Man, it good to see you guys again. It's always good to watch you're guys content from time to time. It always brings the biggest smile on my face, when you two complain about nonsense for an unspecific amount of time. I mean, I don't really care how long it might be; it's still gonna be a good video none-the-less. But anyway, I hope you guys will be alright during these troubled times. And I cannot wait for the next video.
Really appreciate it, mate. Still slightly baffling that people enjoy listening to us yell at each other for an extended period of time, but it's always nice to hear as well.
The ending is also super poinient, to the point that its on your nose that they play the Opening theme, that directly contrasts the situation that Al is feeling at that moment. Its to say "hey war is over, BUT ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE FUCKING DEAD!"
Your reviews are getting better, guys. Keep it up. But to tell you the truth, 0080 is not the first Gundam anime that makes you think about collateral civilian victims. In the very first episode of original MSG, they showed you a pile of civilian bodies who got killed by a stray Zaku shot. Fraw Bow's parents are among them.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots Honestly, even just a Zeta Gundam review would be BADASS... Or a review of OBSOLETE. I've been enjoying your reviews IMMENSELY and have been binging them for the last 2 days! Keep up the great work! :-)
It really shows how far you guys have come since 2 years ago. I like how you incorporate your icons with the usage of text and movement whenever you're talking, as well as the VHS film distortion and play screens as transitions. It was worth the 2 month wait while it's been happening. Now all you need is MS Igloo, and you'll have completed all the One Year War spin-offs while still not having gotten to 0079.
I'm really pleased with how the floating text turned out in this, glad it worked for you as well. And yeah, we probably ought to get round to doing the original some time. :T
0080 just mean this story happen in the Universal Centry year 0080, almost the end of the one year war. The first gundam series happen in year 0079 at the beginning on the One Year War. And with no surprise Gundam 0083:Star dust memories(AKA: Gundam: The empire strike back) take place during UC 0083. p.s. Little know fact, the Gundam series with a "8", 0080, 0083, 08th MS team, feature no New Type (AKA: Gundam Jedi) at all, only grunt doing grunt thing.
Been watching all Gundam UC series that interest me and come straight to your videos after I finish one. Absolutely love your stuff, please keep it going!!!
Finally got around to watching this one - best Gundamn romance subplot so far. I enjoyed this quite a bit even if it is lite on the action, they make it count. Thanks for the reccomendation! Also - you're almost 2k subscribers, hope you've got that serial experiments Lain vid lined up
Then there’s the type of Gundam character who knows about everything going on behind the scenes and is tanking advantage of the suffering for their own selfish reasons and in doing what he thinks is best and acting cocky, they inadvertently kill themselves and their faction (AHEM, MC. QUVE, KCILIA AND NEO HITLER)
I loved 0080 but will never watch it again, not all the way through. I can't manage it, even with the heroes getting happy new lives in Gundam Valhalla (Aka Build Fighters)
I've been a fan of gundam for like 15 years and the way I explaine it is that a show or franchise created with the sole purpose to sell toys and model kits has no right to be as good as it is. Also, did you know Tomino created the new type concept as a way to explain Amuros piloting skills cause the sponsors insisted that the protagonist has to be a teenager. But I guess tomino fell in love with the idea after that I guess.
I find the whole newtype thing quite a dangerous idea. As a german it reminds me of all the master race bullshit a certain morron with a mustage pulled. But on the other hand no one is getting purged for not beeing a new type and them beeing all about understanding and peace seems fine. but yea not my favourite aspect of Gundam.
The thing I love about newtype is just what you said, in Zeon Deikum's original idea, was only the next step, something that would happen gradually, then Adolf Zabi family turns it into race bullshit, when none of then even got close to being a newtype, is a concept and story that I personally love, and the fact that they are essentially emotional Jedis is just the cherry on top of it all
31:52 Not necessarily pointless. If Amuro had the Alex he may have killed Char outright, possibly leading to Jamitov or Axis Zeon ruling the earth sphere as tyrants.
Do it again Bomber Harris! Send the firestorm LeMay! (Dresden was a major rail network and was absolutely a military target) also what the hell TH-cam why no notification for 3 months
@@WeHeartGiantRobots Hey are you guys gonna ever review Origin? It's really what got me back into gundam and rewatch the whole UC timeline. Yall should do ZZ as well🤣🤣🤣
i love your video keep it up guys and yeah i idk why 1000 idiots like me suscribe to this channel but i am happy. now i am going to say a universal truth. the best gundam is ................. MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM THE ORIGIN, atleast the ovas .
35:24 Was that a Serial Experiemnts Lain reference? Doesn't matter actually, please have Robert summarize Lain in the future, I'm dying to hear how the fuck he intends to summarize that one
Also why in the hell do British people call a stick of butter a knob of butter
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Why do I feel like Avatar ripped off cowboy bebop’s art style and inserted it into a alien environment so that nobody could tell that it was actually Cowboy bebop art style?
ZZ actually have a very good second half. Though i believe if you read Belthorchika Children and High-Streamer of CCA it's much better than the movie as it was how Tomino intended CCA to be. But I guess because of some pushing around things got mixed due to Sunrise but generally Tomino Gundam works in manga and novels are pretty much brilliant writing.
I've never been keen on the "stick with it and it gets better" argument, cos a show really should grab you from the get-go. That being said I ain't seen ZZ myself yet, so I have no dog in this fight. Rob says he'll fight you, tho.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots The half way point of ZZ gets really dark with many characters dying left and right approaching Zeta levels. The earlier parts is just goofy stuff that may or may not be anyone's liking but it went into that direction due to Zeta being depressing during the final moment. Plus some stuff in ZZ changes half way in the show due to Sunrise randomly green lit the CCA movie. The same thing happened to F91. Guess the reason why Tomino went and tried to kill the franchise. At least from that outcome we gained Crossbone, F91 manga and Belthorchika Children.
It does not have a good second half. That is the biggest lie in this community, y'all tricked me into watching 50 episodes of filler garbage. They are still doing the same zaney crap with 10 episodes to go, as they were doing in the very first episode. Judau and Co sneak into the weird Chinese Palace place by cross dressing while we're in the final part of the series.
Hey Dave, considering you like Doomer material and you guys were talking about WW2, try reading Götterdämmerung 1945, Germany's Last Stand in the East. Soviets against Nazis, with despair on both sides and fun for nobody
really like these videos but one thing that holds them back is the glitchyness of the videos in the background. i understand its part of the style but it makes the B roll unwatchable.
Yeah, it's definitely partly a means of evading a lot of automatic copyright detection stuff that TH-cam throws about these days (and it's also grounds to defend ourselves in the event of a manual claim: no-one can make the argument that we're trying to create a stand-in for the original material when we're messing with the footage so hard). That being said, the background video used here is mostly cos Rob and I are big Max Headroom nerds: we could look into finding an alternative that might not be so distracting in the future. Appreciate the feedback though, chief.
Dresden WAS a military target. Specifically it was a major transport hub, refit and muster point for the Eastern Front. Get better sources, little guy.
If you're struggling with the newtype stuff, you're kinda missing the point of Gundam and just going "wow, cool robot". Look at the politics of contolism and take the newtype stuff seriously instead of balking and you're going to get one hell of a lot more out of Gundam. That said, it does require some understanding of politics, of psychology and Japanese cultural contexts to "get", otherwise it just comes off as confusing.
Honestly, the newtype shenanigans has actually grown on me over the years. It was a bit jarring in 0079 (probably cos they had to rush it into the plot), but it gets fleshed out as the series goes on.
0080 is among the Christmas Classics like Die Hard.
I had genuinely never considered that but you are 100% onto something there, sir.
A PILE OF BERNIE BURGERS!!
dammit you already made that joke in the opening few minutes!!
You know we had to do it to 'em.
Wouldn't have to worry about people coughing on me if I was hermetically sealed in my own giant robot....
Brother, that would be the dream. Riding out the pandemic by riding about in a giant robot.
Man, it good to see you guys again. It's always good to watch you're guys content from time to time. It always brings the biggest smile on my face, when you two complain about nonsense for an unspecific amount of time. I mean, I don't really care how long it might be; it's still gonna be a good video none-the-less.
But anyway, I hope you guys will be alright during these troubled times. And I cannot wait for the next video.
Really appreciate it, mate. Still slightly baffling that people enjoy listening to us yell at each other for an extended period of time, but it's always nice to hear as well.
The ending is also super poinient, to the point that its on your nose that they play the Opening theme, that directly contrasts the situation that Al is feeling at that moment.
Its to say "hey war is over, BUT ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE FUCKING DEAD!"
One of the most effective knife-twists in anime, hands down.
I've been calling it "come and see with Giant Robots" for years.
GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots Im just glad somebody else sees it.
@@darthrex354 Now that I have seen both...I cannot unsee it.
Your reviews are getting better, guys. Keep it up. But to tell you the truth, 0080 is not the first Gundam anime that makes you think about collateral civilian victims. In the very first episode of original MSG, they showed you a pile of civilian bodies who got killed by a stray Zaku shot. Fraw Bow's parents are among them.
Yeah, you gotta give the original props: Tomino and co laid the groundwork for a lot of what WITP and future series have done.
This is still the best of all Gundam
Out of morbid curiosity I am Interested to see you review double Zeta Gundam.
Oh I am 100% gonna force Rob to do that at some point.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots Honestly, even just a Zeta Gundam review would be BADASS... Or a review of OBSOLETE. I've been enjoying your reviews IMMENSELY and have been binging them for the last 2 days! Keep up the great work! :-)
It really shows how far you guys have come since 2 years ago. I like how you incorporate your icons with the usage of text and movement whenever you're talking, as well as the VHS film distortion and play screens as transitions. It was worth the 2 month wait while it's been happening.
Now all you need is MS Igloo, and you'll have completed all the One Year War spin-offs while still not having gotten to 0079.
I'm really pleased with how the floating text turned out in this, glad it worked for you as well.
And yeah, we probably ought to get round to doing the original some time. :T
Love that I never got this in my sub box but instead youtube decides to throw it in my recommendations months later
Click the bell icon, fam
They don't even tell us when we get comments anymore, most of the time. 10/10 platform.
@@Inari_the_Fox I always have it on for creators I like and it still didnt show up :(
Damn, the amount of time to edit this must've been insane! This video is SO damn good.
Thanks to certain recent events, we had plenty of time to sink into this one. Glad you enjoyed, my dude.
0080 just mean this story happen in the Universal Centry year 0080, almost the end of the one year war.
The first gundam series happen in year 0079 at the beginning on the One Year War.
And with no surprise Gundam 0083:Star dust memories(AKA: Gundam: The empire strike back) take place during UC 0083.
p.s. Little know fact, the Gundam series with a "8", 0080, 0083, 08th MS team, feature no New Type (AKA: Gundam Jedi) at all, only grunt doing grunt thing.
...truly, 8 is the greatest number.
Been watching all Gundam UC series that interest me and come straight to your videos after I finish one. Absolutely love your stuff, please keep it going!!!
Glad you're enjoying mate, hopefully we can get some more Gundam UC stuff out soon.
My favourite series by far :)
Edit: congrats on 1k!
Much appreciated, my dude.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots he came here to laugh at you
I have never been able to get over Bernie’s death and how he died for nothing in the end 🥺
He actually didn't, he destroyed Alex, saving the colony by doing do
Finally got around to watching this one - best Gundamn romance subplot so far. I enjoyed this quite a bit even if it is lite on the action, they make it count. Thanks for the reccomendation! Also - you're almost 2k subscribers, hope you've got that serial experiments Lain vid lined up
Do the funny for the G Gundam, you know you're gonna do it sooner or later!
I want hamburgers all of a sudden
I can put up with bullshit, and themes for an hour, just sayin'
Bubblegum Crisis
Tank Police
Patlabor
Blue Gender
Macross Plus...
When?
Fun Fact: Patlabor was supposed to be the second/third video we were gonna do for the channel.
That turned out great, as you can tell.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots Ah, well no time like the present for long diatribes and giant revolvers.
ITS HAPPENING!
REMAIN INDOORS.
Then there’s the type of Gundam character who knows about everything going on behind the scenes and is tanking advantage of the suffering for their own selfish reasons and in doing what he thinks is best and acting cocky, they inadvertently kill themselves and their faction (AHEM, MC. QUVE, KCILIA AND NEO HITLER)
For generally being about the complexity of war, Gundam has an alarming amount of child soldiers. I worry about the writers.
Hey now, Tomino seems perfectly together mentally. Pay no attention to all the dead teenage characters.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots if it only was teenagers...... Human bombs man
Fun fact: By the time the next war in the UC Gundamverse starts, those kids would be old enough to be drafted to fight in it.
I loved 0080 but will never watch it again, not all the way through. I can't manage it, even with the heroes getting happy new lives in Gundam Valhalla (Aka Build Fighters)
You guys have videos are amazing you talk about random crap all the time I just wish you guys would upload more as a big mecha fan I'd really enjoy it
I've been a fan of gundam for like 15 years and the way I explaine it is that a show or franchise created with the sole purpose to sell toys and model kits has no right to be as good as it is.
Also, did you know Tomino created the new type concept as a way to explain Amuros piloting skills cause the sponsors insisted that the protagonist has to be a teenager. But I guess tomino fell in love with the idea after that I guess.
This only adds to my abiding thought that marketing people should never be allowed to decide anything ever.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots facts
I say this as a man who has recently spent far too much money importing Gunpla kits.
And let's not even get started on Rob's Gunpla habits.
I ❤ PTSD the anime!
When people ask where you want to live in a fictional Universe I say no because it most universes everything goes wrong
I find the whole newtype thing quite a dangerous idea. As a german it reminds me of all the master race bullshit a certain morron with a mustage pulled.
But on the other hand no one is getting purged for not beeing a new type and them beeing all about understanding and peace seems fine. but yea not my favourite aspect of Gundam.
The thing I love about newtype is just what you said, in Zeon Deikum's original idea, was only the next step, something that would happen gradually, then Adolf Zabi family turns it into race bullshit, when none of then even got close to being a newtype, is a concept and story that I personally love, and the fact that they are essentially emotional Jedis is just the cherry on top of it all
31:52 Not necessarily pointless. If Amuro had the Alex he may have killed Char outright, possibly leading to Jamitov or Axis Zeon ruling the earth sphere as tyrants.
Jamitov would've been killed by Scirocco, and Judau was the one who killed Haman.
We need more Boomer mecha like this.
Depression for everyone.
"NOTHIN BUT A PILE OF HAMBURGERS SIR"
I’ve never seen such a hopeful final episode go to complete shit for the main characters so quickly and suddenly. It’s fucking great lmao.
Bernie does a codec call to alfred telling him about metal gear
Just like one of my Japanese animes, bro.
Can't believe the hamburgers line was actually in the dubbed version I watched.
Do it again Bomber Harris! Send the firestorm LeMay! (Dresden was a major rail network and was absolutely a military target) also what the hell TH-cam why no notification for 3 months
TH-cam tries not to promote weird edgy nonsense made by a pair of idiots. And honestly, who can blame them?
Saddest shit I’ve watched in a while
I'd love to see how Al turned out as an adult.
Either a pretty sturdy and emotionally resilient dude... or a total mess (man I hope it's the latter, tho).
@@WeHeartGiantRobots Hey are you guys gonna ever review Origin? It's really what got me back into gundam and rewatch the whole UC timeline. Yall should do ZZ as well🤣🤣🤣
An emotional Trainwreck.
Best outro ever
I volunteer as Idiot! Just so long as I don't have to edit! :-P
0080 is because of the year, dunno if that was a joke
so now that you have all this time when is rob getting strapped into a chair and forced to watch all of ZZ to review it????
What a sadistic idea. I love it.
Could someone please tell me what the clip from 0:23 is from? Thanks
'That Mitchell and Webb Look', my man. Specifically the Quiz Broadcast sketches.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots thanks mate, and thanks for the great video, and for saving me 25 minutes (gave the last episode a hard skip)
i love your video keep it up guys and yeah i idk why 1000 idiots like me suscribe to this channel but i am happy.
now i am going to say a universal truth.
the best gundam is .................
MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM THE ORIGIN, atleast the ovas .
I'm still thoroughly peeved they removed Origin from Netflix.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots it's on hulu
cheeki breeki
Also Britain is such a genius place, everything is genius about Britain...
Except for the fact it don’t own Iceland...
what is the Russian movie at 4:44 ?
Come and See. Or as I call it complete and utter depression and makes you want to off yourself.
hey... can you guys do victory gundam? I'm wondering if its worth the emotional investment...
It's a UC Gundam, so there's a good chance we'll get to it sooner or later.
But it's also 51 episodes and we're incompetent. So it may take a while.
It sucks tbh
Christina is best gril
35:24 Was that a Serial Experiemnts Lain reference? Doesn't matter actually, please have Robert summarize Lain in the future, I'm dying to hear how the fuck he intends to summarize that one
I would love to do something on Lain in the future, but given Rob and I's track record when it comes to longer series it might take a while.
Also why in the hell do British people call a stick of butter a knob of butter
Why do I feel like Avatar ripped off cowboy bebop’s art style and inserted it into a alien environment so that nobody could tell that it was actually Cowboy bebop art style?
ZZ actually have a very good second half.
Though i believe if you read Belthorchika Children and High-Streamer of CCA it's much better than the movie as it was how Tomino intended CCA to be. But I guess because of some pushing around things got mixed due to Sunrise but generally Tomino Gundam works in manga and novels are pretty much brilliant writing.
I've never been keen on the "stick with it and it gets better" argument, cos a show really should grab you from the get-go. That being said I ain't seen ZZ myself yet, so I have no dog in this fight.
Rob says he'll fight you, tho.
@@WeHeartGiantRobots The half way point of ZZ gets really dark with many characters dying left and right approaching Zeta levels.
The earlier parts is just goofy stuff that may or may not be anyone's liking but it went into that direction due to Zeta being depressing during the final moment.
Plus some stuff in ZZ changes half way in the show due to Sunrise randomly green lit the CCA movie.
The same thing happened to F91.
Guess the reason why Tomino went and tried to kill the franchise.
At least from that outcome we gained Crossbone, F91 manga and Belthorchika Children.
funny cause SEED is a real snoozer at the start and gets better late 20s.... and Seed Destiny is the exact opposite.
@@Matanumi seed was a total shit show half way through with character surviving bs. Seed destiny i can agree on
It does not have a good second half. That is the biggest lie in this community, y'all tricked me into watching 50 episodes of filler garbage. They are still doing the same zaney crap with 10 episodes to go, as they were doing in the very first episode. Judau and Co sneak into the weird Chinese Palace place by cross dressing while we're in the final part of the series.
Hey Dave, considering you like Doomer material and you guys were talking about WW2, try reading Götterdämmerung 1945, Germany's Last Stand in the East. Soviets against Nazis, with despair on both sides and fun for nobody
The Eastern Front was just a bad time all round. Not come across Russ Schneider before, I'll check him out.
I hate to tell ya fellas. But that gundam timeline was all sorts of fucked up. But the video turned out great.
I'd like to think the disclaimer below it explains why.
really like these videos but one thing that holds them back is the glitchyness of the videos in the background. i understand its part of the style but it makes the B roll unwatchable.
the 'style' also wards off automated copyright detection.
Yeah, it's definitely partly a means of evading a lot of automatic copyright detection stuff that TH-cam throws about these days (and it's also grounds to defend ourselves in the event of a manual claim: no-one can make the argument that we're trying to create a stand-in for the original material when we're messing with the footage so hard). That being said, the background video used here is mostly cos Rob and I are big Max Headroom nerds: we could look into finding an alternative that might not be so distracting in the future.
Appreciate the feedback though, chief.
I really like the glitchy effect, it’s a really unique style that leans into the old VHS vibe
so the apocalypse hassen't happened yet
god dammit!
I give it a week, then we're probably there.
Thank you man
Dresden WAS a military target. Specifically it was a major transport hub, refit and muster point for the Eastern Front. Get better sources, little guy.
Rob is this your alt account.
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WHY ARE ALL OF YOUR TWEETS IN ALL CAPS?!
good video tho
...you can turn all-caps off on Twitter?
20:32 song
sorry to be a hipster but Zambot 3 did the "absolutely destroyed buildings and civilians" stuff first
If you're struggling with the newtype stuff, you're kinda missing the point of Gundam and just going "wow, cool robot". Look at the politics of contolism and take the newtype stuff seriously instead of balking and you're going to get one hell of a lot more out of Gundam. That said, it does require some understanding of politics, of psychology and Japanese cultural contexts to "get", otherwise it just comes off as confusing.
Honestly, the newtype shenanigans has actually grown on me over the years. It was a bit jarring in 0079 (probably cos they had to rush it into the plot), but it gets fleshed out as the series goes on.
First comment gang
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arnt you a couple of memelords... im giveing this a dislike
This is my new favourite comment.