The worst thing about this isn't the flight performance, the missiles, the BR, or the ground loadout options - it's the stupid Temu jokes I swear. Under every video you find one of the usual suspects copypasting that thing for the n-th time.
The majority of warthunder players are unaware that Grumman was involved in the aerodynamic design of the JF-17 prototype, and that the JF-17 was initially planned to use the F404 engine. The JF-17 is also the first military aircraft in aviation history to use a DSI (Diverterless Supersonic Inlet).
@@prmoh1027 They don't care. They see Chinese and hence it's either copied, stolen, "Temu", or not equivalent to [insert Western plane]. Or all of the above. I hate this Nato Thunder Mentality.
@@Spicysauced As a aviation enthusiast, I really dislike some War Thunder players bring too much political bias into the game rather than appreciating aircraft purely from the perspective of aerospace engineering. Additionally, many people overlook the fact that different countries have different defense needs when simply comparing aircraft performance, so the design objectives were different from the start.
Honestly same with the HMDs on the Soviet jets the 2 dots dont give much situational awareness. For example when I'm in a f16,f15, and gripen I know that if I have someone on my radar I can just look in the general direction and instantly see where they this allows for like quicker decision making whilst other jets I gotta move my HUD around everywhere to get situational awareness.
Can you create a guide to air sim battles e.g. settings for HOTAS, what to do. It would be incredibly useful for people who are new to air sim like me.
Honestly your best bet is to join the sim discords from all the sim TH-camrs, tons of resources and helpful people in there who can help with opinions, guides and setting up controls.
Speaking of lack of engine power 2:20, jf17 doesn't have correct thrust values. i've put it in bug report that its short 1200 engine thrust, just shy of 1800 for afterburner, and supposed to have 300m/s climb rate
did you account for ground, installation, channel loss and speed variables for the configurations on your bug report? if you didn’t that means it will be thrown out because they probably already did their own math
@@jaek__this is the one most stupid lie about migs engines. Bruh, people should really learn that gaijin will ruin any soviet vehicle if needed, when there are different numbers in different sikrit dokumints. Remember situation with type 90, after which they removed fixed "historical" numbers and calculated all those penetrations with the formula. They wanted soviet tech tree to be ruined so they did it and found a very very stronk argument which is wrong Funny that you have mig 29 with 20 degrees/second sistained turn lol, this is s t u p i d
@@ДонныйАдмирал the mig 29s engines in WTRTI are around 100kn each at max thrust and optimal ranges, i believe the jf is in a similar ballpark, this is pretty strong for such light planes lol, you guys complain sm about your tree getting nerfed when you have no idea what you’re talking about. you’re the exact same as f15a players saying it’s missing like 40 kN of thrust when the plane was pushing like 130 kN each at mach. the thrust in the hangar is not indicative of actual thrust
@@jaek__ check out my bug report "JF17 pilot view too low/incorrect stats). This is accurate real values from multiple sources. Its also been 5 days with it open, my first report wasn't done properly so it was closed. My second is plenty valid
You germany players cry so much about the ICE What BR do you want it at ? 12.7 ? It was always going to be a rather bad plane that was going to ne impossible to balance but you coped into thinking it would be great
😂😂😂 oh crap you died....... once. I do agree with you though on the more maps there's so many good maps for the other modes but the modes to me aren't worth playing
@@mikeyplayzwrld Its called acceleration, so any change of speed is "pulling Gs". Change of direction is not the same thing as acceleration but it is heavy influenced by it.
@@mikeyplayzwrld All i wanted to say is that you cant pull more g and lose less speed because those two things are the same. Its like saying that i am walking faster and slower at the same time. G means earth acceleration whitch is close to 9.3m/s^ so if you are expiriencing 4G it means that your speed is changing by 37,2m/s each second. Sorry for my english, not my native language. I hope that you understad nów what i meant.
Oh nice, my F-18 from temu arrived.
Haaiiiiii CPU
@@Yokochan84 hello there
its more like a temu f16
The worst thing about this isn't the flight performance, the missiles, the BR, or the ground loadout options - it's the stupid Temu jokes I swear.
Under every video you find one of the usual suspects copypasting that thing for the n-th time.
The majority of warthunder players are unaware that Grumman was involved in the aerodynamic design of the JF-17 prototype, and that the JF-17 was initially planned to use the F404 engine. The JF-17 is also the first military aircraft in aviation history to use a DSI (Diverterless Supersonic Inlet).
@@prmoh1027 They don't care. They see Chinese and hence it's either copied, stolen, "Temu", or not equivalent to [insert Western plane].
Or all of the above.
I hate this Nato Thunder Mentality.
Yeah it's really getting old
@@Spicysauced As a aviation enthusiast, I really dislike some War Thunder players bring too much political bias into the game rather than appreciating aircraft purely from the perspective of aerospace engineering. Additionally, many people overlook the fact that different countries have different defense needs when simply comparing aircraft performance, so the design objectives were different from the start.
When is Gaijin gonna fix the HUD on the J10 and Jeff. It's god awful lol.
this is so many planes in war thunder. I've made a detailed bug report on jf17, so hopefully everything gets fixed
@@tylertheguy4749 get me link
Honestly same with the HMDs on the Soviet jets the 2 dots dont give much situational awareness.
For example when I'm in a f16,f15, and gripen I know that if I have someone on my radar I can just look in the general direction and instantly see where they this allows for like quicker decision making whilst other jets I gotta move my HUD around everywhere to get situational awareness.
j10 needs a hms
they fixed it in the latest update :) it now has a radar tracking marker on the HUD
jeff is a MINOR he should NOT be on DATING APPS 😡😡😡😡😡
Real
Can you create a guide to air sim battles e.g. settings for HOTAS, what to do. It would be incredibly useful for people who are new to air sim like me.
Honestly your best bet is to join the sim discords from all the sim TH-camrs, tons of resources and helpful people in there who can help with opinions, guides and setting up controls.
Speaking of lack of engine power 2:20, jf17 doesn't have correct thrust values. i've put it in bug report that its short 1200 engine thrust, just shy of 1800 for afterburner, and supposed to have 300m/s climb rate
did you account for ground, installation, channel loss and speed variables for the configurations on your bug report? if you didn’t that means it will be thrown out because they probably already did their own math
@@jaek__this is the one most stupid lie about migs engines. Bruh, people should really learn that gaijin will ruin any soviet vehicle if needed, when there are different numbers in different sikrit dokumints. Remember situation with type 90, after which they removed fixed "historical" numbers and calculated all those penetrations with the formula.
They wanted soviet tech tree to be ruined so they did it and found a very very stronk argument which is wrong
Funny that you have mig 29 with 20 degrees/second sistained turn lol, this is s t u p i d
@@ДонныйАдмирал the mig 29s engines in WTRTI are around 100kn each at max thrust and optimal ranges, i believe the jf is in a similar ballpark, this is pretty strong for such light planes lol, you guys complain sm about your tree getting nerfed when you have no idea what you’re talking about. you’re the exact same as f15a players saying it’s missing like 40 kN of thrust when the plane was pushing like 130 kN each at mach. the thrust in the hangar is not indicative of actual thrust
@@ДонныйАдмирал and thrust figures from wikipedia are also either wrong or out of context
@@jaek__ check out my bug report "JF17 pilot view too low/incorrect stats). This is accurate real values from multiple sources. Its also been 5 days with it open, my first report wasn't done properly so it was closed. My second is plenty valid
Finally Sim content of the jf as im planning of buying it im glad someone made an quality sim vid ab how it performs there thank you so much🙏👍
it is very fun, i'll probably roll out into some sim after this video
F-16 and F-18 had their baby, the JF-17, it happened to come from a temu factory in china. and it got shipped to pakistan.
Hey that tracker on hud does not work for me for PL missles, I need to press ESC button everytime and only after that it shows up
what head tracking do you use? trackIR?
Any tips of tornado F3? Just got it, looks like a good missile bus with fancy avionic
I gotta learn how to use PGMs, even at top tier EC when I do ground pounding it's still dumb bombs on mini-bases
My fave new jet
@Nimbal, how is your HUD so high? mine is way lower than your jf17?
He moved his camera up, his HUD follows
@@specc_s1452thank you, i have since figured out how to do this
Why would anyone pay for a plane that is not a premium?
people have been GE-ing squadron vehicles since at least the swiss hunter. The f2p frustration gameplay loop makes monkeys out of many
@@Hadgerz Dang, imagine wasting money on a plane that doesnt even gives you bonuses
def deserved same br as the ice LUL
Makes no difference since 13.3 is never at the top of a bracket and it will only ever fight against 13.7’s. It’s the same as 13.7 in every way.
You germany players cry so much about the ICE
What BR do you want it at ? 12.7 ?
It was always going to be a rather bad plane that was going to ne impossible to balance but you coped into thinking it would be great
@@bigmemer4398 I mean, I have a 3-1 k/d with it and enjoy it even if it sucks.
The hell is that thumbnail
Only 200k for 22 kills common gaijin lol
😂😂😂 oh crap you died....... once. I do agree with you though on the more maps there's so many good maps for the other modes but the modes to me aren't worth playing
Typical American players in the chat (I am one)
1:03 But pulling G and losing speed is exactly the same thing.
Just because it’s not flashing in red across your screen doesn’t mean you aren’t pulling Gs
@@mikeyplayzwrld What?
@@Jakub_Marcinkowski The slightest shift in direction is pulling Gs. If you tap the elevator up once you just pulled Gs
@@mikeyplayzwrld Its called acceleration, so any change of speed is "pulling Gs". Change of direction is not the same thing as acceleration but it is heavy influenced by it.
@@mikeyplayzwrld All i wanted to say is that you cant pull more g and lose less speed because those two things are the same. Its like saying that i am walking faster and slower at the same time. G means earth acceleration whitch is close to 9.3m/s^ so if you are expiriencing 4G it means that your speed is changing by 37,2m/s each second. Sorry for my english, not my native language. I hope that you understad nów what i meant.