And when used with a Pi W they make great photo frames that change them selves. It will be interesting to see future versions with Color e-Ink screens. With tablets and laptops getting so well made these days the phone only needs to be dongle so this is probably more useful than we think. I would have this as a daily and probably find more ways to get the most out of it. If it was waterproof it would be almost military grade as is.
First Lumineux (who sponsored the excellent Inheritance Machining channel), now Laifen for Linus and Zack. All they did is just make me book an earlier appointment with my dentist.
An e-ink display is a perfect application for a folding phone. You have a low power draw display on the outside and a big beautiful screen in the inside when you need it.
An E-ink smartphone won't be widely popular, but I think E-ink could be used as a secondary display on the back of a regular smartphone to display notifications, which would be like Nothing's Glyph Interface but more useful.
I want a phone like this with a banger camera - the idea being I have a phone that doesn’t encourage me to use it during family time/ work / vacation but can still be used to capture memories.
That actually looks amazing as a secondary phone, eg a work phone! Put away the colourful distractobox during the day yet still have the eInk phone to respond to messages from colleagues or get paged if the system you maintains goes down yet still be able to log into all the systems you need to investigate the problem while you're finding a place to set up your laptop. Even has a camera + headphone jack for Zoom! I wish you'd mentioned the price because if it was low enough to be a secondary work phone, I'd honestly be tempted
Fun fact: that headphone Jack is attached to a real good DAC, something Hisense includes on a lot of their devices. The built-in speaker is also very loud and clear. So listening to music on the A9 is great.
@@gentle285 I had my G7 for almost 6 years now, and I gotta say. The difference is noticeable. Especially with big headphones. ( Also the included in-ear headphones were kind of amazing, I still use them daily and even tho I tried buying new pairs on Amazon nothing really got close to them ). So yeah... I use a Samsung phone now, but whenever I want to listen to music around the house I still use my old G7.
Its a phone. no one gives a crap about the ancient hole or how good sound is because it only needs to be passable. With bt earbuds around nobody wants to be tethered to the phone either. the giant hole in the phone also makes water entry easy.
@@0Everlast0 The water resistant jack is patented and they have to pay royalties and thats transfered to you(which would never be in this "budget" phone). All for an ancient hole, but then again your phone is ancient and so is being tethered to the device with superior and convinient bt earbuds around.
I think thr biggest factor limiting advancement in e-ink screens is the fact that they are patented and solely controlled by a single company (E-ink holdings) with many patents to prevent competition; but then startups and industry can't really play with the screens to make too many improvements, just license them for use.
@@kevboard if its anything like the 3d printing scene every useful advancement has also been patented and we are just waiting for each one to run out every couple years for consumer advancements.
Ah the conundrum of intellectual property...Makes me wonder how someone's sufficiently capable AI would certainly be used to reach concepts up to and beyond human ability, and then lock them down in self-serving patents. That won't end well for anyone involved Edit: changed copywrite to intellectual property for accuracy
i recommend it, partially for using as the main phone (so you use it only when you need it). and having your current phone for particular things (like good camera, watching movies,...)
It would be a great phone for people who work outdoors. Long battery life and a screen that can easily be read in the bright sunlight would be attractive features for some - provided that they don't need a color display.
@@guadalupe8589the old Motorolas were the best for battery life, getting a week out of them was no issue. I had one of the yellow Nextel ones & it could take a Nokia in a fight. Best non-smart phone ever
I want a regular (edit: up to date and from a major manufacturer) smartphone with an e-ink back panel - shopping lists without turning on the phone, yes!
That is one great idea. It should be a new industry standard that every normal smartphone has an e-ink display on the back. You can nevermind it completely until you really need it.
there was one years ago, the Yota Phone 1. Frontside a normal display, backside a e-ink display. Sadly they never updated the models to newer better hardware (frontdisplay and chipsets) versions.
I'm a fan of Google Pixel phones , had a 2 XL for 4 years, now a 6 , I'm planning to keep this one as long as possible too, but if they slap an E ink on the back of the pixel 8 Pro and call it 9 Pro , I'm smashing the piggy bank.
It's $469,99 btw, i think the price is quite interesting for a product like this. And they seem to also be focussing on Hi-Fi, including a pretty nice DAC chip. They also offer E-ink Smartphones starting at around ~$330
@@jozimastar95 you're mossing the point. It's not about being powerful, it's about getting you AWAY from your phone. Also the chip is only slightly slower, it's the eInk screen that makes it sluggish, but that's the whole point of this phone.
@@beardsntools how does it destroy your vision? I'm really curious. It's the same tech as a kindle, which you could argue is actually better for your health compared to conventional displays.
@@livviasong like it is that hard to keep yourself away from your phone when you need to ? Also no way it's slightly slower , it's Hz higher then a9 ram lmao it's at least 100x slower
I'd love an e-ink bicycle gps. Daytime outdoor readability on those things can be a challenge on something that is typically used outdoors during the day.
well, you could already use an garmin instinct 2 to upload GPX track and then get a handlebar bike mount to mount the watch, also garmin has way more advanced metrics :)
To be honest, I find it stupidly easy to stay off "Socials". A> Don't install their power sucking apps (X, and FB.. Discord is really good on low consumption in my experience on my S22 variant) B> Have the phone disable all notifications for an app that may slip through the cracks on the A option C> Stick with Desktops/Laptops because the keyboarding is SOoooo much easier than any version of type-sense or voice recognition D> Don't sign up for socials.
@@Mr76Pontiac A) is all that's needed. Un-installed FB, IG, and X several months ago and it's honestly been amazing. No desire to check my phone every 10 seconds. Not wasting hours scrolling through never ending videos and posts. No reading posts that are full of anger about anything and everything about any topic. Still have YT. And I do watch the shorts. But I used to have 4 apps each with shorts and posts to cycle between. Not the case now. Highly recommend it. Social Media is a disease.
GAAAAAAHHH!!! I just can't get away from that damn Laifen brand! First iJustine does a spot for their discount Dyson Supersonic hairdryer, then Quinn, Linus AND NOW YOU do an ad for their toothbrush which has Apple-like packaging and a charger one pin short of being MagSafe! They just came out of nowhere!
E-ink would be cool as a secondary display on the back of a phone or a folding phone. Would make it super easy to find your phone in the dimly link situations and get important information as a glance - date/time, notifications, etc.
I have been into e-ink devices for a long time now and would LOVE to get my hands on the A9.... it seems amazing. I work in IT and ironically am trying to become as tech-minimal as I can be which is another reason I have been interested in e-ink
And then he mentions how water non-resistant the phone is xD No wonder, the giant hole in the phone makes water entry easy. Also the headphone jack is stupid, it's no longer 2004. With bt around no one wants to be still tethered to the phone.
@@beardsntools and here we can see an example of an apple fanboy among it's natural environment, in clear distress at the idea of apple using an inferior design choice (unfortunately, for apple, it is one of many poor design choices)
@@beardsntools BT sucks the big 111! Anyway, you know there (were) water resistant phones with headphone jacks right? I want options, choice and flexibility. Then again I also want to own my own devices and be able to repair or modify them. There's 2 types of people: Those that modify their devices to fit their needs, and those that modify their needs to fit their devices.
@@DogeFrom2014 >says the guy who still says "ecks dee" in their coments I have no idea what you are talking about, but it's *comments. Well at least you are up to date with these neutral "their, they, them" pronouns, if you aren't with the technology.. Looks like you only accept useless updates, but reject useful ones :D Cope some more.
Definitely hyped for e-ink smartphones, gonna wait 2-3 more years, but I can definitely see myself using one ... probably as a secondary first. A friend of mine had an e-ink flip-phone a few years back as his side phone and I'm still impressed to this day.
I had a Yotaphone 2 several years ago that I enjoyed, the front was a traditional color display and the rear was an E-Ink screen, you could send apps or use the entire phone on the rear E-ink display, I really liked that phone.
When I’m stressed out, I watch jerry. He’s so nostalgic and reminds me of when I was a little kid and used to watch him on my tv. And his voice is so calming. I love your videos Jerry. We all do.
I've been interested in E-Ink for so long and yesterday watched your video about the kindle tablet and surprisingly the next day this one, the phone would definitely help people that want to detox themselves from screen time as you said. Additionally, I'm truly amazed by the refresh rate of this phone; from using Arduino e-ink displays be relatively slow and then this one's gives me hope we may one day have quick and efficient e-ink displays that are even better than traditional lcd displays or that can replace different applications to extend their battery life such as bike's gps, watches and well, phones that may need to refresh very quickly and use less battery. Thank you so much for making these videos, they are very interesting and informative. ❤
Very interested in this actually. I don't game or play videos on my smartphone really...bit of browsing, listening to podcasts, Twitter etc. An e-ink screen would get me into ebooks without having to have a separate device at an extra cost. Will definitely check this out. There are some colour e-ink tablets out there so maybe if that tech improves we could see that on a phone next?
It would be a good phone for kids to make the phone less appealing to sit and scroll on. I honestly don't think kids should have phones until they are in their later teens but I don't have to worry about that for a while.
Hisense also has an E-ink colour smartphone on the market, called the A7 iirc. I'm hoping to see more cell phone manufacturers come out with their own E-ink screens instead of only Hisense, but seeing as how the E-ink company itself is so stingy with their licensing, and is straight-up Disney predatory about their patents, I don't see that happening any time soon. Hisense is gonna be the go-to for E-ink smartphone screens for the foreseeable future, it seems, which is unfortunate since their quality is subpar and their smartphones don't like to play nice with Western data networks.
What would have been a nice thing to try with this phone is if you connected it to android studio and done a screen share, to see what parts of the OS appear in color, or black and white
Actually this is kinda perfect for a secondary phone where i want the battery to last 3 to 4 days. Maybe a compact phone with e ink display is the right way to go
a very interesting phone,the built style is very similar to most android phone in 200-500 dollar range and it's seems like the screen replacement and most components repair will also be done in the same way, although 1 could argue about how impossible it is to find the spare parts
If I can get it cheap, either new or used, I think I will get one. This is perfect for travel/camping/festivals for when I want some smartphone functionality whenever I need it but not have to carry multiple powerbanks on me
@@you-5-iver804 I have solar panels and a solar powerbank. Works great in the summer, but here in North-west Europe, portable solar power isn't reliable outside of the summer months.
I work in a business with field technicians that need mobile devices to complete work orders. If the frame were more durable, this would be an absolute game changer. Easy to read and complete work orders and better battery life.
I really love the idea but I don't think I would enjoy losing color on my smartphone. I love the benefits of E-ink, I only wish that color could be applied somehow. Once that is accomplished I would probably switch over. Awesome review!
Hisense’s A series offers models with color e-ink screens, typically known as the A5/A7/A9 CC. However, aside from the clarity being considered 10 times less than the non-CC models (a necessary trade-off, as you need to divide the total number of available pixels on the screen by three to accommodate the tri-color filters), the colors are also quite dull, resembling the pseudo-color screens of the last century.
I would absolutely love to have e-Ink smartphone, but what hurts it the most is not the screen, its the UI. As long as the UI is centered around swipe, drag and scroll, it will be a disaster to use with any e-Ink display. If, however, they'd manage to rework the interface and make interactions less dependent on gestures and more of a page-to-page experience, that would be a completely different story.
A foldable smartphone with an OLED outer screen and inner big color eInk screen will be quite practical device for folks who love to read while travelling or office commute ..
Funnily enough this video was my introduction to e-ink smartphones. Since I picked up a Hisense A5 CC Pro Color, which is an earlier model with a colour screen and without Google services. This screen trades 25% of brightness for achieving up to 25% colour saturation but still refreshes at a maximum of 15fps. Working around the lack of Google services was a bit of a challenge but also worthwhile as the combination of MicroG and alternative apps works better for me. It's a great phone for me so far that does everything I want, though I do worry about having to replace the battery down the line.
I want an e-ink folding phone/tablet with 2 color screens on the front and rear, and 2 monochromatic screens inside. That way, it can look like whichever book/manga you are reading, complete with the front and rear artwork in color (and you could invert the unit to read colorized spreads as well, then just invert it again when the content goes back to black and white).
It's been a long time since I watched Jerry's video. He has a kid now. Still I enjoy his narration I felt like he is more poetic than before. "Just like a little lego" can not forget this line.
My first phone was a Moto F3c with e-ink segmented display with 2 rows for text with 6 characters on the top row and 7 characters on the bottom row. To make a smartphone less addicting, removing social media applications goes a long way. No need to compromise on the display for the rest of the functions.
I remember some years ago there was a normal phone that had e-ink on the back. The idea was that you could display info on there all the time without using any power like a map or shopping list.
I wish someone would slap this on the back of a phone and make it look good. Imagine having the convenience of an eink screen but still the flexibility of a normal screen. AND you could use the eink as your viewfinder to eliminate the need for front facing cameras and their cutouts
"with pixels perpetually permanently parked at their prior points of photonic perception". This guy is a poet.
No poet needed, there is an app for that...
Precisely
@@MarijnRoorda ChatGPT?
skibidi toilet skibidi skibidi toilet@@MarijnRoorda
@@Shreejansurya98 It's a reference from a movie, V for Vendetta.
The fact that the display was able to play the video at anything close to a watch-able framerate is astounding.
there is color e-ink as well...including color e-ink PC monitors.
And when used with a Pi W they make great photo frames that change them selves.
It will be interesting to see future versions with Color e-Ink screens.
With tablets and laptops getting so well made these days the phone only needs to be dongle so this is probably more useful than we think.
I would have this as a daily and probably find more ways to get the most out of it.
If it was waterproof it would be almost military grade as is.
I have my ebook reader from onyx doing that already 😆
@@maxgood42 Yeah good luck giving all military grade information to the CCP Chinese government
That toothbrush is everywhere. Get away from me toothbrush!
First Lumineux (who sponsored the excellent Inheritance Machining channel), now Laifen for Linus and Zack. All they did is just make me book an earlier appointment with my dentist.
didn't take very long for it to get covered in fingerprints
@@FlyingCIRCU175 my first one was linus😂
tootbrush
That’s how you know it’s probably junk. They dumped insane money into marketing to try and sell the garbage. Air up just finished their trash-tour
An e-ink display is a perfect application for a folding phone. You have a low power draw display on the outside and a big beautiful screen in the inside when you need it.
YES!
this is really cool and i would personally back it, but i don't see high end companies like samsung and oneplus selling something like that sadly
@@Kirkenheimer15it would be so awesome tho
I really appreciate these companies still doing out of the ordinary, innovative stuff.
this company cutted their eink apartment a year ago😭
@@vacancylee8251that's a sad news
8:34 "would you rock an e-ink smartphone when Apple invents it"
😂😂😂😂
Do you think I would daily an E-Ink iPhone? I would never. 1. Too expensive. 2. Not worth it. I'd daily a Nokia 6300.
@@JankPods0201bro, the joke is that Apple makes everything many years after Androids do and they call those things 'revolutionary' 😅
@@Anas-1220 Yeah, like widgets!
@@JankPods0201 ok boomer
never - because of iOS ... i dont feel like jailbreaking a device this expensive.
An E-ink smartphone won't be widely popular, but I think E-ink could be used as a secondary display on the back of a regular smartphone to display notifications, which would be like Nothing's Glyph Interface but more useful.
Agreed. Meizu used to make something like that if I'm not mistaken.
its been done but frankly AOD does the same with little battery usage
@@gastontwo Yeah you are right! Really sad to see that the idea never took off.
YotaPhone has this feature, check it out.
Xiaomi 11 Ultra was a great one
Man that frame scratch always brings me chills on my spine
I just skip through that part 😂
@@fahimir5373 same. I hate it so much.
Yeah, I could swear that sounded like metal, but I had to listen because he claimed it was plastic. Still don't believe him.
Frfr my brain imagines what if he was doing that to my teeth
I bet his viewership would increase if he muted that part and just voiceovered it
I want a phone like this with a banger camera - the idea being I have a phone that doesn’t encourage me to use it during family time/ work / vacation but can still be used to capture memories.
That actually looks amazing as a secondary phone, eg a work phone! Put away the colourful distractobox during the day yet still have the eInk phone to respond to messages from colleagues or get paged if the system you maintains goes down yet still be able to log into all the systems you need to investigate the problem while you're finding a place to set up your laptop. Even has a camera + headphone jack for Zoom! I wish you'd mentioned the price because if it was low enough to be a secondary work phone, I'd honestly be tempted
Fun fact: that headphone Jack is attached to a real good DAC, something Hisense includes on a lot of their devices. The built-in speaker is also very loud and clear. So listening to music on the A9 is great.
@@gentle285 the other only exceptions that come to my mind in terms of high-quality DACs are in LG phones when talking about smartphones.
@@gentle285 I had my G7 for almost 6 years now, and I gotta say. The difference is noticeable. Especially with big headphones. ( Also the included in-ear headphones were kind of amazing, I still use them daily and even tho I tried buying new pairs on Amazon nothing really got close to them ).
So yeah... I use a Samsung phone now, but whenever I want to listen to music around the house I still use my old G7.
Its a phone. no one gives a crap about the ancient hole or how good sound is because it only needs to be passable. With bt earbuds around nobody wants to be tethered to the phone either. the giant hole in the phone also makes water entry easy.
@@beardsntools ??? My LG G7 is ip68 while still having both a headphone jack and a quad DAC
@@0Everlast0 The water resistant jack is patented and they have to pay royalties and thats transfered to you(which would never be in this "budget" phone). All for an ancient hole, but then again your phone is ancient and so is being tethered to the device with superior and convinient bt earbuds around.
I think thr biggest factor limiting advancement in e-ink screens is the fact that they are patented and solely controlled by a single company (E-ink holdings) with many patents to prevent competition; but then startups and industry can't really play with the screens to make too many improvements, just license them for use.
didn't the parent run out recently? or will soon? I think I heard something like that not too long ago
@@kevboard if its anything like the 3d printing scene every useful advancement has also been patented and we are just waiting for each one to run out every couple years for consumer advancements.
Ah the conundrum of intellectual property...Makes me wonder how someone's sufficiently capable AI would certainly be used to reach concepts up to and beyond human ability, and then lock them down in self-serving patents. That won't end well for anyone involved
Edit: changed copywrite to intellectual property for accuracy
@@Retanaru Patents are insane and the team needs to be hugely shortened
@@Learn.DontBeAFool. Copyright and patents are not the same
I'm sold, this would be perfect as either a secondary phone or a work phone.
i recommend it, partially for using as the main phone (so you use it only when you need it). and having your current phone for particular things (like good camera, watching movies,...)
It would be a great phone for people who work outdoors. Long battery life and a screen that can easily be read in the bright sunlight would be attractive features for some - provided that they don't need a color display.
3:53 that yay was so unexpected 💀 i gasped cuz I weared headphones lol
I must have it. The first smartphone release that has made me smile in a long time
It would be great if your looking to increase productivity
I'm tempted to buy one
Yes! I hope my fairphone will worksl for several more years, but when it's done, I will look into an e-ink phone as replacement.
I guess I'm too old to remember the days when any mobile phone used to have a week-long battery life.
or too young
Ahh, I miss my Motorola StarTrac somedays
I'm not.b I also remember when (some) cell phones were built to last.
because you couldn’t do shit on them unlike todays phones where you have a full display going lots of things on it
@@guadalupe8589the old Motorolas were the best for battery life, getting a week out of them was no issue. I had one of the yellow Nextel ones & it could take a Nokia in a fight. Best non-smart phone ever
e-ink is an underrated technology
Not really, it's pretty much only useful for reading.
It's tech that wants to be old. It's only absolutely outdated.
*Underground
Cream guitars is using it for a color changing guitar. Really cool.
@@leonardomatheus1888 And vehicle displays, unobtrusive information stands, hospital records, and everything that deals woth text in open, sunny areas
Even though it hurts every cell in my body to see you destroy the case, I'm so grateful for it! No one shows the durability in their videos these days
arguably the perfect survival phone, photos if you need them while also having a super long battery life, pretty awesome phone honestly
Yup, friend of mine had an e-ink flip-phone developed for alternative markets a while back with 4 weeks of battery life.
I want a regular (edit: up to date and from a major manufacturer) smartphone with an e-ink back panel - shopping lists without turning on the phone, yes!
That is one great idea. It should be a new industry standard that every normal smartphone has an e-ink display on the back. You can nevermind it completely until you really need it.
there was one years ago, the Yota Phone 1. Frontside a normal display, backside a e-ink display. Sadly they never updated the models to newer better hardware (frontdisplay and chipsets) versions.
I'm a fan of Google Pixel phones , had a 2 XL for 4 years, now a 6 , I'm planning to keep this one as long as possible too, but if they slap an E ink on the back of the pixel 8 Pro and call it 9 Pro , I'm smashing the piggy bank.
that already exists, its called yotaphone!
The Hisense A6L is exactly what you are describing
It's $469,99 btw, i think the price is quite interesting for a product like this. And they seem to also be focussing on Hi-Fi, including a pretty nice DAC chip.
They also offer E-ink Smartphones starting at around ~$330
Redmi 11 is 100x powerfull and just 180$ lmao
@@jozimastar95 you're mossing the point. It's not about being powerful, it's about getting you AWAY from your phone. Also the chip is only slightly slower, it's the eInk screen that makes it sluggish, but that's the whole point of this phone.
@@livviasong This doesn't get you away from the phone it only destroys your vision
@@beardsntools how does it destroy your vision? I'm really curious. It's the same tech as a kindle, which you could argue is actually better for your health compared to conventional displays.
@@livviasong like it is that hard to keep yourself away from your phone when you need to ? Also no way it's slightly slower , it's Hz higher then a9 ram lmao it's at least 100x slower
I'd love an e-ink bicycle gps. Daytime outdoor readability on those things can be a challenge on something that is typically used outdoors during the day.
well, you could already use an garmin instinct 2 to upload GPX track and then get a handlebar bike mount to mount the watch, also garmin has way more advanced metrics :)
Get a cheaper one without color screen, but with a mono LCD display. I have a bryton aero 60 and it's perfectly legible in direct summer sunlight.
Yeah, get a Bryton... Or just an old Garmin Edge 500 (what I have). Still works great, though no mapping...
Not to mention once you get the power requirement low enough with e ink you can power it by your pedal strokes
@@wheelsonfire1982 Pedal strokes aren't going to power the GPS though.
Wow I'm tempted to get this. I don't know why, just the grey scale look. I really really like the look of this.
Hisense makes phones?!?!?
Yes, but they're very bad
"...pixels perpetually and permanently parked at their prior point of photonic perception"
Damn Jerry 😅
Alliterative sentence. Nice.
Who is Jerry?
Bro his name isn't jerry 😂
@@stevo2835 Oh I didn't know 😅
well it is and it isnt
E-ink screen AND a headphone jack?!
Take my money!
I actually own one of these phones, they're fascinating, I daily drove it for a bit and it was great for reading and staying off socials.
I'm assuming you are back to lcd/OLED screen phone. If so care to explain why?
To be honest, I find it stupidly easy to stay off "Socials".
A> Don't install their power sucking apps (X, and FB.. Discord is really good on low consumption in my experience on my S22 variant)
B> Have the phone disable all notifications for an app that may slip through the cracks on the A option
C> Stick with Desktops/Laptops because the keyboarding is SOoooo much easier than any version of type-sense or voice recognition
D> Don't sign up for socials.
@@Mr76Pontiac E> Delete social accounts
@@Mr76Pontiac A) is all that's needed. Un-installed FB, IG, and X several months ago and it's honestly been amazing. No desire to check my phone every 10 seconds. Not wasting hours scrolling through never ending videos and posts. No reading posts that are full of anger about anything and everything about any topic. Still have YT. And I do watch the shorts. But I used to have 4 apps each with shorts and posts to cycle between. Not the case now. Highly recommend it. Social Media is a disease.
What is it like in the dark? Is it backlit?
GAAAAAAHHH!!! I just can't get away from that damn Laifen brand! First iJustine does a spot for their discount Dyson Supersonic hairdryer, then Quinn, Linus AND NOW YOU do an ad for their toothbrush which has Apple-like packaging and a charger one pin short of being MagSafe! They just came out of nowhere!
E-ink would be cool as a secondary display on the back of a phone or a folding phone. Would make it super easy to find your phone in the dimly link situations and get important information as a glance - date/time, notifications, etc.
8:35 Nice hidden jab at Apple there….“Would you rock an E-Ink smart phone when apple invents it”
how is that hidden?
We all know that apple will claim they invented it first, were the best at it, and its 10% thinnner than the next e-ink display.
I have been into e-ink devices for a long time now and would LOVE to get my hands on the A9.... it seems amazing. I work in IT and ironically am trying to become as tech-minimal as I can be which is another reason I have been interested in e-ink
yeah i just cant find anywhere to get these here in the uk only ones i can find are insanely expensive
You have to import them. I got one. But the Tmobile 4g band I needed was not on the A9 antennas.
The cheers when he showed the headphone jack!!! Golden!!! 😂😂😂
And then he mentions how water non-resistant the phone is xD No wonder, the giant hole in the phone makes water entry easy. Also the headphone jack is stupid, it's no longer 2004. With bt around no one wants to be still tethered to the phone.
@@beardsntools and here we can see an example of an apple fanboy among it's natural environment, in clear distress at the idea of apple using an inferior design choice (unfortunately, for apple, it is one of many poor design choices)
@@beardsntools BT sucks the big 111! Anyway, you know there (were) water resistant phones with headphone jacks right?
I want options, choice and flexibility. Then again I also want to own my own devices and be able to repair or modify them.
There's 2 types of people: Those that modify their devices to fit their needs, and those that modify their needs to fit their devices.
@@beardsntools > _"the cheer is stupid it's no longer 2004"_
says the guy who still says "ecks dee" in their coments
@@DogeFrom2014 >says the guy who still says "ecks dee" in their coments
I have no idea what you are talking about, but it's *comments. Well at least you are up to date with these neutral "their, they, them" pronouns, if you aren't with the technology.. Looks like you only accept useless updates, but reject useful ones :D
Cope some more.
I think E ink is trying to go back to the past in the Nokia era with polyphonic ringtones
Definitely hyped for e-ink smartphones, gonna wait 2-3 more years, but I can definitely see myself using one ... probably as a secondary first. A friend of mine had an e-ink flip-phone a few years back as his side phone and I'm still impressed to this day.
Yotaphone was a great invention about secondary screen as e-ink. Shame that they couldn't get successful.
> couldn’t successful
what
@@LiuWoodsget
@@LiuWoods my mother language is not English sorry
3:39 Damn! We can actually see the phone in pain with those twitches
I had a Yotaphone 2 several years ago that I enjoyed, the front was a traditional color display and the rear was an E-Ink screen, you could send apps or use the entire phone on the rear E-ink display, I really liked that phone.
I don't really watch videos on my phone so I love this for the battery life and reading
8:35 A nice jab at Apple always welcomed and appreciated.
7:29 Don't lie to me, Zach! That's clearly bubblegum and you know it!
🤣😂😀
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I like how the screen looks like printing error after bending
I’m sick and tired of this toothbrush.
When I’m stressed out, I watch jerry. He’s so nostalgic and reminds me of when I was a little kid and used to watch him on my tv. And his voice is so calming. I love your videos Jerry. We all do.
Oh my god AGAIN THAT FREAKING TOOTH BRUSH
GO OUT OF MY TH-cam
I don’t know what’s going on, they’re sponsoring everybody, they must be paying good
@tdrg_
Paying for each toothbrush sold, so in reality they are paying nothing if they get no sales, that's how they sponsor everyone for free
money laundering
@@Sapphire_Jack idk i doubt they would accept a deal like that
I've been interested in E-Ink for so long and yesterday watched your video about the kindle tablet and surprisingly the next day this one, the phone would definitely help people that want to detox themselves from screen time as you said. Additionally, I'm truly amazed by the refresh rate of this phone; from using Arduino e-ink displays be relatively slow and then this one's gives me hope we may one day have quick and efficient e-ink displays that are even better than traditional lcd displays or that can replace different applications to extend their battery life such as bike's gps, watches and well, phones that may need to refresh very quickly and use less battery. Thank you so much for making these videos, they are very interesting and informative. ❤
But can you match 60hz? Or 120hz for gaming?
@@Volatile_Viking why would you game on eink? these devices are for people that like reading. Not gamers.
6:42 I love that Jerry 🤣🤣
This tech would make awesome dynamic pictures on walls!
Love things like this. Art and Technology.
😂😂 the headphone jack applause though...
Very interested in this actually. I don't game or play videos on my smartphone really...bit of browsing, listening to podcasts, Twitter etc. An e-ink screen would get me into ebooks without having to have a separate device at an extra cost. Will definitely check this out. There are some colour e-ink tablets out there so maybe if that tech improves we could see that on a phone next?
It would be a good phone for kids to make the phone less appealing to sit and scroll on. I honestly don't think kids should have phones until they are in their later teens but I don't have to worry about that for a while.
Hisense also has an E-ink colour smartphone on the market, called the A7 iirc. I'm hoping to see more cell phone manufacturers come out with their own E-ink screens instead of only Hisense, but seeing as how the E-ink company itself is so stingy with their licensing, and is straight-up Disney predatory about their patents, I don't see that happening any time soon. Hisense is gonna be the go-to for E-ink smartphone screens for the foreseeable future, it seems, which is unfortunate since their quality is subpar and their smartphones don't like to play nice with Western data networks.
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This blow my mind I see much potentially with this type of technology thank you Jerry your the best one request keep those rig videos coming
😂😂😂 The cheering for the Headphone Jack was Wholesome 😂😂😂
The Apple burn at the end 😂😂
This video was uploaded 26 seconds ago but I can tell you right now it's amazing. Great video as always Jerry.
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I can’t grasp enough how cool this concept is. Sucks it can’t go that far. Imagine E-Ink gaming! That’d probably start a fire. Lit amirte? 💯💪
depending on the mode you put the a9 in, you can get very good motion out of it. it'll be a bit dim/faded. But it is responsive.
1:25 I can imagine atleast 1 person in world will think phone has some sort of sticker on it and try to rip it off. Ruining the device
What would have been a nice thing to try with this phone is if you connected it to android studio and done a screen share, to see what parts of the OS appear in color, or black and white
THIS IS WHAT I'VE WANTED sice forever
I wasn't sure about anything coming into this video except that it scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7.
I think a longer period of usage review is more informative than destroying the phone at the end.
Plus more respectful
This channel is about testing phone resistance, he's not interested on normal reviews
Actually this is kinda perfect for a secondary phone where i want the battery to last 3 to 4 days.
Maybe a compact phone with e ink display is the right way to go
a very interesting phone,the built style is very similar to most android phone in 200-500 dollar range
and it's seems like the screen replacement and most components repair will also be done in the same way, although 1 could argue about how impossible it is to find the spare parts
If I can get it cheap, either new or used, I think I will get one. This is perfect for travel/camping/festivals for when I want some smartphone functionality whenever I need it but not have to carry multiple powerbanks on me
At that point i'd likely get a solar powerbank
@@you-5-iver804 I have solar panels and a solar powerbank. Works great in the summer, but here in North-west Europe, portable solar power isn't reliable outside of the summer months.
Bro there is ultra power saving mode in every Android phone
@@suleman_shaikh yeah but that is implemented differently across models, and also limits things like receiving notifications
I'd wait till we see phones with color e-ink displays. There's already a tablet model that has one
That's the only phone that can have an always-on-display without compromising battery life.
the camera quality is not bad at all. very nice.
It's definitely bad
@@notquiteordinary thats because youre using your iphone 15 pro ultra max 6g wifi 10. youre biased to that shit.
@@iDiOt5 no, it's just bad.
@@notquiteordinary ok.
I work in a business with field technicians that need mobile devices to complete work orders. If the frame were more durable, this would be an absolute game changer. Easy to read and complete work orders and better battery life.
Just slap a case on there and it's probably durable enough, no?
get a cover bruh. Is it that difficult? And install a protective glass
art with Jerry 4:32
Honestly, I'm quite tempted to get this as a secondary phone
I love the idea of an E-ink phone. I don't do a lot of video on my phone, and having a screen I can actually see outside is a nice plus.
I'm here for the depper grooves 😂
00:00 📱 Watching a video on E-Ink smartphone
00:22 🎁 Unboxing HiSense A9 Pro & unique toothbrush
00:36 🦷 Gold-plating & giveaway of a toothbrush
01:15 🔋 E-Ink smartphone's battery life & screen technology
01:45 📦 Unboxing & first impressions
02:04 📸 E-Ink camera capabilities
02:52 🔄 Dedicated screen refresh button
03:01 🌿 Technology detox with E-Ink display
03:15 🔬 Scratch test on E-Ink display
03:47 🚪 Physical build & ports inspection
04:34 🧠 Social media's impact & minimalism
04:58 🎨 Trying to draw on an E-Ink display
05:25 🔥 Flame test on E-Ink display
05:50 📱 Fingerprint scanner functionality
06:00 💪 Bend test results
06:44 🔩 Internal hardware inspection
07:33 📸 Camera details
07:55 🔋 Battery non-removable disappointment
08:10 💔 Dismantling the E-Ink display
Key Moments by Agent Gold AI
I really love the idea but I don't think I would enjoy losing color on my smartphone. I love the benefits of E-ink, I only wish that color could be applied somehow. Once that is accomplished I would probably switch over. Awesome review!
Hisense’s A series offers models with color e-ink screens, typically known as the A5/A7/A9 CC. However, aside from the clarity being considered 10 times less than the non-CC models (a necessary trade-off, as you need to divide the total number of available pixels on the screen by three to accommodate the tri-color filters), the colors are also quite dull, resembling the pseudo-color screens of the last century.
That was a fun transition from phone to screen.
I would absolutely love to have e-Ink smartphone, but what hurts it the most is not the screen, its the UI. As long as the UI is centered around swipe, drag and scroll, it will be a disaster to use with any e-Ink display. If, however, they'd manage to rework the interface and make interactions less dependent on gestures and more of a page-to-page experience, that would be a completely different story.
If inc display could be put on top of regular one so that it could be used when you don't need anything fancy would be great addition
Or the other way around. A transparent display on top of an e-ink display would be excellent.
A foldable smartphone with an OLED outer screen and inner big color eInk screen will be quite practical device for folks who love to read while travelling or office commute ..
That sharp, flat looking black/white UI gives me Windows 3.11 vibes!
Funnily enough this video was my introduction to e-ink smartphones.
Since I picked up a Hisense A5 CC Pro Color, which is an earlier model with a colour screen and without Google services.
This screen trades 25% of brightness for achieving up to 25% colour saturation but still refreshes at a maximum of 15fps.
Working around the lack of Google services was a bit of a challenge but also worthwhile as the combination of MicroG and alternative apps works better for me.
It's a great phone for me so far that does everything I want, though I do worry about having to replace the battery down the line.
I love these eink phones and wish to see more of them to fight social media addiction.
I want an e-ink folding phone/tablet with 2 color screens on the front and rear, and 2 monochromatic screens inside. That way, it can look like whichever book/manga you are reading, complete with the front and rear artwork in color (and you could invert the unit to read colorized spreads as well, then just invert it again when the content goes back to black and white).
It’s almost like a digital Etch sketch, retaining some of the pixels in the camera like that
I don't want an actual e-ink phone, but I do love the minimalist style of the UI
I would go with one of these, but I'm blown away that it's the same price as some flagship phones. Might get a refurb or used on at $250
Your drawing ability is getting better and better from phone to phone 😍👍
It's been a long time since I watched Jerry's video. He has a kid now. Still I enjoy his narration I felt like he is more poetic than before. "Just like a little lego" can not forget this line.
The fact you can read the screen while it’s in chards is so impressive.
My first phone was a Moto F3c with e-ink segmented display with 2 rows for text with 6 characters on the top row and 7 characters on the bottom row.
To make a smartphone less addicting, removing social media applications goes a long way. No need to compromise on the display for the rest of the functions.
I use an e-ink Android device minus the cellular transmitter as a journal / note-taking device - I love it.
I remember some years ago there was a normal phone that had e-ink on the back. The idea was that you could display info on there all the time without using any power like a map or shopping list.
Llama Llama Red Pajama is one of my kid’s favorite books right now, too. Big hug now!
I'd absolutely love to see a color e-ink phone. The new color screens they have liok great and would be the final step in the e-ink phone category.
I kinda want this phone. I probably wouldn’t use it as a replacement but i think it would be cool
there's something about destruction in general that simply appeals to me.
There is something strangely nice about it. If redesigned with minimal white casing it could be really trendy. But the software would have to hold up.
Great for outdoor apps such as for flying that are viewable in the sunlight - as a pilot I would like this phone just for flying.
I wish someone would slap this on the back of a phone and make it look good. Imagine having the convenience of an eink screen but still the flexibility of a normal screen. AND you could use the eink as your viewfinder to eliminate the need for front facing cameras and their cutouts
The Yay for headphone jack is a keeper soundtrack
The beauty of the BOOX Palma is that it is JUST an e-reader and NOT trying to also be a phone. It's a pocket-sized kindle.
The Pout Pout Fish is where it's at, Zach. Best kids book ever written.
Never expected llama drama in a teardown…