My dealer did not know this either. In the manual for the B2650 if you lock the brake on the PTO will operate. This lets you run a chipper. There is a micro switch which operates with the break lock that lets the PTO operate. I also used this switch to operate a light in the dash so I don't forget to unlock the brake. I know we have all done this
Thank you so much for the thorough comparison of both the B2650 and LX series. I've been in the market for the B2650 for a while, and when we finally were ready to pull the trigger, I was disheartened to hear it had been discontinued. We went ahead and got the LX2610 coming, but I was still a bit uneasy that it was effectively a flashy B2601 model. This did make me feel a bit better bout going with the LX. Thanks for the great head to head overview!
I dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know a tool to log back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Yahir Lyle i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I have a 2016 BX 25DLB! I love it! Hydraulic Snowplow/Dozer blade ,rubber feet on backhoe,night LED flood lights, weight box, third valve, 2019 Grapple!
I have the outgoing B3350 Cab, at first I had many issues with what I thought was the emissions. Turns out my stalling issue was something like a slug that must have dropped into the fuel tank and would intermittently plug the fuel line, I still need to locate or make a strainer for the filler neck. Second problem is I wasn’t running RPM above 2000 when running backhoe, resulting in regen issues and inability to start. Since running above 2000 I have not had to regen during or after backhoe use. Seat safety switch is sensitive and would cut motor when bouncing up and down, removed connector and jumped it to stay on all times. Treddel pedal safety switch intermittently would cause a no restart problem, keep it lubed up and wiggle it then try to start again. At the end of the day I don’t think the b3350 is as bad as they say because 75% of my problems we caused by things you would see on any Kubota with same parts. I still fear the regen especially during use but much less now that I know how and when I can tolerate the process.
My local rental company bought new B2650s couple years ago and I rented it at 30 hours. 1 year later rented it again at 1650 hours and still looks and functions great. You have a great machine there Chief.
I went to the local Kubota dealer a couple weeks ago hoping for some explanation of the various compact models & got nothing of the sort. In fact he made it even more confusing as the salesman even gave me an (old/outdated) B2650/B3350 brochure not mentioning those models are seemingly no longer made so I was left wondering what the difference between a BXX50 and an LX is which you so kindly answered.. Not such a warm fuzzy & I'd likely never buy a tractor from them. He basically pointed to a BX and said this is what you need (it may be) although I really like the physical size of the B (aka "small B") series and indicated I wanted something larger. You cleared up some confusion - Thanks!
As to the weight of these LX tractor's I just got a LX2610HSD with the large R4'S loaded with RimGuard. A 60" bucket on the loader and Cheap Tarter 6' back blade it weights 3555 pounds
I love your videos they are very helpful. I have a question, I have a B2650 and the other day I went and got some diesel for it at a new station and I didn't notice until I filled the cans that the diesel had that def fluid in it is it safe for me to use this in my B2650? I filled 2 5 gallon cans. Thanks Ken
@@MessicksEquip When you do re-roof, you need to put a good roof under that one, then the old shingles over top just so we don't miss out on the comments
Another great, informative video, Neill!!! So, it would still be accurate to say the Standard L series is the more capable machine regarding loader capacity?
I’m interested in knowing why as a shopper I would or should buy the SU model over the L2501 or vice versa. I hope that gets addressed as it’s not very clear how these two models overlap and how they differ in regards to user application.
H Phillips That is Max weight cap and max lift heigh. L series lift higher, also l series have more lift down at the bottom of the loader lift curve, and they are build about 2X as strong. I have a B2650 myself and never really noticed the difference in loafers until they are side by side. B50 loader is more similar to a bx loader. L loader and mounting brackets are a lot beefier
Great vid Neil... question... You mentioned a larger tire on the LX2610SU model than the more deluxe models have ( "an inch higher and two inches wider" ) at 6:20 - 6:48. This appears to be an R4 tread, what is the tire size you're referring to? I'm considering an SU purchase very soon... thanks for a quick answer!
The Lx2610 will it take the Curtis cab from the 2650 now?? And does the front snowblower work on the Lx2610 ?? Didn’t know if I needed the mid pto for the snowblower?? Please let me know before I make a costly mistake of buying the wrong model lx2610 or lx2610su. Thank you
Hey Neil, have you had any customers complain about the swift-tach setup on the LX series? I had both sides of the loader cone off (separate times) rather violently. One of those times smashed the side of the hood. I had to get the top pins back from the dealer and put them back in. In my opinion this loader/tractor is too heavy for that style of pawl. Both times mine pooped off from simply driving across the field. My assumption is the geometry us off, and the weight bounces just right to allow those pawls to unload and slip.
I've not heard anything, there have been no service bulletins about it either. If it was a problem their safety police would be all over it. Is it possible the paws where not fully engaged?
@@MessicksEquip No, they were fully engaged. My dealer was able to recreate the issue and took a bunch of pictures to send off to corporate. I will say that the loader is MUCH more rigid and solid feeling with pins in.
If I remember correctly you can rub dish soap on pans before you cook on a camp fire and you can wipe the soot right off the pan. You can try that with the loader. Or just wax it and buff or clay bar every so often to remove.
I installed a 45 degree angle piece of radiator hose to direct the exhaust away from the loader, works great and the exhaust hasn't damaged the hose at all.
Neil - great video! Quick question...will the B2782b front snowblower, sub-frame, and PTO shaft from a cabbed B2650 also work on the new cabbed LX2610? Thanks!
Why on the new lx series did they change the pins on the loaders? The 50 series seems stronger with the pins going through collars with a bolt holding it.
I want to replace the bent grill guard on my B2650. I think you said the new one on the LX model is a replacement option. I cannot find the part for sale anywhere. Would any dealer be able to order it?
So Mr. Neil, I was gonna trade my 60hr L3301 for a cab bx3350. I bought it for our farm, love the power, love the size....but i desperately need a/c. Figured the 3350 would still run my 72'' finish mower, and blade. But the LX3310 would be what I'm after now? Would dealers possibly be discounting the 3350's maybe in time?....Don't guess the 525 loader off the L series would go on these either huh? Dang I wish I could have a beer with you.....So inexperienced with so many questions lol.
@@MessicksEquip The title says LX 2610 and you showed the LX 3310, I am assuming the difference is just the horse power so any of the extras would apply to the 2610 as well and seeing as how it's a whole new line there is barely a difference at all but I'm in the process of buying one of the last B2650's on the lot so I have a slight bias.
Dose kubota make a tractor with a total width of 5.5’ or less with a factory cab? I’m looking for something for mowing about 20 acres of Christmas trees, a cab would make it a much easier job
I bet Tractor Time with Tim will see this and tell all his viewers that the Deere 3E series is way better than the Kubota B, L or LX series in every way.
Neil. What is your advice to those that live at high elevation? I’m at 8,000 feet and am in the process of shopping for a tractor. I’ve basically settled on the LX3310 because of the turbo and the efficiency at altitude it gives. I will be doing some PTO work, but mostly loader and backhoe. I hate the idea of paying for 26 hp and only getting about 18-20. Anyway, what would you recommend?
That's a big yard, there's a million places he could video. But always in front of that particular building with that roof. I'm guessing it's part of the fun now, and Neil's telling the guys "you can't fix that roof, half my views are just people coming to complain about it."
Man!! Kubota should give you a percentage for advertising! You are good!
My dealer did not know this either. In the manual for the B2650 if you lock the brake on the PTO will operate. This lets you run a chipper.
There is a micro switch which operates with the break lock that lets the PTO operate. I also used this switch to operate a light in the dash so I don't forget to unlock the brake. I know we have all done this
You really can’t beat the B2650. I’ve got one on 20 acres and it does everything I need it to!
Thank you so much for the thorough comparison of both the B2650 and LX series. I've been in the market for the B2650 for a while, and when we finally were ready to pull the trigger, I was disheartened to hear it had been discontinued. We went ahead and got the LX2610 coming, but I was still a bit uneasy that it was effectively a flashy B2601 model. This did make me feel a bit better bout going with the LX. Thanks for the great head to head overview!
@Hank Jalen Nope, no one gives a damn 🤷🏼♂️
I dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Gatlin Arturo instablaster =)
@Yahir Lyle i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Yahir Lyle it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy!
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I have a 2016 BX 25DLB! I love it!
Hydraulic Snowplow/Dozer blade ,rubber feet on backhoe,night LED flood lights, weight box, third valve, 2019 Grapple!
Your roof needs a little love, Neil! 😂
Use the Kubota!
I have the outgoing B3350 Cab, at first I had many issues with what I thought was the emissions. Turns out my stalling issue was something like a slug that must have dropped into the fuel tank and would intermittently plug the fuel line, I still need to locate or make a strainer for the filler neck. Second problem is I wasn’t running RPM above 2000 when running backhoe, resulting in regen issues and inability to start. Since running above 2000 I have not had to regen during or after backhoe use. Seat safety switch is sensitive and would cut motor when bouncing up and down, removed connector and jumped it to stay on all times. Treddel pedal safety switch intermittently would cause a no restart problem, keep it lubed up and wiggle it then try to start again.
At the end of the day I don’t think the b3350 is as bad as they say because 75% of my problems we caused by things you would see on any Kubota with same parts.
I still fear the regen especially during use but much less now that I know how and when I can tolerate the process.
I've got a 2017 B2650 and LOVE It... ';-)
My local rental company bought new B2650s couple years ago and I rented it at 30 hours. 1 year later rented it again at 1650 hours and still looks and functions great. You have a great machine there Chief.
Great video, Neil. Awesome info!
“Unique emissions system”. Nice way of saying it was bad!
I thought the emissions system was only on 30 hp and above
@@woofdog4219 it’s on tractors 26 horse power and over. It’s not fun, especially on trucks.
I like to think of the BX as a smaller B, and the LX as a smaller L. At least, that’s how I explained it to Jackie.
I went to the local Kubota dealer a couple weeks ago hoping for some explanation of the various compact models & got nothing of the sort. In fact he made it even more confusing as the salesman even gave me an (old/outdated) B2650/B3350 brochure not mentioning those models are seemingly no longer made so I was left wondering what the difference between a BXX50 and an LX is which you so kindly answered.. Not such a warm fuzzy & I'd likely never buy a tractor from them. He basically pointed to a BX and said this is what you need (it may be) although I really like the physical size of the B (aka "small B") series and indicated I wanted something larger. You cleared up some confusion - Thanks!
I've been waiting for this video!
Also have a 2017 B2650, couldn't ask for better 👍🏻
Just wish my dealer could get one in. You guys ship?
Do you think that you could do a interior video of the LX3310 cab tractor to show the room in there?
Why Don't you care for auto leveling in dirt work.? Construction equipment has had it for 50 years
As to the weight of these LX tractor's I just got a LX2610HSD with the large R4'S loaded with RimGuard. A 60" bucket on the loader and Cheap Tarter 6' back blade it weights 3555 pounds
Can you drive the LX with a belly or three point lawn mower on a septic field?
It looks like not enough clearance for tire chains; a common problem on many new tractors. I plow snow on the side of a mountain. Chains are a must.
I love your videos they are very helpful. I have a question, I have a B2650 and the other day I went and got some diesel for it at a new station and I didn't notice until I filled the cans that the diesel had that def fluid in it is it safe for me to use this in my B2650? I filled 2 5 gallon cans. Thanks Ken
diesel and def do not mix, ever. Its doubtful thats what you saw. If it was bio-diesel, that's fine to run at < 10% concentration.
@@MessicksEquip i went back to the station and the def has a separate hose on the front of the pump so you are correct . Thank you for replying
What size of tires are on the SU model you were reviewing?
Is the lx 2601 lower 3 point adjustable arm the same as the b2601 arms. I’d like to have the adjustable arms for my b2601.
Great video but I really came for the 'roof' comments.
Me too 😀
@@MessicksEquip When you do re-roof, you need to put a good roof under that one, then the old shingles over top just so we don't miss out on the comments
@@paullambert2668 I think I need to make a video specifically about the roof.
Does the LX series have a very loud whining to it and is it slower than the B series?
No and no
Another great, informative video, Neill!!!
So, it would still be accurate to say the Standard L series is the more capable machine regarding loader capacity?
Yes. Video coming up shortly about exactly that
L2501 has 525 loader and the b50 has 534 loader. I must be missing something but it appears the b50 is rated 9 kg more lifting
I’m interested in knowing why as a shopper I would or should buy the SU model over the L2501 or vice versa. I hope that gets addressed as it’s not very clear how these two models overlap and how they differ in regards to user application.
at the same lift height the l2501 will lift more, but l2501 lifts higher, the lift rating is at max height
H Phillips
That is Max weight cap and max lift heigh.
L series lift higher, also l series have more lift down at the bottom of the loader lift curve, and they are build about 2X as strong.
I have a B2650 myself and never really noticed the difference in loafers until they are side by side. B50 loader is more similar to a bx loader. L loader and mounting brackets are a lot beefier
Or do you have any B3350’s (with cab) still in stock?
No
Messick's Equipment so do you ship to Indiana (for a new LX3310 cab, mid mower, loader?
I like them both, but I have no need to go larger at this time 🙁
DPF and fuel tank on top of hood gross seat does looks sweet though
Great vid Neil... question... You mentioned a larger tire on the LX2610SU model than the more deluxe models have ( "an inch higher and two inches wider" ) at 6:20 - 6:48. This appears to be an R4 tread, what is the tire size you're referring to? I'm considering an SU purchase very soon... thanks for a quick answer!
R4 and R14 both are available upsized.
The Lx2610 will it take the Curtis cab from the 2650 now?? And does the front snowblower work on the Lx2610 ?? Didn’t know if I needed the mid pto for the snowblower?? Please let me know before I make a costly mistake of buying the wrong model lx2610 or lx2610su. Thank you
Hey Neil, have you had any customers complain about the swift-tach setup on the LX series? I had both sides of the loader cone off (separate times) rather violently. One of those times smashed the side of the hood. I had to get the top pins back from the dealer and put them back in. In my opinion this loader/tractor is too heavy for that style of pawl. Both times mine pooped off from simply driving across the field. My assumption is the geometry us off, and the weight bounces just right to allow those pawls to unload and slip.
I've not heard anything, there have been no service bulletins about it either. If it was a problem their safety police would be all over it. Is it possible the paws where not fully engaged?
@@MessicksEquip No, they were fully engaged. My dealer was able to recreate the issue and took a bunch of pictures to send off to corporate. I will say that the loader is MUCH more rigid and solid feeling with pins in.
When are they going to change to a more comfortable 2 pedal hydro i hate the angle the single pedal puts on your foot.
hopefully never. A majority of people prefer it.
Kabota lost me at the kids teeter tottle pedal
In an essence. Keep your old things. I have 2009 L3400 and it has done a lot. Pig compost pile to everything else
Neil is it possible to get the LX 2610 with the larger front 25x8.5-14 R14 and the smaller rear 14-17.5 R14? Does this impact gearing? Thanks.
Any advice on keeping all the soot off the loader? Maybe spray it when its clean with some coating or wax?
You don't mention what tractor you have, but if it's a B2650, check this out. www.specialtyrepairscustommods.com/b2650-exhaust-extension
If you keep on it, Lemon Pledge takes it right off
If I remember correctly you can rub dish soap on pans before you cook on a camp fire and you can wipe the soot right off the pan. You can try that with the loader. Or just wax it and buff or clay bar every so often to remove.
I installed a 45 degree angle piece of radiator hose to direct the exhaust away from the loader, works great and the exhaust hasn't damaged the hose at all.
That hood scoop is embarrassing. Looks like the engineers bought it on amazon.
now i am even more confused than ever.i thought i wanted a b2601 but now i have no clue.
Your selling me on a Kubota just went to my local dealer to kick the tires. They showed me B2601? Whats difference between version01 to 50?
Neil - great video! Quick question...will the B2782b front snowblower, sub-frame, and PTO shaft from a cabbed B2650 also work on the new cabbed LX2610? Thanks!
Not 100 sure, but I believe so
Neil,
Will the B2650 with a
60" mmm work with the larger spec "new" R14 tires?
From what I have read, it will not.
Any chance the 3310 will get a SU version as well? Kubota website currently only shows the 2610 getting a SU version.
Does not look like it
Why on the new lx series did they change the pins on the loaders? The 50 series seems stronger with the pins going through collars with a bolt holding it.
Not really, no
I want to replace the bent grill guard on my B2650. I think you said the new one on the LX model is a replacement option. I cannot find the part for sale anywhere. Would any dealer be able to order it?
messicks.com/ku/125645?sectionId=274548&diagramId=934220
when lx 3310 available in india
Dealers here say no more B2650.. Can you still buy or order the B2650 from Kubota?
We have several left, they will phase out
Can cab models have two rear remotes & diverted valve installed for front end loader? Thanks ,
yes
@@MessicksEquip Thanks for your confirming answer and time, Neal !
Hey Neil, are you saying the new LX brush guard is a direct fit onto my 2017 B2650? I hope so, because I like it.
Should be
The LX3310 seat looks more comfortable than my B2650 seat. Will it fit on my B2650?
Yes
Messick's Equipment Thanks. How much is the LX seat and do you have one in stock?
$845
messicks.com/search?q=TD350-47704
Does a B2601 come in a geared transmission and if so how much does it run?
See B2401
Does Kubota make any models geared transmission?
@@ericposey3782 several, B2401 being on the them
To get a 25 hp tractor what do I need to stick with and yes I want it geared?
@@ericposey3782 B2401 or L2501
So Mr. Neil, I was gonna trade my 60hr L3301 for a cab bx3350. I bought it for our farm, love the power, love the size....but i desperately need a/c. Figured the 3350 would still run my 72'' finish mower, and blade. But the LX3310 would be what I'm after now? Would dealers possibly be discounting the 3350's maybe in time?....Don't guess the 525 loader off the L series would go on these either huh? Dang I wish I could have a beer with you.....So inexperienced with so many questions lol.
Yes, the LX is the new model
One thing that is strange is when dealer's dont tell you the price...
Video has wrong title he's talking and showing different models than what title says
? Not sure what your seeing?
@@MessicksEquip The title says LX 2610 and you showed the LX 3310, I am assuming the difference is just the horse power so any of the extras would apply to the 2610 as well and seeing as how it's a whole new line there is barely a difference at all but I'm in the process of buying one of the last B2650's on the lot so I have a slight bias.
@@MessicksEquip The title says LX2610 but the video shows the LX3310
Dose kubota make a tractor with a total width of 5.5’ or less with a factory cab? I’m looking for something for mowing about 20 acres of Christmas trees, a cab would make it a much easier job
Yes, these are both under 5' with the right tire setup.
LX with cab & 60” or 72” mid mount mower
I bet Tractor Time with Tim will see this and tell all his viewers that the Deere 3E series is way better than the Kubota B, L or LX series in every way.
Who? 🙈😂🙄
I think Tim just bought a LX3310.
Messicks needs to spend some money and fix that roof! I always worry about a service company that does not keep its own facility properly maintained.
As my non emissions tractor continues to increase in value...
So is the B2650 being discontinued and being replaced by the LX2610 or is this just filling a gap btw B & L?
B2650 is replaced
That house behind you really needs new shingles! (Sorry, I'm a home inspector!)
"Hall-monitor" grown up.
that's not a house, that's his business.
Neil. What is your advice to those that live at high elevation? I’m at 8,000 feet and am in the process of shopping for a tractor. I’ve basically settled on the LX3310 because of the turbo and the efficiency at altitude it gives. I will be doing some PTO work, but mostly loader and backhoe. I hate the idea of paying for 26 hp and only getting about 18-20. Anyway, what would you recommend?
Buy the 3310
The lx 3310 has the l engine othervthan that the lx series is identical to the b series with different hood
How come you have a 3310 and not a 2610 and 2601 , I don't get this comparison
Can't beat Kubota's.
Lol millions in inventory and you can’t spend a few grand to fix the roof.
He does tractors - not roofs....focusing on whats important. Start your own farm equipment company and you can have a perfect roof.
@@ottohonkala6861 idk its a business and if the place looks like shit.... if they cant fix the roof do you think there gonna fix your tractor...
FishFind3000 lefty
That's a big yard, there's a million places he could video. But always in front of that particular building with that roof. I'm guessing it's part of the fun now, and Neil's telling the guys "you can't fix that roof, half my views are just people coming to complain about it."
It gets people to comment, which is good for the channel.
you get on with your bad self Neil!
I’m going to need new decals for my b2650 🤣
talk about the 3200.
I never found B01 vs B50 so confusing.
01 was standard, 50 was deluxe
BTW, I know a good roofer!
Still waiting on that tax write off 🙃🙃🙃
On paper, the hydraulics on the LX2610 and 3310 are identical. Practically, do both models have the same hydraulic lift capabilities?
Yes
The B series was still made in Japan, dunno about the LX. . . Give me the Japan made unit.
both are made in Japan.
Wait! What!? No more B series??!!
No more of the “bigger” b series. The B2301 and B2601 will still be around.
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