Sorry if you touched on this and I missed it, but what happens in the off chance that you’re IP without the RA and your opponent donk bets you? Is it raise your best hands and draws, call most everything and fold the trash?
That is a 3b calling range vs a gto bot not a human player. Your 3b calling range changes depending how aggressive your opponent is post flop. And then if they are aggressive and 3b to much you can start putting in 4b range and whether they call fold or shove you have to adjust accordingly. The solver is only solving vs what you are putting in as ranges. If your playing a nit who doesn't 3b a lot those 3b calling ranges are going to make you lose a lot of money vs that player. And most players these days are pretty nitty. The ranges are only that wide based on what he thinks their 3b range is. But again johnathan does't play cash games enough to know what ranges are for typical grinder in 2024. They are in general pretty tight and few laggy players but not as many cause they are trying to beat the rake using tighter ranges.
Hope this reaches you .. I think it’s important to point out that as you move up in stakes it doesn’t mean that all the players get better . It mostly just means they have bigger bank roles . I believe most of the tighter players are playing in the lower and mid stakes . You don’t have to grind as hard or it won’t seem as hard because people with bigger bankrolls give more action more times than not
Yep, I made it through. Your previous book has finally arrived Mr L! Looking forward to getting your latest one too, but stock in Australia seems limited.
Great video kinda rough but you have to make the sacrifice if you want to improve thank you and all your team for the time yall spent helping us improve and thumbs up 👍 keep up the great work
I love this lesson! ❤ Thank you for the excellent and informative content! Having the GTO solver charts is very helpful. And, I really like how you go through and explain them in detail.
Ranges is nothing but a group of hands that someone (probably) has. Instead of thinking he has to have aces you need to think of a group of hands he could possibly have according to how the hand has played out so far and that players tendencies. Don’t overthink it cause there’s nothing to overthink. I used to not get it either just like everyone. Just think of what group of hands should be played in a certain spot unless the guy is aggro and that’s a range 🤷♂️ easy peasy. Kinda lol.
I had the same struggle. Eventually I realized it was logic more than anything. utg opening range is so tight because you are out of position and you want to have higher strength cards than your opponents before the flop. If you only play monsters utg you are in better shape than if you play anything and try to bluff high card flops, because it's likely that your opponents have a better starting hand than you. If you have aces and 3 bet and get 4 bet, you could assume they have KK or QQ, but you're dominating. If you 3 bet UTG with JJ and get 4 bet by someone in position, they most likely have KK QQ or AA. Obviously anyone can hit or miss the flop but at least knowing range and position gives you some information rather than just going by luck or feel.
@pokercoaching why are my SB 3bet vs. button from GTO wizard so different and much more linear? my ranges are like A4s+, ATo+, KJo+ K7s+, Q9s+ and 3 betting about 14.4% of hands... im using cash ranges for 75-50 bb but the ranges quite different..
Looking at the 3-bet range for SB when button raises to 2.2, why are K7s and K6s always 3Bets? Is it to mix up the range? If so, I'd expect to 3bet those hands some portion of the time like K9s. Also does the range change vs something like the HJ vs the button?
If the flop is Ks2h3h which percentage of 45s will you bet? Only the 45h? This is unclear to me and also why; i think 45 is a nice hand to continue with.
I keep thinking about a recent 3 bet flop I was in where I was the caller of the huge 3 bet, In the BB, w A Q suited. Flop comes Q 8 4 rainbow. SB bets half pot, I call. Then he 3x pots the turn on a brick. He had pocket 8s. I called pre-flop, the flop, and then shoved for a little bit more on top of his bet on the turn. What should I have done?
I think 3x pot (depending on what exactly the game is and what types of people are playing) is either a set, AQ or a pure bluff. I think i would fold sometimes but make the call most of the times with AQ. Stack sizes and ITM considerations might make me lean more towards one or the other side, but i just started playing so please do not roast me 😅
But then there are many combos with a queen ypu are ahead of so i would say its still a call often because otherwise youre gonna get bluffed off your hand quite often
How would you all handle a monotone flop with same configuration as Jonathan uses (heads up OOP w/o RA like at 44:15) and you hold AsKd in the SB but flop comes Qh9h3h? Had this spot recently. Checked. Folded to a 1/2 pot size bet from a normal reg on the BTN. Nitty or the right thing to do?
I'd lead small, like 20-33%, cuz we have that Ah and Kh nut advantage and hope to just take it down there. I dont ever want to chk-call here, so ima go for it w the cbet. If I don't cbet? I feel like I'm surrendering the pot right there...Boom, you win. I 3bet pre and aired the flop, i give up. Which is fine, sometimes, but I'm going to at least try here..
Jonathan, In online micro stakes tournaments i usually get pretty far and usually have a big stack. But in cash games I do horrible...😢 I do good in Sit n Go's also but my cash game sucks. I realized that I win more against players in tournaments because i have more fold equity in some spots and i apply lots of pressure. I guess im just better in tournaments and should take advantage of that. If i can beat micro stakes tournaments online, are live $100 tournaments beatable as well? I'd assume they play the same as online micro stakes tournaments
Generally the online pool is better than the live player pool. I would maybe go scout a tournament and see how they play. I only play cash games, so I wouldn't be able to tell you anything about tournaments, but 1/2 cash players are about equivalent to 5 or 10NL players online. The frustrating part about those games is the players are so passive, that you will have a hard time getting paid. They can be quite sticky and stationy though, so sometimes you can get paid. I would be willing to put a lot of money on the bet that... You would likely have an easier time convincing some of those players to allow you to pull one of their teeth with pliers than it is to get them to willingly put money in the pot.
@@jeffshackleford3152depends on the table, sometimes it’s people who just want to give their money away at 1/2 😂 once I flopped quads and this 18 year old goes all in with KQ into a board of 3/3/3 😂
I’m at the level where i don’t even know all the terminology you are using. What is 3-bet? What is ‘out of position’? I know lots of the terms but not all of them.
The order of betting is Raise, reraise, 3 bet, 4 bet etc… It’s just the number in which they bet. I was confused when I first heard it too. Out of position is typically the person who is betting first. For example if you have the dealer chip you will typically be in position cause you bet later than most players.
I made a grave mistake yesterday Teach. I had 10C7C Villain had AKo I had over 700K He had over 900K Blinds are 7k/14k I'm utg+2 I raise to 32k Everyone folds to the button who 3bets to 75k SB & BB fold I call Flop was 10D 3C 5S I raise 50k He calls Turn was 4C I check He raises 125k *I CALLED* 😮💨 River is 2D *I SHOVE* 🤮 *He calls and turns over his AKo* This hand is haunting me 😢
I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell does range advantage do against someone who doesn't know the first thing about ranges or just doesn't care about GTO.
I have recently finished reading Jonathan's 'Mastering Small Stakes Hold'em' and 'Live No-limit Cash Games' and I can't recommend them highly enough. Especially, the 'Small Stakes' book as that is the game I play the most. I'm playing the best poker of my life, so I can't say fairer than that. Thank you.
I believe he’s one of the best for sure. You can tell he really wants us to win. He’s VERY passionate about training and it shows. He is my new go to Polk used to be. 👍🏼 I shouldn’t say new cause it’s been a minute but with bad health atm I haven’t been able to play but got some money coming and enough for a br so I will be grinding soon.
Thanks Jonathan. Joining PC Premium has dramatically helped cut my learning curve down. High suggested to anyone, regardless of knowledge base, newbie or seasoned vet
Hi Jonathon I have seen in other videos and on your charts online that usually you say to either three bet in the SB or fold but in this scenario you had a calling range and three bet polarized. Is it because of the 60bb stack size or is this video assuming there is an ante? The chart I usually study is the 100bb cash game.
great video, cashed my biggest online cash last week for 6,3k and wanted to say that your videos have been a big help and have improved my game significantly! Much love from germany
Where do you see the bet size? You keep saying "this says pot size, shove, half pot etc., but it doesn't say thay anywhere. It just Says "Bet 512"... what the heck is a bet 512? 41:53
In the beginning of the video he says "just put a decimal before the last number" So bet 512 becomes bet 51.2 aka all in. I'm 7 months late and I can't be bothered to find the time stamp
One of your best Jonathan - thank you very much! Great content - sorry it took me so long to get to it. And your darn funny throughout, maybe sometimes not intentional - but I find humor in your exaggerations. Thanks again.
I had a movie hand today 4way allin after flop 2 players with flush draws nut one and jack high one guy with nut str8 and one with top set. Nut flush won it was James Bond hand Cash game six max
Hi, i will like a video of how to combine poker with family, how you do it, i have 3 kids and a job, but poker is my passion, i go once a week or twice to play cash, but tournaments are too difficult to participate because of the time
In many scenarios it's GTO to bet big with total junk. Is that because we're unblocking the vilain's middle strength hands? On AJ9r I guess a 9 might fold, but probably all J and A continue, as well as some draws?
I don't know holdem that well, but generally in information games, you bet big with nothing to get your opponent to call you when you bet big and have something. Basically, you disguise your great hands.
Thanks Jonathan for the free content i just finish your tournement Masterclass and i always like to learn more and your Free youtube content are just perfect with my morning coffee Thanks for everything can't wait for the next one
What is your favorite hand to 3-bet preflop?
AA😂
AA baby
Q9s
Depending on position too
AA
Sorry if you touched on this and I missed it, but what happens in the off chance that you’re IP without the RA and your opponent donk bets you? Is it raise your best hands and draws, call most everything and fold the trash?
The BTN calling range agains the SB was an eye-opening moment for me. Thank you Jonathan!
That is a 3b calling range vs a gto bot not a human player. Your 3b calling range changes depending how aggressive your opponent is post flop. And then if they are aggressive and 3b to much you can start putting in 4b range and whether they call fold or shove you have to adjust accordingly. The solver is only solving vs what you are putting in as ranges. If your playing a nit who doesn't 3b a lot those 3b calling ranges are going to make you lose a lot of money vs that player. And most players these days are pretty nitty. The ranges are only that wide based on what he thinks their 3b range is. But again johnathan does't play cash games enough to know what ranges are for typical grinder in 2024. They are in general pretty tight and few laggy players but not as many cause they are trying to beat the rake using tighter ranges.
Hope this reaches you .. I think it’s important to point out that as you move up in stakes it doesn’t mean that all the players get better . It mostly just means they have bigger bank roles . I believe most of the tighter players are playing in the lower and mid stakes . You don’t have to grind as hard or it won’t seem as hard because people with bigger bankrolls give more action more times than not
Thank you Jonathan. Need more post flop videos like this
Pre flop is so easy. Understand the odds and follow the charts. Play you're range. Standard bet size. That's it.
@@ImperiumLibertas that’s why I said “post flop” 🤣
@@comcast9216yeah someone needs to take a reading class which to me is super easy 🤣
Yep, I made it through. Your previous book has finally arrived Mr L!
Looking forward to getting your latest one too, but stock in Australia seems limited.
What book? Ty
Great video kinda rough but you have to make the sacrifice if you want to improve thank you and all your team for the time yall spent helping us improve and thumbs up 👍 keep up the great work
After you told me to put on my adult pants, I knew it was too easy. Good stuff.
This is exactly the video I needed right now!
Thank you! Found out I get run over when i check back flop IP as 3bettor. Time to plug the leak!
I love this lesson! ❤ Thank you for the excellent and informative content! Having the GTO solver charts is very helpful. And, I really like how you go through and explain them in detail.
It would be cool if there was more of a visual representation of the cards
This all makes perfect sense to me as you brilliantly explain it. But how do i start to LEARN it?
Learn what? Things like range advantage? You can use equity calculators and study
It's hard to get started if you don't know where to look. How to know if a program is good or not etc?
Thank you Jonathan. Wish I had an “Ah ha “ moment when discussing ranges. Not there yet!
Ranges is nothing but a group of hands that someone (probably) has. Instead of thinking he has to have aces you need to think of a group of hands he could possibly have according to how the hand has played out so far and that players tendencies. Don’t overthink it cause there’s nothing to overthink. I used to not get it either just like everyone. Just think of what group of hands should be played in a certain spot unless the guy is aggro and that’s a range 🤷♂️ easy peasy. Kinda lol.
I had the same struggle. Eventually I realized it was logic more than anything. utg opening range is so tight because you are out of position and you want to have higher strength cards than your opponents before the flop. If you only play monsters utg you are in better shape than if you play anything and try to bluff high card flops, because it's likely that your opponents have a better starting hand than you. If you have aces and 3 bet and get 4 bet, you could assume they have KK or QQ, but you're dominating. If you 3 bet UTG with JJ and get 4 bet by someone in position, they most likely have KK QQ or AA. Obviously anyone can hit or miss the flop but at least knowing range and position gives you some information rather than just going by luck or feel.
Doing a cross country Donkey Tour I was able to watch the entire video .. Excellent work here Sir
Congrats on your recent PokerGo Cup Win.
@pokercoaching why are my SB 3bet vs. button from GTO wizard so different and much more linear? my ranges are like A4s+, ATo+, KJo+ K7s+, Q9s+ and 3 betting about 14.4% of hands... im using cash ranges for 75-50 bb but the ranges quite different..
Now we need to know the turn and river for 3 bet pot when they call 😅
Great teacher
Looking at the 3-bet range for SB when button raises to 2.2, why are K7s and K6s always 3Bets? Is it to mix up the range? If so, I'd expect to 3bet those hands some portion of the time like K9s. Also does the range change vs something like the HJ vs the button?
If the flop is Ks2h3h which percentage of 45s will you bet? Only the 45h? This is unclear to me and also why; i think 45 is a nice hand to continue with.
I keep thinking about a recent 3 bet flop I was in where I was the caller of the huge 3 bet, In the BB, w A Q suited. Flop comes Q 8 4 rainbow. SB bets half pot, I call. Then he 3x pots the turn on a brick. He had pocket 8s. I called pre-flop, the flop, and then shoved for a little bit more on top of his bet on the turn. What should I have done?
I think 3x pot (depending on what exactly the game is and what types of people are playing) is either a set, AQ or a pure bluff. I think i would fold sometimes but make the call most of the times with AQ. Stack sizes and ITM considerations might make me lean more towards one or the other side, but i just started playing so please do not roast me 😅
He might randomly have some suited 2 pairs like Q8s but pretty rarely
Assuming the 3 bet was very big as you said i think a set, AQ or overpairs are the most likely to be shown
But then there are many combos with a queen ypu are ahead of so i would say its still a call often because otherwise youre gonna get bluffed off your hand quite often
Easy.
_Play it like a set_
- Tony G... probably
I didn't understood why Js-7h-3s is bad for our range when Ts-6h-3d is good. it's because of the flush draw? so Ts-6h-3s would be bad?
Yes I believe it’s because of the flush draw and potential back door straights.
How would you all handle a monotone flop with same configuration as Jonathan uses (heads up OOP w/o RA like at 44:15) and you hold AsKd in the SB but flop comes Qh9h3h? Had this spot recently. Checked. Folded to a 1/2 pot size bet from a normal reg on the BTN. Nitty or the right thing to do?
I'd lead small, like 20-33%, cuz we have that Ah and Kh nut advantage and hope to just take it down there. I dont ever want to chk-call here, so ima go for it w the cbet. If I don't cbet? I feel like I'm surrendering the pot right there...Boom, you win. I 3bet pre and aired the flop, i give up. Which is fine, sometimes, but I'm going to at least try here..
You were the OOP bettor or caller?
From what I understand OOP would rather 4 bet then call.
IP is more likely to flat.
Jonathan, In online micro stakes tournaments i usually get pretty far and usually have a big stack. But in cash games I do horrible...😢
I do good in Sit n Go's also but my cash game sucks. I realized that I win more against players in tournaments because i have more fold equity in some spots and i apply lots of pressure. I guess im just better in tournaments and should take advantage of that.
If i can beat micro stakes tournaments online, are live $100 tournaments beatable as well? I'd assume they play the same as online micro stakes tournaments
Generally the online pool is better than the live player pool.
I would maybe go scout a tournament and see how they play.
I only play cash games, so I wouldn't be able to tell you anything about tournaments, but 1/2 cash players are about equivalent to 5 or 10NL players online.
The frustrating part about those games is the players are so passive, that you will have a hard time getting paid.
They can be quite sticky and stationy though, so sometimes you can get paid.
I would be willing to put a lot of money on the bet that...
You would likely have an easier time convincing some of those players to allow you to pull one of their teeth with pliers than it is to get them to willingly put money in the pot.
@@jeffshackleford3152depends on the table, sometimes it’s people who just want to give their money away at 1/2 😂 once I flopped quads and this 18 year old goes all in with KQ into a board of 3/3/3 😂
Jonathan u been skiing lately? 😎
thanks coach
You're welcome!
Is there situation where you dont c bet flop HU oop?
Good video
I’m at the level where i don’t even know all the terminology you are using. What is 3-bet? What is ‘out of position’? I know lots of the terms but not all of them.
The order of betting is Raise, reraise, 3 bet, 4 bet etc… It’s just the number in which they bet. I was confused when I first heard it too. Out of position is typically the person who is betting first. For example if you have the dealer chip you will typically be in position cause you bet later than most players.
@@joshuabradley2105 so the person to the right of the dealer is out of position?
@@_GandalfTheGrey_ the person to the right of the dealer is only out of position relative to the dealer but in position to those In front of him.
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I made a grave mistake yesterday Teach.
I had 10C7C
Villain had AKo
I had over 700K
He had over 900K
Blinds are 7k/14k
I'm utg+2 I raise to 32k
Everyone folds to the button who 3bets to 75k
SB & BB fold
I call
Flop was 10D 3C 5S
I raise 50k
He calls
Turn was 4C
I check He raises 125k
*I CALLED* 😮💨
River is 2D
*I SHOVE* 🤮
*He calls and turns over his AKo*
This hand is haunting me 😢
Take max advantage of being uncapped
Nice-J 10 s
Hello
Hey. I don't want any problems. 😂😂😂
Bringing Jamie Gold on board is a big mistake, big mistake
Not sure what my opening comment range should be when the youtuber puts me under the gun.
i m still awake :)
I am awake
I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell does range advantage do against someone who doesn't know the first thing about ranges or just doesn't care about GTO.
I wonder this myself
This ranges don’t help in 1/2 games and against bad players there no ranges there haha
Its your job to find out what range they got.
You save money & fold, multi-way. Heads up? Stab occasionally, but don't get crazy auto-stabbing. That's it, don't overthink it.
I have recently finished reading Jonathan's 'Mastering Small Stakes Hold'em' and 'Live No-limit Cash Games' and I can't recommend them highly enough. Especially, the 'Small Stakes' book as that is the game I play the most. I'm playing the best poker of my life, so I can't say fairer than that. Thank you.
Where can I read those?
@@whosRickyy I purchased both books from Amazon. I've recouped the price of purchase many times over.
I believe he’s one of the best for sure. You can tell he really wants us to win. He’s VERY passionate about training and it shows. He is my new go to Polk used to be. 👍🏼 I shouldn’t say new cause it’s been a minute but with bad health atm I haven’t been able to play but got some money coming and enough for a br so I will be grinding soon.
Thanks Jonathan. Joining PC Premium has dramatically helped cut my learning curve down. High suggested to anyone, regardless of knowledge base, newbie or seasoned vet
❤
Which contents on poker coaching do you teach the same topic but for deeper stacks like 100BB/200BB?
You seem like a class act....how'd you get involved with the degenerates (poker players)?
I don't really understand how we can be without the range advantage if we 3-bet and our opponent called?
Always learning from shared experiences, thanks Jonathan❣️
This is huge issue for me
Loved this video! I learned a lot. Thanks!
Hi Jonathon I have seen in other videos and on your charts online that usually you say to either three bet in the SB or fold but in this scenario you had a calling range and three bet polarized. Is it because of the 60bb stack size or is this video assuming there is an ante? The chart I usually study is the 100bb cash game.
Adding an ante and no rake changes strategies a lot.
great video, cashed my biggest online cash last week for 6,3k and wanted to say that your videos have been a big help and have improved my game significantly! Much love from germany
Congratulations!! I'm so glad I could help 🎉
ty
You're welcome
Where do you see the bet size? You keep saying "this says pot size, shove, half pot etc., but it doesn't say thay anywhere. It just Says "Bet 512"... what the heck is a bet 512? 41:53
In the beginning of the video he says "just put a decimal before the last number" So bet 512 becomes bet 51.2 aka all in. I'm 7 months late and I can't be bothered to find the time stamp
One of your best Jonathan - thank you very much! Great content - sorry it took me so long to get to it. And your darn funny throughout, maybe sometimes not intentional - but I find humor in your exaggerations. Thanks again.
I had a movie hand today 4way allin after flop 2 players with flush draws nut one and jack high one guy with nut str8 and one with top set. Nut flush won it was James Bond hand Cash game six max
Hi, i will like a video of how to combine poker with family, how you do it, i have 3 kids and a job, but poker is my passion, i go once a week or twice to play cash, but tournaments are too difficult to participate because of the time
@PokerCoaching on 6:39 shows that SC (54s,65s,76s etc) should range bet on flop BUT previously these hands are not in the BTN 3bet range.
Curious how this compares to an MTT with similar effective stacks
Giggling at all the talk of the king highs getting naughty 🤭
Dont use guns, people can misunderstand haha
JK
Why is A3s at 11:31 for the LJ a higher 3-bet than A4s and A2s?
what are those combo below bet meaning?
Hi 👋 nice nice content 😊
This is really helpful. Thanks!
hello
In many scenarios it's GTO to bet big with total junk. Is that because we're unblocking the vilain's middle strength hands? On AJ9r I guess a 9 might fold, but probably all J and A continue, as well as some draws?
I don't know holdem that well, but generally in information games, you bet big with nothing to get your opponent to call you when you bet big and have something. Basically, you disguise your great hands.
Thanks Jonathan for the free content i just finish your tournement Masterclass and i always like to learn more and your Free youtube content are just perfect with my morning coffee
Thanks for everything can't wait for the next one