NaVi Da - Metal fume fever does not come from simply heating galvanized steel. It is from completely burning the zinc galvanization only achieved at high temperatures where zinc melts and vaporizes. Will not happen in this set up with water.
To all those worried about heating up the galv it can only get as hot as the water so perfectly safe and very enjoyable on a starry night i have an old cast iron bath on my farm and i love it .
Reminds me of a diy hot tub that I saw when I was looking for housing in ithaca/Watkins circa maybe 2007/8. It was at a sweet little cottage that if memory serves was above buttermilk falls and back a bit
Used it for a winter or two and then now it is used in the garden for holding water and so I'm not sure if there is a good long-term test here, but it doesn't seem to leak at all
How about a more secure and stable support system especially with fire underneath? In addition, how about setting it up to heat with two small fires instead of one big fire? In addition, how about a "brew mode" consisting of a really small fire to maintain the water temperature while you sit in it?
+Nathan King All good suggestions and concepts... The beauty of this format is for folks to share what they are trying and for others to build on it. I'd encourage you to try out your ideas and let us know how it works for ya!
Thank you. My reason for being interested in your hot tub project is because I have wondered what it would be like to try that sort of thing myself, but I am not in a position where I can try out many of my ideas since I am on a low income and do not own my own property. People may question the safety of your experiments, but your hot tub experiment is the kind of thing I would have already tried myself I had been able to. I think that your hot tub experiment is the kind of thing that can be done safely under the right conditions. That was why I did not knock you as being unsafe, but instead approached you in the air of "how about this" or "how about that." I have many ideas about unconventional ways of doing things.
Super cool! a lid would help the tank heat faster/more efficiently, no? Could be as simple as a few pieces of lumber over the top. I may try this on a smaller scale for my daughter to have a nice outdoor bath in cooler weather. If it works I could pretty it up with a nice sturdy cob base. Right now I can lay the hose in the sun and get HOT water quickly.
Good idea on the lid. That would definitely help. A cob base would be nicer looking and make it muuuch more efficient. I think its a worthwhile experiment all the way around.
This has been my dream for so long! I want to find a double walled tub - my family in Germany has a "hot tub" that can seat 15 people made out of an old cheese vat! This is great! I've been wanting to set up a canning vat made of a metal drum over a fire and now I know I can just have two sized hot tubs. One for parties and the other for canning/epic baths for my partner and I. I love making bath teas. Have you two tried using Blue Vervain? It's muscle relaxant properties make it absolutely sublime. I'll have to try horsetail!
What’s the weight load tolerances on that tank? Seems like it could break or tip. Resulting in bad cuts from the broken sheet metal and dumping you into the fire. Maybe a Metal reinforced grid style platform?
I love this! I've been a subscriber of yours for a little while now and I had to tell you I really like your ideas, keep us posted and how are the Stopharias on the compost pile doing? BTW you really deserve more views!
My curiosity is peaked how you make biochar from this? You have two metal pipes, one for the heat/exhaust to travel through and the other to stack the wood inside of for pyrolisis? I like the idea of making biochar and having a rocketstove fired hot tub at the same time, seems the best use of stacking functions... maybe make a smoker happen off of it somehow as well haha!!!
I like the smoker idea, although, would we be smoking... US?!? It makes biochar, but poorly, using the 'cone pit method' I have other videos on this topic that go way deeper, you can check them out. Thats the principle on how it's made in this setup.
Did anything happen to the Oval Galvanized Stock Tank after having a fire under it ?? Leaks ? Seams open ? If you have the time please answer because I am looking to purchase one ... Thank U.
I have no leaks or broken seams, so it seems! :) Yeah, with all the water it handles the direct heat very nicely. We haven't used it this year, so I will see, but so far I'd say I'm sticking with this being a reasonable idea.
RLZerr The bottom is real hot right where the fire touches, but its felt reasonable to be in it with the fire going. Normally we get it real hot first, let it die out for the most part and then go in...
So I was thinking of doing something similar. But I was going to heat it with propane. How many problems have you had with heating the steel did it make it so that it would corrode. Also how many times have you used it since the video. Thanks!
We retired this system after a while since we didn't use it that often (maybe 5-10 times, although it worked great every time.) Is there a reason you wouldn't want to use firewood?
The reason I wouldn't want to use firewood is because I go camping in Colorado and was going to use it to Camp. Quite often when I go camping there is fire bans so the only fire that you can use is propane. I even have a propane fire pit so that I can enjoy a fire when the fire bans are on. Thank you very much for the reply
Makes me think of a cartoon of bugs bunny and the natives making rabbit stew.
NaVi Da - Metal fume fever does not come from simply heating galvanized steel. It is from completely burning the zinc galvanization only achieved at high temperatures where zinc melts and vaporizes. Will not happen in this set up with water.
This episode just gave me some ideas on what kind of layout I want my acreage to be like.... this is going to be exciting!!! Cheers!!!
To all those worried about heating up the galv it can only get as hot as the water so perfectly safe and very enjoyable on a starry night i have an old cast iron bath on my farm and i love it .
That's not entirely true. There's a heat gradient from the fire side to the water side.
Reminds me of a diy hot tub that I saw when I was looking for housing in ithaca/Watkins circa maybe 2007/8. It was at a sweet little cottage that if memory serves was above buttermilk falls and back a bit
I hear you tripping on those "beer bottles" ... 🤣
How long have you had it? Did it eventually mess up the metal?
Used it for a winter or two and then now it is used in the garden for holding water and so I'm not sure if there is a good long-term test here, but it doesn't seem to leak at all
How about a more secure and stable support system especially with fire underneath? In addition, how about setting it up to heat with two small fires instead of one big fire? In addition, how about a "brew mode" consisting of a really small fire to maintain the water temperature while you sit in it?
+Nathan King All good suggestions and concepts... The beauty of this format is for folks to share what they are trying and for others to build on it. I'd encourage you to try out your ideas and let us know how it works for ya!
Thank you. My reason for being interested in your hot tub project is because I have wondered what it would be like to try that sort of thing myself, but I am not in a position where I can try out many of my ideas since I am on a low income and do not own my own property. People may question the safety of your experiments, but your hot tub experiment is the kind of thing I would have already tried myself I had been able to. I think that your hot tub experiment is the kind of thing that can be done safely under the right conditions. That was why I did not knock you as being unsafe, but instead approached you in the air of "how about this" or "how about that." I have many ideas about unconventional ways of doing things.
Super cool! a lid would help the tank heat faster/more efficiently, no? Could be as simple as a few pieces of lumber over the top. I may try this on a smaller scale for my daughter to have a nice outdoor bath in cooler weather. If it works I could pretty it up with a nice sturdy cob base. Right now I can lay the hose in the sun and get HOT water quickly.
Good idea on the lid. That would definitely help. A cob base would be nicer looking and make it muuuch more efficient. I think its a worthwhile experiment all the way around.
I had this idea come to me and haven't seen it online thay I remember. Does it damage the metal too bad for long term use?
I can't say for long term/aggressive use, but I can say the tank still holds water now :)
Do you have a mat or liner in there? I would think it might burn?
We had some blocks of wood
This has been my dream for so long! I want to find a double walled tub - my family in Germany has a "hot tub" that can seat 15 people made out of an old cheese vat! This is great! I've been wanting to set up a canning vat made of a metal drum over a fire and now I know I can just have two sized hot tubs. One for parties and the other for canning/epic baths for my partner and I. I love making bath teas. Have you two tried using Blue Vervain? It's muscle relaxant properties make it absolutely sublime. I'll have to try horsetail!
What’s the weight load tolerances on that tank? Seems like it could break or tip. Resulting in bad cuts from the broken sheet metal and dumping you into the fire. Maybe a Metal reinforced grid style platform?
Good point. We never had a problem but definitely something to consider!
I love this! I've been a subscriber of yours for a little while now and I had to tell you I really like your ideas, keep us posted and how are the Stopharias on the compost pile doing? BTW you really deserve more views!
My curiosity is peaked how you make biochar from this? You have two metal pipes, one for the heat/exhaust to travel through and the other to stack the wood inside of for pyrolisis? I like the idea of making biochar and having a rocketstove fired hot tub at the same time, seems the best use of stacking functions... maybe make a smoker happen off of it somehow as well haha!!!
I like the smoker idea, although, would we be smoking... US?!?
It makes biochar, but poorly, using the 'cone pit method' I have other videos on this topic that go way deeper, you can check them out. Thats the principle on how it's made in this setup.
Its a good thing to keep in mind, I wonder what black locust smoked bylaw enforcement officers taste like...
Josh Teasdale what do you mean by that?
@@supertrooper7403 t'was a jest, a joke
I think I have a good question lol. How do you drain the old water out?
Very good question! There is actually a valve on the bottom of this you can attach a hose to when you want to drain it.
hi how can I seal a steel tub like that one mine is more for dried foods but I want to use it for boiling Skulls thanks
easier to heat a smaller amount of water and add water to cool iit to temp. Than brig a full tub to heat.
Probably
@@edibleacres just my experience filling a wood fired hot tub for more than 15 years.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!
I hope you build something you love!
Did anything happen to the Oval Galvanized Stock Tank after having a fire under it ??
Leaks ? Seams open ?
If you have the time please answer because I am looking to purchase one ... Thank U.
I have no leaks or broken seams, so it seems! :) Yeah, with all the water it handles the direct heat very nicely. We haven't used it this year, so I will see, but so far I'd say I'm sticking with this being a reasonable idea.
OK ...I just looked at one at tractor supply store and it has a seem welded on the side center. Thank you for your time.
nice big drain valve would solve your quenching problem... LOL
What kind of metal tank are you using?
2'x2'x6' galvanized water tank.
EdibleAcres is it really a bad idea to burn Galvanized Metal?
this does not look safe or do you let the fire go out before getting in?
RLZerr The bottom is real hot right where the fire touches, but its felt reasonable to be in it with the fire going. Normally we get it real hot first, let it die out for the most part and then go in...
So I was thinking of doing something similar. But I was going to heat it with propane. How many problems have you had with heating the steel did it make it so that it would corrode. Also how many times have you used it since the video. Thanks!
We retired this system after a while since we didn't use it that often (maybe 5-10 times, although it worked great every time.)
Is there a reason you wouldn't want to use firewood?
The reason I wouldn't want to use firewood is because I go camping in Colorado and was going to use it to Camp. Quite often when I go camping there is fire bans so the only fire that you can use is propane. I even have a propane fire pit so that I can enjoy a fire when the fire bans are on. Thank you very much for the reply
Galvanized fumes can harm ya as well.