks that heavy that high is literally statistically impossible. be serious. there’s clearly some some technology they had that we don’t. we would have significant trouble recreating the great pyramid today with all the tech we have, but you’re telling me they just looked up at the sky and guessed and just happen to build the most geologically accurate structure of that scale in ancient times?? yeah ok
My theory I've held all my life, over 50 yrs, being fascinated by the pyramids, Sphinx, statues, 100% stone cities, on plateaus, sides of mountains..etc
Is we're looking at it backwards, we say "they were before us, so they weren't as capable, smart, technically advanced as we are today.
But how come we can't come close to that perfection today?
Because they were more advanced than we are today, it's our future we're seeing remnants of from our past.
Think about our structures, tall buildings, houses made of manufactured concrete, wood, steel..etc nice designs, but fires, earthquakes, natural disasters destroy, level our towns & cities..
But what if in future we realized the safest most efficient way to live is build living, working spaces into what nature already provides.
Blend with what's their already. These stone cities are still standing, fire, flood, hurricanes, tornados can't hardly damage them.
Earthquakes & massive ground movements would be most dangerous.
Maybe they had way better technologies, but lived more efficiently, and we have it all wrong.
Thousands of years before us doesn't mean less capable than us. It may mean we haven't got back to that point again in our future? We'll eventually go instinct, and the cycle starts over again?.
Denzel Washingtons face is almost perfectly symmetrical
Yes, but there's no video evidence of what technique they used to carve him
Steve Buscemi's face is perfectly asymmetrical
Joe, can you sometimes, show FULL SCREEN of those web images.
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I will never understand how in a field that is literally made up to make discoveries and record history but when new discoveries are found they dismiss them? wouldnt they be like "HOLLLLY shit no way! wtf is that lets keep digging?".... its so odd that leaders in the field of digging shit up and exploring dont want to acknowledge things they didnt personally dig up? idk
Think and research what those directly linked to this field would have to lose if things changed.
We live in an artificial, unnatural society that tries to suppress people and keep them confused and timid. The world is not what they advertised to you as a kid.
@@mitchdavis6001 What?
You obituary never seen The Exorcist. Shit all started with an archeological dig....
That’s a very similar case for science too. People identify with their views no matter who they are and what profession they have
There is a place in South Africa called "inzalo yelanga" aka Adams Calendar, I'd really love to hear Graham on it, it's 70 000 years old
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Thanks Joe. If there was steel tools 10k years ago they would have rusted away.
Thats what I find interesting about thinking about thousands of 100s of thousands of years ago. People have probably been about as smart as they are now for say 200,000 years. But back then they'd only have made houses out of wood, toys out of wood, cutlery and plates out of wood etc everything won't exist now but you feel like they definitely had that kind of stuff.
@celticbarry9877 totally agree... People have been here for a long time, and if there were others here before us we would never know
Just my experience, a group of friends would meet at the creek every Sunday. Without fail at some point at least one person in the group will either stack rocks, or move rocks to make a dam, or a seat.....it's like it's natural reaction when we are around rocks to arrange them. I believe our civilization has a lot of lost history. People are capable of incredible things. Never underestimate the power of a group of people that get bored.
Yeah bruh exactly. People just weren’t lazy back then because their bed was not comfortable anyways and there was nothing to watch on tv.
Also remember that they actually believed that Farao’s were gods so can you imagine how good they felt when they did something for their god.
3:25 This is not true. You can make a perfect cut in a rock by hammering a few nails in the line you want the cut to be and eventually it will break open clean. th-cam.com/video/jbtBRvqAFPA/w-d-xo.html
That may be true but I don't know what the hell that has to do with any anything that's going on
@@Relax0kay I'm not saying they didn't have a better method than us.......really it's pretty obvious at some point, someone figured out how to cut and move rocks, and stack rocks better than we ever did. To me it seems perfectly reasonable that someone in the past had figured out something we haven't. Especially about stacking rocks.
Resonant frequency generator might take cutting, moving, and stacking rocks to a whole new level. If we can make it another 10 years or so, I bet there is going to be some really wild stuff released on the ol' resonant frequency front.
Asking two nuts about the past is not a good idea 😂
era of stones, of course there will be lots of experts in stone sculptures, they could have been like genius stone masons at that time.
There were teams of artists, all working together the same style for thousands of years. Craftsmen and artists cities full of workmen, that's how. The Greeks when asked about their incredible statues, temples and monuments said "We learned from the Egyptians"
Also, these things about alignments, such as the sphinx is aligned to the Leo constellation 10,000 years ago so that must be it's date... that's dumb for them to assert.
The Egyptians didn't start using astrology for alignments purposes until the hellenistic period, around 280 b.c.
That's 9000 years and change before the Egyptians started aligning things to the constellations.
Imagine two workers in 10,000 b.c., and one says "we're gotta align this thing to Leo".... the other responds "what's the hell is Leo?".... "I don't know. Just start building".
Like, why would they align the sphinx 9000 years before they took notice of that stuff? But people like these two and graham Hancock won't tell you about this. Even though they know about it.
The Egyptians were told about predicting the stars from a traveler. In the hellenistic period. Thats when they were informed you could predict and track star movements in the sky. So they started aligning structures to the stars.
Joe be trolling with these guests. He knows it ain't real.
The next civilization after finding a print out of a picture of a famous rapper will think they are aliens haha
You mean Snoop Dogg?
There was meteoric Iron at the time.
But it was very rare and usually it was limited to royalty
you dont have to be an engineer to make a template of half a face to make a template of a whole face.
I think they have no idea of using templates, if they do they should have found evidence that they've use it, all they say is it was carved by hands, also this youtube link is the explanation of precision and accuracy about the vases and their argument of it cant be done by hands as explained by mainstream archaeologist. th-cam.com/video/WAyQQRNoQaE/w-d-xo.html
think more
@Jsg6 there are two hieroglyphs of stone drills. Sacred Geometry Decoded channel and scientists against myths channel have replicated.
Great. Now I have to delete my comment.
@@gigolo619 There are youtube videos showing perfectly drilled holes in rock using primative hand tools
The level of narcissism is shocking. You have to be incredibly conceded to deny that 40-50 years of mastering your craft is not enough for high levels of detail.
I guarantee 2000%that this is due to levels of dedication we cannot fathom today.
Conceited
Doesn’t matter how much time they put into their work it still doesn’t explain how they moved 100,000 pound blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
To have all the new technology we have and still not know how pyramids were built is amazing to me.
fax let them keep wondering
@@norulers too hotty
We know. Hell, the original inhabitants told herodutus how they were built. Small replicas were made and they would have worked.
@@kalestanforde hell even George floyd recalls that maraculas event
Joes Question at 3:51 makes me think of a joke of his from one of his stand ups. The one about the stone workers out F'ing the smart race just out bred them, now were stupid LOL. He's also a great comedian for anyone who thought he was just a show host, and fight commentary :]
You can measure symmetry of an object with a pair of sticks. Matching up two sides of an object with hand tools is a standard task for any artisian.
A Pharoah would easily have resources to support a legion of artisians dedicating their entire career to carving stone.
These things are symmetrical to a 3/1000" that's like half the thickness of a human hair......
if you know how long it takes for iron to rust into nothing you should know its bs to think we would ever find any tools or weapons from the time the pyramids and the rest of ancient egypt was really built
Tools my man are the issue 😉
Even if that were true, how did they move these blocks, especially the ones made for the pyramid that are 100,000 pounds 500 miles from the Nile river to the location of the pyramids, and then move those said blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
We have no fucking clue. We think we do but this planet has changed so much and so drastically over it’s lifespan. Continents have shifted and reformed and changed their make up. The planet has been pummeled with meteors and comets there’s been winds and floods, fires and disasters we can only dream of. So much history has been wiped clean and we’re really just grasping at straws. Who knows what creatures once lived, or the size of them? Who knows who’s visited here or evolved far past where we’re at now? What kind of science or technology they’ve had or what kind of manipulation of matter they were capable of. The fact that things they find seem to “get worse” over time tells you we’ve clearly been more advanced at times and have had to start over if you will. Imagine if Adam and Eve Story is real and this planet “resets” itself magnetically every 6000 plus years or so? Like I said we have no real clue and that’s why it’s all so fascinating!
One thing today’s humans don’t seem to get: people living during these times could become experts in their fields easier than we can. Typically, people learned a particular trade and only that trade. They were able to spend every waking minute devoted to improving their craft. They didn’t have to go to baseball practice or get home in time to watch their favorite shows. They didn’t have the amount of distractions we have, nor did they need to devote as much time to studying other subjects that had nothing to do with their craft.
People are like that today the big difference is that the craft didn’t change between generations.
@@rickybobby7276 I gotta disagree. Most of us have 2-3 jobs before landing on a career path and most of us embark on several careers. And all of us wound up doing some kind of extra curricular activity (sports usually) that distracts us from school and work. Back in the day, you started carpentry as a teenager and never looked back.
People today waste their time wondering about how Egyptians built stuff. Literally the most uninteresting and unproductive way to use your time
yeah no Nagging Wife to distract you!
@@AnthonyGargini All roads lead to Egypt
Actually actually amazing and awe inspiring. Thanks 🙏
Tutankhamun's meteoric iron dagger, also known as Tutankhamun's iron dagger and King Tut's dagger, is an iron-bladed dagger from the tomb of the ancient Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun
Yes, but that was meteoric. They had to find it. It was exceedingly rare. They didn't have iron tools or anything like that. They couldn't make iron themselves -- it's very difficult. We are talking about the Egyptians here, not the previous technological civilization.
@@Terra_Lopez That, and King Tut was from much later in Egyptian history than the purported date of the megalithic structures like the pyramids. The accepted dawn of the Iron Age from the previous Bronze Age was approximately 1,200 B.C.
Exactly
@@jefffinkbonner9551 Crazy people you are. They found IRON works in africa DATING 2400 BC.
@@kalestanforde they
Ive seeing some cuts of this podcast.. But Im gonna have to sit down and watch it completely ...
who gives a fuck if you sit down or stand up bro, you dont matter
I don't know what metal this guy was using but he's shown to split rock with a sledge and wedge/spike. Not that's its impossible but it's probable to do it by hands in my opinion.
It's the precision that makes people believe maybe they had more modern-style tools back then. Sure you could split a rock with a rock, but granite is another story.
You ain’t splitting granite block with precision. No one ever has proven it possible and then carve it perfectly without machines? Nah.
The harder the material is, the easier it is to split it precisely, and the larger your margin of error is because it takes longer to make a fatal error when your working with something very hard.
But wouldn’t explain how they moved 100,000 pound blocks 500 MILES from the Nile river to the location of the pyramids, and then CARRY those blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
Hopefully one day they can find the advanced tool buried or stored somewhere
The tools were taken back to where they came from. Additional pyramids and structures had to be made in other places around the world. Like with other building projects around the world, the builders took their tools with them when the job was finished…..and they went home….not knowing that thousands of years later others would take credit for their work.
I think some other race of people built my house, because I don’t see their hammers and tape measures laying around in my yard. They were so advanced that I didn’t find a single tool belt.
@Lauren Urban then they would have found them in masonry or tooling shops where these tools would have been made, repaired, etc. Or at least some documentation/pictographs showing these tools and how they were used. There's NOTHING.
There are other examples that this guy cites that give me pause. But this symmetrical monument example just tells me: he doesn't know how to draw, doesn't know how to measure, doesn't know how to sculpt, and can't imagine a day before distractions like television.
And hunter-gatherers knew, right?
@@claudestuder4199 Huter gatherers? WHAT? Why in the world do people think just because it was 5000+ years ago that these people were morons?
@@bradley3549 you can be as smart as you want, but without a society, how do you develope tools and craftsmanship to the level that the old dynastic Egyptians were at? There was obviously (to me) a successful society before the kemets.
@@bigtimber I don't think anybody is reasonably saying otherwise. Clearly there was a high level of sophistication. The idea that over 5,000 years ago people were cave men and then BOOM suddenly they built a giant pyramid out of nowhere is frankly as ridiculous as suggesting the pyramids were made by Aliens.
Uh shooting from the hip here, but if I was going to carve a stone face, I would first layout a grid, with a centerline. And then pull dimensions from the center to either side. So it would be symmetrical.
Easy to say after the fact and with all the available knowledge today
@@daebak7370 Comparative measurement and simple geometry is hardly an advanced concept for ANY civilization capable of building basic structures. It's not rocket science and can be done with nothing more advanced than a stick and a rock to mark it.
The established academics in all fields are not willing to open their minds.
When I heard his accent, I thought he'd be involved with the channel debunking these very ideas:
youtube.com/@SacredGeometryDecoded
I think the explanation is that these people were as clever as we are today (it was only a few 1000 years ago and we build skyscrapers, etc) so... they found a way. It was probably everything to them, like the builders of stonehenge ...there was nothing more important in their lives.
The Egyptians are protecting their ego's, hey look what we did back in the day!!
no way on earth do u achieve symmetry to this precision without high level technology.. mind blowing!
As an artist I feel justifiable in saying... People who aren't artist don't understand the true talent one or multiple can hold. I fully believe dozens of artists came together to create this great magnificence piece, it truly meant something to them, hence the perfection. Humans hold so many talents within them, tired of historians lacking belief in what we can do with what we are handed. I don't believe our idea of machines or "aliens" had any intervention. It's purely human God given talent.
Idc how much god given talent anyone has … no artist can even make a perfectly symmetrical circle in a piece of paper .. how in the hell would they chisel a rock into a perfectly symmetrical face that is the size of a vehicle
You could use depth micrometer from a centerline. Use one side to gauge the other.
Mmmm not God given, how about learnt and mastered over time by many generations.
i’m so sick of people talking like they have the answer but can’t prove shit. they don’t do anything and yet they gave the audacity to dismiss all the work these researchers do with one statement.
oh, it’s plan human God given talent.
were you there??????????
you were alive then?????????
you stood there watching as the pyramids were being constructed????????
how do you know?
you don’t, so don’t talk like you were there.
there are millions of people, if not billions, that wonder how many things were done so many years ago, but you talk like you have the answer with God’s given talent.
these people live their lives researching and traveling, studying, and they journal all their thoughts and discoveries.
people like you dismiss all that hard work.
they can stop searching now, they have you.
well, show us what you’ve done that’s so perfect since you’re an artist and have the skills.
gather another 99 artists and create an exact copy…..until then your words mean nothing.
“they, whoever they are”, they created a “perfect” that statue. “YOU SAY” it’s artists, sooooo show us.
don’t talk about it, don’t type d, stop speaking and typing AND, DO IT !
“SHOW US “YOUR” PERFECT STATUE”
now you have a very important job to do. this will put you in the history books for sure.
put your hands where your mouth is with your God given talent.
i want you to shut my mouth by creating your perfect statue that matches that one.
@@ginoasci who hurt you? Yikes dude. Go touch grass, seems like you could use it. ✌️❤️
I believe there's a bunch of history we don't know, whether aliens, or cyclical society... But THIS argument always makes me roll my eyes: "it's so perfect it couldn't have been done"... People back then were just as smart as we are now, and why do we always assume they only used chisels? Look at the work done in ancient Greece with rulers and compasses. It's amazing stuff.
Greek were using limestone and marble that are 3 on Mohs scale in Egypt lot of work was done with granite , granodiorite that are 7 on Mohs scale that is a complete world apart
Symmetry and precision are absolutely possible with hand tools
I don’t think you understand
@@beardown2489 why’s that?
Not to that extent. The egyptian statues are mathematically, robotical symmetrical. humans work differently, see michelangelo. but youdont want to see whats obvious, because you are an elitist snob.
Measuring for symmetry can easily be done with a center point various size logs and branches
There was an entire work class artisans. Want a modern equivalent look at Mount Rushmore. That was made by people hanging off the edge suspended by ropes. Go back to Roman times, they carved massive statues by hand. Why does the Egyptian statues have to made by advanced technology that was somehow lost? Why haven’t they been found? Yes technology is lost because of war and other factors but there is always some sort evidence left.
Carving rocks with the boys this Saturday babe.
They can make a template/ profile of one side of the face and just flip it over for the opposite side of the face. They could use multiple templates for the one face. Horizontal and vertical
I think they have no idea of template if they do they have dug evidence that they use it all they say is its carve by hands also this is the explanation of precision and accuracy about the vases and their argument of it cant be done by hands as the explained currently th-cam.com/video/WAyQQRNoQaE/w-d-xo.html
@@nedi6188 maybe make make a complete legible sentence?
@@AmericanInThePhillipines Sorry english is not my first language, I just dont know why you have to point it out in your comment.
@@nedi6188 forget that guy Michael Nowell, what you wrote was legible enough. Ironically he didn't even "make make" a legible sentence either lol
Even if that were true, how did they move these blocks, especially the ones made for the pyramid that are 100,000 pounds 500 miles from the Nile river to the location of the pyramids, and then move those said blocks up a MASSIVE slope.
how do you watch the full episode?
Great work! So happy Joe Rogan is helping to awaken humanity to our real ancient past.
Yup. He’s doing his best to spread conspiracy theories and misinformation.
@@AustinThinker79 says who?
@@BenHullCruise c'mon this guy said that the Egyptian used sound to lift the stones
Let’s see sound lift heavy stones then. Do it and put it on TH-cam so we can see how sound lifts a 10 ton slab of granite up in the air or moves it along the ground. This I’ve got to see. I’m willing to be open minded …..demonstrate the process.
They won’t ever demonstrate it, because they’re full of shit like every other pt Barnum type charlatan that came before them.
My theory I've held all my life, over 50 yrs, being fascinated by the pyramids, Sphinx, statues, 100% stone cities, on plateaus, sides of mountains..etc
Is we're looking at it backwards, we say "they were before us, so they weren't as capable, smart, technically advanced as we are today.""
But how come we can't come close to that perfection today?
Because they were more advanced than we are today, it's our future we're seeing remnants of from our past.
Think about our structures, tall buildings, houses made of manufactured concrete, wood, steel..etc nice designs, but fires, earthquakes, natural disasters destroy, level our towns & cities..
But what if in future we realized the safest most efficient way to live is build living, working spaces into what nature already provides?.
Blend with what's their already. These stone cities are still standing, fire, flood, hurricanes, tornados can't hardly damage them.
Earthquakes & massive ground movements would be most dangerous.
Maybe they had way better technologies, but lived more efficiently, and we have it all wrong.
Thousands of years before us doesn't mean less capable than us.
"You can't achieve that kind of symmetry by just eyeballing it"
Who the hell suggested they were eyeballing it.
There's a channel called Scientists Against Myths, where they work granite with copper. Worth checking out, as it shows that granite can be worked and it's not such a mystery.
That channel is for the uneducated that have no idea what they're looking at. They use C clamps on a bench to assist their cutting and guide their copper tool. We know what type of granite the egyptians carved, granite ranges in hardness by the type of granite. Egyptians used rose quartz and harder. "Scientists against myths use random slabs". Again watch their videos and really look at their experiments, none of them are honest but they do a good job of fooling uneducated viewers like yourself.
I don't understand why Joe gives airtime to these idiots.
"It should be pointed out that the precision of ancient Egyptian masonry is usually exaggerated. Most of it is quite rough, with the more precise parts limited to facings and stones meant to be visible. That said, where they did go in for fine stonework, it was done with simple tools and a lot of labor.
We’ve got pretty good if indirect knowledge of Egyptian masonry techniques: hammers, chisels, levers, copper drills, “saws” in the form of devices used to grind away at stone with abrasive sand, and wooden posts made to swell with water to rough out and split off blocks, then more of the same, with more grinding involved to more precisely shape them.
I’m aware that some modern people are incredulous that this is possible, but the evidence is there. These are exactly the same techniques used by masons from the Greeks and Romans through the Renaissance to shape the same range of stones with the same kinds of precision, and we know how they did it because they wrote more or less extensively about it. Indeed, later peoples did far more complex work with those techniques, like the absurdly complicated optical corrections in Greek and Roman temples, requiring both great precision and subtle curves rather than the straight lines and right angles of most Egyptian masonry. And while we don’t have direct textual evidence for these techniques from Egyptian sources, we do have indirect evidence in the form of unfinished stones in Egyptian quarries which display the kinds of conditions we’d expect from use of those techniques. It’s quite clear that it can be done by hand, but it requires significant skill and massive effort." Matt Rigsby, Boston U archaeologist
Ok if that's how they shaped them, how did they lift 70 ton stones onto a barge/raft, float it down a river then lift it off, and after all that they move them into place with out chipping them. That's what I want to know
I can see how craftsmanship would be lost on this guy
I am a stonemason and I hear you, but I also agree about the official history being unaccurate and that working on granit with copper and stones is complete nonsense.
However this guy does not understand what humans can achive with time and will. We are talking about generations of talented stonemasons, who perfected their techniques over a long peroid of time and imported knowledge from the Sumerian. This is where our decimal and sexagesimal systems are coming from.
oh the condescneding attitude on you little boi. he did recognize it when it comes to human craft like michelangelo, but not technical perfection.
Any information on the 360 Neters or "360 principles of divine creation " that the Shemsu Hor lived by. I know they believe us to have 365 senses instead of 5 but finding info on the 360 Neters is hard to come across.
Your not supposed to question the narratives on this....your supposed to go along with it and never question it.
People had already made their conclusions back then. They wrote it off as "God" doing his thing. Ever since then, people didn't analyze what was happening. Now all the sudden people are phasing out from the blur of belief and are intrigued by these sculptures and materials because they value evidence and proof.
Smart people already know there's only two ways the pyramids could have been built. Aliens did it or white people from the lost city of Atlantis taught them how to do it
@@zregory
I bet it was white people
Yea Ben you made it to JRE
Yeah, it was maddening to watch Schermer change the definition of Hunter Gatherer cultures just so he didn’t have to admit he was wrong.
Also, if archeology is so damn convinced that hunter gatherers made Gobekli Tepe, then they should talk to the Pigmy’s in the Congo, which are some of the few hunter gather cultures left on Earth, and ask if they could build it. Their answer, “uh… no, we don’t have the time or manpower”, will force archeology to admit they have no clue what they’re talking about
Shermer's a turd that floats. A contrarian b.s. artist....
Their answer would be WHY, should we build these things, not we dont have the time or manpower.
@@duaneelliott5194 also fair
Please put big fotos on screen !!!
There was actually a steel plate found within the core masonry of the Great pyramid and I believe today is lost somewhere in British museum
Show me.
@@wompbozer3939 There are photos of it if you search. Some believe it’s a piece of a shovel, but it was found deep in core masonry as the OP stated.
Sounds very dubious
@@wompbozer3939 Search “Giza pyramid iron plate” and check it out. Many others are skeptical as well but there you can read about it.
Archaeology is preventing humans from discovering our past glory.
I love how they keep avoiding the Aliens theory. . But to be honest to keep referring to ultrasound machines and a undiscovered technology is even more kooky then saying it was Aliens 🤣it’s obvious these advanced beings took their tools and Tech with them. The scary thing is if they were that advanced back then imagine what these Beings can do now. Just think they watch us and we can’t even detect they are in our presence. See Dark Skies
We are the aliens
Copper chisels were definitely the ONLY tool they had
Skill and determination.
Demonstrate it then. Go ahead, carve a piece of stone that's within those tolerances. It can be a tiny piece of stone, see how long it takes you.
Yarpin that is just as ignorant as people saying if there are no advanced tools left for us to see then they didn't have them back then.I see points to both sides though I mean nobody really knows shit maybe aliens seeded life on this planet and put the pyramids there to fuck with us lol probably not but who knows for sure.
You could be as determined as a horny dog on a pillow but it’s no happening
@Thebigbun Because it's impossible to demonstrate a negative. Learn some science, please.
@Thebigbun There's a difference between a piece of art and industrial grade precision.
Him, the other guy, and Graham Hancock are experts in “oh they don’t have machines, they can’t possibly make them back then”
You can use measuring tools in the carving process to make it symmetrical. Michelangelo didnt have symmetry because that wasn't the style or intent, but I'm certain he could have done it that way if he chose to. The tools needed though, in that time period, idk it's a conundrum.
There's a channel called World of Antiquity that pretty much debunked everything this guy is saying. If you listen carefully this guy makes so many assumptions it's laughable.
Well said chum
@@driti.s World of Antiquity is activist first and historian second, and is absolutely not trustworthy either. You kinda cant debunk what you see yourself.
@@michaelmyrvang9028 I've seen both sides and world of antiquity is spot on with everything. I mean they straight up lie about many things, like the whole world has a flood myth when it actually doesn't. Or they can't cut some with their tools when they could and many more straight up bull*hit. I've seen almost every video of graham hancock and after reading a bit on his claims I'm sorry but little to none stands. He even contradicts himself on many occasions.
@@driti.s any examples of his assumptions
Maaaan……..
Lex Friedman gain some pounds 😂😂
Could there have been an advanced civilization predating ancient Egyptian culture that are responsible for many of these anomalies?
Sure wish I could find the full video
Oh its a small upcoming podcast called the Joe Rogan Experience. Only about 14 million subscribers 😁
You indeed can achieve this level of symmetry by eyeballing and doing it by hand. These dudes use their own experience to judge what others can accomplish when in reality they are not skilled craftsman whatsoever.
how do you carve granite with bronze? show me
@@cromcccxvi3787 I don't know what they did but I am confident that it was not some sort of ancient high technology.
@@cromcccxvi3787 Granite powder and a lot of time. Maybe even weeks.
Thanks, guy on the internet commenting!
You solved that for me. Im sold. Thanks for your educated input.
These guys are wrong. And you, random guy on the internet commenting, are right. Cuz… you just are… huh… shmart guy… glad theres genius’s out there like you to correct educated people… 😂
Tell that to a stone mason lool
I don’t watch much TV, but I swear on everything I love I thought that was Chumlee until he spoke lmfaooo
Has anyone thought that maybe artificial intelligence is what made those statues symmetrical? Or maybe it was done by somebody who isn't an artist and they're using a tool to make it like that. I don't think any artist would make it like that.
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look at John Carroll, laughing at another possible opinion.
Vitruvian man
I definitely think so, but my mind is open.
@@CringeLord-dr8pe 'possible' in the same way that its possible they were designed by a sentient bowl of spaghetti lol
The guy has no idea how much these civilisations knew about mathematics, geometry and construction.
At first glance, thought that was Chumlee too....
This guy has an accent and therefore his words are truth lmao
Aussie
I can't believe Chumlee from Pawn Stars went to college and is now an Egyptologist
And got an Australian accent
I am 100% certain that these could not be carved by cavemen, but my problem is we have not found one high tech tool to validate any of this. If they were suddenly wiped out we should and would have found some of these high tech machines that they would have used.
You are correct on both, Egyptians were far from cavemen, and no machines have been found, that's why archeologist dismiss the claims, when they have proof they admit it, just look at gobekli tepe, these guys get mad at being dismissed and not one of them has solid proof, I suggest watching scientis against myth, they do a ton of experiments, and have a full analysis on core number 7 not being a spiral...
or aliens take back the tools when they leave earth
After watching alot of these people , I wonder if the technology is underneath the ocean and in the core gone so we can't find it and it's always a open thought . It's 2023 and I think it's just not gonna be easy to find if we haven't already found a trace
The question should be “why were they tampered with”
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What I want to know is if aliens came down here and built things why didn’t they make any metal buildings? It’s always masonry.
He didn't say it was aliens lol
@@emartinezr I’m not saying he did but it’s been speculated before.
I never knew chum lee was an expert in ancient Egyptians.
There's an iron mine right next to one of the pyramids. And we know they worked meteoric iron.
I think they had iron tools which would explain how they did it. Like they could have just used iron for the tips of chisels and such.
I don’t see why more people don’t consider this as the best explanation. It’s not really earth shattering, and doesn’t really mean that iron was available for everyone.
The iron would literally dig into whatever material was softer, the copper or bronze, you would get nowhere with this method
@@ShlomoWeasenthal What are you talking about?
@@wompbozer3939 if you beat a iron tipped copper chisel on granite, the iron would cut backwards into the copper, it would ruin the copper tool
@@ShlomoWeasenthal Like the way that a diamond tipped tool turns itself in reverse and destroys itself? Or is it more like the granules on a piece of sandpaper turning themselves around to destroy the sandpaper?
Wait no, it must be like when you put a hard clearcoat overtop of your fingernail polish, and then it turns around and destroys your fingers.
The thing about Stone Masons today aren’t working/thinking in construction that takes generations. I’d just think that would play a massive role in the conversation.
( repairing something centuries old, using old techniques but trying to finish in your life time, or in months/years. Is going to be so much different than working on something that you know won’t be finished in your life time, that your great grandfather, grand father, father then you, your son, your grandson, your great grand son and so on are going to be working on)
Even grand buildings in the EU took multiple centuries.
With arts and skills, it only improves over time especially when those things are passed down from father to son. This also increases the dedication/effort, patience and care.
Another thing, is even look at monuments of the current era. The Washington Monument wasn’t finished for an extremely long time. It was actually the shameful stub of the USA for a long time.
It would only make sense, that they would gotten A LOT of practice, and training prior to working on it.
There’s a famous story of a pope looking for great artwork, a famous artist was asked to create something, he drew a perfect circle, offering it to the messenger. The messenger was concerned, “a circle?! How can I give this to the pope?!” The artist told him, tell the pope how I did it.
The pope was amazed beyond belief.
The accuracy of free hand circles is insane. Honestly, humans while being faulty can also be extremely impressive.
Acting as if they couldn’t plan, that workers wouldn’t have put an ungodly amount of effort in, especially when building something for their god king.
Look at what humans dedicate to gods they can’t see/prove or just have visions of.
So just imagine, the dedication of one that you could actually potentially see.
Every time I watch someone doing something I can't do, I scream that it's impossible to do it and that aliens are involved
He's not implying that, he's more saying there's a lost civilisation with amazing capabilities that we don't know about
@@jamesjameson4566 Yeah he's a kook
This is the smartest Chumlee has ever sounded
The mainstream explanation (fringe science actually) from egyptologists and historians is the straight definition of "incompetency".
Like literally, you have one job and you miserably fail at it for whatever reason.
And this is the same for Wikipedia which is now the exact opposite of what it was supposed to be.
We should never forget who those "mainstream guys" are and what they are doing as a great example of how to prevent human civilization to learn more about its past and learn new technologies.
Can Joe get a dedicated historian of ancient Kemet come on the show
They didn't carve them. Someone else did.
Yes someone else did, with earlier tech that no one knows about because there is no evidence of the lost civilization or their tech other than some simple minded theories of "well the Egyptians could not do it so someone BEFORE them had to, with more advanced technology than the people that came after them, leaving no trace of themselves or their tech, placing these monoliths in a way that a future could claim them as their own, hell the Egyptians could even read and replicate the ancient language that was carved into the Granite Steles that they could have not carved themselves, and make it their own language.
@@coreylee9342 We ourselves will leave no trace either, aside from perhaps Mount Rushmore, or the Hoover dam for a few centuries, before it fails without maintenance and management. The Empire State Building won't last a century or two without us. None our skyscrapers will.
What is more logical? The prevailing theory that despite going from horses to the moon in 200 years, we ran about the earth as nothing more than bald chimps for 200,000 years, just as smart was we are today, with the exact same DNA? Or maybe the alternate theory that known global calamities, with geological records of their occurrence, repeatedly started mankind over, when cities and civilizations were destroyed by weather events?
They showed you can cut through granite with copper saws w/o a blade using sand
Did they cut and carve a whole 10ton granite block with it? I'd like to see that.
I'd REALLY like to see how they carved out the floor and polished for a perfectly dimensioned single-piece box...
I don't think hunter gathers had time to build structure's of this magnitude. If you look at tribes that still live like this their life consists of waking up go hunting come home eat celebrate go to bed wake up do it again. Where is the time for building.
Thats your problem, you don't think.
They sing they dance they make elaborate costumes, paint there body's and cave walls make jewelry,do drugs.
Lots of things that aren't essential for existence.
Shapes geometric shapes you don’t carve a face you carve bruh this is .. hold my beer
Egyptian's didn't build the Pyramids.🤷🤔
Of course they did🙄, they had concepts beyond Western comprehension. Understanding energy and vibrations. They used spiritual science.
@@lf1496 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@johncarroll772 No, seriously. Mysticism and Esoteric disciplines are the foundation for the science that we use today. As well as religion and psychology.
Cosmic laws are under no obligation to make sense to you...
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
Sound familiar? It's as if science is just now proving its predecessors. Full circle.
The land was called Khemit before the Egyptians arrived. The oral traditions of the Egyptians say that the pyramids were already there when they came to the land. It was only after Western scholars arrived that we were given the history narrative that we still have today
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Whatever caused the ice to melt almost instantly during the younger dryas, had to have had an effect on all stones worldwide. Wouldn't this have made stones much softer and easy to shape?
nah
Weed thought #1027
Ok thx certified scholars
@@mini_mozzer your reply is based on what? Thought so
@@BlGGESTBROTHER ignorant thought #0001
So cool to get RVD and Chumlee's son on the show.
They had nothing better to do back then so I’m sure people were super good at what they do
Dam good to know that Chumlee has taken a turn for the better. Sounds so smart and sophisticated. 🤗
Nice
I am one of those proponents of the view that the megalithic structures were constructed during the Neolithic times by a technologically advanced civilization which was wiped out by catastrophic events.
7:40 LoL 🤣😂😆
Damn Chum Lee now knows his shit
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Thanks chumlee
The Egyptian as well as other civilizations had access to some form of ancient technology and higher forms of wisdom and knowledge that have been lost to time. Where they got all that from is beyond me
The picture of the Ramses statue is visible imprecise. Look it up. The ears are off but miles. It’s laughable to call them perfect.