AE86 Vintage Build. FCR Flat-Slide Carb's. it sounds insane now.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2023
- We do the coolest upgrade yet to the AE86 build and setup some Keihan FCR Flat slide carbs which sound absolutely wild. This thing rips now!
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Last time I was this early, Taylor still worked for BC.
Bc?
@@Justin-oe9fs yeah Taylor used to work at BC Racing
@@KyNb2 oh shit i didn't know that
completely forgot about that, i remember adam lz going to bc because of taylor though.
@Nick Herbin so why did they both quit? I'm guessing because of yt?
Hey Taylor,
There are two varieties of FCR; side draught and angled, looks like you’ve got the side draught ones which means they need to be mounted with the body vertical as opposed to on an angle like your CVs were meant to be, basically you’ll just need to look at the angle of the float bowl and see if that’s parallel to the ground when they’re mounted
Additionally they definitely need to be balanced, you can hear them running unevenly, will make a big difference! I found a cheap and handy little airflow meter made for beetle carbs, you just put the snout of it up to the velocity stack and it’ll read out how much vacuum it’s pulling, then you just ensure they’re all pulling the same at idle
Also it’s “Kay-Hin” hehe
These look like the angled ones, look at 23:33 and you can see the slanted carbs.
You can see actually that the angle of the line of the top of the float bowl is parallel to that of the carb body as well as the actual Venturi so im quite confident they’re side drafts
Slant body and Fcr MX. Came because im rebuilding mine
If it's not a vacuum leak, you might have built a whistle with your off set intake runners 😂
Taylor, also - I don't know if anyone has said this - you may need to balance those carbs. There are plenty of cheap tools for this, and you basically measure the airflow at each carb and adjust individually. When I had a built 1.6 in my Miata with Toyota ITBs this was key to getting it running really well.
Fcrs can’t be balanced my dude, they are a set hight on the slides
@@mk1productions88 Nice, Didn't know that. I assumed the were similar to conventional butterfly'd bodies. Not balancing could have been the issue with his previous sets though. It was a 100% improvement when I set up my ITBs.
@@mk1productions88 There should still be individual idle screws between carbs to do a proper sync. Not saying its the case but I've not run across a carb bank set that wasn't able to sync to each other
@@mk1productions88 they can definitely be balanced, otherwise they wouldn’t be properly tunable, they’re balanced where the slide attaches to the throttle shaft
@@BADDTIMES huh, I’ll have to have a look my dude… learning every day… even if I’ve been running them wrong for 6 years haha!
I know this comment may go unnoticed but that wielding table paid for itself I’m not even gonna cap
Proud of Josue for learning something new
with the programable ign box you can switch to a crank trigger set up and just get rid of the distributor. and use a wasted spark set up from a ford ou Peugeot like i did :)
There is also a vw coil pack that is good for paired firing
I’m 50 and have been cocking about with cars and bikes my whole life. Kehin FCRs are the best carbs I’ve ever used, power and economy - I have a pair on my old Ducati 900SL - you can hear them on my channel. Keep up the good work👍
That first start-up with the clicks, chirps and putt putts at idol reminded me of when they 1st got Chitty Chitty Bang Bang running. Once it got some RPM's in it, it sounded killer! Get that tip in tuned in right and it'll be rocking...
Use candle wax on the grinding burr and it will help in preventing the flutes from gumming up with aluminum.
Cheap bar soap works also and easier to find
I had some Johnson paste wax for that but I tossed it recently since it was getting gross. Lol
gulf wax
@@Taylordrifts you can use WD-40 to keep from getting the bits and wheels clogged up. Also check out the sand belt cleaner from Harbor Freight.
The swap from a cv carb to a pumper/flat slide carb is HUGE. Instant changes, instant throttle response and better torque
Now im invested in what that super annoying chirping noise is 😂 guessing its a small intake leak somewhere
My vote is going to the intake runners.
I’m guessing a small nick in one of the intake boots that he got while trying to get the new carbs to fit
34:45 It's placement of the carbs to the intake very familiar with this sound. Had this on my vertical dual carb set up on my VW engine, dual 40mm Dellortos. Carb to intake was paper, then switched to rubber mount and fixed the vacuum problem. Definitely a vacuum issue from carbs to intake.
The tip in hesitation is the accelerator pump timing being too early. It's a struggle with FCRs. I've been racing on these things for 25 years! The off throttle bog usually isnt a problem, until it is, on a jump face in my case 😳
I think I got rid of my bog by changing the accel spring to a different year that was apparently better. Also I got one of those fancy bowls with the externally adjustable accel pump, I think that helped for sure but wasn't totally necessary
@@motoweenies4431 Yeah the Boysen bowl is a must have on older FCR bikes for sure.
@@bennyb.1742 Just a smaller leak down jet and a zip tie holding the accelerator pump linkage gets you the same shot as a Boysen, at least on FCR39s in my experience. The big thing is getting the pump timing perfect on the bench before it goes back in the bike/quad/vehicle.
feel you on the bike bro, i finally just built my dream bike and couldn’t be happier and glad to see another person getting back into bmx
Never gets old! Been riding off and on since '83! So cool to see his bike set up and old park clips!
The BMX to car progression is real.
“It’s just cool and I wanna do it” it’s so nice when people admit this first but, we all know that’s who you are
I saw this review channel for things that must not be named. And he had a term “first cool and second cool” first cool was just. It gets you off. You like it. So many people try to justify things being logical instead of admitting they just think it’s cool.
I havent had much time to watch lately, but brother i have to say i am proud of you. I dont know you at all outside of watching your channel, but what an inspiration. I started watching when you had the first gen dodge and that tiny little garage to work out of. You've got a gnarly little collection of awesome cars here. Keep doing whatever youre doing 🤝🏽
Who wants to see Taylor at LZ fest?
FCRs are super cool. Can't wait to see everything all cleaned up
Those sounds amazing, It's the right sound for this beast that is all about the feels than the function
Love your taking the ol'skool approach. That thing sounds sick as hell ! so nostalgic, dude 👍👍👏👏
Wow! Sounds so cool! Looking forward to the header build. 😎👍🛠
What a sound, and the clack man! Love it, best setup you could have on an 86. FCR Carbs for the win! They add so much presence to the engine bay too. Would love a set of these on my old VW Polo, was running on CBR600 carbs before it went back to sensible daily mode lol.
Twin FCR’s on a 660 thumper. Anything Yamaha screams through the sides. GPZ 750 turbo carbs were it back then. That mechanical note hits different than ITB’s.
I have a diesel jetta and now Taylor’s clacky girl sounds like it 💀💀
Love this, ae86+fcr+header builds+BMX all my favourite things 😬
thanks to you and a few other tubers im finally getting back into tinkering with my eg hatch, all the little things i ignored 7 years ago im finally addressing and its like a whole new car. First set of new coils from BC racing, ditched the dizzy for Coil on plug, redid the fuel rail and lines to AN and regulator by deatch and found i had been running lean the whole time and eatting away my pistons. you can see the piston to wall clearance is bad lol. bought a lil harbor frieght welder to fix lil holes and rattles in the exhaust and just tacked painting it and with rattle cans( trust me it looks sweet) next im looking into doing my own interior work to give it a more premium look and feel like a bmw or something rather than a plastic rattle trap. Ima have to sent you a couple photos of it. i just wish i had it in me to record the progress and just show ppl but i hate being on camera lol
Next episode “I bought a lathe” Taylor always making moves 👌🏻
Good to seeing you plug your merch more lately!
Nice work on the bike mate. I rode skateparks in the early 80s. Still have my bikes. Still roll around at 57 years old. Lovin the Toyota build too.
I'm almost 46 and I would love to get another BMX (haven't had one in 30 years) but I'm not sure I trust myself to not do some stupid things and wreck my body.
Absolutely love the fcrs! I'd put a smaller leak down jet in the accelerater pump circuit after balancing them out that will help massively with the hesitation then fine tune the timing on the accelerater pump from there if your happy with the afr
LUV those flat side carbs, good job making them work!!
So pumped for this nostalgia build!
Love from Italy Taylor !❤
THIS IS THE CONTENT WE NEED
The clack of the FCR carbs always make sme think about the dlack that old Ducatis have fron their desmo valves...something about them is just so satisfying
Dude so hype u back on the bike🎉🎉🎉
Got an FCR carb on my DRZ400 bike. The most complicated carb I've ever messed with, glad I only have one. Good luck Taylor.
Heck yeah man stoked on the way the bmx turned out. I learned tailwhips again after a long break from the bike due to illness. Riding again is the best!
Taylor,
The fcr carbs have a vacuum plate on the front of the slide on each carb that closes when they're off throttle. Thats likely the whistle you're hearing when you blip the throttle. It's normal for every fcr I've ever had.
As for the bog when you rap the throttle you can try bumping up a jet size, it usually helped mine but makes them a little harder staring when they're hot.
Love the fcr 41’s have a set on my 92 air cooled gsxr 750 swapped bandit. Hauls ass for old tech and the idle sound is just awesome
Bike build is cool, I had a chrome 1984 predator when i was younger, and raced bmx bikes. Cool build
It’s awesome to see some of your old BMX clips!
Dude, I miss my BMX days. I had a pretty baller Haro frame with everything else custom back in the day, couldn't recall the parts now, this was 25 years ago.
this car is incredible
This build is so dang cool. Hell yeah!
Glad you went with FCR for the win 🏆
To keep your burr tool from clogging up use cutting wax. It also helps drill bits and saw blades cut into aluminum.
I got the craving to ride again a couple years ago.. After a month of hitting a little kicker at home and practicing half cabs i went to the skate park for a go. 2nd time at the park was the last and spent half a year off work recovering a broken ankle...so much for trying to stay fit aye haha
it's gonna start!
The header model was sick! Love true tool you used to mock it up. Looks awesome so far!
Sounds so good!! I want to do this on a suzuki swift gti. You have shown me the way mate
The nostalgia hit with the bmx content. Love it
My favorite build!!
Sick bike
I feel that love for BMX, i still have my 05 Haro Backtrail X3 i ordered new.
gotta love that fcr chirp!!
Love your channel been watching since you had the old shop religiously watch every episode keep on keeping on brother 👍 much love from Texas
Ordered my coozie from this episode. Arrived today totally stoked to have it. Great product. Dr.pepper will never not be in 1 😂
I always wanted a Hutch frame with the Quadangle forks, that was my 90's dream bike.
Taylor on a BMX just like the first time I saw him on Adam's channel. Takes me back!
The bmx clips tho that's nostalgia in itself dude yes!!! I love it!!
So rad!
coolest car
first, those carbs are sick. second, hyped you built a new bike! that 3 over the rail was a banger
Bmx is good for the soul and a great way to stay in shape
That little whistle sounds funny lol
Gonna start first try
Isopropyl also helps a lot putting grips on ☺️ sick build as always!!
They went right on with air. Lol
@@Taylordrifts People would get a funny look on their faces the first time they saw someone use the air hose on grips. Working smart.
Come drift with us at Apple valley Speedway! For 8/6 Day
dem things go WOO WOOOOO
Great content thanks for sharing
This has me trying to figure out a way to put bike carbs on my 22r. Should make for a reliable set up and more power if I keep it simple. Sounds amazing on this.
I'm soo existed for the header build! Also love the baby bird carbs
hey dude, you can adjust that area of fuelling with either the position of the accelerator pump arm (on the throttle lever near where the cable goes) or but changing the needle position. but if you change your needles it will effect afrs at cruise also. So sick to see you on the flat slides man!
We all did something growing up.. keep a board in my trunk at all times 🤙🏻
Dope as always 👌
Man those carbs look and sound GREAT! I do hope however that you revisit that intake manifold in the near future and build a properly spaced one, I understand hacking the one you had together just to get it working but if you're gonna go through all the trouble of building a new header for mostly aesthetic reasons there's really no excuse for leaving it that way long term.
Always noticed your bike in the background and wondered lol, stoked to see ya building up a new one, especially with shadow and subrosa parts!!
You're little squirrel is chirping on the round wheel running😂
I agree with the two guys who mentioned balancing/synch-ing the carbs. I'd be shocked if they weren't wildly different. You can buy a fancy big dollar tool. Or you can make a DIY synch with plastic tube, 2 stoke oil and yard sticks.
Super cool build!
I hope your going to make a nice version of the intake now you know it works well.
Probably worth doing first, if your going to go to the trouble tuning and balancing the carbs. Really make the engine Sing!!!😃
And sort out that ticking sound!
Hey Taylor , on your carbide bits for aluminum try using a bar of soap or a toilet donut seal thing. Just stick the bit in it and give we a rip and the bit won’t get nearly as clogged. I use the toilet seal on my bandsaw blade also when cutting a lot of aluminum to prevent it from clogging up as well
40 year old here. Remember BMX is a young man’s game, you’re gonna be more sore, more tired and generally it’s gonna be much harder than when you’re younger. But having said that, it’s awesome to do and try as you get older.
You got a balance those carbs homie! You will be surprised how much better that thing idles when you get equal vacuum being pulled on all 4 carbs.
I think that rattle is from the slides them selves they may need to be snugged up via cable tension or air screw if applicable excellent job love it
You should make garage build co aprons with bolt pockets on the chest
Damn 600k subs Taylor the MAN!
The chirp is a vacuum leak. I'd guess boots first, but maybe a weld?
Edit: spray some carb cleaner/starting fluid/brakekleen, and listen for it to idle up
This video was all over the place in the best way possible. It's fun to go back to BMX. The intake noise is weird. It sounds like those horrible bird whistles with the water in them. It may be the cheap plastic air venturis making the noise. Once balance tune them, the carbs will sing.
The bike build is sick. Makes me want to build a new bike. Would love to see some bmx stuff on the channel as you get back into it! Rad video as always 🤙🏻
Reminds me of being a kid getting Dan’sComp catalogs and picking out parts for my dream bike
Quad SU carbs would go really well and sound sick. Period correct too
Awesome video as always! Def my fav TH-cam builder. Always showing us the details. Would have been cool to see you at the LZ tour and Ebisu with the boys.
Not sure if anybody has brought it up yet but FCR carbs are notorious for a slight hesitation on tip in. The cheap but reliable way to help that hesitation is called the zip tie mod basically it stops the accelerator pump from being progressive and makes it a one-to-one ratio I won't get into the specifics of how to do it easier just to Google FCR carb zip tie mod
Spray your carbide burr and piece with a little WD-40 to keep your carbide from clogging up with aluminum!!
Try dipping the bits in to ATF, this helps with the aluminum sticking to the bit.
Pro tip for grinding carbide, spray some lube on it before you start jam tha alu, it wont get clogged and it cuts alot faster
I was so hyped up to see you build up a new bike! I might not have a cool race car but I’ve got an awesome bike so I can relate to that 😂😂
Hell yes fcr!
Nice carbs. I got a set of older ones on my 83 cb750.
The carbs made my day
86 content ftw🎉
Great video.
I wish i never stopped riding bmx.