7:58 i disagree. manus's grave site being so atypical is likely a lore-based decision. the reason we can assume that is because other graves in dark souls are usually burial mounds, naturally formed caverns or simple pits dug into the dirt and marked with stones. the concept wasn't fleshed out when DS1 came out, but by the time of DS3, we would eventually learn that humanity has a class system, and at the top of the hierarchy are "the pygmy lords", direct descendants of the furtive pygmy who found the dark soul. they are the kings and queens of humanity by birthright and generally have the most powerful, most pure dark soul fragments dwelling in them. the implication of manus being "primeval" is that he was one of the first humans. that means he must either be the furtive pygmy, or one of their direct descendants, one of their family that was the first imbued with the dark soul. this is further emphasized with his name, "manus", which means "hand" and is the root word for "man" and "mankind". whoever manus was, he would've been immensely respected in his day, so him being buried in a special gravesite molded out of the stone with massive stone pillars marking it actually makes a lot of sense. it also makes sense that humanity would stop burying their dead that way, since with the advent the age of fire, gwyn begins sealing the dark soul within the darksign, meaning the magical ability to use the dark soul to mold the stone and construct the specialized stone pillars would've been lost. cultural shifts away from worshipping the dark and into worshipping fire also mean that humans would've lost their desire to bury their nobility in special places or special ways, since the nobility contained more dark soul and thus would've become more and more disliked as gwyn took control of the world.
I don't think Gwyn created the darksign until the fire started to fade. It was his backup plan to insure that _someone_ would always try to link the fire and never allow it to fully fade.
@@Greywander87 the ringed knight set says he branded the human knights after the war with the dragons, and one of the dragon-head shields says that humanity's heroics went unsung because gwyn feared their power. that is long, long before the fire started to fade.
Hi ! Loving your vids ! Here's an addition to your theorie from the Izalith's Staff from Dark souls 3 : "Ancient catalyst of the Witch of Izalith and her daughters, used long before the dawn of chaos and of pyromancy. With the birth of the Chaos Flame, the flame witches were at once both sorcerers and shamans. Faith adjusts the power of sorceries cast using this catalyst, and the staff also seems to boost the power of dark sorceries. Skill: Steady Chant Boost the strength of sorceries for a very short period. Works while equipped in either hand." So in fact, before the fire, religious people were shamans, and because there was no First Flame and pyromancy and because humanity came from the Dark, thus they use Dark spells (dark sorcery to be precise, like Manus) like this staff is indicating. I always found it strange (when i played DS3) for the Witch of Izalith to use dark sorceries before using pyromancies but this is their heritage, the heritage of all Humanity, drawing their power from the Dark before the Dawn and Age of Fire.
Although I've read somewhere that the witches of Izalith are a separate race. And it makes sense. They got a separate great soul and don't give humanity upon death. But the notion of nature/shamanism and humanity being linked is interesting, nice find
When it comes to the circle of statues, the bonfire at the center always felt emblematic of Gywn rather than the flame. In a weird way it is a more metaphorical interpretation of the statue of Gwyn in the ring city. They complete each other. The humanity's draw to the bonfire and the pygmies kneeling to Gwyn. Humanity in Dark Souls wasn't always drawn to the flame the gods bound them to it to control them.
That's can't be right; we know that some pre-flame creatures went up to the flame and found the lord souls. So clearly whatever we were before was attracted to them.
With both the idea that there is a great span of time between the first flame being found, and the different groups being created. And the war with the dragons. And the revelations given in DS3. I think there is an easy way to square "manus as furtive pygymy" and the pygmy lords. After all, Manus could have been the furtive pygmy. But it was the pygmy lords who participated in the war against the dragons. Manus having died, and been buried in the caves they lived in. Long before the war with the dragons and the age of fire. Inside the Caves of the land that would eventually become lordran. To be found by Oolacile a long time later. Oolacile, New Londo, Anor Londo, the Tomb of the Giants, and Izalith. All the places representing the peopole of the fire, and the four lords. And the ringed city, far away at the end of the world, where the Pygmies would come to live in. Perhaps the Oolacile Sanctuary represents not just the comemoration of the discovery of Manus, Humanity Sprites, and their attraction to flame. But perhaps the rediscovery of their nature as beings of the Dark Soul.
Arguably catastrophic, the cycle of fire and dark appears to be perfectly natural and not overly harmful to humanity. It's harmful to those beings born of light, which humanity are distinctly not.
a fire surrounded by humanity sprites looks like the inverse of the dark sign. maybe the sanctuary commemorates the first time the gods discovered the abyss, which would also be humanity discovering the divine.
I spent the last week and a half bing watching your entire Elden Ring series and it's one of the best things I've ever watched. It changed the way I interpreted the narrative, appreciate the art and stoked my dying, smouldering fire of curiousity.
This is the first video of ta’s that I saw the archaeological reference coming before the explanation! I live in England near Dartmoor and there are a lot of stone circles on the moors, I can specifically think of a stone circle by Gidleigh that has stones looking very much like Manus’ boss room lol
I think I find the lore surrounding the world of Elden Ring to be more interesting, but the lore surrounding the narrative of Dark Souls to be more compelling.
@@Gumper30 I felt despite the world and lore of ER being much broader in scale than DkR, it often felt like things were being scaled down to an individual level (probably because of most things that happened pretty much all came from the Marika's family). Whilst DkS to me, is the exact opposite, and like you said, DkS's narrative is a lot more compelling.
@@apophisstr6719 That's odd, because everything about DS lore entirely stems from things Gwyn did. Both games point to a pre-history before Gwyn and Marika. But the events the games are concerned with are entirely about the actions of these supremely powerful people and the world altering consequences which stem from them. To me, the games are almost identical except that their metaphorical content has altered as a result of Miyazaki getting older and acquiring different experiences. DS is smaller in scope and a lot of that reflects the uncertainty of someone learning to cram such a large narrative into a small game. ER is more confident and willing to take more risks while also being more sympathetic in some ways. It's hard to see Gwyn as anything but a villain. Marika is a bit more gray.
15:04 there's evidence that Denisovans actually had a burial practice since there was a skull found on a ledge that a lot of evidence says the skull could've only ended up on it via being set by someone/thing.
Regarding the sanctuary, I think it reflects something Last Protagonist covered in his video on the true nature of humanity in Dark Souls. In the absence of Fire (and thus disparity), humans have no individual existence. When the Fire finally fades, there will be no shadows, only one singular Dark that encompasses and is all. That is why the Dark sprites are drawn to those touched in some way by the Flame.
that is the problem, he doesnt use ANY info that the GAME itself provides to tell ITS story. he tries to somehow shoehorn in irl lore into elden ring or dark souls, who while take inspiration from irl stuff, have their own stories told INGAME via descriptions, item placement, enemy and enemy placement, etc he isnt analysing ANYTHING in those videos, he is just doing WIILD speculation that is extremely nonsensical
@@ONobreBabuino The developers of the game were inspired by the real world, and somehow you see it as a bad thing to actually examine that instead of pretending the game is a magic space with no connection to anything else. Video games are constantly referencing the real world, unfortunately most gamers aren't that smart.
@@PlatinumAltariai never denied that the devs use real world inspiration, as we see with the gwyn statue in heide being a falcon because its inspired from the sun god ra, who had a falcon head. my problem with TA's analysis is that he tries to fit in stuff from irl which just doesnt make sense in context of the game and even still, those irl inspirations are minor and help explain certain parts of the lore, like the gwyn statue thing i mentioned. but to the scale that TA tries to portray it to be, it just doesnt make any sense at all
It's ironic that the place were the first flame ignited would be were the ringed city was built on top of. Any chance for an analysis on the Cathedral of blue and Lothric how they share these motivs: the headless knight, the wax covered scholar, the priestess and the hunter?
Thank you, thank you, thank you for explaining such a simple yet profoundly fundamental part of the game so clearly. My lord. You just explained the must fundamental part of the very start of the game. What in the good dang heck is going on with the fire keepers? Besides them being evocative of the Vestals. It feels so obvious now but also so much more meaningful, they're literally living kindling. As is described in game, any sprite can be kindling. It's funny, I've felt the draw of fire (if you will) this entire time. Every time I played any Dark Souls game I marched right up there and linked the flame. I followed it's light like a moth. Suddenly I want to embrace the dark. =) And here I thought the story was mostly the poetic Edda and story of Siegund but all of that came much later.
"No other mammal is drawn to fire." - I get the feeling you're not a cat owner... But jokes aside, this is the dream. The Tarnished Achaeologist is going hollow.
I've always thought that humanity sprites looked like bodies wrapped for burial rituals and that they're ghosts of the original inhabitants who took that shape when arising from their tombs.
14:50 - I was going to say that, given the Dark Souls historical-cycle by which civilizations are kind of buried under other, newer kingdoms, it's possible the stone circle and grave weren't located in a cave at the time it was built.
It's very astounding how Souls games are very focused on the story they are trying to tell and its themes, and because of it they still convey so much about both their world and ours. Writing and game design at an incredibly high level, puts even the best of other games to shame.
I'm recognizing a lot of pre-historic architecture in the finger ruins of elden ring, coincidentally being near the shaman village. also i forgot how beautiful the atmosphere of the first dark souls is, which only elden ring could replicate. genuinely feel like a realistic completely alien society.
I’m interested in where this goes. There is definitely some interpretation going on that is different than many agreed upon DS lore theorists. That being said, DS lore is less rigid than Elden Ring’s lore and lends itself better to other interpretations.
I really dig your content and fully believe that you're one of the greats with regards to souls-lore. That said, my heart sinks every time I see something that isn't Elden Ring.
Youd have your mind blown when you realize the fog across all games comes from demon souls & the ending to that. Even having many archeological connections to Ancients who created the divine towers. Its mind boggling
I find it a bit of a leap in logic to assume the Humanity Sprites have always been in the Chasm of the Abyss. free-roaming Humanity is an oddity, it is something within humans and typically small, and i think it is a sign of the Humanity running rampant that disembodies humanity sprites of such size roam around in the abyss.
Things like this are why I don't like the Demon's Souls remaster. Great game, etc. but with the changes to the textures, the designs of the zones, even the soundtrack, Bluepoint didn't just alter FromSoft's intent. They altered the game's story and lore. Where FromSoft puts intent behind their creative choices, they would mix materials and architectures from different histories to make a point. Meanwhile, Bluepoint turned a defense outpost that had just succumbed to undeath to a gothic castle that has been abandoned for centuries. The remake looks amazing, it's beautiful, it sounds great. But it changed the story. And I don't like it. Lot's of talk about wanting a Bloodborne remaster - I want one too... but I don't want it, if it would be like the Demon's Souls one.
@5:20 prehistory doesnt really exist between mythology and history - its before both of them. Prehistory - the time in which humans lived, loved, believed in different gods, told different stories - makes up so much more of humans time on this planet. Yet so many people follow gods we made up just a few millenia ago
Most commonly known mythologies come from the same rough time period as modern religions, as the recording of myths was facilitated by the spread of writing, which was closely followed by the spread of religion.
I'd never seen the Jomon megalithic structures. Nice. Kinda lame since I did study their ceramics. I guess it's a lesson to lift your head up from time to time and look at your surroundings.
Minor point/reaction to the end of the vid. Being drawn to the light and all... Who said we are born from the dark? Not saying that person is wrong or anything like that - just wondering if he ever followed/extended the line of thought: "we are drawn to the light... I wonder if that means we're actually born from the light, not the dark?" Just flows more sensibly to me. 🙂
The Pygmy race in Dark Souls is the precursor to the humans of the world. The Pygmys rose, as all life did, when Fire existed, creating a duality in everything. So truly humanity in the Souls series contains this duality of Fire and Darkness... But humanity came into being because the Furtive Pygmy discovered the titular Dark Soul and in that was, all of humankind in these games is born of the Dark.
@@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike Humanities are fragments of the Dark Soul, one of the four Lord Souls that were found in the First Flame. The other three would thus be called the Light Soul, the Life Soul and the Death Soul. A unique property of the Dark Soul is that it's imperishable. Darkness can never truly end once defined, thus humanity is eternal. When Light, Life and Death are gone, only Dark will remain.
Great video, but I have to point out a potential source of misunderstanding in the information you provided. It is widely agreed upon that homosapiens have been around for about 300k - 160k years. While you did not specify "homosapiens have been around "800k years" I feel that clarity is necessary and also that Manus or "primordial man" may specifically be a reference to our evolutionary ancestors.
Tarnished Archeologist covering DARK SOULS?!?! THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE, WHAT A GIFT.
He already has a few videos on Dark Souls Archaeology, I believe. About the Chosen One and Dark Lord prophecies.
RIGHT LIKE IM SO HAPPY I LOVE THIS GAME AND CHANNEL
This is a testament to how rich and relevant Soulsborne lore is. But when it comes to lore, Bloodborne is still the reigning champion of all time!
Chosen Archiologist
@@martonandraskovacs8103 love that
"we are drawn to the flame, but we are born of the dark"
damn this slaps so hard
7:58 i disagree.
manus's grave site being so atypical is likely a lore-based decision. the reason we can assume that is because other graves in dark souls are usually burial mounds, naturally formed caverns or simple pits dug into the dirt and marked with stones.
the concept wasn't fleshed out when DS1 came out, but by the time of DS3, we would eventually learn that humanity has a class system, and at the top of the hierarchy are "the pygmy lords", direct descendants of the furtive pygmy who found the dark soul. they are the kings and queens of humanity by birthright and generally have the most powerful, most pure dark soul fragments dwelling in them.
the implication of manus being "primeval" is that he was one of the first humans. that means he must either be the furtive pygmy, or one of their direct descendants, one of their family that was the first imbued with the dark soul.
this is further emphasized with his name, "manus", which means "hand" and is the root word for "man" and "mankind".
whoever manus was, he would've been immensely respected in his day, so him being buried in a special gravesite molded out of the stone with massive stone pillars marking it actually makes a lot of sense.
it also makes sense that humanity would stop burying their dead that way, since with the advent the age of fire, gwyn begins sealing the dark soul within the darksign, meaning the magical ability to use the dark soul to mold the stone and construct the specialized stone pillars would've been lost. cultural shifts away from worshipping the dark and into worshipping fire also mean that humans would've lost their desire to bury their nobility in special places or special ways, since the nobility contained more dark soul and thus would've become more and more disliked as gwyn took control of the world.
I don't think Gwyn created the darksign until the fire started to fade. It was his backup plan to insure that _someone_ would always try to link the fire and never allow it to fully fade.
@@Greywander87 the ringed knight set says he branded the human knights after the war with the dragons, and one of the dragon-head shields says that humanity's heroics went unsung because gwyn feared their power.
that is long, long before the fire started to fade.
@@Yal_Rathol Very nice rebutal.
Latin "manus" has no relation to the word man, which is from the PIE root *mon-. It bears a similarity to the root *men- meaning "to think".
@@PlatinumAltaria manus's etymological roots are hotly contested, so i dunno how you could say for certain what PIE root term it comes from.
The beginning of something truly monumental
Really excellent
Ain't no falling leaves telling this story!
This almost sounds like an inverse of the locust preacher from dark souls 3: "Fear not the fire, my friend, and let the feast, begin"
Elizabeth is the thread that holds all of this together, she even has ties to the Lands Between ❤
She what
@@jeeBisOkay exactly
This egskizo theory again??
And Hallownest
@@allthe1 true
Hi ! Loving your vids !
Here's an addition to your theorie from the Izalith's Staff from Dark souls 3 :
"Ancient catalyst of the Witch of Izalith and her daughters, used long before the dawn of chaos and of pyromancy.
With the birth of the Chaos Flame, the flame witches were at once both sorcerers and shamans. Faith adjusts the power of sorceries cast using this catalyst, and the staff also seems to boost the power of dark sorceries.
Skill: Steady Chant
Boost the strength of sorceries for a very short period. Works while equipped in either hand."
So in fact, before the fire, religious people were shamans, and because there was no First Flame and pyromancy and because humanity came from the Dark, thus they use Dark spells (dark sorcery to be precise, like Manus) like this staff is indicating. I always found it strange (when i played DS3) for the Witch of Izalith to use dark sorceries before using pyromancies but this is their heritage, the heritage of all Humanity, drawing their power from the Dark before the Dawn and Age of Fire.
Although I've read somewhere that the witches of Izalith are a separate race. And it makes sense. They got a separate great soul and don't give humanity upon death. But the notion of nature/shamanism and humanity being linked is interesting, nice find
When it comes to the circle of statues, the bonfire at the center always felt emblematic of Gywn rather than the flame. In a weird way it is a more metaphorical interpretation of the statue of Gwyn in the ring city. They complete each other. The humanity's draw to the bonfire and the pygmies kneeling to Gwyn. Humanity in Dark Souls wasn't always drawn to the flame the gods bound them to it to control them.
That's can't be right; we know that some pre-flame creatures went up to the flame and found the lord souls. So clearly whatever we were before was attracted to them.
With both the idea that there is a great span of time between the first flame being found, and the different groups being created. And the war with the dragons.
And the revelations given in DS3.
I think there is an easy way to square "manus as furtive pygymy" and the pygmy lords.
After all, Manus could have been the furtive pygmy. But it was the pygmy lords who participated in the war against the dragons.
Manus having died, and been buried in the caves they lived in. Long before the war with the dragons and the age of fire.
Inside the Caves of the land that would eventually become lordran. To be found by Oolacile a long time later.
Oolacile, New Londo, Anor Londo, the Tomb of the Giants, and Izalith. All the places representing the peopole of the fire, and the four lords.
And the ringed city, far away at the end of the world, where the Pygmies would come to live in.
Perhaps the Oolacile Sanctuary represents not just the comemoration of the discovery of Manus, Humanity Sprites, and their attraction to flame.
But perhaps the rediscovery of their nature as beings of the Dark Soul.
This puts an interesting spin on the "Furtive" part of the Furtive Pygmy, and how catastrophic this moment of first contact wound up being
Arguably catastrophic, the cycle of fire and dark appears to be perfectly natural and not overly harmful to humanity. It's harmful to those beings born of light, which humanity are distinctly not.
Here we go!
a fire surrounded by humanity sprites looks like the inverse of the dark sign. maybe the sanctuary commemorates the first time the gods discovered the abyss, which would also be humanity discovering the divine.
I spent the last week and a half bing watching your entire Elden Ring series and it's one of the best things I've ever watched. It changed the way I interpreted the narrative, appreciate the art and stoked my dying, smouldering fire of curiousity.
This is the first video of ta’s that I saw the archaeological reference coming before the explanation! I live in England near Dartmoor and there are a lot of stone circles on the moors, I can specifically think of a stone circle by Gidleigh that has stones looking very much like Manus’ boss room lol
The final excuse I needed to buy the game. Thank you!
Best tip. Dont be afraid to kindle fires and use humanity. Dont hoard it
Don't look nothin' up either! DS1 is really special the first time round
Play blindy, just go with the vibes and good luck!
My advice, don't take any advice.
Tbh, I still think DkS's lore to be more fasinating than ER
Idk. To me it's made retroactively worse because of Dark Souls 3.
I think I find the lore surrounding the world of Elden Ring to be more interesting, but the lore surrounding the narrative of Dark Souls to be more compelling.
@@tl_nik0n353 Actually yes, tbh I think DkS3, while being a great game, felt just like a dumpster of abandoned ideas to me.
@@Gumper30 I felt despite the world and lore of ER being much broader in scale than DkR, it often felt like things were being scaled down to an individual level (probably because of most things that happened pretty much all came from the Marika's family). Whilst DkS to me, is the exact opposite, and like you said, DkS's narrative is a lot more compelling.
@@apophisstr6719 That's odd, because everything about DS lore entirely stems from things Gwyn did.
Both games point to a pre-history before Gwyn and Marika. But the events the games are concerned with are entirely about the actions of these supremely powerful people and the world altering consequences which stem from them.
To me, the games are almost identical except that their metaphorical content has altered as a result of Miyazaki getting older and acquiring different experiences.
DS is smaller in scope and a lot of that reflects the uncertainty of someone learning to cram such a large narrative into a small game.
ER is more confident and willing to take more risks while also being more sympathetic in some ways. It's hard to see Gwyn as anything but a villain. Marika is a bit more gray.
Grateful to see you going back to dark souls; I miss the lore. Love your content!
15:04 there's evidence that Denisovans actually had a burial practice since there was a skull found on a ledge that a lot of evidence says the skull could've only ended up on it via being set by someone/thing.
TA expanding to Dark Souls? You love to see it.
Oh shit we are excavating Lordran!!
Regarding the sanctuary, I think it reflects something Last Protagonist covered in his video on the true nature of humanity in Dark Souls. In the absence of Fire (and thus disparity), humans have no individual existence. When the Fire finally fades, there will be no shadows, only one singular Dark that encompasses and is all. That is why the Dark sprites are drawn to those touched in some way by the Flame.
Oh Hell yes
Dark Souls is my beloved. ER is incredible and amazing and wonderful, but I always come home to Lordran...
I love how you link in game story to real life events. This is my fav channel for Dark Souls history.
that is the problem, he doesnt use ANY info that the GAME itself provides to tell ITS story. he tries to somehow shoehorn in irl lore into elden ring or dark souls, who while take inspiration from irl stuff, have their own stories told INGAME via descriptions, item placement, enemy and enemy placement, etc
he isnt analysing ANYTHING in those videos, he is just doing WIILD speculation that is extremely nonsensical
@@ONobreBabuino The developers of the game were inspired by the real world, and somehow you see it as a bad thing to actually examine that instead of pretending the game is a magic space with no connection to anything else. Video games are constantly referencing the real world, unfortunately most gamers aren't that smart.
@@PlatinumAltariai never denied that the devs use real world inspiration, as we see with the gwyn statue in heide being a falcon because its inspired from the sun god ra, who had a falcon head. my problem with TA's analysis is that he tries to fit in stuff from irl which just doesnt make sense in context of the game
and even still, those irl inspirations are minor and help explain certain parts of the lore, like the gwyn statue thing i mentioned. but to the scale that TA tries to portray it to be, it just doesnt make any sense at all
We've met Dark Souls Manus, now we need to meet Dark Souls Torgo
Bro you and Drewmora (TES lore) are the best lore channels on TH-cam.
Great video as usual. Love to see more about Dark Souls!
I swear you haven't been showing up in my subscriptions. I thought you stopped uploading. Very glad this isn't the case.
It's ironic that the place were the first flame ignited would be were the ringed city was built on top of. Any chance for an analysis on the Cathedral of blue and Lothric how they share these motivs: the headless knight, the wax covered scholar, the priestess and the hunter?
Sounds to me like you should make a video of your own good sir.
The Ringed City was built as far away from the site of the first flame as Anor Londo could manage to travel, no?
@@xbomb87 doesn't Midirs boss Arena look eerily familiar to the place were the first flame burned in the DS1 intro?
More Dark Souls? Heck yeah, I'm here for it.
Great video! Can't wait for more.
Incredible video as always. Nobody does it like TA
Timing is amazing because I’m wrapping up my first Dark Souls 1 playthrough. I’ve completed Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 several times over.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for explaining such a simple yet profoundly fundamental part of the game so clearly. My lord.
You just explained the must fundamental part of the very start of the game. What in the good dang heck is going on with the fire keepers? Besides them being evocative of the Vestals. It feels so obvious now but also so much more meaningful, they're literally living kindling. As is described in game, any sprite can be kindling.
It's funny, I've felt the draw of fire (if you will) this entire time. Every time I played any Dark Souls game I marched right up there and linked the flame. I followed it's light like a moth. Suddenly I want to embrace the dark. =)
And here I thought the story was mostly the poetic Edda and story of Siegund but all of that came much later.
"No other mammal is drawn to fire." - I get the feeling you're not a cat owner...
But jokes aside, this is the dream. The Tarnished Achaeologist is going hollow.
I've always thought that humanity sprites looked like bodies wrapped for burial rituals and that they're ghosts of the original inhabitants who took that shape when arising from their tombs.
amazing writing.
you have a great philosophy of life and it shows in your works
14:50 - I was going to say that, given the Dark Souls historical-cycle by which civilizations are kind of buried under other, newer kingdoms, it's possible the stone circle and grave weren't located in a cave at the time it was built.
Wow. This is my favorite channel on TH-cam.
It's very astounding how Souls games are very focused on the story they are trying to tell and its themes, and because of it they still convey so much about both their world and ours. Writing and game design at an incredibly high level, puts even the best of other games to shame.
I’ve only played Bloodborne and Elden Ring - but this might push me to play Dark Souls too to keep up
You definitely should. The original Dark Souls is still something quite special.
Please do!
Can never get enough of Dark Souls lore.
Darksouls 1 has been out for 27 years and I just learned a new thing about it.
Wild!
What
Bless you TA for sharing your vast knowledge and wisdom with us
I'm recognizing a lot of pre-historic architecture in the finger ruins of elden ring, coincidentally being near the shaman village. also i forgot how beautiful the atmosphere of the first dark souls is, which only elden ring could replicate. genuinely feel like a realistic completely alien society.
That thing, give it to me. Your unhinged archeological analysis of Dark Souls.
Was hoping you'd cover dark souls
2:49 I was about to look up what that word means😂
Awww yeah, something to listen to about my favorite game series while not much to do at work!
While no megalithic stone circles have been found in caves, ritual circles likely used by Neanderthal were found in Bruniquel Cave in France!
Amazing video once again, bravo!
Big ups to From Software for their commitment to worldbuilding
I’m interested in where this goes. There is definitely some interpretation going on that is different than many agreed upon DS lore theorists. That being said, DS lore is less rigid than Elden Ring’s lore and lends itself better to other interpretations.
Here we go
4:28 "gween and his knights"
24:19 "the central porn of orientation"
Oh God, down the rabbit hole we go. Bring it!
Time to stop whatever i was doing before and watch this
24:17 🤨
I really dig your content and fully believe that you're one of the greats with regards to souls-lore. That said, my heart sinks every time I see something that isn't Elden Ring.
Youd have your mind blown when you realize the fog across all games comes from demon souls & the ending to that. Even having many archeological connections to Ancients who created the divine towers. Its mind boggling
WOOOOOO!!! Yeah, baby! That's what I've been waiting for!
Great video ☀️
Just when I thought I was getting over my Souls´ obsession, I guess I'm going straight back it. :D
The exception, that prove the rule is one of the most badly used expression in existence. It really means something else
At least for me, the statues in the sanctuary remind me of Kurgan stelae.
Very interesting
Excited
4:02 among us. 😳
I’ve always wandered why writing took so long to develop relatively speaking.
By 10/15, please leave marika in the dust.
Not a Fromsoft game, but a video on the Shadow of the Collusus would be awesome
Those ps3 textures are harder to analyze than a 2000 year old Egyptian mural.
I love your videos so much, thank you
Had to rub my eyes and do a double take. The title alone made it move
I find it a bit of a leap in logic to assume the Humanity Sprites have always been in the Chasm of the Abyss. free-roaming Humanity is an oddity, it is something within humans and typically small, and i think it is a sign of the Humanity running rampant that disembodies humanity sprites of such size roam around in the abyss.
Things like this are why I don't like the Demon's Souls remaster. Great game, etc. but with the changes to the textures, the designs of the zones, even the soundtrack, Bluepoint didn't just alter FromSoft's intent. They altered the game's story and lore. Where FromSoft puts intent behind their creative choices, they would mix materials and architectures from different histories to make a point. Meanwhile, Bluepoint turned a defense outpost that had just succumbed to undeath to a gothic castle that has been abandoned for centuries. The remake looks amazing, it's beautiful, it sounds great. But it changed the story. And I don't like it. Lot's of talk about wanting a Bloodborne remaster - I want one too... but I don't want it, if it would be like the Demon's Souls one.
A Bearer of the Curse has linked the Throne of Want
Seek seek lest.
@@rainbowkrampus weak!!
Men are props on the stage of life. No matter how tender, how esquit, A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE!
Honeyyyyyyy he dropped another one!
BABE WAKE UP!
T.A. JUST DROPPED A DARK SOULS LORE VIDEO!
Lol, stone age Shamans. I wonder how many times Miyazaki has taken mushrooms?
@5:20 prehistory doesnt really exist between mythology and history - its before both of them. Prehistory - the time in which humans lived, loved, believed in different gods, told different stories - makes up so much more of humans time on this planet.
Yet so many people follow gods we made up just a few millenia ago
Most commonly known mythologies come from the same rough time period as modern religions, as the recording of myths was facilitated by the spread of writing, which was closely followed by the spread of religion.
I'd never seen the Jomon megalithic structures. Nice.
Kinda lame since I did study their ceramics. I guess it's a lesson to lift your head up from time to time and look at your surroundings.
Wait, are we already done with Elden Ring's DLC? That is sad.
Gwynosaurus Rex
It's weird how every Fromsoft game is somehow about cosmic horrors and beings beyond human understanding
The real world is about fear of the unknown, video games are no different.
Wake up babe, new Tarnished Archeologist video just dropped.
I AM ALIVE, SO LUCKY TO BE HERE ON THIS DAY
This is cinema 🗿
a Yes the Hollow Achaeologist
another banger. just perfect
Okay so either I wait a month for the next ER video, or I buy Dark Souls trilogy to watch this
Welp, fav youtuber now. Been true for a bit, but def the case. Thanks man.
(Folks: Gameplus Alchemist imo the best under rated loretuber)
Dark souls is the 🐐
Minor point/reaction to the end of the vid.
Being drawn to the light and all... Who said we are born from the dark? Not saying that person is wrong or anything like that - just wondering if he ever followed/extended the line of thought: "we are drawn to the light... I wonder if that means we're actually born from the light, not the dark?"
Just flows more sensibly to me.
🙂
The Pygmy race in Dark Souls is the precursor to the humans of the world.
The Pygmys rose, as all life did, when Fire existed, creating a duality in everything.
So truly humanity in the Souls series contains this duality of Fire and Darkness... But humanity came into being because the Furtive Pygmy discovered the titular Dark Soul and in that was, all of humankind in these games is born of the Dark.
@@jimbo_13 Roger that. I was more commenting on IRL beliefs about "humanity" in general, but thank you.
@@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike Humanities are fragments of the Dark Soul, one of the four Lord Souls that were found in the First Flame. The other three would thus be called the Light Soul, the Life Soul and the Death Soul. A unique property of the Dark Soul is that it's imperishable. Darkness can never truly end once defined, thus humanity is eternal. When Light, Life and Death are gone, only Dark will remain.
LETS GO
If this comment gets 20 likes I will buy Dark Souls 3 and all the DLC, play them and tell no one about it. Why? Just because.
Bro i hope this gets 20 likes, im at the end of the game rn for the first time and its been really worth it
If you don’t get 20 I’m making burner accounts and liking this
44 likes, you're playing it twice buddy
@@vmod3985 AFK buying it tonight.
@@holmes9787 AFK to victory.
Great video, but I have to point out a potential source of misunderstanding in the information you provided. It is widely agreed upon that homosapiens have been around for about 300k - 160k years. While you did not specify "homosapiens have been around "800k years" I feel that clarity is necessary and also that Manus or "primordial man" may specifically be a reference to our evolutionary ancestors.
Very good
"Shalmon"
TA you are my hero
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That's what we all have been waiting for