All NES Vs Master System Games Compared Side By Side
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- 0:00 - Addams Family
0:30 - Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes Of The Lance
1:00 - After Burner
1:30 - Aladdin
2:00 - Alien 3
2:30 - Alien Syndrome
3:00 - Altered Beast
3:30 - Asterix
4:00 - Batman Returns
4:30 - Bram Stoker's Dracula
5:00 - Bubble Bobble
5:30 - California Games
6:00 - Captain Silver
6:30 - Chase H.Q.
7:00 - Choplifter
7:30 - Cloud Master
8:00 - Dick Tracy
8:30 - Double Dragon
9:00 - Fantastic Dizzy
9:30 - Fantasy Zone
10:00 - Fantasy Zone 2: The Tears Of Opa-Opa
10:30 - Gauntlet
11:00 - George Foreman's KO Boxing
11:30 - Ghostbusters
12:00 - Home Alone
12:30 - Incredible Crash Dummies
13:00 - Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade: The Action Game
13:30 - Jungle Book
14:00 - Jurassic Park
14:30 - Klax
15:00 - Krusty's Fun House
15:30 - Lemmings
16:00 - Linus Spacehead's Cosmic Crusade
16:30 - Lion King
17:00 - Marble Madness
17:30 - Micro Machines
18:00 - Miracle Warriors
18:30 - Monopoly
19:00 - Ms. Pac-Man
20:00 - Newzealand Story
20:30 - Operation Wolf
21:00 - Pac-Mania
21:30 - Paperboy
22:00 - Prince Of Persia
22:30 - Rainbow Islands: The Story Of Bubble Bobble 2
23:00 - Rampage
23:30 - Rampart
24:00 - Renegade
24:30 - Robocop 3
25:00 - Rygar
25:30 - Shanghai
26:00 - Shinobi
26:30 - Simpsons: Bart Vs. The Space Mutants
27:00 - Simpsons: Bart Vs. The World
27:30 - Smash TV
28:00 - Smurfs
28:30 - Solomon's Key
29:00 - Space Harrier
29:30 - Speedball
30:00 - Spider-Man: Return Of The Sinister Six
30:30 - Spy Vs. Spy
31:00 - Star Wars
31:30 - Strider
32:00 - Super Off Road
32:30 - Terminator
33:00 - Terminator 2: Judgment Day
33:30 - Ultima IV: Quest Of The Avatar
34:00 - Wonder Boy/Adventure Island
34:30 - Wonder Boy In Monster Land
35:00 - World Games
35:30 - WWF Wrestlemania: Steel Cage Challenge
36:00 - Ys I: Ancient Ys Vanished - เกม
Amazing how good so many master system games looked for the time. some of them looked like early 16-bit titles because the coloring was so good.
The visuals are pretty astounding for a console of its time. It's basically the middle ground between the NES and the PC Engine.
they wanted to be better, but just didnt have enough power. still very impressive though
@@nnogoda- The SMS had plenty of power. Nintendo locked them out of competing in North America with their exclusive agreements with 3rd party developers.
Or was that what you were referring to?
Even before the Genesis, Sega did what Nintendon't.
@@jetfrog4574true. Still with Megadrive the SNES color wise did what SEGA did not. More or less the reverse situation of NES / master system ironically
Sadly, or not, I was a SEGA guy all the way until the company stopped making systems. They had so many great games
I was a Nintendo and later on Sony guy all my life and I regret that I never have played Sega as well as a kid. Especially the Sega Genesis had and or still has such a great library of games.
Which I had owned both consoles as a kid.
Definitely sad😅😂
@kevinzalac8945 Like what kind of games? I owned an NES, Sega Genesis, Sega CD, and an SNES as a kid. The biggest (and most original) library was owned by Nintendo despite Sega's false advertising. What great original titles aside from the Sonic franchise and Comix Zone could you get on the Sega Genesis, that you couldn't get on the SNES?
@@cjsvinyl streets of rage series, vectorman 1 & 2, Shining Force 1 & 2, Powerstone 1&2, toe Jam and Earl 1, contra hard corps, Rastan, Golden Axe series, Dark Wizard, two crude dudes, Dragon Force, General Chaos, Shinobe 3, pig skin football, Shadow Dancer, Burning Rangers, the first UFC game ever, Desert Strike, Jungle Strike, Rock n Roll Racing, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Road Rash series, Afterburner, Quintet, Alex Kid series, Out Run, Crazy Taxi, Out Runners, X-Men, X-Men 2 (cant remember it’s actual title, children of the atom or something), Dinos For Hire, Crusader: No Remorse, Fighting Vipers, Virtual ON, TMNT Hyperstone Heist, Mortal Kombat without blood/gore nerf, Alien Trilogy.
These are Sega titles in general that I liked on their systems.
Shining Force 1 & 2 are two of the best RPGs period. And two of my favorite games of all time.
also. Strider. Virtua cop 1&2, Die Hard Arcade
@@kevinzalac8945And Haunting Starring Polterguy.
I had both as a kid... the SMS was a GREAT system... it was capable of much more detailed and larger sprites than the NES; you can really see it on the "cartoon" games like Alladin, Jungle Book, Lion King. It's really unfortunate that it never really caught on in the US.
I remember seeing the SMS & 7800 in Sears catalogues and really wanting them even though I knew nothing about them. It's a shame the SMS was so uncommon in America that I didn't have a friend that had one so I could have played it back then.
Not true. NES and SMS have the same sprite sizes, limits of sprites per scanline and max number os sprites on screen.
SMS almost looks 16bit in comparison to NES
It looks way better than I expected for a lot of these.
The Master System version of Double Dragon is what i was expecting when i got the NES version for Christmas in 1988 and was very disappointed.Segas version was so much closer to the arcade and had what i liked most about the game,2 player simultaneous.
The lack of 2 player is both baffling and a major issue. Beat em ups are always more fun with a friend. And it's not like they couldn't do it due to console limitations since Double Dragon 2 had 2 player support.
Wow, as someone who owned a master system and then transitioned to the snes, I had no clue how amazing it looked compared to the nes. Truly stunning and I had no idea lol. Miss those days, gaming felt more genuine and exciting. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for checking this out! The SMS was like an NES Pro at least visually. It's crazy how good a lot of these looked.
newer technology generally looks better. Master System was based off Mark III which was released in 1985, while NES was the Famicom from 1983. They did do some clever things with NES later in its life, but it should have been as powerful as a Master System had Nintendo bothered to update their hardware beyond a disk system.
Thank you for all your hard work. These comparisons are great and usefull for us who loves RetroGaming
My pleasure, thank you for watching these:)
Wow... The Master System totally kicks ass.
It's super underrated, at least in America it is.
NES has better sound , but the master had better graphics capabilities. Awesome side by side.
Thanks for watching! You're spot on, they each had their own advantages.
No way...NES sound is garbage.
Yes, friend, the NES is good at sound processing, they used several channels, for square, triangle and noise for beat and explosion effects, the master was in the video graphic process, bigger sprites and more color details both in scenes, and larger color palettes, but the sound was just the squares, it was a sin because it lacked noise and triangles, as in the case of nes
@@rafaelsevero5891 but the result is poor. The sms soiund is more agradable to my ears
@@rafaelsevero5891 Also, the NES had different duty-cycle settings and envelope and sweep features for the square waves, all of which makes a big difference.
I had Sega master system with light gun and 3d glasses and brother had NES. Games like super Mario bros, punch out, legend of Zelda, Metroid is what made NES better not graphics.
Both had a ton of classics but it's hard to beat those games you mentioned.
With some of those games it's not even close like if you look at the sprites on heroes of the lance. Also it's pretty amazing how close that Master system Lion King looks to the 16-bit lion kings
The graphics on some of these SMS are amazing for an 8 bit console. Not in this video of course but Road Rash is one that really blew me away with how good it looked.
Thank you for the comparison video, I didn't know the game libraries had so much overlap between the two systems!
Thanks for watching! I was surprised too. Actually that happens a lot for these videos. I go into it thinking there's like 30 games overlapping and then it turns out to to be like 80+.
Amazing differences. I'm impressed with the Master System.
it should be noted it's newer tech as the Famicom came out in 1983, and the Mark 3 in 1985.
I'm impressed with both the NES and the MS.
@@user-bk9fk2tq2z I think that kind of goes without saying, no?
I've had an NES since 1986. I've never not been impressed with it. I wasn't aware of the Master System until recent years, and this video shows that its ports have superior graphics almost across the board.
@@pika62221true, but the SMS was pretty much a souped up SG 1000. Doesn't take away how great the games look tho.
The NES already looked and sounded better than most of it's competitors (SG1k & MSX) at the time it was released.
It's not mind blowing esp before mappers, but it was better than anything else on the market, until the SMS released.
Master System is better in every and all games!
Master system is closer to 16bit than to NES.
Incredible machine, let's not forget it came in 1986...
It's pretty astonishing how good it looked for a console from 86. Even the output was great with it offering native RGB, something even the N64 didn't have.
The Famicom was also impressive for coming out in 1983, the same day as the SG-1000!
@@BagOfMagicFood That is very true. It was only a year after the ColecoVision to put it in perspective.
The Master System was a truly exceptional console, deserving far more recognition than it ever received. By every conceivable metric, it outshined the NES. Fortunately, in Australia, the Master System reigned supreme, dominating the 8-bit era as the console of choice. Almost no one owned an NES. This success story should have been echoed around the globe.
I totally agree. Almost anyone I ask here in America about the Master System doesn't even know what it is outside of retro game enthusiasts. Most of my friends around my age call the Genesis "The Sega" and think it was their first console.
If you mute the video master system is the clear winner, if not.... it's complicated
Lol very true
Tazmania on the SMS is very impressive as it displays all the colors and animations the SMS could deliver with almost 0 flicker. It really looks like an early megadrive game.
While the SMS usually has better graphics Nintendo always had a better legal team! 😂
Lmao! They're the Disney of video games when it comes to legal.
Nes 8bit SMS 10bit 😁😄
Realmente, os crimes de monopólio da BigN ameaçando as softhouses de expulsá-las do seu time era terrível. As desvantagens gráficas do seu console era bastante evidente. O jeito era jogar sujo.
sms: better, graphics, colors. nes:in sounds and larger library, even though there are many unlicensed
The SMS is a whole generation after the NES, the NES was made in Japan in 1983, whereas the Sg-1000 was what competited with that. The SMS (Sega Mark III) was made in 1985 as a generation after the NES.
This is one of those cases where the same video game company released 2 consoles in the same generation. Atari did it with the 2600 & 5200 and SNK with the Neo Geo AES & Neo Geo CD.
Alladin looked incredible on the Sega Master System. That 3d effect on the buildings was really good!
It's so cool to see what they could pull off on 8 bit hardware, especially since by that point the SMS wouldn't have been the #1 priority.
The Sega Master System - the most criminally underrated console of the 8-Bit era! End of story!
Great side by side video by the way!
Thanks for watching! Yeah the SMS is vastly underrated, at least in North America.
In Brazil It kicked Nintendo`s ass!!
And I would like to see. It also came out two years after the Nintendo NES, so it was more advanced
@@giuset.6416 Very good point. Though these were the two main consoles that competed in the third gen, the SG-1000 was the console that originally competed with the NES/Famicom.
I love this kind of content! Fantastic job! Well done!
Thanks so much for checking this out!
That was long overdue, thank you very much for that, love it 😍. i always prefered the nintendo sound chips they used in the older systems back then over the sega earmelter audio mayhems 😂
Thanks so much my friend! This is wayyy overdue. It's been on my radar now for at least 3 years.
@@RetroComparisons these are the two systems that started the gaming journey for al lot us (retro) gaming freaks i guess
and for this reason there are some retro emulators where you can choose between different soundchips for the master system and mega drive
Wow, looks like for a lot of games, the Master System was already a next gen console compared with NES
Love this channel
Thank you so much:)
Great! But lol at that Bart vs the World footage, and you should have put the NES titles for the Wonder Boy games (Adventure Island)
The different audio tracks from the left and right speaker is a great old school video arcade kinda sound.
I grow up with the NES in the late 80s and early 90s and all of my friends had a NES too at this time but wow this comparison Video show the power of the master System the graphics looks much better compare to the NES Versions. Very cool Video ❤
Thanks for watching! The NES had a stellar library and a lot of other things going for it but the SMS was like a NES Pro when it came to graphics.
Was Sega’s third console and released years after NES making the graphics process more advanced.
Great video, the only game that is lacking a good comparison on this list is Bart vs. The World where it shows the card mini game instead of the actual action stages, interestingly, the only 16-bit version of this title went to the Amiga, the Master System looks almost as good as that one but lacks the story elements present on the NES, which I believe is the original release.
Oh my word...Choplifter on my master system.one of my favorites along with Rastan!
Those are both such fun games!
I was the odd kid that ended up with a Sega Master System because my Dad found one used cheap and thought it was the same thing as a NES lol!
My friends would make fun of me for it. Then one day we actually set up two tvs and compared Shinobi,Double dragon side by side. It shut them up real quick!
I was still secretly jealous though because they had mario, zelda and punch out!
Haha oh the tribalism we had as kids:) I would have been jealous too if I had the SMS and my friends had that incredible NES library of games to choose from but they're both amazing consoles.
The only problem with this debate is when people , usually Americans, that love the NES for nostalgia think that the SMS is trash and only the Nes had top quality games …
When it comes to the library in America it's a no brainer but when you consider the vast amount of European & Brazilian exclusives on the SMS it makes for an interesting debate on who had the best games.
@@RetroComparisons What's important to note is that the NES (Famicom) beat the SMS in Japan as well, so the majority of games we got here in the States were top-shelf Japanese games, which we loved.
Since when do americans know what is good taste? .... They vote for an idiot like Trump and eat rotten fast food and consider this real "food".
@@jjprulz That was the problem, the most iconic games of the moment only came out for the NES and the Nintendo exclusives were always very good and desired.
Master System graphics wins🎉
yes, in fact, i would have never excpected that there is so much difference
Except when they don't. This is full of examples where "more color" is all it has going for it, but its missing effects, or sprite detail that the NES game has. Then you have examples like Smash TV where the SMS version looks like an early alpha build compared to the NES game.
@@SomeOrangeCat Captain Silver really shows the difference that you're talking about too.
@@RetroComparisons Then there's the elephant in the room of sound design. SMS regularly loses to the NES there.
@@SomeOrangeCat Thanks for pointing that out, I never thought that the SMS graphics were so superior comparing to the NES, I can think of Ninja Gaiden, as you said NES had more detailks into it, the SMS seems more minimalistic.
The Master System was usually the more competant console for multi-platform games.
I loved the NES, but the MS was amazing.
If Nintendo never had a water tight grip on the 5 game rule for developers the 8-Bit gaming landscape could have been so much more different.
Only Europe saw the best of what the MS really had to offer during that era (except Brazil in later years of course).
Cheers.
It would have been very interesting to see an alternate reality where Nintendo didn't have that iron grip. Sega broke through in America anyways with the Genesis but I wonder what would have happened had the SMS had more of a fair chance.
@@RetroComparisons
It would've been interesting in a fair North American head to head with both 8-Bit machines going at it.
At least we can enjoy the best of both these days.
Cheers.
Wow i didn't expect the sms games to look on the whole way better !
Me neither, they look fantastic.
Wow the music on the NES Altered Beast is amazing
At least it doesn't have that distorted scream that the SMS has.
Master system is the best!
Wow! I never imagined that the Master System was so superior compared to the NES. I always thought they were kind of equivalent.
Same here, I was blown away by the graphics on the SMS.
I think it would help to list the developers as well, as clearly anything Capcom or Konami put out on the NES would be favourable compared to LJN’s crap. That’s not really a Sega vs Nintendo hardware issue, more of a “who is actually good at porting this.”
Part of it was a hardware issue. The Sega Master System had a larger colour palette and could display more colours on screen at a time than the NES.
@@ginormousaurus8394 but Nintendo worked around that with their MMC chips. Hence why they had MMC chips.
And Master System takes the win!
What can I say except thanks for taking the time to put this together, Bill. BTW, I saw some arguments on reddit about what you were running the games on with your PS1 vs DC video a couple weeks ago. So, I forgot to mention it in the time since, but maybe you should include a little note on your recording setup in the description (or in a pinned comment) of the big videos like this to, possibly, quiet the naysayers. On that note, I don't recall if you said you own an SMS or if you just play SMS games via everdrive (or Power Base Converter) on the Genesis etc.
So, I believe I've said before that I bought (I think I actually traded a couple of games for) a used Power Base Converter in '99, maybe 2000, that a sort-of local used game/VHS/music shop called couch potato video had. It had 3 games with it (just carts no boxes/manuals), and those are the only 3 master system games I own: Spy vs Spy, Shinobi (THE reason I decided to buy it), and Rambo (the overhead Commando/Ikari-like one). I actually enjoyed all 3, so that was a decent buy. Mine's mutilated though because I cut the entire back of it off with a dremel because it didn't fit on my Genesis (I didn't know it wouldn't when I bought it, and people in newsgroups said to just chop it off...that did work though even if it uglied it up...). Also, I bought a Master System at a thrift shop in the early 00s during college, but it didn't work. And, I couldn't fix it, so I got rid of it. I've not really felt the want/need to get another one, especially since I got a Genesis everdrive. That's not a knock against the SMS: there's a number of games I really like on it, but I just don't have really any nostalgia for it. I should at least pick up a copy of Double Dragon though...I thought about it before, but never did.
From what I watched here and my own experience, I think for the games that are cross-platform releases on both the NES and SMS, I'd probably lean slightly towards the SMS though maybe also give them a tie. Most games look at least a little better on the SMS, while some look a lot better due to colors. There are some SMS games though, like Ultima IV which stuck to the computer versions' tile-based movement (though you have the same issue with the NES Miracle Warriors) or the choppy scrolling in Gauntlet on SMS which is an issue in other games that are not in this list, that favor the NES because of performance. And, of course, you have a lot more flicker in SMS games which is instantly apparent when you play Double Dragon. But, some of the games certainly look nearly a generation apart due to 16-color tiles on the SMS. So, even with the sprite flicker/drop-out, I'd give the SMS the win in graphics.
Sound is a totally different matter. The SN76496 was fairly old by the time the SMS came out, but it was still 'okay enough' compared to the NES (and massively better than the TIA in the 7800 though in the few games that used it, I prefer the Pokey over the SN76496). I suppose the SN76496 had to be there for SG-1000 compatibility (at least in Japan), but in the vast majority of games here, I prefer the NES sound when we are just talking PSG. But, for the games that support the FM Sound Unit, well that's a whole 'nother story. The FM soundtrack in SMS Double Dragon is by far the best of the early home ports, and I prefer it to even the Genesis rendition of the soundtrack. Of course, the Famicom also had the expanded audio with the FDS and carts with add-in chips, so though I like the OPLL FM soundtracks in some SMS titles, I don't think it's necessarily a huge advantage over something like Konami's VRC7, which has fairly similar FM audio just with some bigger limitations. So, stock PSG sound chips? I'd give the NES the win though the SMS can sound good in the right hands. With expansion audio? Closer to a tie.
If we are taking JUST this cross-platform subset of games, I'd, as I said, probably slightly lean towards the SMS overall even though, of the ones I've played, I do prefer a few games on the NES side like Double Dragon (yeah, the SMS leans to being more arcade accurate, has an amazing FM soundtrack and decently good PSG soundtrack, and is 2-player simultaneous...but, to ME, the NES game just feels better to play...if some of hit detection and gameplay stuff were just tighted up a bit, the SMS would be the clearly better version for me). But, for me, I love the NES and had so much fun with the games that are on Nintendo's system that are NOT on the SMS. It'll always be my favorite for that generation of consoles both from a nostalgia standpoint as well as just simply having such a broad variety of titles and amazing exclusives. I do respect the SMS (in terms of actual commercially-released games, it certainly was a better competitor to the NES than the 7800) and have had fun with many of the games I've played for it though I have more love for the hardware in the form of the Game Gear.
So well said my friend! I couldn't sum this up any better than you did. My opinions for the most part mirror yours when it comes to these consoles. The SMS did look better for the most part but didn't always have the better gameplay. Double Dragon is the first one that came to my mind too where the NES was inferior in pretty much every way but I would go for the NES port every single time if given the choice. Conversely, Renegade is a great example of a beat em up that feels leagues apart graphically and the SMS kills it with gameplay whereas the NES is bottom of the barrel. Then you have games like Altered Beast where it looks really good for the SMS but plays like trash. The NES isn't much better but is still so much more playable.
Ugh yeah for the PS1 vs DC video I was getting pretty annoyed by the comments. Like I specifically waited on doing anything for the Dreamcast until I had a viable solution for getting the best quality out of it. For the PS1 I actually did emulate some stuff, specifically the 480i games because the OSSC is not good at getting a clean signal for that and I thought wouldn't make for a great comparison considering it would look great going through something like the Retrotink 5x. But I think people just assume the PS1 looks crappy by default because they've used composite cables and don't know how good it cleans up with a scart cable being line doubled by the OSSC. I've considered it a few times of putting a disclosure in the notes but I figured the people that shit all over the videos won't take the time to read it anyways. Side note, I've gotten a ton of "this isn't a fair comparison" lately too which makes me roll my eyes as if I'm trying to assert the Dreamcast's superiority over the Playstation. As for the SMS it's a mixed bag of what I used and I'm not even sure what's what without going back and looking at the timestamps for when I recorded the footage as the overwhelming majority were not recorded for this video specifically. Before the channel even existed I did emulate some stuff and captured footage because I figured I may want to use it for a potential channel some day so a small percentage may be those. Then when I started doing the SMS vs Genesis season early on it was all running through a Genesis model 1. Then I eventually got an Everdrive for the SMS so there's footage from that too.
Interesting, I never really thought about how they are played!
@@RetroComparisonsUnfair comparisons makes zero sence other than to compare one system to another with the same game. I have been most intriuged by the quality and efforts of the ports not so much a game may pass through different generations. It is a no brainer a game "Should" look better on a newer generation but it doesn't always which makes the power of a side by side comparison so strong.
Keep up the badassery man!
@@RetroComparisons You should find the cheapest, most absolutely worn-out 45+ year old color CRT you can find, hook up the consoles via RF, record them off-camera on a VHS camcorder in super long-play with plenty of shaky camera movement, digitize while keeping the interlaced combing artifacts, and then present your split-screen comparison but split horizontally with each footage of the TV squished vertically and stretched horizontally to fill their half of the frame...
@@RetroComparisons Also, I forgot to mention it in my original comment, but the fact that both Klax and Krusty's Revolting Outhouse are not just in the video but one right after the other seems like a personal attack lol .
people are kinda down on the SMS's sound here, but i find that "singing crystals" sound is rather beautiful. i think the NES had more versatile sound, but in the right hands the SMS sounds amazing.
More often then not I think the NES had the better audio but the SMS was capable of having great sounding audio too when utilized correctly.
This is a nice video, but listening to two different versions of the soundtracks the whole time meant that I had to turn off the sound at some point.
The SMS hit a year after the NES...the SMS definitely had a better color palette. I always thought Arcade ports over to the SMS were superior to the ports for the NES (the side-by-side proves it), largely because the color palette of the NES was so limited, so a number of games were downright ugly on the NES. Where the NES shined was its overall game library...and most games sounded a lot better on the NES. Both consoles were great, but the NES wins hands-down for its broad assortment of games...this was an area where Sega could not compete.
That's a perfect summation of these consoles. And just as a side note, next year I'll be exploring every game on both systems that was an arcade port so it will be interesting to see how those games stack up on these 8 bit consoles.
@@RetroComparisonsWill look forward to it. For Arcade ports the SMS versions will most likely look vastly better.
Both the NES and the Sega MS had good looking games, but the Sega MS just edged the victory. Neither system had 'ugly' looking games.
@@user-bk9fk2tq2zthe only thing I'd say is ugly about NES graphics might be the yellows in the palette, but that's it
Oh and this 6:59
I never even knew about the Master System when I was young. Looks way better.
Most people that I know who were into gaming in the late 80s/early 90s thought the Genesis was the first Sega console and I can see why. Outside of Europe and Brazil the Master System was hardly promoted and not part of the cultural zeitgeist.
Many games like Aladdin, Astérix, Batman returns have the same title, but are totally differents, because they come from other editors
It's like watching a comparison video between the Genesis and Snes, but the Genesis is the NES and Snes is the Master System.
Master system almost looks half way to 16 bit.
Love the Side-By-Side comparison for graphics and animations... but no-one can compare sound/music when sound tracks from both consoles are played together : without headphones the result is an unbearable audio mess (had to mute the video sound to get to the end when I played the video on my TV). It's better whith headphones, but listening to totally different soundtracks in each ear is a very tiring process.
Maybe you could alternate sound from one console to another with a 'speaker' icon next to the console name to indicate which one is currently active.
That sure was an interesting watch, thank you very much for making this. Other than the obvious Wonder Boy/Adventure Island, I didn't have the faintest idea that so many Sega games had crossed over to the NES.
Thanks for checking this out:) I was really surprised too at the sheer number of games that crossed over. In case you're interested, I also did a similar video comparing all Genesis vs SNES games.
its like take all the code of the NES games, and put new skins on them
Great video great work
Thanks so much!
I had no idea the Master System was so great!! Thanks
Thanks for watching! Yeah I started to put this together I didn't realize how much of a graphical improvement most of these SMS would be.
If you watch at 2x speed, then you have
Left Ear: NES (2x speed)
Right Ear: Sega Master System (2x speed)
NES always looked worse but the gameplay was always tighter and the sound was usually better.
In a way it's a bit like the Game Boy vs Game Gear series that I'm working on right now. The Sega console often looks better and more vibrant but the Nintendo console has the more detailed sprites and better sound. Of course that's not always the case but it seems to happen in many instances.
@@RetroComparisonsGameGear was awful IMO, the Nomad was awesome though.
Oddly the Lynx had some impressive graphics but we never knew until emulation because the display was terrible. Same with the TurboDuo, great graphics with a terrible display but I had a TG16 so I knew how bad the display was on the Duo.
@@timmturner The Nomad was so cool and I wanted that so bad as a kid (and as an adult lol). I've never seen a TurboDuo in person but from the videos I've seen that looks so awesome.
@@RetroComparisons yeah the Nomad was really cool, the TurboDuo was also but the screen was tiny, had major ghosting, and awful washed out color. It was still awesome.
Err, you mean the TurboExpress, the Duo was the one with integrated CD ROM drive.
I always heard Sega games could display more color and detail but I thought it was like the difference between regular video and HD where I can't tell the difference. Actually, seeing these side by side, it's INSANE how much more color and even detail the Master System has over the NES versions. On almost every game, the Master System looks better.
The graphics on the SMS are pretty astounding. Between how good it looked and how incredible the NES library was it's no wonder the 7800 failed.
Yes if we compare all consoles up to MS basically it was 2 bit bank based graphics. While MS had 4 bit banked graphics. Actually the same as Megadrive had
Como pequenas decisões de design de hardware muda tudo .
O master system tem um chip gráfico mais potente, porém , como a memória de vídeo não é acessível diretamente pela CPU , isso da uma limitada na flexibilidade do que pode ter na tela .
Já o NES , para cortar custos , juntou tudo em um barramento só , como efeito colateral , a CPU do NES consegue manipular os sprites e modos de tela com muito mais agilidade. Inclusive trocando o modo de tela durante o frame.
o nes é mais rapido
O nes é superior,o som tem mais canais,e o sprites é mais rápido,e são menores e tem coloração mais puxado pro roxo e vinho,da mais agilidade
Rainbow Islands & Speedball 2 😍😍 I played these on AMIGA, good memories
Those are both really fun games.
Graficamente o MS da um show no Nes, mais o Nes fez mais sucesso pela quantidade maior de jogos eu acho, foi bem parecido com o PS2 e o Xbox classico
Wow as a kid I had both systems but I never compared because I didn’t get games on both consoles. SMS really kicked, but those exclusive and signature games on the NES really separated those console brands apart. Sonic stood test of time but Nintendo had more stand out IPs.
You hit the nail on the head. It's not always about what has the best graphics or audio. Sometimes it comes down to the library of games. To be fair, both had incredible games but there's no denying that the NES had so many more classics than the SMS.
Nes 8bit look, SMS 12 bit look
Ha yeah exactly. Visually speaking if you did an evolution chart it would go NES, SMS, PC Engine, Genesis.
I had a Sega master system growing up. We also had a beta max. It seemed like everyone else had the NES and VHS. We eventually had to get them both if you wanted the variety of games and videos.
In some ways you had the superior products with the SMS and beta max but unfortunately they ended up being on the losing side of history.
Nintendo did shitty things to make themselves number one by forcing stores to either carry only them, or they'd pull their product from the shelves, and only sell what minorities had.
You must be American if you had to buy an NES for games
@@alexojideagu Yep, I was born in this generation but grew up more in the Genesis/SNES generation. But everyone that I knew who had an older sibling had a NES. Here in American the SMS was a rarity to see.
Interesting experience listening with headphones.
I'm not surprised the more powerful Master System looks better most of the time, but the NES still does a wonderful job.
I was expecting minimal differences honestly, but then I saw Altered Beast and holy WOW the Master System really flexing on us there. Damn.
Sega's lighting is what makes them come out on top with these 2 ..
If Sega had the marketing/PR Nintendo had in the 80's the gaming world would be very different!
Nintendo didn't have shit PR, they used illegal techniques to make themselves number one, and stay there. Look up the 1991 lawsuit against them in America.
The Master System looks like a 12-bit console if such a thing were to ever exist
I know right! It was like the missing link between the NES and the PC Engine.
Well if we disregard the lack of several layers and not as detailed graphics. Having 32 colors possible for the background was pretty similar to the Megadrive’s possible 64 color so depending on the situation one could “feeling” wise have MS graphics look quite similar to MD graphics
Different approaches. MS had more graphics by sacrificing the scope of the viewport, but NES has better playability and more fluid gaming in most of the titles.
Nice! On most of these Master System wins on graphics (if not clearly!), but not the case necessarily on sound and def not gameplay.
Master system was better
Thank you for the great video and all the hard work that it entails. I humbly have one little critique. Why in heaven's name do you play the sound for both games at the same time? I understand it might be a technical limitation, but the noise it creates made me mute the video. This is a shame because it make difficult to compare the sound as well as the visuals.
Thanks for checking this out! I appreciate the feedback on this. There's not a great way to demonstrate the audio at the same time. It can either be done 1 at a time which I do for a lot of my single game videos but the overwhelming feedback I've gotten over the years is to split the audio hard left and hard right so each ear corresponds to the matching port on screen. I agree that without headphones it does become quite messy.
It seems to come down to framerates, flickering and color picking arrangement, more than hardware specs.
The Master System had they way more detailed sprites for sure, amazing, these were already close to what the SNES spriteworks would look like in my opinion! :o
The visuals are pretty astonishing for a console that competed in the same generation as the NES & 7800.
Gomez Adams looks like he came from India on the Master System!
Wow i didnt realise how good the master sysyem games looked compared to the nes !
Same here. I still like the feel of a lot of the NES games over the SMS but it does look incredible for its time.
Much larger sprites on sega generally, would have looked much better on our small tvs back then
for you to see, the sms sprites were very large, almost like a 16-bit one, from the next generation, the nes ones were so tiny, without my glasses I couldn't see anything
O jogos do Master System são levementes mais bem trabalhados se comparados aos jogos do NES.
Levemente ???? Você esta louco ? Cara, os de Master System são uma Ferrari e os de Nes um fusca amassado nesse comparativo
@@leandrolej Falando assim parece que não gosta dos jogos do Nintendinho (NES). O Double Dragon prefiro do NES; Ninja Gaiden, MS; ambos tem jogos muito bons. Eu possui um Master System II com Alex Kidd na memória e um jogo de pistola que não me lembro o nome. Apesar de eu nunca ter tido um NES, sempre joguei na casa de colegas de infância. Amo os dois videogames.
Gostar e uma coisa, a outra e argumentar contra fatos, e so ver a diferenca e brutal em alguns jogos, como e hj em dia com ps4 , xbox e switch, nintendo nunca foi sinonimo de jogos de ultima geracao sempre tem as piores versoes...e isso quando tem ...
@@3000tomcat Que fatos!? Tanto o NES tem jogos bons e gráficos bonitos quanto o Master System, são equivalentes.
SMS tem muito mais cores vivas e detalhadas faz o nes parecer uma coisa de vídeo game de geração anterior,pena que não exploraram direito na época e já adiaram o mega drive em 1988
Master System for me. I always preferred the graphics, especially the colour pallette, the NES had an aversion to the colour red apparently and just saddled on either off pink or dirty burgundy.
The graphics on the SMS really hold up well for an 8 bit system.
Mario's overalls were perfectly redin the first Mario game
or a yellow, somewhat mustard color, or that faint green
@@XxxXxx-br7eqyes the nes was limited, the color palette
Sega Master System had a larger color palette and a splash graphics technique that allowed miracles, but comparing it to 16bits is a joke.
The problem with SMS was the audio, beeps, beeps, beeps.
So if we were to make grotesque comparisons, SMS was for 16bits in graphics and for Atari 2600 in audio.
Never knew nes had a version of shinobi & Alter beast However fan of both systems grew up on both but give sega the edge.
It's weird to see some of those Sega games on a Nintendo console, at least back then. After Burner is another one that I would have never thought was on the NES.
The Sega Master System looked the best, it blows me away on some games actually how well it looks with the greater color palette. The 7800 didnt have a chance at competing anymore when the SMS released.
The 7800 doesn't even look or sound like it's in the same generation when going head to head with the Master System.
@@RetroComparisons It feels like you're playing an enhanced 2600; It used the same sound chip if I'm not mistaken.
@@retrogamingpub3186 I get that having backwards compatibility was a cool thing but making the sacrifice of having the 2600 sound chip in order to do that was a huge mistake on their part.
It was not so much down to the palette. Even if it was better. Bit more down to that you could have 16 colors freely mixed on a tile / sprite basis (basically same as the SNES and Megadrive ) vs the 4/3 colors the NES could have - from the palette that yes was not the greatest
The graphics were better on the Master System, but the frame rate was smoother on the NES.
And i had a Master System and not a nes.
Frame rate depended on the game really on not on the console.
I remember a year speaking on this list, pretty good, although there were some games that were missing such as Black Belt/Hokuto No Ken (Fist Of the North Star), Ninja Gaiden or Puyo Puyo
Thanks for watching my friend! I was actually referencing the list you had sent me when doing this video which I very much appreciate you helping out with:) I decided to hold off on those 3 particular games. The Hokuto No Ken ports are technically considered different entities in the series and the same goes for Ninja Gaiden where the SMS one I believe is considered the 5th in the series. Puyo Puyo is basically the same thing as Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine though that's another one of those weird grey areas where I guess technically they're not the same game even though they pretty much are. For example, the Genesis & SNES both have straight ports of Puyo Puyo in addition to Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine/Kirby's Avalanche. Anywho, these were just judgment calls when piecing this video together but I agree those 3 could technically make the list. Thanks again for your list on this:)
@@RetroComparisonsNo Problem dude
@@RetroComparisonsYeah, I guess when different people/companies get their hands on intellectual properties, they have different ideas, hence the Same Name, Different Game Phenomenon. To be fair too, I forgot that Aladdin was shared by both consoles. And I didn't think of Super Off Road, good choice. And there will be those games where they're similar, but because they're in the same series, like Commando (NES)/Mercs (SMS), Kung Fu (NES)/Vigilante (SMS), Kid Kool (NES)/Psycho Fox (SMS) and BattleToads (NES)/BattleManiacs (SMS). Also games like Tennis (NES)/Super Tennis (SMS) and Ice Hockey (NES)/Great Ice Hockey (SMS) are suspiciously similar, despite being from Nintendo or SEGA respectively. And they both have a "Pro Wresting" but both of those games are separate games from both companies again.
@@Flo_Resolution Those are all great examples. In fact, that would be a fun video to do in its own right of games that are basically the same thing but technically considered different entities.
Black Belt was easily my favourite side scrolling beat'em up, i still play it every once in a while for a bit of fun
My big brother wanted the SMS for Xmas but we had to settle with the NES back in the late 80's
Getting a SMS or NES sounds like a win/win. It could have been worse where you ended up with a 7800 lol
Settle? The NES had a bigger, better game library.
I thought that some of these games were master system only like fantasy zone2 and shinobi.
Same here. Alien Syndrome was another that I always thought was a SMS/Game Gear exclusive.
Wish you alternated the music or something. Hearing them both at the same time is like a form of torture.
Lol! It sounds better with headphones but yeah with a speaker it can be a mess.
I had them both back in the day and always thought that the SMS had the better graphics of the two, I also had the Game Gear which was amazing back then!
Still have a Game Gear today and an original Game boy with an updated screen, it's hard to keep my 9 year old daughter of them lol
I will buy both of these systems again as the both have their own gems to play
Haha that's proof of their greatness that even kids today want to play the Game Gear and Game Boy. Having one of those modded screens is such an improvement. I did that with my Game Boy Color and it looks incredible compared to the original screen.
@@RetroComparisons I was on the fence about it at first, but after the mod was done I could not but it down, the game gear will be next.
Thanks for the Video, it was so cool to see those old games side by side
@@adrianharrison5208 Thanks so much for watching! You're going to love the Game Gear mod when you get that. A have a friend who got his modded and it looks so freaking good.
One came out in 1983, the other in 1985. Had the Master System been the Mark I, or had the Famicom been revamped, especially when it became the NES, they could have had similar architecture.
Very true. I also did a video a while back with the NES vs SG-1000 which both came out on the same day.
Without even looking at this video, I know damn well Master System had superior graphics. (Some games) even looked close to 16 bit at times
The graphics are so good that it's like the missing link between the NES and the PC Engine.
Realmente nunca probé el Terminator 2 de Master system me deja sorprendido 😯
I love both consoles. Here in Brazil, they're both very popular (well, if you count people who knows the NES by its clones). In most of the cases where the games are the same, the Master System version has better graphics, and when it have compatibility with the FM Sound Unit, the sound is also better. But there's games that are completely different games between consoles, and that's were the personal liking comes in.
But Alien Syndrome (even if it is a Sega game) is very more faithful to the arcade version, and it has the simultaneous 2P co-op mode, that makes it automatically better than the Master System version LOL
Anyway, both systems are great! Both in a good spot in my heart!
Thanks for checking this out! It's amazing to me that the SMS is still technically supported in Brazil decades after it stopped having games in the US, Europe and Japan. The graphics on the SMS are super impressive for the time but there definitely are some NES games that are better even with lesser graphics. Alien Syndrome like you pointed out is a great example.
@@RetroComparisons Yeah. Space Harrier too, I think Sega planned to do a game with large objects to make it look "next-gen" and be faithful to the arcade, but Takara did a way better job in the NES by just using smaller sprites, so the game runs at solid 60FPS. Sunsoft also did a great job on porting Fantasy Zone to the Famicom (specially when you realize Sega forgot the radar in the Master System version), making it more faithful to the arcade, and improving the overall experience. But they're still all very good games.
Y's 1 Vanished Omen was the best game for me for Sega Master System. I was 7 yo and i was playing for more than a year to finish this game (every day). Was a really hard game for a kid, full of enigmas, knowing the map and understanding what the people are saying (was crucial to the game move foward), I'm portuguese and the game is in english, actually at some point i was using a dictionary to fully understand the game.
And this game have a special detail, that the language was like an ancient english.
Really fun to play, really chalange game. Today it's unlikelly a kid plays a game for a year.
That's true dedication right there. I'm super impressed that you beat it in general, nevermind the fact it's not in your native language. Excellent work!
This honestly looks like a comparison between different generations.
It's pretty wild. It's like that console bridge between the NES and PC Engine.
damn....i feel like i was lied to. As a kid , i had a NES. I swore it was the best system overall at the time. I never really OWNED a sega. I rented it from time to time from the local video store. As an 8bot enthusiast, i cant believe i missed out on this as a kid. My NES was like a dream. As an only child who lived 15 miles in the country with NO friends or neighbors, this was my hero. I remember the graphics being so life like lol. And then i saw this video (im 44 now) and im just saddened by the fact that i never owned a SMS.....its like being the pope and finding out the Bible is just a bed time story.
It really sucks that in America at least the SMS was almost non-existent compared to the NES. Nintendo had incredible games but Sega at the time was no slouch either and the graphics on this were way ahead of their time for a home console. Plus it had native RGB output which even the N64 didn't have.
I had a NES, it was stolen. Then my mom bought me a redesigned Master System because it was cheaper. I didn’t like it because I didn’t know of any good games. I longed for my NES back for exclusives like Punch Out, Super Mario, contra, etc. Also, I had no one to trade games with, everyone had a NES.
Ugh that sucks! The Master System is fantastic but it is tough when all of your friends have the more popular console and have access to that amazing library of games.
Missed out on the master system as a kid, clearly most of there games had a better look.
Same here. It's a shame that outside of Brazil and some European countries that most people missed out on this console.
though release at the same time the master system seems a whole generation further
never realised that until this video 😃
If only Nintendo didn’t have strangle hold contracts… what could have been
That would be incredible, luckily the Master System was still standing with its success in South America...
It's curious how most games looked better on Master System.
master system has the same colors as the nes in terms of limatations, but the video card allowed the palletes to all be shared, while the nes ppu video card can only draw 1 pallete per sprite.