They could make one that decreases pressure pretty easy. One that increases pressure would be interesting. Maybe attaching a CO2 canister to the valve that's electronically controlled
I recently just bought a Canyon Lux and I absolutely love it. Canyon is my favorite bike manufacturer out there and it’s awesome to see you guys go to their home base and check it out!
That is one beautiful bike. I'm not a big fan of the curvy frame tubes that tend to be the norm these days, it's lovely to see a classic looking frame again, especially the way the seat tubes run in the same line as and only slightly offset to the top tube. Great job Canyon, really great. One thing though Doddy. Did nobody say the name Koblenz while you were at the factory? The natural way for a Brit to pronounce it is the way you did, the O being short and the accent being on the B. The O is actually pronounced long and the B is softer. Imagine it being spelt Coe-blenz and you'll get it : ))
Seems like canyon have made some good moves with this iteration of the strive. The fact its 29 only makes a lot of sense too. The last model wasnt particularly agressive in the slackest mode, and it doesn't look like its changed too much. Some might complain because they felt the slacker mode could have been more dh focused and it pedalled decently well even in low setting. However steepening it up cant hurt those who really need to do some long days in the saddle and up climbs. But overall for 2019 it looks promising. Good to see they revised how the shapeshifter works too, cause it was a little clunky for some people from what I know.
I currently ride the 2018 Strive and can not rate it highly enough. I smash out miles of XC stuff, had it on races like Ard Rock and laps of BPW. It does it all. I had a feeling they would go 29er as they are now all the rage although I am little disappointed they did not add a 650b version. For me I like how the smaller wheels handle. Be interesting to see how the 29” wheel version compares to the 27.5” in a back to back timed lap. I do however really like the changes to the shapeshifter. I am yet to have any problems with mine but I have heard lots of stories. The new system looks slightly more intuitive.
Doddy great video and content. You tried to pack quite a bit into the video. However the top end bikes deserve a little bit of separation between the technical and the ride review. Both should be in-depth. My suggestion is to do: 1:) a live technical build of the bike at the factory with you observing and asking the questions from the mechanics. We need to build the mechanics and engineers together they are the ones that truly understand the design principles. As part of the live build with engineers and mechanics You need to ask lots of detailed questions on geometry, suspension, dropper posts, hubs, groupsets, bearings, bottom brackets etc that gives the viewer and purchaser a great overview of the quality and design principles of each component. You could keep the technical build to around 1h30. Many of us buying such expensive bikes deserve lots of details and hopefully it spurs manufacturers to build high quality engineered machines that ride like a dream. 2.) a full outdoor review with trail, race riding and detailed description of how things are working.
Many thanks Doddy! On paper it seems that this bike was designed to go against 2018 Genius. I wonder if it's possible to mount a gopro facing the shocks of the bikes and do an anti-squat experiment( on trail and paved road) demonstrating what happens under pedaling load. A lot of writers and journos get anti squat wrong and always make claims about countering Bob with smoother pedaling technique; They can't grasp the fact that kinematics of the bike don't physical change just because you alter your pedal stroke. The only way you can alter kinematics is by changing sag and or the chainline(gearing). Again thanks for all the great content.
Hey doddy... I'm in the market for a new 29er full sus. And I was really interested in hearing more about the shapeshifter mech. Knowing that it's a fox design I'm sure it will be great. But how did the different psi in the mech. Effect the ride characteristics and is it an active part of the suspension. I.e. does it compress with the shock in down hill mode? Thanks
Well it certainly does look great and the 'Shapeshifter' system seems like a genuinely innovative and functional design, however it's hard to imagine the left hand side of the handlebar with the suspension platform levers, dropper post lever _and_ shock / fork lock-out levers!! ... kudos to them for providing the internal routing option to run a shock lock-out, but I can see the cockpit getting very 'busy' and complicated with all that going on if it were utilised. Perhaps if there was a way to link the shock lock-out with the Shapeshifter system so it all works off the one set of levers, although this would mean it'd be an 'all in' kind of system and wouldn't allow for the versatility of separate platform / shock operations. -- Thoughts?
Nice video and certainly also a very nice bike. I was wandering if you have an opinion about size XL being suitable for me. Canyon claims it might not be the best fit since I’m 2.02 m tall and my inner leg length is about 90 cm. What’s your opinion? Keep up the good work at gmbn. Love your channel
What’s the reasoning for the kink in the seat tube, making the seat angle very slack in the top end? Is there a benefit in the seat moving forward when dropped?
Hey! Why is it, that canyon doesn't answer to support requests via phone or chat? I have a broken shapeshifter 2.0 from a brand new Strive and there are no spare parts available from Canyon. Any ideas?
Hello, I'm thinking of buying the new Canyon Strive. I'm 191 cm tall and I'm not sure which size I should take? I know that Canyon recommends XL from 188cm but I'm afraid it won't be as agil as the L, especially with the long reach and 29er. Would the L be too small for me? What disadvantages are there if I´d buy the L frame? Which size would you recommend? Thank you and all the best, Marcus
Hey doddy, ive got a good question.. Ive got a 2018 strive and have the rockshox monarch plus r on it and want to install a dpx2 upgrade ..do i need to install it upside down?? Luv the show btw!! been here since the begining and really appreciate your input
I’m considering a new bike, i’m 5’9’’ and 180 lbs. I’m leaning toward a 27.5 medium frame. But I like the idea of the larger wheel size of the 29er, but I think this would put the overall size too large. Do you think a 29er with a small frame is the solution? Oh, and it would be an ebike as well. Thanks, Scott.
Hey love the vid got a question for you guys I’m going to the beach and am taking my Bike I was wondering what in can use to stop the drivetrain from going rusty thanksn
Back to the future? Is this a modern answer to the old Scott Genius 50 ( DT Swiss pull shock and dual position Rockshox 120-150 forks ) last model made was 2011 I think. That bike felt like two bikes.
In a nutshell, Spectral: 27.5" wheels, no shapeshifter, trail focused suspension tune Strive: 29" wheels, longer travel forks, enduro/gravity focused tune There's more to the ride than the numbers may suggest.
hi i plan to buy canyon strive cf8 2018 can you tell me is it good and is there some cons on bike, is shapeshifter good . other bike i look is cube 150 2022 whic one you will recomend :D
Good looking bike... I wonder if this is one of those things which performance looks promising on the graphics, boards and computer but very hard to perceive on the trail for the average rider? 😶... I mean, how much faster can you be by adjusting on the go +/-10mm and +/-1.5 degree only? Compared to other components (e.g. stem, fork, rotors, handlebar, headset spacers) it takes a minimum of 20mm variations to start perceiving any difference. Anyhow, it is cool to see manufacturers trying new things.
Bearing in mind that you're meant to climb this in the 75deg setting, that's actually pretty much a standard reference point for Enduro bike design these days! So they've got it right on! Forget to put it in climb and yes, it's slack for climbing. But it's a tool at your disposal, and, with a little time to get used to it, the user will be using shapeshifter just as naturally as a dropper or lockouts!
@@gmbntech I'm aware of that, but the effective (not virtual) seattubeangle seems to be very shallow, which means you'll have a way more shallow virtual angle aswell. The further you have your seatpost extenden out of the frame, the more this comes to play. (which you can see very clearly at doddys bike)
Exactly. The taller you are, the slacker effective angle will be, which makes it pretty bad for taller guys. Plus chainstays length is the same across all sizes and that makes it even worse.
Amazing bike! It would be my next bike after my Scott 940. The only I think Scott is better is the 3 modes driving with Twinlock system and this Canyon has just 2 with Shapeshifter.
Hi, im searching for a bike thats capeable of steep climbs. On my Ghost Tacana i like to climb steep stuff but is it even possible to ride really hard uphill sections with one chainring at the front? An be nice. Im pretty new to the tec stuff. Thanks :)
It doesnt matter how much has or hasn't changed. Gmbn will just say whatever canyon wants them to say cause they get paid good money to do so. I particularly loved the bit about the head angle. It clearly doesn't actually matter much . Whatever gets the bike sold !
We write our own scripts thanks, we never get told to say something in a video branded video so everything you're hearing is Doddy's opinion in the facts that are presented! We're not reviewing the bike here, just giving you the info on it!
Doddy, I put a Cane Creek Double Barrel on my 2019 Strive. Now I cant get it to "click" into the pedal mode. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I need your help!
I don't understand the need for the shapeshifter, I have a 2014 Specialized Enduro with 165mm in the rear, I'm probably never using more than 135mm (probably less) while climbing, even out of the saddle. I don't lock out my shock either. Other than that, this bike looks beautiful!
Bought Canyon Spectral for my wife last year. She is quite happy with it, but Imo cable management (especially in the area of bottom bracket- large cable loops) could be better. Sadly I must say that at the time my wife bought her bike, Canons' customer support was basically non-existent. Good luck reaching them via email or phone. Don't get me wrong here, Canyon is making quite nice and affordable bikes, but if someone want to buy one, should arm her/himself with patience, or at least check some mtb forums for current situation with orders at Canyon.
What do you think of the all new 2019 Strive?
Its nice, i have canyon strive al 5.0 2018 and it is just amazing
Sorry, I got fixated on [kob'lɛːnz] and missed all the rest
Looks like a session.
I want one!
I’m glad Canyon didn’t bow to spec sheet consumers and go mega long, mega low, mega slack.
I'd like automatic tyre pressure changer 23 to 40 psi by pressing XC mode, and GO HOME mode up to 60 psi for road
They could make one that decreases pressure pretty easy. One that increases pressure would be interesting. Maybe attaching a CO2 canister to the valve that's electronically controlled
Yes let's add a compressor to the bike 👍
I recently just bought a Canyon Lux and I absolutely love it. Canyon is my favorite bike manufacturer out there and it’s awesome to see you guys go to their home base and check it out!
I'm not regretting my heavily discounted 2018 Strive purchase.
Nice! Gotta love clearance discounts 👍
hahaha I was just thinking the same, got the al 6.0
@@leevikeranen6435 i didnt got that because i knew theyll release something new si I got the spectral
That is one beautiful bike. I'm not a big fan of the curvy frame tubes that tend to be the norm these days, it's lovely to see a classic looking frame again, especially the way the seat tubes run in the same line as and only slightly offset to the top tube. Great job Canyon, really great.
One thing though Doddy. Did nobody say the name Koblenz while you were at the factory? The natural way for a Brit to pronounce it is the way you did, the O being short and the accent being on the B. The O is actually pronounced long and the B is softer. Imagine it being spelt Coe-blenz and you'll get it : ))
I'm still on the old old 2015 version.
26" ain't dead!
I’m on a 26” 2010 titus ftm carbon
pfff 2004 Karpiel Armageddon rullez!
I set my fastest times at my local trail centre on the original 26in strive.... That was 13 years ago now and the engine was younger but still 😅
It’s finally here. Well worth the wait. So many small but important updates
I love the Sender in the background at 1:14 and the new strive looks like a dream machine
This is a great quality video, this is what I expect from gmbn
Cheers Igor! Great to hear :)
The effects from old frame to new frame were spot on! Nice work. Plus it really gives you a good idea of the differences between the two models.
Rode one at demo day at Duthie bike park recently. It really does feel like a race bike. Solid feel, and fast. Pretty too.
Seems like canyon have made some good moves with this iteration of the strive.
The fact its 29 only makes a lot of sense too. The last model wasnt particularly agressive in the slackest mode, and it doesn't look like its changed too much. Some might complain because they felt the slacker mode could have been more dh focused and it pedalled decently well even in low setting. However steepening it up cant hurt those who really need to do some long days in the saddle and up climbs. But overall for 2019 it looks promising.
Good to see they revised how the shapeshifter works too, cause it was a little clunky for some people from what I know.
Some great points Max!
yes, they should have spread their range more.
Glad I watched this to finally understand what the new shapeshifter does. Put a coil shock on it and I can FINALLY replace my old Giant AC. Brilliant.
I love the top tube and seastay whatever its called being at the same angle
It was really cool to see Doddy out riding.
3:22 Blake in the background hehe
I'm too broke to afford these expensive bikes...
I'm still on a Hard Tail 26" 😆
Same
I was there for awhile too, new bikes will come up if you work hard
How much dolla is this
@@rockefelleragent1357 from 3199 euro
Fairly confident I'll be buying one of these ♥️
Send us a pic when you do!
Brendo Cornell agreed
Did you? If so, are you happy with it. Tried the 2018 AL version and I’m questioning if I should get this one.
I love the fact that they offer financing! I’ll definitely be getting one in the future.
Hey Brendo, hot tall are you and wich size did you get ?
Man what an absolutly beautiful machine. Brilliant craftsmanship
I live in Koblenz and I didn’t knew you guys are here.What about a fan meeting?
Can't wait to get my first full suspenension bike. Gonna take forever to get it. I'm probably getting the kona process 153
Absolutely love it! I love my 2016 strive but it’s time for an upgrade to the big wheels
I currently ride the 2018 Strive and can not rate it highly enough. I smash out miles of XC stuff, had it on races like Ard Rock and laps of BPW. It does it all. I had a feeling they would go 29er as they are now all the rage although I am little disappointed they did not add a 650b version. For me I like how the smaller wheels handle. Be interesting to see how the 29” wheel version compares to the 27.5” in a back to back timed lap. I do however really like the changes to the shapeshifter. I am yet to have any problems with mine but I have heard lots of stories. The new system looks slightly more intuitive.
Doddy great video and content. You tried to pack quite a bit into the video. However the top end bikes deserve a little bit of separation between the technical and the ride review. Both should be in-depth.
My suggestion is to do:
1:) a live technical build of the bike at the factory with you observing and asking the questions from the mechanics. We need to build the mechanics and engineers together they are the ones that truly understand the design principles. As part of the live build with engineers and mechanics You need to ask lots of detailed questions on geometry, suspension, dropper posts, hubs, groupsets, bearings, bottom brackets etc that gives the viewer and purchaser a great overview of the quality and design principles of each component. You could keep the technical build to around 1h30. Many of us buying such expensive bikes deserve lots of details and hopefully it spurs manufacturers to build high quality engineered machines that ride like a dream.
2.) a full outdoor review with trail, race riding and detailed description of how things are working.
"Classic spelling mistake"
I chuckled at that one..
Have to give the package just a 'Nice'. Disappointing to not have an AL option.
Wish you could do a review like this on the Torque.
Wish you did a video like this on the Torque as well. Great video!
I miss that bend on the top tube.
This "shape-shifter" setup seems very interesting - this is a first! I'm wondering how reliable it will be over time though?
Many thanks Doddy! On paper it seems that this bike was designed to go against 2018 Genius. I wonder if it's possible to mount a gopro facing the shocks of the bikes and do an anti-squat experiment( on trail and paved road) demonstrating what happens under pedaling load. A lot of writers and journos get anti squat wrong and always make claims about countering Bob with smoother pedaling technique; They can't grasp the fact that kinematics of the bike don't physical change just because you alter your pedal stroke. The only way you can alter kinematics is by changing sag and or the chainline(gearing). Again thanks for all the great content.
I love Canyon and Trek :)
At first I was confused at why they made the new spectral similar in size to the strive, but now it makes sense!
Odd to see fox and rock shox paired on a factory bike, isnt it?
I Knew it, I knew it was about the new strive, nice video guys, thanks
Awesome bike! I really would love to see a vid like this on the Spectral AL 6.0! Cheers
Such a clean bike them lines are perfect makes me wish i had the money to buy one of these!! Ill just have to stick to my recoil 29er for now.
Hey doddy... I'm in the market for a new 29er full sus. And I was really interested in hearing more about the shapeshifter mech. Knowing that it's a fox design I'm sure it will be great. But how did the different psi in the mech. Effect the ride characteristics and is it an active part of the suspension. I.e. does it compress with the shock in down hill mode? Thanks
Well it certainly does look great and the 'Shapeshifter' system seems like a genuinely innovative and functional design, however it's hard to imagine the left hand side of the handlebar with the suspension platform levers, dropper post lever _and_ shock / fork lock-out levers!! ... kudos to them for providing the internal routing option to run a shock lock-out, but I can see the cockpit getting very 'busy' and complicated with all that going on if it were utilised. Perhaps if there was a way to link the shock lock-out with the Shapeshifter system so it all works off the one set of levers, although this would mean it'd be an 'all in' kind of system and wouldn't allow for the versatility of separate platform / shock operations. -- Thoughts?
Are proficient home mechanics going to be able to maintain the shapesifter system?
excellent as always mate.
4:44 Now the sHApE shifter... 😂
That is such a good bike much better than the old canyon strivdv
Nice video and certainly also a very nice bike. I was wandering if you have an opinion about size XL being suitable for me. Canyon claims it might not be the best fit since I’m 2.02 m tall and my inner leg length is about 90 cm. What’s your opinion?
Keep up the good work at gmbn. Love your channel
As a beginner would I get any benefit from the shapeshifter tech? Can’t decide between the strive cf 7 and the spectral cf 7?
OMG..beautiful bike😍
What’s the reasoning for the kink in the seat tube, making the seat angle very slack in the top end? Is there a benefit in the seat moving forward when dropped?
3:21 you can see Neil in the background on the right
Any idea if the new shapeshifter piston can be retrofitted to the original version of the bike ?
We doubt it....
This would be amazing in texas with all our short punchy climbs and super short enduro lines
How is this canyon's shapeshifter compare to scott's twinloc? Please give opinion....
What size is the bike in Doddy's test ride? How tall is Doddy?
Will the older strives models 2018 and before, be able to install the new shapeshifter system?
Pretty cool how it's a Rock shock rear shock with fox shape shifter????
Is the new shapeshifter compatible with older models of the strive?
can you guys do video on review on multiple bikes that can run 27.5 and 29ers ?
You should do a video on single pivot full Suspension bike like orange four and five VS multi-linkage and fancy full suspension
They can only talk about bikes they are sponsored by.
Hey!
Why is it, that canyon doesn't answer to support requests via phone or chat?
I have a broken shapeshifter 2.0 from a brand new Strive and there are no spare parts available from Canyon.
Any ideas?
You need to tap the frame so we can hear the quality 👌
Can you still replace the shapeshifter cable after it's broken
Grip shift for that Shapeshift system.
Amazing edit!
Hello, I'm thinking of buying the new Canyon Strive. I'm 191 cm tall and I'm not sure which size I should take? I know that Canyon recommends XL from 188cm but I'm afraid it won't be as agil as the L, especially with the long reach and 29er. Would the L be too small for me? What disadvantages are there if I´d buy the L frame? Which size would you recommend? Thank you and all the best, Marcus
The Strive is my dream bike, the only way I can have it is the AL 5.0. Please tell me there will be an alloy version 😖
They added an Inflite AL so they know what bikes we want, bet theyll sell an AL 27" 2020 version.
Hey doddy, ive got a good question..
Ive got a 2018 strive and have the rockshox monarch plus r on it and want to install a dpx2 upgrade ..do i need to install it upside down?? Luv the show btw!! been here since the begining and really appreciate your input
I’m considering a new bike, i’m 5’9’’ and 180 lbs. I’m leaning toward a 27.5 medium frame. But I like the idea of the larger wheel size of the 29er, but I think this would put the overall size too large. Do you think a 29er with a small frame is the solution? Oh, and it would be an ebike as well. Thanks, Scott.
Looks a bit like my Trek fuel ex, the frame shape is very similar, nice looking bike
Hey love the vid got a question for you guys I’m going to the beach and am taking my
Bike I was wondering what in can use to stop the drivetrain from going rusty thanksn
A good clean and re-lubricate every day will do it! But sand kills drivetrains just like sea-water does. Take good care of it!
not sure whether to get the new 6.0 or go with a commencal am 29 sram edition
Back to the future? Is this a modern answer to the old Scott Genius 50 ( DT Swiss pull shock and dual position Rockshox 120-150 forks ) last model made was 2011 I think. That bike felt like two bikes.
I mighta missed in the video, but is it still threaded BB ??
Can you fit angle head set cups on it?
Im actually going on a school trip to London in 4 days im coming to see you guys 😂
pls, pls what is the of the track that starts at 9:00 ?
All the tracks are in the description 👍
@@gmbntech did not see that - thx a lot but the track at 9:00 is not listed. hope to cu in Koblenz in April 13./14. :-)
Definately my next bike!! Does anyone know if the material of the handlebars is carbon?
Can you fit a 230x65 mm Shock on it. And how about coil shocks?
@gMbn what bb is on this bike?
This is XL size tested? What you height?
What’s the difference between the strive and the spectral?
In a nutshell,
Spectral: 27.5" wheels, no shapeshifter, trail focused suspension tune
Strive: 29" wheels, longer travel forks, enduro/gravity focused tune
There's more to the ride than the numbers may suggest.
GMBN Tech 🙌 Thank you
hi i plan to buy canyon strive cf8 2018 can you tell me is it good and is there some cons on bike, is shapeshifter good . other bike i look is cube 150 2022 whic one you will recomend :D
Why does no one ever mention the Neuron? 29" 130mm travel is plenty for any riding I can do locally but hardly any reviews on it.
Good looking bike... I wonder if this is one of those things which performance looks promising on the graphics, boards and computer but very hard to perceive on the trail for the average rider? 😶... I mean, how much faster can you be by adjusting on the go +/-10mm and +/-1.5 degree only? Compared to other components (e.g. stem, fork, rotors, handlebar, headset spacers) it takes a minimum of 20mm variations to start perceiving any difference. Anyhow, it is cool to see manufacturers trying new things.
I love my strive but it’s getting updated to this as soon as they release but I don’t like 150 rear that’s a bit shit
Im my opinion thy screwed it up with the seat angle. Nowadays you shouldn't have to sit that far back on a bike. Even with shapeshift.
Bearing in mind that you're meant to climb this in the 75deg setting, that's actually pretty much a standard reference point for Enduro bike design these days! So they've got it right on! Forget to put it in climb and yes, it's slack for climbing. But it's a tool at your disposal, and, with a little time to get used to it, the user will be using shapeshifter just as naturally as a dropper or lockouts!
@@gmbntech I'm aware of that, but the effective (not virtual) seattubeangle seems to be very shallow, which means you'll have a way more shallow virtual angle aswell. The further you have your seatpost extenden out of the frame, the more this comes to play. (which you can see very clearly at doddys bike)
@@hondacota4rt this guy gets it.... outdated geo.
Exactly. The taller you are, the slacker effective angle will be, which makes it pretty bad for taller guys. Plus chainstays length is the same across all sizes and that makes it even worse.
I believe that’s why we have fore-aft saddle adjustments to give a couple degrees variance for proper fit.
what length does the damper have?
Amazing bike! It would be my next bike after my Scott 940. The only I think Scott is better is the 3 modes driving with Twinlock system and this Canyon has just 2 with Shapeshifter.
how long eye to eye Canyon Strive 2019 rear shock ?
Hi, im searching for a bike thats capeable of steep climbs. On my Ghost Tacana i like to climb steep stuff but is it even possible to ride really hard uphill sections with one chainring at the front? An be nice. Im pretty new to the tec stuff. Thanks :)
Doddy how tall are you ?
what size bike frame is that ?
He's well over 6' and that was an XL.
@@Windband1 AHH 6ft 4 and full of muscle , smiled and gave a VEGEMITE sandwich
Excellent
It doesnt matter how much has or hasn't changed. Gmbn will just say whatever canyon wants them to say cause they get paid good money to do so. I particularly loved the bit about the head angle. It clearly doesn't actually matter much . Whatever gets the bike sold !
We write our own scripts thanks, we never get told to say something in a video branded video so everything you're hearing is Doddy's opinion in the facts that are presented! We're not reviewing the bike here, just giving you the info on it!
Just think if a company devised a fork to change travel with a switch. Head angle would change drastically.
Doddy,
I put a Cane Creek Double Barrel on my 2019 Strive. Now I cant get it to "click" into the pedal mode. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I need your help!
what offset fork does the new strive run 51mm or 44mm?
44mm
I don't understand the need for the shapeshifter, I have a 2014 Specialized Enduro with 165mm in the rear, I'm probably never using more than 135mm (probably less) while climbing, even out of the saddle. I don't lock out my shock either. Other than that, this bike looks beautiful!
I'd like to see an aggressive hardtail from canyon
Take my money now please 😍😍
WOW 😲
Bought Canyon Spectral for my wife last year. She is quite happy with it, but Imo cable management (especially in the area of bottom bracket- large cable loops) could be better. Sadly I must say that at the time my wife bought her bike, Canons' customer support was basically non-existent. Good luck reaching them via email or phone. Don't get me wrong here, Canyon is making quite nice and affordable bikes, but if someone want to buy one, should arm her/himself with patience, or at least check some mtb forums for current situation with orders at Canyon.
I like it it's badass
Seat tube angle from last year.