If you’re doing 24V, I recommend installing the Brake Reduction Module to help spare the gears and make them last a little longer. I do recommend installing the BRM with 18V as well. Link below: www.mltoys.com/product-p/brake-reduction.htm
@@WheelieMan Hi, do you know if this works with the Ride-On Jeeps as well? I did not see it on their list in that link. Even her stock 12v sudden braking is pretty aggressive, and I'm about to add an 18v Ryobi 4amp with a speed controller. I love these kinds of upgrades we can do, basically evolving the vehicles with their age/abilities to get more life out of them!
I did this on my daughter's cadillac and ended up ruining the motors. I went with the mltoys 18v conversion and it did a lot better! The m18 trick works on a budget but isnt the best
Power Wheels Jeep Hurricane 12V to 18V conversion. Run time went to 4+ hours per charge and charge time dropped from 18 hours to 3 hours. Top speed went from 5 mph to just over 7 mph. Thank you for watching.
@@WheelieMan ya I put in new 550 motors in jeep hurricane. All stock and broke them in as instructed for 20mins with 12v. And with in 45 mins on milwakee m18 12ah both motors blow brushes and Armatures and they were name brand motors.
If u ever over discharge a Milwaukee battery just make it kiss a fully charged battery with 2 jumper wires….the power will equalize between the 2 and then it can be charged again….
Most complete guide out there thank you, for the low voltage disconnect at what % you should cut the power? For a XC 5.0 Not sure what tools are around. Thank you
Just make sure to unplug the battery after it hits 16.5 volts as the low voltage disconnect will still draw a little power from the battery if it stays plugged in.
I took out the screw so that it could drive 5mph. The higher speed was working. After a couple days in the house I carried it to the garage. Ever since when the gear shift is in 5mph nothing happens when the gas pedal is pressed down. Radio stopped working too.
Sorry to hear that. It’s possible a wire connection came loose either at the shifter or possibly one of the motors. Regarding the radio, that is powered independent of the motors, have you tried changing the batteries for the radio? Good luck.
Did you have to upgrade the motor to a eighteen volt motor? What if you wired in series two eighteen volt batteries and use the thirty six volt electric chainsaw motor?
Cool video, but I’m such a noob I’m not sure what order to connect things. I have pretty much every component you have in the video. Please correct me if I’m wrong: drill battery adapter positive to inline fuse to positive input on low voltage protector and drill battery adapter negative to negative input on low voltage protector? Then low voltage protector out to speed controller in? Then speed controller out to power wheels? Any help, correction, virtual hand holding much appreciated.
You nailed it right the first time. 👍. You’re steps are correctly listed. Congratulations. I hope the kid(s) enjoy it. Total time should not take more than 60 minutes and 2 beers for even the most novice builders. 😉
The higher past 12V you go, the sooner it breaks. But I’ve seen people run 54v in them, but longevity is not their strong suit at that voltage. Probably won’t last that long without significant upgrades to wiring, motors/gears/batteries/etc.
Hi, I bought a new J4394-9319 Replacement Shifter Assembly for Jeep Hurricane. When I press the pedal the gear boxes only work in the forward position on high speed. Forward low speed and reverse do not work. Any idea what could be wrong? Thanks!
If your Power Wheels won’t reverse, this could be due to a specific wire breaking off. It could also be because one of the wires has become disconnected. If you want to do a DIY fix yourself, you can open up the toy and check/clean the wires. It could also be a faulty shifter as well. Good luck. :)
I picked the toy up from the street. Someone was throwing it out. Currently trying to do a DIY rebuild off the mod you did in this video. I have the toy upside down with all wires exposed, rear wheels removed, gear box/pinions exposed. The shifter and Milwaukee adapter came in today. I hooked up the adapter with M18 battery to the black and white leads and changed the shifter. When I press the pedal only forward high gear works. All wires and connections look to be in tact. Also, the radio wire was connected to the old shifter. The new shifter doesn’t have a connection point for the radio wire. Idk what that’s about. Could it be the pedal that needs replacing as well?
That’s a great question. Personally I would recommend emailing ML Toys directly. They are my go to help line when I get stuck like this. They are pretty quick to respond as well. Good luck. Email: gofast@mltoys.com
I just gone done trouble shooting this exact issue and can say with 100% certainty that it means your driver's side motor is either disconnected or has failed. High gear gives power to both motors, low gear gives power to driver's side motor only, and reverse gives reverse polarity to driver's side only@@WheelieMan
Question. When we bought this car the box says it has a working radio but our radio never worked. Was there anything I had to do to make it work??? I have no idea . Thanks
Yes. 2 Phillips head screws holding in the radio cover. Unscrew cover and install 4 size C batteries. Then screw cover back on. Radio should work after.
@@monical4238 no, steering wheel removal is not required to access the radio battery compartment. Here is the vehicle manual. The instructions are on page 18. Good luck. 👍 www.fisher-price.com/inst_sheets/J4394pr-0921.pdf
Battery/electronics could be overheating, shutting off to prevent critical damage. Then when it cools off, it’s able to run again. Or could be a loose wire somewhere in the vehicle that is coming loose temporarily.
Open ended question but lets say 50 percent to 75 percent on controller. How hot does the motor get? Curious with hust going from 12v to 18v. Ive seen peoole say overheating issues with going 24v. Just curious how much life i might be saving in the motors by going 18v vs 24v.
Any issues melting the cutoff?? I ordered 2 from Amazon identical to yours and melted both. Tried one other brand melted it. Only difference I see is I’m running 2 packs parallel for extended run time.
Great video, I found it really informative. Thanks for linking all the parts. This project only seems to make sense if the12v stock battery dies and you need a new one or you happen to have spare 18v lithium Milwaukee batteries just lying around. The battery you linked by itself is $220! Seems like a pretty big expenditure for a 2 mph gain in performance. Would other Milwaukee 18v lithium batteries work? for example XC 8.0 Milwaukee 48-11-1880 M18 REDLITHIUM HIGH OUTPUT XC8.0?
Thank you for the feedback. Absolutely a smaller m18 battery will work. I had the 12.0 battery already and so I just used that for the most range. But even an lower cost M18 2.0 battery will work. Milwaukee 48-11-1820 M18 18v REDLITHIUM 2.0 Compact Battery Pack www.amazon.com/dp/B00BYFNR8M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_NN5TCZBAJTX36X0QFVDR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@WheelieMan Thanks again for the helpful video and response. I had one last question...I did the conversion and used the same low voltage cutoff you used. Everything was working great. I left the battery in the Power Wheels overnight thinking the low voltage cutoff would prevent over discharge and would cut the power when it needed to (I set it at 16.5v). I was wrong! The battery is completely shot and won't charge...do you remove the battery after each use? Have you had this issue?
Hi Michael. Yes, I do remove the battery after each use. I believe I have my cutoff set to 16.5 volts too. This info below is direct from the Amazon product listing for the cutoff: ---------------------------Most people are confused about this question,Please read as follow message carefully--------------------------- IMPORTANT TIPS This product works great to cut off the voltage when a battery discharges to a set level. It stops the output/load but you can NOT leave a battery hooked up to this product. This voltage cutoff (this product) stays on and will continue to drain the battery as this product (understandably) needs electricity to operate. True, this product will drain the battery much more slowly than your load was probably draining the battery, but make no mistake, this product consumes electricity after disconnecting the load and gets that electricity from your battery, eventually draining it.
Hi Kyron. It is 2 wheel drive, with a motor/gearbox in each of the rear wheels. Have you removed the screw in the gear selector switch to unlock speed 2/the high speed? Speed 1 (LO) only drives one wheel/motor primarily and sends very little power to the second wheel/motor and speed 2 (HI) drives both wheels. Could also possibly be a loose connection or a pinched wire or a failed motor or stripped gear in the wheel that is not turning. I’d start with looking at those first and see if something jumps out. Merry Christmas 🎄!
No, the stock motors can handle 12v-18v, but expect accelerated wear and tear on them so they will wear out quicker. I’m still running on the stock 12v motors since this upgrade.
Something like this could possibly work. I do t have personal experience with it. But for less than $20 it’s worth a try. 9V/12V/24V/48V/72V/85V Wireless Remote Switch with Long Range Voltage Switch for Anti-Theft Alarms Door Motor Cycles Smart light switch Universal Relay switch Model 9V-85V (1X Remote Control) www.amazon.com/dp/B08K7KDV2X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KZ37WMED8TJVYP929FZW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Awesome video thanks man. Doing 24v kobalt battery for my daughter and Ned to turn it down 😂
That’s Awesome 😎. Thanks for watching. Hope she loves it!
If you’re doing 24V, I recommend installing the Brake Reduction Module to help spare the gears and make them last a little longer. I do recommend installing the BRM with 18V as well.
Link below:
www.mltoys.com/product-p/brake-reduction.htm
@@WheelieMan thanks man I have one, never got around to installing it. Will get it done tho.
@@WheelieMan Hi, do you know if this works with the Ride-On Jeeps as well? I did not see it on their list in that link. Even her stock 12v sudden braking is pretty aggressive, and I'm about to add an 18v Ryobi 4amp with a speed controller. I love these kinds of upgrades we can do, basically evolving the vehicles with their age/abilities to get more life out of them!
@@dham99 Thanks for watching. This will work for the ride on Jeeps as well, as long as it’s Power Wheels Brand. Happy riding!
Very cool. Just fojnd one local for 50 bucks no battery. This solves that problem. Now just need a lithium bank for the full sound system.
I did this on my daughter's cadillac and ended up ruining the motors. I went with the mltoys 18v conversion and it did a lot better! The m18 trick works on a budget but isnt the best
It’s great how he replies to everyone on anything they need
Power Wheels Jeep Hurricane 12V to 18V conversion. Run time went to 4+ hours per charge and charge time dropped from 18 hours to 3 hours. Top speed went from 5 mph to just over 7 mph. Thank you for watching.
Are you having problems burning up motors?
Negative
The speed controller helps since I usually run it at 80%-90% instead of 100%.
Are you having issues?
@@WheelieMan ya I put in new 550 motors in jeep hurricane. All stock and broke them in as instructed for 20mins with 12v. And with in 45 mins on milwakee m18 12ah both motors blow brushes and Armatures and they were name brand motors.
Get some old BMX tires trim off the rimwire, and screw it with 3/4 inch screws.
You will find it helps with traction and control.
Excellent illustration. 👍
Wow... awesome
If u ever over discharge a Milwaukee battery just make it kiss a fully charged battery with 2 jumper wires….the power will equalize between the 2 and then it can be charged again….
Most complete guide out there thank you, for the low voltage disconnect at what % you should cut the power? For a XC 5.0 Not sure what tools are around. Thank you
Thank you Tommy. I set mine to 16.5 volts. 👍
Just make sure to unplug the battery after it hits 16.5 volts as the low voltage disconnect will still draw a little power from the battery if it stays plugged in.
Can you give us an update as to how well its held up and if it’s ruined any batteries?
Still working great. Haven’t had to replace any parts and everything is working like new. 🤙🏻
tutorial on installing sound engine boss
I took out the screw so that it could drive 5mph. The higher speed was working. After a couple days in the house I carried it to the garage. Ever since when the gear shift is in 5mph nothing happens when the gas pedal is pressed down. Radio stopped working too.
Sorry to hear that. It’s possible a wire connection came loose either at the shifter or possibly one of the motors.
Regarding the radio, that is powered independent of the motors, have you tried changing the batteries for the radio?
Good luck.
@@WheelieMan Turns out the white wire terminal under the gear shifter came loose. Doesn't stay connected very well so duct taped it. Thanks.
I just did the m18 conversion using the Kzreect kit off amazon and within seconds of being on pedal I blew two fuses. Any thoughts?
Did you have to upgrade the motor to a eighteen volt motor?
What if you wired in series two eighteen volt batteries and use the thirty six volt electric chainsaw motor?
Cool video, but I’m such a noob I’m not sure what order to connect things. I have pretty much every component you have in the video. Please correct me if I’m wrong: drill battery adapter positive to inline fuse to positive input on low voltage protector and drill battery adapter negative to negative input on low voltage protector? Then low voltage protector out to speed controller in? Then speed controller out to power wheels? Any help, correction, virtual hand holding much appreciated.
You nailed it right the first time. 👍. You’re steps are correctly listed. Congratulations. I hope the kid(s) enjoy it. Total time should not take more than 60 minutes and 2 beers for even the most novice builders. 😉
Here is a like to a rough visual diagram. imgur.com/gallery/oyS22uI
Can we still move it easily (like pulling it with a rope?) if the battery dies in the middle of road?
Yup. Can easily push it.
What's the highest voltage you can do on these things before it breaks down. I wanna make my son's jeep as fast as possible lol
The higher past 12V you go, the sooner it breaks. But I’ve seen people run 54v in them, but longevity is not their strong suit at that voltage. Probably won’t last that long without significant upgrades to wiring, motors/gears/batteries/etc.
Hi,
I bought a new J4394-9319 Replacement Shifter Assembly for Jeep Hurricane. When I press the pedal the gear boxes only work in the forward position on high speed. Forward low speed and reverse do not work. Any idea what could be wrong?
Thanks!
If your Power Wheels won’t reverse, this could be due to a specific wire breaking off. It could also be because one of the wires has become disconnected. If you want to do a DIY fix yourself, you can open up the toy and check/clean the wires. It could also be a faulty shifter as well. Good luck. :)
I picked the toy up from the street. Someone was throwing it out. Currently trying to do a DIY rebuild off the mod you did in this video. I have the toy upside down with all wires exposed, rear wheels removed, gear box/pinions exposed. The shifter and Milwaukee adapter came in today. I hooked up the adapter with M18 battery to the black and white leads and changed the shifter. When I press the pedal only forward high gear works. All wires and connections look to be in tact. Also, the radio wire was connected to the old shifter. The new shifter doesn’t have a connection point for the radio wire. Idk what that’s about. Could it be the pedal that needs replacing as well?
That’s a great question. Personally I would recommend emailing ML Toys directly. They are my go to help line when I get stuck like this. They are pretty quick to respond as well.
Good luck.
Email: gofast@mltoys.com
Thanks a lot👍🏻
I just gone done trouble shooting this exact issue and can say with 100% certainty that it means your driver's side motor is either disconnected or has failed. High gear gives power to both motors, low gear gives power to driver's side motor only, and reverse gives reverse polarity to driver's side only@@WheelieMan
How come you didn't use a relay with this build?
Tried to keep it as simple as possible
Question. When we bought this car the box says it has a working radio but our radio never worked. Was there anything I had to do to make it work??? I have no idea . Thanks
Yes. 2 Phillips head screws holding in the radio cover. Unscrew cover and install 4 size C batteries. Then screw cover back on. Radio should work after.
Thank you! Have to remove the steering wheel in order to do so, correct?
@@monical4238 no, steering wheel removal is not required to access the radio battery compartment. Here is the vehicle manual. The instructions are on page 18. Good luck. 👍
www.fisher-price.com/inst_sheets/J4394pr-0921.pdf
Thank you!
How does this work waterproof?
Where can I get the low voltage shut off and power controller
What is the problem when suddenly stop while running? After a few seconds its going to start again. No upgraded since i both. Pls help
Battery/electronics could be overheating, shutting off to prevent critical damage. Then when it cools off, it’s able to run again. Or could be a loose wire somewhere in the vehicle that is coming loose temporarily.
Open ended question but lets say 50 percent to 75 percent on controller. How hot does the motor get? Curious with hust going from 12v to 18v. Ive seen peoole say overheating issues with going 24v. Just curious how much life i might be saving in the motors by going 18v vs 24v.
I’ve yet to see it over heat. Not sure what temp it gets to. I’ve never measured it before.
Any issues melting the cutoff?? I ordered 2 from Amazon identical to yours and melted both. Tried one other brand melted it. Only difference I see is I’m running 2 packs parallel for extended run time.
I have not experienced any issues with mine. What gauge wire you running?
@@WheelieMan you said, "Do not use lithium batteries in a ride-on." so what are you using ?
@@youtoobmeloob I’m using the M18 lithium in the video.
@@WheelieMan so you are using a lithium ion then?
That is correct. 18V Milwaukee M18 battery.
Did you keep your old dc and add this one with it
I did not keep the old dc
Great video, I found it really informative. Thanks for linking all the parts.
This project only seems to make sense if the12v stock battery dies and you need a new one or you happen to have spare 18v lithium Milwaukee batteries just lying around. The battery you linked by itself is $220! Seems like a pretty big expenditure for a 2 mph gain in performance. Would other Milwaukee 18v lithium batteries work? for example XC 8.0 Milwaukee 48-11-1880 M18 REDLITHIUM HIGH OUTPUT XC8.0?
Thank you for the feedback. Absolutely a smaller m18 battery will work. I had the 12.0 battery already and so I just used that for the most range. But even an lower cost M18 2.0 battery will work. Milwaukee 48-11-1820 M18 18v REDLITHIUM 2.0 Compact Battery Pack www.amazon.com/dp/B00BYFNR8M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_NN5TCZBAJTX36X0QFVDR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I linked a lower cost battery option in the description. Thank you again for the feedback. 👍
@@WheelieMan Thanks again for the helpful video and response. I had one last question...I did the conversion and used the same low voltage cutoff you used. Everything was working great. I left the battery in the Power Wheels overnight thinking the low voltage cutoff would prevent over discharge and would cut the power when it needed to (I set it at 16.5v). I was wrong! The battery is completely shot and won't charge...do you remove the battery after each use? Have you had this issue?
Hi Michael. Yes, I do remove the battery after each use. I believe I have my cutoff set to 16.5 volts too. This info below is direct from the Amazon product listing for the cutoff:
---------------------------Most people are confused about this question,Please read as follow message carefully---------------------------
IMPORTANT TIPS
This product works great to cut off the voltage when a battery discharges to a set level. It stops the output/load but you can NOT leave a battery hooked up to this product. This voltage cutoff (this product) stays on and will continue to drain the battery as this product (understandably) needs electricity to operate. True, this product will drain the battery much more slowly than your load was probably draining the battery, but make no mistake, this product consumes electricity after disconnecting the load and gets that electricity from your battery, eventually draining it.
If you still have a warranty on the battery, I would make a warranty claim to get it replaced if it’s no longer charging.
Hi...overheat or broke? Any update? Ty
Are both rear wheels powered? Just got my kids a stock one and it just seems to spin one wheel on most surfaces.
Hi Kyron.
It is 2 wheel drive, with a motor/gearbox in each of the rear wheels.
Have you removed the screw in the gear selector switch to unlock speed 2/the high speed?
Speed 1 (LO) only drives one wheel/motor primarily and sends very little power to the second wheel/motor and speed 2 (HI) drives both wheels.
Could also possibly be a loose connection or a pinched wire or a failed motor or stripped gear in the wheel that is not turning.
I’d start with looking at those first and see if something jumps out.
Merry Christmas 🎄!
I have not removed the screw for the “2nd” gear. I’ll start there! Thank you so much!
That’s it then. Removing the screw sends max power to both wheels evenly in speed 2 (HI). That will definitely fix the issue. Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas to you as well!!
Thank you 😎
how many motors are running on this set up
2 motors
Did you not have to upgrade the 12v motors ?
No, the stock motors can handle 12v-18v, but expect accelerated wear and tear on them so they will wear out quicker. I’m still running on the stock 12v motors since this upgrade.
Any suggestions as far as a remote kill switch?
Something like this could possibly work. I do t have personal experience with it. But for less than $20 it’s worth a try. 9V/12V/24V/48V/72V/85V Wireless Remote Switch with Long Range Voltage Switch for Anti-Theft Alarms Door Motor Cycles Smart light switch Universal Relay switch Model 9V-85V (1X Remote Control) www.amazon.com/dp/B08K7KDV2X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KZ37WMED8TJVYP929FZW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Here is a good tutorial.
th-cam.com/video/jVh3OSEReuU/w-d-xo.html
45w motors ?