The Mythical River of Dagenham - the Gores Brook (4K)
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- An East London walk along the Gores Brook from Parsloes Park to the River Thames near Barking Riverside. Thanks to my supporters on Patreon / johnrogers
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More info about the project to de-culvert / daylight the Gores Brook in Parsloes Park:
Thames 21 Gores Brook Living Landscapes
'In the 1930s, the stretch of the Gores Brook which flowed through Parsloes Park was channelled through a pipe and buried.'
www.thames21.org.uk/improving...
Story Map
storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/...
Our walk starts in Parsloes Park in the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (nearest tube: Becontree / Dagenham Heathway). We walk the buried section of the Gores Brook. There are plans to daylight the brook from its culvert, a project by Thames 21 with the support of the Mayor of London. We then follow the Gores Brook above ground as it flows through Goresbrook Park, across Ripple Road, and past Dagenham Asda where the 145 bus terminates. Our riparian adventure then plunges us into a post-industrial landscape created by the ghost of the Ford Motor Works at Dagenham as we walk along Chequers Road, crossing Dagenham Dock Station and passing beneath the A13 road. Turning into Choats Road we once again meet the Gores Brook and follow footpath 47 to the point where the Gores Brook makes its confluence with the Thames at Horse Shoe Corner.
Massive thanks to Claire Keay / Sherbert Lane for creating the brilliant 'Wherever that may be' mug / sherbetlane
Maps:
1968 OS Map 'Reproduced with the permission of the National Library of Scotland' maps.nls.uk/index.html
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Downstreams - Roots and Recognition
Elusive Dream - At The End Of Times, Nothing
Hush Creek - Cora Zea
Into the Forest - Jakob Ahlbom
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Marvellous John,
I lived in Dagenham from birth until I was 21 years of age. My grandparents lived in the slums in Hackney, and were offered a house in Dagenham in 1924. My mother was born there. both my parents worked for Fords. My mother had given Vallance House lots of stories about growing up and living in Dagenham, and as my mother has passed away I must go and add to the her stories.
In these trying times your walks are balm to the soul 🙏
I echo that. If you are feeling a bit low a viewing of one of John Roger’s walk will soon brighten your day. Thank you John.
Exactly
May I echo Sean's words. Fantastic way to start the day. John you have the knack of talking to 1000s, but make it personal to each and everyone of your viewers
Many thanks indeed
John…you Gem…my home town Dagenham, iam going to grab a beer and savour this one ..all the way from Australia.
Another great walk John, Thank you. You took me back 40 years when you hit Chequers Lane. There used to be a pub at the top by Dagenham Motors. The Chequers. I used to meet my friend there after his shift at the factory.
Love love love your channel.
There’s some nice walks just to your right between Rainham and Bulphan. It’s hard to believe you basically still in London when surrounded by Rapeseed or sunflowers.
Keep walking, I’m there with you.
What a way to start the day. Beautiful scenery down by the river there. Wonderful on a blustery evening, walking with a storm lamp. Great.
So glad you enjoyed it Sean - thanks
So glad you enjoyed it Sean - thanks
@@JohnRogersWalks Hi John, when at Brightlingsea, don't forget to use the Passenger Ferry taking you across to Point Clear, accessed onto the sandbank spit in the Creek.
Your walks are like a soothing therapy session. Thanks for taking us along.
Many thanks for that
My Great Grandparents were tenant farmers at Great Porters Farm which backed onto Parsloes House (in Parsloes Park). Both house and farm were pulled down to make way for the estate.
My Great aunt would watch the ‘trotters’ in the Parsloes House grounds.
Streams at Porters look to have fed the Gores Brook
'Made the traditional votive offering to the river gods'. Ha ha. Brilliant. Thanks for another wonderful walk John.
thanks Tam
What a big sky there is there. And so many unknown paths . That is an astounding plan to unearth a river. Great walk . will be happy to see the mug
I lived at 99 Third Avenue Dagenham, from age 5 to 13 and attended Beam CP and Marley Secondary which I believe is long gone. We moved to Benfleet. I think you were possibly on the old Dagenham Dock Road at one point. I had a bike and travelled far and wide. Very nostalgic videos to say I couldn’t wait to escape!
I moved to Leigh on Sea....from Romford!
Hey John just did this walk this afternoon. Got the 145 from Leytonstone to Asda them followed your video to footpath 47 and down to the Thames. Know one day soon this entire landscape will change again and thank you for being a witness to these times and inspiring us all on these urban pilgrimages.
Can you do more walks around Barking and Dagenham? This is a interesting Borough.
John , you just stepped on my secret place ( Thames bank by the newly build Barking riverside) where I quietly even without knowing myself frequently end up for my soul's vitality. I strongly believe if you do a small walk from the park by the Thames by Woolwich ferry walk up to campus of the University of East London then walk along the waterside till Excel Emirates then after left turning go and pass the road to get into newly build area called Royal Wharf and walk by the Thames again and explore beautiful site of the Thames Barrier Park. I wish to be your guest in this area. Thank you very much.
I am so grateful for your videos. I am, at present, writing the story of a cunning hags journey, in mid 1800s from Essex to the Isle of dogs, in search of her husband, stolen by means of siren song from Yarmouth. There's not an awful lot to go on but I think Gores Brook would be a natural path to follow to The Thames 🙏 Thank you so much.
Sounds like a fantastic story Rachel
Goresbrook Cricket Club was formed in 1981 by school friends who used to enjoy a knockabout in Goresbrook Park. At the time there was already a Dagenham Cricket Club so the name Goresbrook was chosen and from these humble beginnings the club has progressed through much, largely unsung, hard work to have three teams in the highest Essex League. The club is now based at May and Baker in Dagenham East.
One more river that can partially be explored in Dagenham is the Wantz.
Spent half of my childhood behind Barking Power Station throwing stones at bottles floating in the Thames. The other half was spent collecting them.
Great vid' John.
The best thing about the river walk videos is they often take us along the path less travelled, but these places all have a magic of their own.
I was born and brought up in the next Borough!! The London Borough of Havering ❤️ Spent some great times in Dagenham though....My nan & Grandad lived there before I was born after the war and Worked for May & Bakers
Ah, industrial Dagenham. Budget Bladerunner. Thanks for showing us the beauty in unlikely places John
As always, another interesting walk. I grew up around Parsloes park playing ball as wee child, and following your walk all the memories came flooding back, maybe tears and water being closely connected. A great end to the walk was the river arriving at the Thames. An area I will revisit at some point. Love your videos.
I'm 300 miles away now and haven't been home since 2014 so thanks John for all these trips down memory lane
Bless you Brother for providing such a lovely distraction .Life is but a dream
Footpath 47 was a great bonus leading to a dramatic vista of the Thames.
NB: @16:40 Chequers Lane East Side land is currently owned by the City of London corporation and destined to be the future home of the Smithfield, Spitalfields and Billingsgate markets.
Great vid,
i live on Parsloes park - whenever there's heavy rainfall the river rises up!
Excellent. I will visit the Thames end of this walk at some point this week. Years ago I got access via the Barking Riverside side before the Riverside side🤕 begun building. It will add another section of 'The Thames Graffiti Wall' to the Thurrock to Barking route. Now we need to open up public access from Barking Creek to Gallions Reach to fully connect to London. Great stuff. Thanks.
Lovely John , Dagenham River walk , how magical , and wonderful to see the confluence with the Thames at the end , how transformed the whole area is since I knew it in the sixties and seventies , you couldn't get near the shore for the giant ford factories and power station , railway yards and the docks , my uncles and grandfather worked there , boring mindless repetitive work but well paid and my uncle got a ford Anglia at discount , also lots of strikes , will be great to see the Gorse Brook fully revealed , so much history , thank you for revealing the stories , all the best John , see you later ❤️🌈👍
Wow what a beautiful Riverside walk I always enjoy your walks but this is my best beautiful
Hi John , love watching your videos :)
I live in Dartford so if you do Darenth walk love to walk with you maybe and share it with you..
Its a lovely long walk :)
Very interesting walk, thank you John. It will be good for all that wildlife when they give nature back to its original way of flowing. 💕🇦🇺
Another enjoyable video John, thanks. Should get some pint glasses to match the mugs, 😁😁.
i actually found jules walks before your channel but i have to say as much as I am a big fan of jules i find myself watching your videos a lot more john, cheers
Great walk and talk! Like the mug design
Thanks John
To echo your words, Thankyou so much for that video, John. Before the war , my mum and her parents lived on the Becontree estate
For a (relatively) short walk what a range of landscape / environments you passed through. The closing images of sunset over the river were simply stunning. They would make a superb image over on your Instagram page. PS here's another vote for the mug logo
Can't wait for the barking riverside video
Thanks for creating such a positive and enjoyable video about Dagenham, John. I lived in Barking & Dagenham for the first 41 years of my life until I moved to New Zealand in 2012 and have only been back once since then (in 2016). It was so great seeing all the sights in your footage, be they old familiar ones or the new ones featuring the urban developments that have happened in the last decade or so. Keep up the good work, and please make further visits to B&D in future! All the best...
Excellent walk John! And I'm thrilled to see a design for the coffee mug! Cheers from USA!!
What a great walk. Really curious that the only bit culverted is the bit where it first rises in a park, given that so many other bits passing through both residential and industrial areas have been left open. Glad to hear it'll soon be daylighted. May the gods of the totemic Asda trolley smile upon it!
Great Video , John. I grew up just the other side of Parsloes Park and went to school at the then Dagenham County High who’s claim to fame was the late, great Dudley Moore. Now it makes sense why the park used to flood in winter by Ivyhouse Road. Back in the 1970s, Parsloes Park was home to Pink Flamingoes - featured on Robert Elm’s notes and queries.
Looking forward to the Mug.
My friend had two labs that absolutely loved it when it flooded, couldn't keep them out of it ! lol
Seeing the outlet into the Thames brought back tearful memories of rural/industrial land of my childhood in Higham Marsh, and my gran's place on Foulness Island. Last year we stopped off for fish & Chips near Heathrow. I was delighted when The Park on the map turned out to be a LORRY park. My family couldn't understand my nostalgia at touring industrial units, but changed their mind when we found a moonlit overgrown picnic area between two housing estates!
Your hidden river walks are so fascinating. And what a magnificent end shot !
Thanks Marty
Thanks John, I was down today but this has brought another smile and your passion when you walk and describe where you are somehow is very lifting! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wasn't "The River of Dagenham" , a Boney M song ???? ..... Another great video !
Haha
Wow what a walk my home i used to live on hedgemans rd so this one was super special i would always take my dogs on the walk to Gores Brook park thank you John. And the mug looks great i must say the john on the mug looks a bit to old for yourself :)
Wow I lived on hedgemans too and this was a super walk its small world
@@chrispointer123 Wow thats Mad it is a small world
I used to live off Goresbrook Road in the 1970s, where it flowed through Goresbrook Park and down to the A13. Everyone called it "the ditch". It was full of shopping trolleys and the usual detritus.
Once again I find you in the unfamiliar in amongst the familiar. I have rarely ventured to the river in this part of London so your walks to the confluences are a joy.
Beautiful landscape and Gores Brook has many historical sights.Holy sacred river tell us many story of past by you..🙂🙌🙏💥💝✍💝💯💢🤳🙋🏻♀️👩💻🚶♀️.Nice walk
Many thanks Shipra
@@JohnRogersWalks Thanks 😊 sir ✍🙏🚶♀️👩💻💢💥💯🤳🙏🙂🙋🏻♀️
👍🏾🤠 even on a Monday!!!
Cheers Brandon
Wow, that takes me back seeing my old school the football pitches I played on and my Grandparents house in the background I’ve spent many many moments of my life in Parsloes Park as well as Mayesbrook Park as I was lucky enough to live between the two of them, and as much as I knew about both of the brooks, I didn’t know it was filled in in Parsloes Park, and the works to bring it back to the surface again, it amazes me how you can live in an area for over 30 years of your life and yet still not know everything there is to know about it, absolutely cracking vlog I loved it, these lost river videos are epic, Keep em coming please John.
Hi John,another nice walk, but once again I’m left with that eternal question of how does that trolley get across rough grass land and into the river knowing that most trolleys can’t manage to negotiate a shop aisle,I would have definitely pulled that ruddy thing out in a fit of rage before it becomes a permanent dam. Thanks for a fine walk.Mike.
Thank you for the lovely video! It’s quite surreal we have just got home from exploring the same area of Parsloes park after reading about the brook and the redevelopment plans. Was just googling more about it’s history when we discovered this video which to our surprise was uploaded only a few hours ago!
We live not 5 minutes away and every week walk around Parsloes or Goresbrook park as well as the Old Dagenham Park and the larger Beam Parklands.
We have always wondered if it is possible to follow the brook all the way down through the industrial areas, so it was quite fantastic to actually see the Thames at the end. I always forget how close we really are to it. We definitely plan to take the same route for one of our future walks!
Thanks for this! Looking forward to the potential future Brightlingsea video, I used to have relatives that lived there when I was a child.
Amazing walk, love these rambles. Thanks, John!!!!
Gorgeous views... I do love learning about the history of places and seeing these waterways and the surrounding environments.
A lovely way to pass the time, thank you John.
hi john, i used to play over here as a child, great memories. you would here sky larks all day. thanks.
I remember them clearly! The would nest on the ground in the long grass not far from Gale Street!
@@jasonantigua6825 yes thats right mate. thanks.
@@johncarter-ut1ii 👍 Where did you go to school?
@@jasonantigua6825 gilbert miles, now called mayfield.
@@johncarter-ut1ii Oh,I never knew it was called that before Mayfield! I went to Erkenwald
For once I'm awake when a John video gets posted. This one is as fresh as tomorrow and most welcome.
Fabulous, my wife lived in Dagenham, brought back some old memories.
Keep it up.
Great that you got right to the Thames. Love the mug design 👌 😍
Great mystical walk today! I so look forward to your walks every Sunday.
Loved this walk John!
Thanks Alison
Love watching your walks. I live at islington and you showed me places that I did not know about.i recommended your walks to everyone.very intresting
John!!! I have seen the hidden river in batterseapark today. It flows in the lake. AND the one between pimlico and chelsea. And the little one you can see from the other side of the river. At vauxhall there is a nice information board that explains about the origens of it's name and the offerings people made to the river. And much more. This has nothing to do with this film I know. Just to let you know that I do remember what you tell us and it is so wonderful to be here in person. Someone gave me a piece of a clay pipe he just found in the mud.
quite a few mudlarkers up and down the thames.
@@highpath4776 yes! I couldn't find a way down so he threw the pipe up. Itvwas a great catch😀.
Wow, you walked this on the 1st and had it up on the 2nd! With all the captions and everything. Nice.
Yet again great vid John, it's like I was there with you, please allow me to say your delivery and screen persona reminds me of how Jack Hargreaves would talk to his audience making the viewer think you are talking to them and only them, excellent work John well done mate keep em coming.
Dave in Thailand.
Thank you so much for this.
Love the mug !
Love the. Info john
Love watching your walks .Especially in this area .I was brought up opposite the Main gates of Maesbrook park
great stuff JR
What a wonderful walk. The autumn light over the Thames was very special. Thanks
Thank you for posting! I always look forward to them. 😊
I think the edge lands are so fascinating because of the endless battle between the concrete and nature.
An interesting walk, thanks for showing 👏👏👏
Not meaning to sound morbid, but when you pop your clogs and go on that great eternal walk (in many years time, hopfully). You should have your catchphrase put on your headstom/plaque. Spike Milligan had the words "I told you I was ill" put on the back of his gravestone - LOL
Brilliant walk, and lovely mug design!
Great as always John, thanks again for your efforts, so interesting
The moment I heard, "Dagenham", I immediately thought of the film, "Made in Dagenham" with the beautiful Sally Hawkins in the lead role. She made a film in my home province of Nova Scotia, Canada called, "Maudie". You must see it. It's a beautiful film. While I am no city slicker and prefer the bucolic way of life, I admit you make a visit to London very tempting. I love English history. Your narration makes it seem as if I'm walking alongside. Cheers once again friend from Canada!
William
Oh Wow! I love your river walks.
Great walk. Great looking mugs. I look forward to getting rid of some old mugs to make way for those.
Fabulous video.
A lovely peaceful walk. Thank you John. 👍
Great video love the mug !
Thanks for video John!!
Cheers Tom
Another great walk. Thanks for sharing.
This is an absolute joy thanks John. I'm enjoying learning and loving more about London than I'd ever imagined possible. Cheers.
Very enjoyable video John m
You need to visit Liverpool we have wonderful parks and Green spaces.Beautiful Liverpool.❤❤❤❤❤❤
This was very atmospheric, thank you!
Another great walk, John. We love a magical, mystical confluence.
Really enjoyed this walk John. I need to explore further afield in East London.
Here it is! Looks like it's gonna be well worth the wait, and it turns out to be an old stomping ground of mine. Diving in! Thanks John.
Hope you enjoyed it Steve
@@JohnRogersWalks It's rather spooky. In the shot where you say "Down through that housing estate" I had a pivotal part of my life in those flats. I also want to say, that your editing skills are remarkable John, you have a lightness of touch, and how you assemble the video, your commentary and the music is truly wonderful. Evocative I think is the right word.
Thanks John amazing as always mate
Thanks Barry
"... to super strength lager and paracetamol.." A John Rogers classic line, this. I agree totally about the mystical quality of lost or hidden rivers, and the confluence of tributaries and thier mother stream. When people are alive to the evidence of watercourses, such as declivities or dry valleys in urban and suburban areas it adds SUCH a HUGELY mysterious and exciting dimension to thier walks. I have always been fascinated by this, since childhood. The train companies' loss is our gain here, I could not think of a better accompaniment than a John Rogers River Walks vid to my post work paracetamol and Carlsberg Special Brew (other painkillers and super strength lagers are available, at Londis (other shops are available)). The mug is very nice. My congratulations to the artisan who designed this. A truly delightful video as ever. I'm quite sure you're aware of just how much people appreciate your work John. Nice one. Cheers! ⭐⭐👍
A wonderful conclusion shots 👌 👏 🙂 thank you John 😊
Thanks for another cracking vlog defo love the mug. Design
Thank you John for yet another brilliant walk. I look forward to seeing you on the next one, wherever that may be.....
Nice peaceful ending to the walk John 👍🏻
I love your Lost River walks, and wow what a glorious conclusion to this one! Can't wait to buy a mug, too ;-)