What Is The Best Yugioh Deck Historically?

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  • Justin attempts to answer the question what is the best yugioh deck in context of their time in the spotlight.
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  • @MonkeyFightTCG
    @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I Know

    • @Honest-King
      @Honest-King ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The 4 allure of darkness?

    • @honu_of_Tarlach
      @honu_of_Tarlach ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tear ishizu is easily the best deck in history. What you are actually asking is which tier 0 deck dominated their specific format

    • @djsedam123
      @djsedam123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Magic had something like that happen called Combo Winter. Early game was the die roll, midgame was the mulls, late game was turn 1

    • @mwael3600
      @mwael3600 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@honu_of_Tarlach
      Remove the banlist on each old deck to make it as strong as its prime time, make 2 AI duel against each other best of 9 not 3, the best is the one doing the best in its prime form
      Ishizu has the highest probability on paper but we need them in practical, Artifact scythe in HAT format can make it knightmare for Ishizu to win

    • @noodletornado309
      @noodletornado309 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mwael3600AI isn’t smart enough

  • @rocapbg9518
    @rocapbg9518 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    I think Zoodiac had a 100% top cut representation at one point. Though those were all different decks using the Zoodiac engine.

    • @The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinx
      @The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinx ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Zoodiac while dominant for a short time. It was quickly out of the spotlight. Its by far from the best drck ever.

    • @kaydll
      @kaydll ปีที่แล้ว +103

      ​@@The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinxZoodiac is the literal longest dominator in yugioh history with an entire year being about them what are you saying

    • @ricmord1881
      @ricmord1881 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@kaydllI mean in ocg right now tear has Been meta for over a year

    • @EizaYgo
      @EizaYgo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Na
      Zoo time was also master peace time, abc and pendulum

    • @kaydll
      @kaydll ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ricmord1881 meta, not absolute best Deck no contest like Zodiac prenerf

  • @googleisacruelmistress1910
    @googleisacruelmistress1910 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Ahh, remember when Stardust Dragon was considered a boss monster?
    Good times...

    • @sinfulmatrix543
      @sinfulmatrix543 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Merely😆 then again I flat out skipped 5Ds😅

    • @edgardiaz690
      @edgardiaz690 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sinfulmatrix543it was good. I think the early XYZ era was the best.

    • @alanschroeder
      @alanschroeder ปีที่แล้ว +7

      when i played my old dragunity variant stardust saved my ass more times then i can count

    • @strawberrysherbet96
      @strawberrysherbet96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Still pretty good tbh can protect decks that lockdown opponents

    • @YeahTheDuckweed
      @YeahTheDuckweed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edgardiaz690 yeah there was a point in time when decks were playing generic synchros and generic xyz like stardust and utopia at the same time just because there was nothing else to play and it was really cute
      there was another point in time when this was true. like, last year i think. lol. so like 10 years between stardust/utopia and baronne/zeus or ty-phon or some shit iirc

  • @stephen4006
    @stephen4006 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Another way to look at it is longevity. Decks like Mermail, Fire Fist, and Tri Brigade were on the edge of meta relevance for years after their prime, which is very impressive.
    In terms of raw power though Tear takes it home

    • @stanleynente7924
      @stanleynente7924 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I mean for longevity it's sky strikers. TOSS alone is almost a year. Then it's always between rouge and tier 3 until now and after the banlist some people say it's could be around the level of post banlist purrley.

    • @mrjghostbell3807
      @mrjghostbell3807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is if talking bout non ftks tho several decks destroy tear tbh

    • @Psyckonautic
      @Psyckonautic ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It’s easily burning abyss if we’re talking longevity, the most recent top that mattered was an Australian national in 2020, BA came out in 2014, that’s SIX YEARS

    • @mrjghostbell3807
      @mrjghostbell3807 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Psyckonautic nah 80% of BAs tops were not BA they Were PKFire which were Phantom Knight with BA support so PK carried them far.

    • @Psyckonautic
      @Psyckonautic ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this is definitely not true, a lot of ba tops were pkfire for sure, but ba has had other variants that have topped much more recent than pkfire, like danger BA, block dragon BA and a pure sekka's light version, the deck was helped by phantom nights but was never the reason it was good for over half a decade
      supposed to be a reply to @ArchfiendJ

  • @nathanwaterser8218
    @nathanwaterser8218 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    If I'm not mistaken Zoodiac had a tournament where 100% of players were using Zoodiac (with variants like Kaiju Zoodiac but all Zoodiac at the end of the day)

    • @TwoToneShoes
      @TwoToneShoes ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kind of but some of those decks would literally just be like 3 rat 1 whiptail 3 barrage. It's like saying every deck was sky striker when people were splashing engages.

    • @nathanwaterser8218
      @nathanwaterser8218 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TwoToneShoes But you still have to run the Zoodiac XYZ so I think you could count it more.
      Specially because they still play like Zoodiac
      Unlike Sky Engine which barely played like Pure Sky Striker

    • @TwoToneShoes
      @TwoToneShoes ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nathanwaterser8218 You still had to run Kagari, too. The Zoo engine had a lot more ED requirements but it's the same general premise. Zoodiac is amazingly splashable but wasn't tier 0 as a solo strategy like Spyral or Pepe.

    • @liammcphelin4775
      @liammcphelin4775 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TwoToneShoessure but that wasn’t really happening even when it saw the most play it wasn’t a core part of the deck usually just a way to summon 2 mons for mermaid with no normal and even then didn’t have nearly 100% representation. That being said I do think striker deserves a spot in the conversation by having the most ycs wins/tops and the longevity it has but kinda falls short in never being a tier 0 deck. Zoo on the other hand 100% was tier 0 and then also had another format years later where it was once again the best deck

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TwoToneShoesZoo was so dominant that IT was the Deck Core. The Other Part was the engine. And Draco Zoo was the best.

  • @lamarlatimore7802
    @lamarlatimore7802 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The non banned tournament in Japan had multiple Zoodiac and Tear 0 Ishizu for the top spots. Even with Multiple FTKs They were still the best deck.

    • @maxmucci3170
      @maxmucci3170 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tbf, FTKs are not that impressive at this point of the game, with hand traps in the discussion

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@maxmucci3170the Problem still IS that this ftks are so fcking consistent that handtraps doesnt Help If you dont have 3 in starting hand. I remember a Match against rescue Cat ftk, in the Tournament WE Play with pre Errata cards, where i got Ash and droll and couldnt Stop him

    • @maxmucci3170
      @maxmucci3170 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NNRedemption it's not that different from an unbreakable board of negates. "Oh but blowouts" yeah that can still get negated by any non-monster or even monsters if it's not No More. I see your point btw. Also Pre-errata format is completely different (ergo: more degen) than Unlimited.

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maxmucci3170 Most unlimited tournaments Play with pre errata

    • @princesscrystal6410
      @princesscrystal6410 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was China. And secondly, Zodiac wasn't in the top 8.

  • @UncleJrueForTue
    @UncleJrueForTue ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like the idea behind playing 4 Allure of Darkness. Increasing your odds of opening it by 10% really helps over the course of a tournament.

  • @ExclusivePokeLife
    @ExclusivePokeLife ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Pepe literally took 30 out of the top 32 spots in the atlanta ycs and had a emergency ban list like a week after release which hit 90% of the engine so pepe definitely needs to be on the list also full power Adamancipator

    • @nnnp634
      @nnnp634 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Full power Adamancipator is nowhere near best decks

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Zoo had 32 of 32 in pittsburg

    • @traplover6357
      @traplover6357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nnnp634there was no YCSes during COVID so no one would know

    • @nnnp634
      @nnnp634 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@traplover6357 There were plenty of online tournaments, LCS, some Remote Duel Extravaganzas and similar. Some of these tournaments were played by highest caliber of players as well, and even had 1000 participants. I wouldn't call them as prestigious as YCS, but they some seem bigger than Regionals.
      Apart from earliest small tournaments, Adamancipator was always more-less equal to Eldlich and when Dragon Link got new support they had even less representations. Also not a single LCS won is pretty crazy. That might have been the best deck, but it was nowhere near tier 0 status.
      While the deck could afford a hand-trap and/or a board breaker here and there and had a good native going 2nd options it was often not enough to stop other decks which could make equally crazy boards with Halq of their own. Even if it was a better deck than Eldlich, DLink and especially Infernobleknights it could always lose to them as well so it is nowhere near being the most dominant deck of all time.
      As for being the strongest deck of all time, most newer deck would have no issue with it and IshTear obliterates it.

    • @YeahTheDuckweed
      @YeahTheDuckweed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@traplover6357 even if there were, i could've sworn covid format was split between adamancipator and eldlich

  • @jeffmtz2491
    @jeffmtz2491 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Also tears got so many things banned and they still see play.
    A video about which extra deck mechanic with more formats could be fun.

  • @lamarlatimore7802
    @lamarlatimore7802 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Gladiator Beast winning 13 Straight Events
    Zoodiac being able to go in a tribrage from Boar and still can go full zoo for no normal summon would be stupid.

  • @vampman87
    @vampman87 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I give my vote to the first incarnation of Chaos decks. If you have to make a ban list specifically to get rid of two specific cards, then that means those cards are the GOAT. Sure, they're both obsolete NOW, but anyone who knows the game knows how absolutely evil Chaos Emperor Dragon and Yata Garasou were in their heyday.

    • @virust5941
      @virust5941 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yata garasu would be a card that gets old and it did
      But chaos emperor?
      Nah bro deserves his name 💀

    • @kookou13
      @kookou13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pre errata chaos emperor would 100% still see play espically with how searchable it is.

    • @FormerRuling
      @FormerRuling ปีที่แล้ว

      I was an "old school" player, and its hard to imagine anything modern really upheaving the game in the same way Chaos did. Imagine a tcg meta where *every single viable deck* ran the same core. The chaos core was just too good if you could justify having even 1 light and 1 dark monster in your deck you ran it.

    • @rekora1045
      @rekora1045 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FormerRulingI won a regional back in the early 2000's. I was the first person in my region to win undefeated after goat control was banned. I remember that, and when Blackwing, teledad, and lightsworn were the big 3, Yugioh was at it's peak. Id give anything to go back.

  • @juliankirby9880
    @juliankirby9880 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a person who started playing yugioh when teledad was new and relevant. I played it. I can truly confirm that it was top deck, cheese to victory. Literally, a person could run tele monarch, and still wreck the other competitive decks consistently. Then the black wings came out, and it was even faster and more consistent.

  • @lordpepper6932
    @lordpepper6932 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Creating a format where you either go first or dont play the game"
    Oh you mean Yugioh for years now

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol no

    • @thecomradewarda
      @thecomradewarda 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That just wrong like a duel can last 7 turn or even higher most of mine last 5 .

    • @lordpepper6932
      @lordpepper6932 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@thecomradewarda in Yugioh, if a game lasts more than 3 turns, something went wrong or your deck sucks, It's unfortunately true about the card game nowadays where you can play 50 cards in 1 turn

    • @thecomradewarda
      @thecomradewarda 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lordpepper6932 that just wrong and also like I’m on master duel in diamond and I use sword soul and have had 20 turn duels with other competitive deck and have one many of them .

    • @lordpepper6932
      @lordpepper6932 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @thecomradewarda your just lying to yourself, this game hasn't been fun to play for years, Turns take 20 real life minutes PER TURN and unless you play master dual you gotta constantly shuffle, (also btw im also Diamond in Master dual, it's fucking easy, and I play fucking Amazons) If a game goes past turn 5 it means someone got negate fucked and noone can do anything and then your on Draw

  • @ZaneTruesdale007
    @ZaneTruesdale007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Teledad was awesome when i was playing. Loved lightsworns as well.

  • @toomuchsauce3389
    @toomuchsauce3389 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ishizu Tearlaments in it’s prime was OP and would beat any other top meta deck in yugioh history

    • @xmangle5382
      @xmangle5382 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think either True Draco or Zoodiac would fold Tear if all fought at full power

    • @tommibrandi4824
      @tommibrandi4824 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@xmangle5382haha nice joke

    • @xmangle5382
      @xmangle5382 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommibrandi4824 Have u ever seen a match between them?

    • @whateverdot
      @whateverdot ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The most mordern deck would usually be better

    • @ExoflareKng
      @ExoflareKng ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@xmangle5382we have seen a tournament without banlist in ocg, tear was killing them all

  • @baritonetenor
    @baritonetenor ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Pepe is so goated

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That deck is surprisingly still decent in modern yugioh.

    • @baritonetenor
      @baritonetenor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MonkeyFightTCG the extra deck space would be so tight but the extensions would be crazy. Have you ever seen the crazy Pepe flowchart?

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I have, funnily enough it should be in my pepe short

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MonkeyFightTCGwithout the pendelum Nerf IT would be the Most broken dexk

  • @sakulhd8189
    @sakulhd8189 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dragon Rulers and Spellbook are also hot contenders imo, they only don't fit the bill because of existed at the same time

    • @mooncalf_4534
      @mooncalf_4534 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FR Dragon Rulers were making modern-style boards of 5 boss monsters every turn with almost perfect consistency. Like actually much more consistent at making full boards than most modern decks due to the amount of negation/counter tools you can brick on in modern decks.
      It just lacks the counterplays and negation of modern play. The only reason it wasn't a giga tier 0 format was because Spellbooks were already busted, and had a card that read "choose 5 cards in your deck, draw them for free" to make them better. And even then, plus the fact they were basically a counter-dragon ruler deck, they were still worse. Dragon Rulers were TURBOBUSTED.

    • @theburden9920
      @theburden9920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mooncalf_4534 ah yes the super rejuv draw 10 cards at the end of the turn

  • @specialsomeones
    @specialsomeones ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The commentary on the pod save clip is top notch. Excited for the video so I can share it!

  • @damionvoorhees149
    @damionvoorhees149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There wasn't many official tournaments back then so you can't find statistics on it, but pre ban list aka traditional format chaos decks with both chaos emperor dragon and BLS with witch and sangan with yata garasu, full pot of green, graceful charity, painful choice, mirage of nightmare, harpies feather duster ect deck was hands down the best deck ever in yugioh. If you didn't play chaos, you could not compete. Period. And it ruled formats for years to come after the fact of the ban list as well in watered down versions. That is the reason why some cards have yet to ever become unbanned since the start of the banlist.

  • @kevinfrench9753
    @kevinfrench9753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man, remember 30-card Fusion Decks?

  • @abysslight2490
    @abysslight2490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know Tidal was in the video but I’m surprised Dragon Rulers didn’t get a mention. Has any other archetype had all of its members totally banned at one point? Also back in the day Rank 7 was ridiculous and got way too much support.

  • @sailornibiru626
    @sailornibiru626 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    obligatory pendulum LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pepe was close to being included in this list. but between time constraints of youtube shorts and pepe's win percentages just being a little lower, forced it out of the video.

    • @fabrizioorpianesi6670
      @fabrizioorpianesi6670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@MonkeyFightTCG a shame. Pepe was the very deck that brough us the first EMERGENCY ban list, which is honestly just a wild feat

    • @ExclusivePokeLife
      @ExclusivePokeLife ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MonkeyFightTCG you mean taking 30 out 32 spots at a ycs wasn’t enough to make the list? also having a emergency ban list a week after release hitting every card in the deck?… i guess taking 93% of the meta isn’t enough

    • @BLSoldier00
      @BLSoldier00 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@fabrizioorpianesi6670Thete have been two emergency ban lists prior to PePe's takeover. One was to ban Cyber Stein in December 2006 shortly after a Cyber Stein OTK handily won a Shonen Jump Championship. Another was to kill Dark Armed Dragon Return decks in May 2008 (the strongest, most overpowered deck at that time) by banning Dimension Fusion, limiting Return from the Different Dimension, and semi-limiting Allure of Darkness. This irked some players as DAD was still unlimited.

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MonkeyFightTCGwrong. The First emergency bannlist was in 2008 we're WE lost Dimension Fusion. And WE Had an unofficial bannlist were makyura came to US and was banned without a bannlist

  • @orchidquack
    @orchidquack ปีที่แล้ว +5

    adamancipator didn't get events, but definitely deserves a mention

    • @tylord96
      @tylord96 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly no other deck on this list was near its power level it unfortunately came out at a time where there were no events taking place and got quickly slapped by the ban list

  • @WesleyParksTTV
    @WesleyParksTTV ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blind 2nd Spyral winning a YCS is what got me back into competitive

  • @shanegurney8951
    @shanegurney8951 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone else notice that in the tele dad list there are 4 copies of allure of darkness

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the engagement bait is working lmao

  • @Shirou_Atsuya_Fubuki
    @Shirou_Atsuya_Fubuki ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Full power isuzu can eat ALL of the previous deck, because is the only deck that can play on your opponent’s turn

    • @kaydll
      @kaydll ปีที่แล้ว

      Full power adamanzipator is by a long shot the best deck of all time, not tear ishizu

    • @bhvnshunteredits
      @bhvnshunteredits ปีที่แล้ว

      Tear simp and a dum one

  • @pokclaymonmaster5286
    @pokclaymonmaster5286 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could argue between Zoodiac and Dragon Rulers. When both were at full power either deck was a nightmare to face

  • @djkenway4871
    @djkenway4871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tbh if dragon rulers were at full power today with the modern cards it be a scary deck but tbh I think spyral was a very scary deck back then along with zoo

    • @thomash8513
      @thomash8513 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it’d be bricky asf at best pure rulers is like ariseheart pass and still wouldn’t be as kash

  • @jcw034
    @jcw034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old school chaos will always be my favorite with Yata lock and delinquent duo forceful sentry and confiscation crushing decks. I also maintain that if this was pre errata those cards in the chaos deck still beat any modern deck

    • @EflowNivek
      @EflowNivek ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah Old School Yugioh was too slow with too few GY effects to really hold up to today

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well pre errata cards couldn't be responded to due to old card speed rules

  • @justanaverageyoutubeaccoun342
    @justanaverageyoutubeaccoun342 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember first getting into competitive yugioh during zoodiac format. I cannot understate how much of a menace they were in thier prime.

  • @juliorebelo124
    @juliorebelo124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn Tele-Dad with the 4 allures, the deck really was built different

  • @blazesaber1383
    @blazesaber1383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best deck in history is what ever deck yugi has at the time. Some say it has every card known to man and he just draws the cards he needs to win every time

  • @wesbridges1037
    @wesbridges1037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think if zoodiac got completely unrestricted again and zeus came off ban they would be overwhelming even now. Zoodiac synergy with tri-brigade opens up even more shenanigans.

  • @aVo_001
    @aVo_001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still have nightmares from the Dragon Ruler era.

    • @jk844100
      @jk844100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragon Ruler wasn’t that bad of a format, it certainly was a tier 0 format at least.

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jk844100IT wasnt BC of judgement. IT was a 2 deck format

    • @jk844100
      @jk844100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NNRedemption I meant “wasn’t”

  • @NosstheBoss
    @NosstheBoss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OG Red-Eyes Fusion Turbo. Never failed me.
    Surprised its still consistent.
    So back in like what 2004.
    It was mostly three ofs but your targets were tweo of the easiest fusion monsters to summon outside of the strongest fusion B.U.D. -- Meteor B. Dragon and B. Skull Dragon complete with a hand ful of walls and traps and lets say a few Equip spells for the other beat stick monsters we had in there.

  • @mwael3600
    @mwael3600 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think HAT format was the peak of yu gi oh because simply there was a massive diversity of what you can play, you can play fusion xyz synchro, also the meta deck of that format was named HAT (handtraps artifact traptrix) which was a good deck buy if you played skillfully enough with decks like Constellar Geargia or any other deck you can win with skills, probably the best format in my opinion, this video didn't show that period when HAT format was available due to the diversity of what players choose

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this wasn't about what format was the best to play. this video was about what the strongest deck was at their respective times.

    • @mwael3600
      @mwael3600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MonkeyFightTCG
      I know the strong deck in a certain format removes diversity in deck building

    • @GearGuardianGaming
      @GearGuardianGaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@mwael3600 it wasnt handtraps. It was hands. Namely fire hand and ice hand, and their xyz giant hand. Hand, artifacts and traptrix.

    • @aVo_001
      @aVo_001 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAT really was peak Yugioh.

    • @mwael3600
      @mwael3600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aVo_001
      I wasn't playing the meta of that Era and still got wins against the Meta, using Constellar Artifact deck (Tier 1)

  • @Red-qv4nb
    @Red-qv4nb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Running exodia spam with a crap ton of redraws on them before they knew you were only allowed to have 3 of the same card was pretty fun

  • @vishmaster09
    @vishmaster09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way I would determine strongest decks is how good they can handle other decks. spyrals was tier 0 but that was because mr4 crippled all meta decks whilst spryals managed to take advantage of their link monster. also at that time any deck with triple grinder golem and triple firewall dragon would have been meta and spryals could include this aswell.
    they wouldn't be able to compete that well against decks from other eras. Pepe and zoodiacs are better at dealing with decks of other eras like orcust or salamangreat or Adamancipators

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For fair comparing WE need an official unlimited Tournament where the best Players are playing

  • @KnueppelPolitur
    @KnueppelPolitur ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tele-DaD was in 2008!

  • @jurtyt4514
    @jurtyt4514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imma go with Vorse Raider beatdown

  • @EngCenturion
    @EngCenturion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TeleDad will always have special place in my heart.

  • @swisscheeze8594
    @swisscheeze8594 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Raidraptors on top 🗿

  • @derschattenpoet
    @derschattenpoet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TeleDad was the breakingpoint of YGO as we used to know it and the start of the newschool. Depending on who you ask, it was either a revolution or straight up the death of the game.

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean the current Era of yugioh didn't really start untill 2015 with the release of duelist alliance

  • @BenBePlayin333
    @BenBePlayin333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dragon Rulers before ban has left the chat

    • @NNRedemption
      @NNRedemption 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dragon rulers lost many matchups against Zoo, spyral etc. Even with all today Support Like guarddragons

  • @philbuttler3427
    @philbuttler3427 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my time playing, it definitely felt like Djinn Lock Nekroz.

  • @kozaky6584
    @kozaky6584 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good old Tele-DAD, where someone going first could show me their hand and declare GG in locals and I would just have to hold the L.

  • @XionSteel
    @XionSteel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best answer is just any full powered Pre-errata deck that either did everything, or else took full control of the game with only a handful of boss monsters at the end of their summon chain.

  • @mekahans3678
    @mekahans3678 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Historically i will say DAD
    But for power lever maybe between Tear and Zoo

  • @rikacomedyletsplays2581
    @rikacomedyletsplays2581 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dark armed dragon a card so famous IRL that once they showed it in the anime the money nerds used its gx example of *this card is so rare people would only see it once in a lifetime* to guess that dad and any other future "super strong card or extra deck card"
    WOULD COST AS MUCH AS A HOUSE considering gx made it seem as if it was close to blue eyes rare.

  • @Zetact_
    @Zetact_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Something else that might be important to consider is how insulated the deck is to banlist hits. How likely is the deck to be identified as a problem deck such that it immediately gets hit? How ingrained are the deck's engines with the rest of the meta such that hitting key cards in it would hurt adjacent decks? If it does get utterly reamed by the banlist, can the deck pivot its strategy and still remain competitive? Gut instinct is telling me that with this in mind, it would be Dragon Rulers, because they were just SO versatile that the only way to actually limit their power was to outright ban them all. TeleDAD might also go into this since a lot of its key pieces could be shuffled around if they got hit and none of the individual ones seemed so broken to deserve a ban getting things like the Extra Deck's options hit would hurt the opponents to TeleDAD as much as they hurt TeleDAD, and DAD even at 1 was strong.

  • @thepokeystormtrooper3585
    @thepokeystormtrooper3585 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally would say zoodic they may not have had the highest percentage of play when they were teir 0 but the fact they did make it to tier 0 is already a strong indicator, but unlike other tier 0 decks, and the reason I say their the strongest in history of yugioh, is even after they were gutted by the ban list they were able to come back as a tier 1 deck, as far as my knowledge that is something no other tier 0 deck has ever been able to do that

  • @PrototypePlatform
    @PrototypePlatform ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "best" is subjective. spiral required little to no improv, and teledad was dominant because of powercreep over other cards. and although tearlaments was also something that powercrept, it still required insane amounts of skill to pilot in mirror matches. tear always managed to tell you who was a greater player and a lesser player based on who was winning because the deck was 100% universally the same AND was hard to pilot.

  • @COOLTiKK
    @COOLTiKK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nekroz comes to mind, that deck is still probably one of the most consistent decks ever created, and it took years for some of the main engine to get unbanned, and was constantly winning. Only reason why it's not being played is because Djinn lock is still banned after 9 years... The deck totally dominated anything it went against.

  • @GG_Nowa
    @GG_Nowa ปีที่แล้ว

    i feel as if it would be zoo. the deck was an absolutely cracked deck as either pure or an engine.
    absolutely could out resource anything as the ways to out it spent more than they put in and it always have followup. plus it's sheer resilience to the banlist till spyral happened was amazing.
    ishzu tear was good from a pure power perspective but it dies to ways that the decks that could play the outs didn't care because it didn't hinder them and in some cases even helped them make plays as it also helped them.

  • @renzoe.v9484
    @renzoe.v9484 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have some rough flashbacks from Tele-daddy duels

  • @nasodianlord4802
    @nasodianlord4802 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In terms of raw power, i say dragon lords, so power they can never be unbanned

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well we already got two of them off the ban list. so this might not be true going into the future.

    • @nasodianlord4802
      @nasodianlord4802 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MonkeyFightTCG oh shit, I knew wind made it off, which other one made it out?

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fire

    • @nnnp634
      @nnnp634 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Little chaos dragons are better anyway

    • @nasodianlord4802
      @nasodianlord4802 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nnnp634 I haven't played recently and I never imagined the game would speed up enough for dragon lords to be balanced, severe PTSD from their bullshit back in Xyz era and I can't even fathom the bullshit they can do now

  • @Guessedsteak16
    @Guessedsteak16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends. If it was a huge tournament with every meta relevant deck, it would either be Tear, Kashtira, or Floowandereeze in their primes. Kash and Floo because they have incredible power against other decks, and the macro cosmos would be a huge problem, and they have an amazing game against Tearlaments.

  • @undeadinside3571
    @undeadinside3571 ปีที่แล้ว

    When he got to teledad, i noticed he had 4 allure of darkness

  • @anthonybehner7449
    @anthonybehner7449 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I like the cross ban list cup that lithium 2300 runs for these what ifs

  • @ssgundam40
    @ssgundam40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Full power exodia pre errata, it’s a 100% Ftk and the only real out is going first. It was the cause of a legit one deck format and caused major overhauls to the game which layed the foundations of modern play.

  • @scorpiophoenix2778
    @scorpiophoenix2778 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would also give a mention to Dragon Link. They used a bunch of strategies to follow through with a combo that leads to an end board of powerful monsters. On Master Duel, I have seen this weird Rock monster deck that is kind of like it but without linking too much. Also E Heros are annoying lol if you can't stop the Vision heroes, its over.

  • @tylord96
    @tylord96 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Adamancipator is arguably the strongest deck of all time but was unfortunately released during a time where there weren’t any active events going and got hit pretty hard by the ban list before events started up again.

    • @leonlk
      @leonlk ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but does it play turn 0 like tear ?

    • @tylord96
      @tylord96 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@leonlk it prevents your opponent from playing at all its negate after negate, their first normal summon is a negate, it’s hand trap proof and can recover from any board wipe and any amount of disruption. Tear does nothing to adamancipator except help them

    • @nnnp634
      @nnnp634 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did nothing in the OCG so one Maxx C obliterates them. Even without that, LCS were probably the biggest tournament we had, and Rocks had grand total of 0 victories.
      It is arguably the best youtube deck of all time, but no where near the best deck of all time

    • @tylord96
      @tylord96 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nnnp634 that’s factually incorrect. They completely dominated remote duels the only other viable deck in the format was synchro eldlich at a distant second. And ocg has zero relevance on tcg, maxx alone is responsible for that not to mention their vastly different card pool.

  • @mkt6r407
    @mkt6r407 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me it’s these 5 in no particular order: Tear, Zoo, Spyral, Pepe, Magical Scientist FTK

  • @timaeusdelpueblosecretodel6801
    @timaeusdelpueblosecretodel6801 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Didn't spyral play machine dupe or am I high?

  • @EflowNivek
    @EflowNivek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exodia in JP with pre-erratum to Witch and Sangan. It ran triple Graceful for God sake.

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats definitly up there especially if we consider the ocg which i didnt for this video. It's funny beacuse in cross banlist events or in no banlist events it doesn't perform super well. Between droll and lock bird and decks that can play on either turn, the deck can just get blown out. Somehow we've powercreept the game that hard.

    • @EflowNivek
      @EflowNivek ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MonkeyFightTCG oh yeah I definitely agree handtraps have really ramped the power level. There's just no other deck that I'm aware of that required an emergency erratum since

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pepe also had an e banlist of 4 and a half cards but it's definitely not as bad as exodia, which literally created the ban list

  • @epiclord7039
    @epiclord7039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like full power Pepe with links would be the strongest.

  • @aaronashcaster5875
    @aaronashcaster5875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going with dragon rulers causing emergency banlist

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว

      well so did pendulums and cyberstien OTK. so are they also the best deck ever?

  • @forevergenin
    @forevergenin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was that 4 allure of darknesses?

  • @dominic7100
    @dominic7100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is undoubtably tear.

  • @vitorrodrigues7946
    @vitorrodrigues7946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SPYRAL no doubt about it

  • @Telados
    @Telados ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's Lightsworn obviously

  • @vo1ce147
    @vo1ce147 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think zoo like it's probably the best deck at full power with current pool we has for card, remember 1 draident and then back to the ban zone.

  • @stinkyboy101
    @stinkyboy101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4 Allure and, at the time, OCG exclusives in the TeleDad list

  • @Wet_Noodle209
    @Wet_Noodle209 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grave keepers are a solid deck. They won’t give them anymore support because it’s so strong, but you give decks like blue eyes bitch dragon, galaxy eyes, and Kashtira support.

  • @MadaraR6
    @MadaraR6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen decklist like this before where some cards are missing or flipped face down can anyone educate me on this matter?

  • @generalowen4344
    @generalowen4344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wouldn't turn 1 exodia be the strongest?

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's actually ties with some other decks for tournament representation.
      And it loses to tearlament ishizu in cross ban list

  • @BramLastname
    @BramLastname ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean if you look at what deck survived the most bans, I think Dragon Rulers might have a shot at being the best deck.

    • @aVo_001
      @aVo_001 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had to outright ban the whole archetype. I don’t know what equivalent there is to that.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aVo_001 it's really funny to me that the Baby Rulers were still too good.

  • @Stray_x
    @Stray_x ปีที่แล้ว

    Chaos Return was pretty huge

  • @user-er8pq9ur8w
    @user-er8pq9ur8w 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Celtic guardian noble arms stunlock

  • @retroprogamer7009
    @retroprogamer7009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would probably say Dragon Ruler was way more overpowered at the time

  • @mr.meeseeks2310
    @mr.meeseeks2310 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played Spyral for its entirety…best combo deck easily.
    Full power Zoo…absurd consistency

  • @marcusjihansson
    @marcusjihansson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tearlaments Ishizu is by far the best deck. If you play it vs Spyral do you have so many hand traps to disrupt your opponent. Just by the simple fact that you have 9-12 Bystials, 3 Havnis, 3 Kelbek and 3 Orange Light. Also 3 Maxx C by Ocg standard. This could make it hard for Spyral to do a full combo

  • @christianobermiller3225
    @christianobermiller3225 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there 4 Allure of darkness in the TeleDAD pic?

  • @potato9998
    @potato9998 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come the second dark arm dragon deck had 4 copies of that one dark monster pot of greed?

  • @BehindTheDuelDisk
    @BehindTheDuelDisk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There were some errors in that tele dad list

  • @99099
    @99099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoutout to spyral being tier 0 twice xd

  • @tylerneumann3460
    @tylerneumann3460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teledad back when dark armed was only a chase secret rare and was $350+ a copy

  • @bobloebeep1
    @bobloebeep1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lightsworns/ judgement dragon!

  • @virust5941
    @virust5941 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest telly dad was a nightmare to face

  • @L1nk2002
    @L1nk2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's ish tear without a doubt

  • @bossanova3292
    @bossanova3292 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dragon rulers, I had just gotten back into yugioh right before they dropped and was just learning synchro and xyz, and when that deck dropped you couldn't escape it on duel network. I never once beat it and seeing the engine work for the first time fried my brain. That deck was broken.

  • @strawberrysherbet96
    @strawberrysherbet96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So tearlaments then. They’re coming back

  • @johnprobert6618
    @johnprobert6618 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zoodiacs and dragon rulers dude. Best historical decks to ever see play in yugioh hands down

  • @Human-hv1qb
    @Human-hv1qb ปีที่แล้ว

    What I was personally curious about is what was the best deck for the longest amount of time? Like which deck was best for the most amount of time.

    • @dely9999
      @dely9999 ปีที่แล้ว

      TeleDAD i s
      I'm not wrong it was the META deck for the entire Synchro Era

    • @MonkeyFightTCG
      @MonkeyFightTCG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably zoodiac. They had almost a year.

  • @cramcram5509
    @cramcram5509 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else notice the 4 Allure of Darkness?

  • @Alexifeu
    @Alexifeu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dark Magician best deck

  • @koragola
    @koragola 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End deck is my favorite broken deck.

  • @deadpancrickets6881
    @deadpancrickets6881 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro the speed of the game has progressed SO FAR I am BEGGING for Full Power Dragon Rulers to come back. They will change literally nothing about the meta but the mechanics of babies directly summoning their older parents is just too sick to keep in the banlist!

  • @Resurgram
    @Resurgram ปีที่แล้ว

    Man teledad be playin 4 allure of darkness, no wonder it was tier 0

  • @HuhJuhWuh
    @HuhJuhWuh ปีที่แล้ว

    OG goyo was unbelieveably good, by far the best lvl 6 synchro and easy to access since it didnt always need an earth tuner and the lack of lvl 4 tuners made it a crazy turn 1 threat. 5Ds was the best.

    • @mooncalf_4534
      @mooncalf_4534 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was literally as good as the level 8s other than Stardust lol. It had the statline for level 8s and a solid ability. Honestly so stupid it got put in level 6.