The Joker's Wild 1969 second pilot - Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- Here's something quite interesting to see. It's the second unsold Joker's Wild pilot from Janurary 1969!
Now, this is almost exactly like the first pilot (which mtiller2006 posted quite a while ago) with Allen Ludden hosting and a different scoring format, but this time, there are no celebrities asking the questions, which honestly made the format less confusing to me for some reason. Also, this was taped in COLOR!
You can tell this is from early 1969 too; look how little the contestants know about space early on in the game!
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Crazy...Bob Barker nearly hosted this instead of Price because Price really wanted Dennis James as host of the daytime Price. But his agent convinced him to go to Price so James got nighttime Price. Then Tom Kennedy, Wink Martindale, and Allen Ludden were JW hosting hopefuls but all had commitments to other shows. All of that led the way to Jack being host.
Actually, it was Bud Grant, CBS's head of daytime programming, that talked Barker into doing TPIR.
I LOVE ALLEN LUDDEN
Wink couldn't do Joker's Wild because he had Gambit premiering the same day. Allen had Password on ABC, and Tom Kennedy had Split Second. It may be that CBS had to let Jack Barry host because there weren't any other hosts left.
I love Allen's comment...
"Pull the handle slowly, or you'll break the machine! It's not a Corvette y'know!!
God this is awkward and awful
I'm actually glad this pilot didn't sell when it was made. Jack Barry really needed the intervening few years to refine the format into a better form. The scoring system is interesting, but it doesn't really feel like it fits this show, and as great as Allen usually is, I don't think he was the right fit for this show either. He probably would have done better with the format from the aired series, but overall, the feeling I get when I watch this pilot is one that something just feels off about the entire show.
As I said at the outset, it's better that this pilot didn't sell and Jack Barry used the next three years to refine it. It went through a fairly dramatic evolution between this pilot and its premiere - changing from this format to The Honeymoon Game to the 3-player local KTLA version in 1971 to the aired series - and I think we got it in its best form when it finally did make it to air. I think that had this pilot or The Honeymoon Game sold, it would have failed and not lasted very long. This show really is a good study in keeping up work on something until you get it right.
This is terrific. Thanks!
Game where knowledge is king and lady luck is queen!!
People were skeptical about Jack Barry hosting the show when it premiered on CBS but he ended up doing it as Alan Ludden was hosting a revival of Password for ABC at the time and all of Barry's other first options like Tom Kennedy, Wink Martindale and Bob Barker were hosting Split Second, Gambit and The Price Is Right respectively. Thankfully Barry was able to host it with no complaints and his career became a success again.
Thanks so much for posting this, you rock.
Three Jokers is an automatic win.
I like the fact this pilot is in color, but I don't like the point system they are using. When was this taped? Interesting find,
The guys contestant was writing a book about Nixon's career. Just four years later it's over.
the joker's-wild is a jack-barry production in a association with the cbs television-network cbs recorded in studio-21 @ television-city hollywood-california © 1969
Looking at the slate in the beginning, would I be correct in assuming that the "H" in the CBS symbol means Hollywood (given the show was taped there)?
C'mon people, you should have been paying attention to Walter Cronkite back then, especially when Apollo 11 and 12 were landing on the Moon. Also, it seems like the first challenger pulled the lever a little too hard; harbinger of "You broke our wheel!" in the late 1970's.
I 'm just impressed that that theme is from 1969. The 1960s had a rapid evolution of music. There's no way they would have ahad a theme song like this just 5 years earlier.
Absolutely. I've always marveled at the rapid maturing of music from 1965 to 1970.
I'd be willing to bet that the "contestants" are actually staff members.
@Hondo20132 Considering that the panelists' desk is still present (you can see parts of it in wide shots), I'd agree. Specifically, CLEB's could be pronounced "Celebs"; hence, "No Celebs".
Considering this was a dress rehearsal and "The Honeymoon Game" (1970) used the "living categories" format, it's possible that the format seen here wasn't meant to actually be the one pitched to CBS...although it certainly flowed better and ended up being slightly reworked into the one we all know.
"A WILD CARD!!!!'
$1,000 in gasoline was worth about $300 or so back in 1969. Now it would be worth around $4,000. My how times have changed.
Alan scared the shit out of them with his RIGHT!
Allen was selling the catagories being random really hard.
@PanAmPatrick Actually he was hosting the version of "Password" that was on ABC at the time.
@BARNEYFATSWALT Wasn't Jack calling them "wild cards" in the earlier episodes of the actual series?
Charles looks a little like Mel Gibson!!
You don't want maid service? "No, i have a wife"... Wow
The rules used in this pilot sems to be a combination of the "classic",Jack Barry Joker's Wild, and, the short lived syndicated version hosted by Pat Finn. Probably didn't sell because people associated Allen Ludden with Password, not a Q&A game witha gimmick.
And of course the recent jokers wild with snoop dogg.
500 million miles? wow.
What I like to know is if you got a pair or triple could you just take 1 question instead of taking 2 or 3
Matt Shroyer you’d only play for one point though because then you wouldn’t have a pair anymore.
who is the announcer
Sounds like the same announcer they had on the final color season of "Password" on CBS... Lee Vines, I believe?
Bryce Lozier Yes, it was.
The savers-Perrey and Kingsley
The scoring system kinda reminds me of a certain other show Mr. Ludden hosted. Nah, couldn't have been Password...;-)
Lee Vines is the announcer.
Allen-ludden (mr. betty-white).
its wierd seeing Allan Ludden in anything besides Password
I don't think he would have done well if this had sold. He was much better apt to emcee an easy going game like Password.
Win one game and you must leave the show !!!!!!!!!!!!!! One and done, I guess back in 1969.
Don’t like the scoring system in this pilot glad they went the original scoring and single question...
Well since Allen says "Lee" :)
The announcer is Lee Vines, who was Allen's announcer for the final few years of Password, both in New York and Hollywood.
James Bond was "double-0- 0- 7"? LOL
VTR is 1/5/69.
*facepalm* Dude, really?
I nsee why the contestants skipped baseball. In 1969, baseball was losin its popularity to football. You can thank the Super Bowl and the AFL-NFL merger for that. ;-)
Baseball was still the #1 sport in 1969 and remained such in reality until the 1994 strike. Now, baseball is actually THIRD behind the NFL and the NBA.
500 million miles? Wow...
@PanAmPatrick Actually he was hosting the version of "Password" that was on ABC at the time.
Actually, that version of "Password" did not start on ABC until 1971. The old CBS version was I believe airing in syndication at the time in repeats.