The 70/90 was never released in civilian version, only a few, mithical, ones, about 5-10. Here in Italy we can buy at relatively low price, surplus rifles from Carabinieri. Converted to semiautomatic, european A6 class of firearms, some restrictions. No part kit here. I have 2 Fn made Fal (stg58 and israeli's) originals, converted to semiauto fire
I think that the most modern of AR70/90 actually is the SCP version that looks like the FN FNC. I found some pics with adapted rails on hand guard. However, I agree with a new modernization keeping the retro style, but without that ugly carry handle ahhah
I like it a lot. I really like the bipod and the way it tucks in, it almost becomes invisible and just looks kinda like part of the handguard. I think they should do a completely modernized version of this rifle.
beretta has already done two newer assaultrifle,arx 160 and the upcomign Narp,i doubt so much they gonna modernize ar 70 or ar 70/90,surplus are still around on civilian market from formerly ranks of our gendarmery/carabinieri
Ah, the good ol' AR70/90. I used it a lot back in my military days, I was assigned an SC 70/90 (almost identical, with a folding stock). Soft shooter and extremely precise firearm, we were shooting nice and tight groups at 100m with only iron sights. Good times
Me too. Every now and then I bring out my 92FS from my safe just to look at it. It’s a gorgeous design, fits my hands perfectly and with a hammer spring replacement has a fantastic double action trigger. Best of all, aside from the 5th round it fired, it has had absolutely zero malfunctions after about 1,700 rounds. My only complaint with mine is there’s no rail for a light and the front sight is built into the slide and can’t be replaced without paying a gunsmith.
0:50 - I always imagine this man sitting inside an elevated camouflaged cabin at the edge of a vast field waiting for unsuspecting deer or trespassers to appear on his crosshairs. And then it's go time.
10:00 The Rear Sight can be set for 150 or 300 meters. Two other older models also existed. One was a similar Flip-L set to 200 & 400 meters. The other model Sight could be set to 1, 2, or 300 meters via a Knob on the side.
Interesting rifle, the ejection was all over some at 1 o’clock, some at 3 just dropping out of chamber, and some at 5 o’clock flying out. Great video MAC
If the cooperation between Sig and Beretta stopped because Sig wanted a roller delay and Beretta a rotating bolt, well, it is now the Stg90 that is similar to the AR70, and not the contrary. 😊
Nice to finally see this rifle in action. I'm a Beretta fanboy and have seen many instances of this rifle in AWB listings since the 90s but never one in real life. Running the recoil spring over the piston is freaking genius.
I remember way back when we were deployed to Norway for Strong Resolve ‘98 and met some Italian Alpine troops with their Beretta rifles. They seemed like very robust rifles. Very nice.
The connection of the Bolt carrier to the Gas Piston via the Cocking handle comes from the FN CAL / FNC designs. Over the years, the EI has used Garands, BM59s, AR10s, AR70s, AR70/90, and now the ARS160. With liberalized gun regulations from 1980s onwards, Military Rifles on Semi Auto, or with FUll Auto permanently converted to SemiAuto ( eg, BM59, StG58, even MP44,) are available to collectors/shooters. All conversions must be Nat.Proof House Approved and Tested to be allowed into circulation. DocAV
It's the SIG 550 that has the long stroke gas piston and the recoil spring around the gas cylinder like the Beretta AR70, not the contrary. Infact the primary disagreement between the two manufacturers was that Beretta wanted to use a gas action, while SIG wanted to use a roller delayed one. The roller delay didn't work well with .223 Rem, so they first made a roller locked rifle (SIG 530) that, at that point was uselessly complex, so they finally settled on a gas action almost identical to the Beretta one (SIG 540).
Rock and locks are ideal for very cold climates. Any freezing rain or snow quickly makes the AR’s mag lock inoperable. Thats why Russia and the Swiss still us them. Eliminates having to learn the whole Tap, Rack and assess drill. ( most people that takes 4 seconds to get back on target) and during war you never have to worry if your magazine is fully seated. Lol Anything you pick is a trade off.
this is amazing....how hell didnt the AR add some of these features? the disassembly of the gas block, barrel, and piston alone is awesome. field stripping is way easier
Is Beretta releasing new versions of these because this is the 2nd video this week on these. You and small arms solutions both made in depth videos on these.
Beretta isn’t bringing them back and they’ve never been imported even when it was relatively easy. These are parts kit guns and Small Arms Solutions releasing one at the same time is coincidence since they just did a run of them.
I only handled a pre-ban Beretta AR70 Sporter briefly. I liked it very much, but the dreaded importation ban put it out of reach. It makes me appreciate my AR-15 more. The AR-15 is a first rate rifle, and is here.
Grazie per il tuo video .scrivo dall' ITALIA e apprezzo tutto ciò che ci proponi.pero' ,permettimi una piccola critica....... per noi che non siamo di lingua madre " inglese" ,a volte ,è difficile capire tutto ciò che dici ,perché parli a velocità da " indycar" 😊😊..... purtroppo non sei il solo ......l inglese è la lingua universale e mi sta bene,ma spesso dimenticate che nel resto del mondo, non sempre è facile. Grazie ...... I' AR -70/90 era stato appena accettato come fucile d assalto dall' Esercito Italiano, quando, nel 1993 stavo servendo il mio paese in un battaglione Alpini. Per tutto l anno ,però, continuammo ad utilizzare il vecchio BM-59 TA.un saluto.con rispetto ed ammirazione.
I think the carry handle would look badass if it ran to the front of the handguard. Would suck to carry the handle on your kit, but when installed the rifle would look so cool.. 🤷🏼♂️
It was made from a parts kit because most people don't realize how much both parties have already infringed. I agree with Jason that any kind of firearm with historical connotations is just cooler with usage marks. It's nice to have a brand new looking firearm, but there's a story behind those marks. Especially the tick marks...
@@mikekrotz8267 the kits were super easy to find two years ago they sold pretty fast I grabbed a few and are being built now. Value is tough as the market is about supply and demand pretty much so you’d have to list it to find out.
One design change they should have done was to extend and length the trapdoor cover to go all the way up to the charging handle and not just to cover the opening.
MAC is there any worry about losing zero with the fact that the front sight is not permanently attached to the barrel but is removed for field stripping? What is the weight compared to a US standard M4/M16? It looks heavy.
Quite the contrary. The primary disagreement between the two manufacturers was that Beretta wanted to use a gas action, while SIG wanted to use a roller delayed one. The roller delay didn't work well with .223 Rem, so they first made a roller locked rifle (SIG 530) that, at that point was uselessly complex, so they finally settled on a gas action almost identical to the Beretta one (SIG 540).
About two years ago a bunch of kits were imported and finally getting finished up by builders. I have a couple that’s been being built for over 14months and am waiting patiently. These videos tie me over in the mean time
It does not fit I have checked on mine you can modify your bipod or barrel to make it fit I am in the process of modifying a BM 59 to fit on my Beretta AR 70 OG bipod Are impossible to find
If you think about going with interfore I’d say look at there google reviews you’ll see work done by the owner and Reddit tore his mp5k clone to shreds . It’s like if you squint your eyes the gun is mint with its sight post that is wiggling don’t add anything to the gun you buy it will void the warranty. I am glad to say I got rid of them.
Not a chance…about two years ago some parts kits came in and were all bought up pretty quickly. I got a couple kits that are being built right now. Very cool piece.
James bond movie intro scene circa 1997, he had one without the gas cover in full auto, I just watched the movie, it is the one with john price as the media globalist trying to "nuke" the world! anyways that gun and the BMW motorcycle used were the standouts , in that film sequel to goldeneye 1995 oh don't forget the stealth ship!
Dear Tim, we’re still waiting for you to do a special history episode on the FN Minimi / M249 SAW because it’s keep getting overlooked and still that nobody has ever done one here on YT.
The 70/90 was never released in civilian version, only a few, mithical, ones, about 5-10. Here in Italy we can buy at relatively low price, surplus rifles from Carabinieri. Converted to semiautomatic, european A6 class of firearms, some restrictions. No part kit here. I have 2 Fn made Fal (stg58 and israeli's) originals, converted to semiauto fire
That's not true i saw a plenty of them at least 30/40 and even for a low price (1150/1300€)
They were sold in France too in 222R.
Ci sono gli AR70 sportivi però
Salve, volevo chiedere, la precisione su 100m come è?
You can own guns in Italy?
Pretty cool idea to have the charging handle hold the piston in place.
Beretta needs to do an updated model, or just a retro line.
I think I completely modernized version of this would be great.
I think that the most modern of AR70/90 actually is the SCP version that looks like the FN FNC. I found some pics with adapted rails on hand guard.
However, I agree with a new modernization keeping the retro style, but without that ugly carry handle ahhah
All it needs is an updated carry handle similar to Z carry handles. Maybe an mlok handguard so we can put more shit on.
They did. AR70/90. And then ARX-100
@@Pavia1525 the ARX100 isn't in the same league as this rifle.
I like it a lot. I really like the bipod and the way it tucks in, it almost becomes invisible and just looks kinda like part of the handguard. I think they should do a completely modernized version of this rifle.
beretta has already done two newer assaultrifle,arx 160 and the upcomign Narp,i doubt so much they gonna modernize ar 70 or ar 70/90,surplus are still around on civilian market from formerly ranks of our gendarmery/carabinieri
small arms solutions posted a video about the 70/90 just the other day. how cool.
The happiness I see in your face with a new piece of history you acquired made my day..Great review, thanks for sharing..
Ah, the good ol' AR70/90. I used it a lot back in my military days, I was assigned an SC 70/90 (almost identical, with a folding stock). Soft shooter and extremely precise firearm, we were shooting nice and tight groups at 100m with only iron sights. Good times
Classy Italian episode of MAC.
I really do just enjoy Berettas.
Me too. Every now and then I bring out my 92FS from my safe just to look at it. It’s a gorgeous design, fits my hands perfectly and with a hammer spring replacement has a fantastic double action trigger. Best of all, aside from the 5th round it fired, it has had absolutely zero malfunctions after about 1,700 rounds. My only complaint with mine is there’s no rail for a light and the front sight is built into the slide and can’t be replaced without paying a gunsmith.
There's just something about a company that's been making firearms for close to 550 years.
0:50 - I always imagine this man sitting inside an elevated camouflaged cabin at the edge of a vast field waiting for unsuspecting deer or trespassers to appear on his crosshairs. And then it's go time.
10:00 The Rear Sight can be set for 150 or 300 meters. Two other older models also existed. One was a similar Flip-L set to 200 & 400 meters. The other model Sight could be set to 1, 2, or 300 meters via a Knob on the side.
Interesting rifle, the ejection was all over some at 1 o’clock, some at 3 just dropping out of chamber, and some at 5 o’clock flying out. Great video MAC
If the cooperation between Sig and Beretta stopped because Sig wanted a roller delay and Beretta a rotating bolt, well, it is now the Stg90 that is similar to the AR70, and not the contrary. 😊
The rifle designed by Sig that went into production was the SG 530-1 that employed a gas-assisted roller-delayed blowback.
Nice to finally see this rifle in action. I'm a Beretta fanboy and have seen many instances of this rifle in AWB listings since the 90s but never one in real life. Running the recoil spring over the piston is freaking genius.
I wish they would do a retro line and bring back the AR70, i love that thing.
Not the biggest Beretta fan but this is awesome cold war gun. Great video MAC!
Funny, small arms solutions just uploaded a video on this rifle today as well, not complaining tho, I really love these older military NATO rifles.
One of my bucket list guns. Was the European Nato gun for the 12in GI Joe's in the 80s and 90s.
I remember way back when we were deployed to Norway for Strong Resolve ‘98 and met some Italian Alpine troops with their Beretta rifles. They seemed like very robust rifles. Very nice.
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻. Much love MAC!!
Them guns seem to be sooooo much smother recoiling than a standard AR15 guns! Almost butter like after the first round for some reason!
The connection of the Bolt carrier to the Gas Piston via the Cocking handle comes from the FN CAL / FNC designs.
Over the years, the EI has used Garands, BM59s, AR10s, AR70s, AR70/90, and now the ARS160.
With liberalized gun regulations from 1980s onwards, Military Rifles on Semi Auto, or with FUll Auto permanently converted to SemiAuto ( eg, BM59, StG58, even MP44,) are available to collectors/shooters. All conversions must be Nat.Proof House Approved and Tested to be allowed into circulation.
DocAV
Imo these look awesome MAC, love to have one, really cool!!
Love the sarcasm in the beginning.
why do I now want one so bad, really any Beretta especially the ARX
Small arms solutions dropped a video yesterday about the 70/90 .. I have one that’s cut up that I’m going to get built.. looks like they are cool guns
That’s a real cool rifle thx for sharing it. Personally I like all my surplus rifles looking a little beat up
After Sig - Beretta project split in 1968, Sig presented the SG 530-1, that employed a gas-assisted roller-delayed blowback, and Beretta the AR70.
I can already see Karl Kasarda getting his hands on this gun to do a mud test video. It’s up to you Tim if you want to loan your rifle to him.
good video - thanks mac
Texas checking in here too.
The built in bipod and the way the gas block comes off is so cool great video like usual brother
It's the SIG 550 that has the long stroke gas piston and the recoil spring around the gas cylinder like the Beretta AR70, not the contrary. Infact the primary disagreement between the two manufacturers was that Beretta wanted to use a gas action, while SIG wanted to use a roller delayed one. The roller delay didn't work well with .223 Rem, so they first made a roller locked rifle (SIG 530) that, at that point was uselessly complex, so they finally settled on a gas action almost identical to the Beretta one (SIG 540).
Bellissimo!
The one biggest improvement of the AR70/90 over the original is the modification to accept STANAG mags. It makes reloading much faster & easier.
Rock and locks are ideal for very cold climates. Any freezing rain or snow quickly makes the AR’s mag lock inoperable. Thats why Russia and the Swiss still us them. Eliminates having to learn the whole Tap, Rack and assess drill. ( most people that takes 4 seconds to get back on target) and during war you never have to worry if your magazine is fully seated.
Lol Anything you pick is a trade off.
Nice! They appear to be very gentle firing rifles.
this is amazing....how hell didnt the AR add some of these features? the disassembly of the gas block, barrel, and piston alone is awesome. field stripping is way easier
Is Beretta releasing new versions of these because this is the 2nd video this week on these. You and small arms solutions both made in depth videos on these.
Beretta isn’t bringing them back and they’ve never been imported even when it was relatively easy. These are parts kit guns and Small Arms Solutions releasing one at the same time is coincidence since they just did a run of them.
@@Militaryarmschannel total coincidence! I just found out myself! Great minds Tim!
Still the best intro music 👌
I wish full auto guns were legal in Italy.
This and the bm59 would prolly be my first guns
Woah, a 2nd AR70/90 video in 24 hours!
I only handled a pre-ban Beretta AR70 Sporter briefly. I liked it very much, but the dreaded importation ban put it out of reach. It makes me appreciate my AR-15 more. The AR-15 is a first rate rifle, and is here.
Grazie per il tuo video .scrivo dall' ITALIA e apprezzo tutto ciò che ci proponi.pero' ,permettimi una piccola critica....... per noi che non siamo di lingua madre " inglese" ,a volte ,è difficile capire tutto ciò che dici ,perché parli a velocità da " indycar" 😊😊..... purtroppo non sei il solo ......l inglese è la lingua universale e mi sta bene,ma spesso dimenticate che nel resto del mondo, non sempre è facile. Grazie ......
I' AR -70/90 era stato appena accettato come fucile d assalto dall' Esercito Italiano, quando, nel 1993 stavo servendo il mio paese in un battaglione Alpini. Per tutto l anno ,però, continuammo ad utilizzare il vecchio BM-59 TA.un saluto.con rispetto ed ammirazione.
Great video.I wanted to see this great rifle fire in burst and full auto.
I love my preban Beretta AR-70. I have a Valmet 76 folding stock as well if your interested.
Ejection pattern like dealing cards, 2 in every direction.
Mind that the upper had not been made by Beretta.
I think the carry handle would look badass if it ran to the front of the handguard. Would suck to carry the handle on your kit, but when installed the rifle would look so cool.. 🤷🏼♂️
It was made from a parts kit because most people don't realize how much both parties have already infringed.
I agree with Jason that any kind of firearm with historical connotations is just cooler with usage marks.
It's nice to have a brand new looking firearm, but there's a story behind those marks.
Especially the tick marks...
Great video! Interesting design, very cool.
Whats The value of a kit build AR 70/90 rifle?
How hard was it to find one?
Thank you.
@@mikekrotz8267 the kits were super easy to find two years ago they sold pretty fast I grabbed a few and are being built now. Value is tough as the market is about supply and demand pretty much so you’d have to list it to find out.
The OG AR-70 is so much sexier imo
Dream gun here. Wish i could find one
i saw the Italians carrying the ar 70 in Haiti and wanted one ever sense
"The T-handle is confusing to some folks" 😂
Un beau fusils comme le FNC
Yea, i like this gun in Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 😌
Cool rifle.
What spotting scope are you using? You should do a spotting scope review
I want one. It's almost exactly like the Daewoo k2 (fnc copy).
Возрастная пружина на поршне после продолжительной стрельбы не теряла упругости от нагрева? Кто пользовался оружием поделитесь информацией.
One design change they should have done was to extend and length the trapdoor cover to go all the way up to the charging handle and not just to cover the opening.
outstanding video MAC. it looks like the FNC
I want a AK but complicated.
Bareta: - Hold my Beer!
Behold spaghetti AK!
Cool to see something different. Still looks like it’s better fitted back in the 70’s and 80’s and thank God for modern firearm technology lol
Part’s kit weld’s ❤ NFA❤
MAC is there any worry about losing zero with the fact that the front sight is not permanently attached to the barrel but is removed for field stripping? What is the weight compared to a US standard M4/M16? It looks heavy.
The Sig is widely considered an AK pattern despite its differences. Wouldn't the Beretta be considered such as well?
I miss the gauntlets! 😂
nice video!
By any chane will you make vid about Taiwanese T65 rifle?
That gas shut off seems like something that could catch or tend to get fiddled with. Cool looking rifle though.
Someone needs to Reproduce the AR-70, alongside the FNC. Someone get Palmetto State Armory on the phone!!!
AR 70/90 is the Sig 550 we have at home
Quite the contrary. The primary disagreement between the two manufacturers was that Beretta wanted to use a gas action, while SIG wanted to use a roller delayed one. The roller delay didn't work well with .223 Rem, so they first made a roller locked rifle (SIG 530) that, at that point was uselessly complex, so they finally settled on a gas action almost identical to the Beretta one (SIG 540).
All the gun youtubers are doing similar videos on this rifle. Did a bunch just show up?
About two years ago a bunch of kits were imported and finally getting finished up by builders. I have a couple that’s been being built for over 14months and am waiting patiently. These videos tie me over in the mean time
of course misha has one
Neet gas block removal.
Are we just supposed to assume this is in 556? I'm 10 minutes in and still no mention of calber.
Yes.
Its 5.56. Italy was part of Nato and still is and 5.56 was the standard. Also stanag compatible tells you its 5.56.
He said it takes STANAG magazines. That means 5.56
It’s a very well known fact they are 556 and most would know by the magazines and the era
Can you do me a favor? Can you check and see if the AR70/90 bipod fits on the AR70? Much appreciated. Thanks.
It does not fit I have checked on mine you can modify your bipod or barrel to make it fit I am in the process of modifying a BM 59 to fit on my Beretta AR 70 OG bipod Are impossible to find
If you think about going with interfore I’d say look at there google reviews you’ll see work done by the owner and Reddit tore his mp5k clone to shreds . It’s like if you squint your eyes the gun is mint with its sight post that is wiggling don’t add anything to the gun you buy it will void the warranty. I am glad to say I got rid of them.
Is the barrel 16" without the sleeve?
So they're gonna make those available in the US?
Not a chance…about two years ago some parts kits came in and were all bought up pretty quickly. I got a couple kits that are being built right now. Very cool piece.
If it’s Italian I love it and more so the FOOD 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
this is still better than the ar15s
Thatsa spiceeee meataball
Also laughing at how the AR 180 just has an open charging port vs this one that blocks element intrusion
have you designed a gun lad?
@@deadeye4256 Are you an engineer lad? finish another pint
Why no accuracy test?
James bond movie intro scene circa 1997, he had one without the gas cover in full auto, I just watched the movie, it is the one with john price as the media globalist trying to "nuke" the world! anyways that gun and the BMW motorcycle used were the standouts , in that film sequel to goldeneye 1995 oh don't forget the stealth ship!
Kinda weird how the rifle either just throws the brass on the ground or sends it to the next ZIP code.
Mind that the upper is not Beretta original.
The 70/90 is so ugly it’s beautiful.
It looks like the FN FNC.
Front end looking like a swiss army knife
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Even if they wound up I'm the same spot, the rifles are very different and the SIG StG series is superior
2nd video in two days I've seen...
Why does seemingly every European "assault rifle"(and many "battle rifles" as well) seemingly have the exact same pistol grip?
Glad to see MAC doing videos on Rumble. More so the Rumble only as they don’t censor set things like TH-cam.
No bayonet lug?? The horror! Lol
I liked kurzzeitmesstechnik mehl lol
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Dear Tim, we’re still waiting for you to do a special history episode on the FN Minimi / M249 SAW because it’s keep getting overlooked and still that nobody has ever done one here on YT.
Hey you got Spaghetti in my Fondue Tim.
Oh..?? Is that S. Korea army K2..??