@@Veltrosstho while circumcision is wrong on any unwilling person, the usual methods of FGM are undeniably more severe and brutal than what most people think of when they hear “circumcision.”
I was born into a happy joy joy Jesus cult. We where supposed to forgive and suffer for others, that would make us holy. So when I was 7 the drummer of the cult band tried to rape me, they told me to forgive him and do nothing about it. It still took me till I was 16 to get out. When I left I lost all my friends and family. I am still in therapy after 32 years now for depression and s-thoughts because of that.
Controlling someone's diet is a huge facet of a lot of cults. My parents particular strain of Q-anon nonsense includes the keto diet, which they tried to force me on as a kid. If you aren't epileptic or diabetic that diet is super harmful.
I was part of Pagan cult once, around 10 years ago. Never a fully inducted member, although they were unique in that they weren't accepting just any Pagan. You had to be thoroughly vetted by their top echelon to have a chance, which was dominated by pseudo-scholars who might have had an extensive knowledge of mythology coupled with a cursory knowledge of corresponding regional and cultural history. I attended weekly potlucks at one of their houses, and a sort of open forum held at a local coffee shop on Wednesdays. I thought I found someplace where I belonged, but I was able to glean that I wasn't dedicating enough time by the standards of the upper echelon (a term I've coined myself, and not what they were actually called). The thing about all of these people is that most of them came from highly conservative Christian families from birth and were later ostracised. This cult was their new family, and I actually stood out by being on relatively good terms with my own Parents. I never knew if they were self aware enough to realize that they'd become exactly what they were ousted from, to begin with. Only the organization and narrative changed. The final straw for me? After all of that, one of the upper echelon interrupted a conversation I was having with her boyfriend and kicked me out of the room where the weekly forum was held. They can have their private conversation in a private setting, for all I care. I wasn't going to be treated like that. So I walked away. I knew that they tried to contact me again, but I never answered the phone. It was the only time they ever used my number. The actual leader even went to one of my friend's houses to ask how I was doing, which was a diversion tactic on his part; my friend and I were mutual acquaintances of him, and I'm sure he was trying to make himself look better. Be that as it may, it ended a very brief chapter of my life with a much needed lesson.
The circle of abuse isn't easy to break for some. Most people are unaware of the circular nature of it, not understanding how victims end up hurting others the same way, or fall into repeating patterns. I always avoid groups that are too welcoming towards others. They give affection immediately to make you dependent, then withhold it when you do something they don't like: Lovebombing. Walking away like you did shows strength of character.
There's a place in the Bible that said you can in that case where you're being abused and it isn't normal to be in a position like that. People do fall in the spirit in a pentecostal church only there's a fine line between genuinely doing that and actually doing that in a religious way like what happened in that one church and a couple others. Makeup is okay in a normal church only there are some that think it's a jezebel spirit as well
I realised I was in a cult (at least by birth) I was about 7 and my school and Sunday school teachers were making statements that were obviously false. By the time I was 11, I just refused to take part and waited it out. As far as cults go, the Church of England is a pretty minor one but it's just a question of degree. Like the blurred line you get when asking creationists to identify primate skulls between apes and humans, one man's cult is another's religion.
I was raised pentecostal, and why yes, I do believe in God, can't full bring myself into pentecostal beliefs. Big into speaking into tongues and the day of Tribulations. It's just hard to wrap my beliefs around some things. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to get it off my chest.
I was born in Utah, which has a specific christian-adjacent major presence. That was interesting. Made my self-sacrificial tendencies super bad and I had no spine until most of the way until highschool. At least I was able to interact with people “outside the faith” without consequences from my relatively liberal parents
@@sarahanderson136 I live in Utah, it's awful here. The major thing I've noticed is that literally every middle/high school has it's own seminary building and that a lot of politicians here too happen to be mormon.
@@bombdotcom2168 my parents, while I was a kid, were Mormon but also trying to be chill about it? I had to attend all church anything, including early morning seminary, but they didn’t make me ignore “worldly” people at least
I grew up with heavy Mormon influence growing up, and a mom who was heavily into all kinds of weird religions. Modesty, medicine, overall existence- every single thought I had was scrutinized. Even as I got older, my grandma began to threaten that I'd go to hell for all kinds of things from sleeping in to not cleaning my plate. There were even times that she told me I would never be in heaven with my dad because he's not biologically my father, and that the only way I could be with him in heaven was if I was sealed to him in the temple. That always gave me such a gross feeling given the Mormon belief of women being sealed to their husbands. It wasn't nearly as bad as the cults spoken of here, but the damage it left on me lasted a long time
I would like more episodes of these, especially about the odd evangelist or radical Christian cults that they think they are the way and only way and speaking in tongues,i want to hear about people leaving, it makes me feel more sane about leaving it myself recently, way less guilty. I wish there was more people opening about that y'know
If they hell they talk about is real, you'd 100% take that back once you're there On the other hand, I think it's all bullshit anyway, with only the one life we know for a fact exists. With that in mind, I'd rather live honorably along with you in this one life.
The difference between a religion and a cult is that, in a cult, the dude at the top knows its all fake, but in a religion that dude has died and everyone has just gone on with the whole thing without stopping.
@12:00 sounds like JW... On the matter of "going to hell because of blablabla" I wonder why no one ever tells people that we actually live in hell. Dunno about other modern religions but bible doesn't say a single word about existence some underwolrd that would be hell. But it does say that God gave earth to Satan to rule over it. That makes it clear that if you are believing christian then you born and live in hell. Also there isn't a single word about purgatory in the bible to it is another bullshit story made up along the way...
1 thing most people seem to forget: all major religions ARE cults! Very big ones, but cults nontheless. Nothing against that in itself, but let me tell you 1 thing about it: If you need to force members to stay, then your pathetic "God" isn't worthy! End of discussion, finish, the end! A true god doesn't need pathetic fanatics to get a following, doesn't need violence and intimidation to keep believers and most important: Does NOT need his/her/its followers to punish nonbelievers! In all honesty how pathetic, shameful, desperate and weak must your "god" be that he needs his followers to harass (or worse) everyone who is leaving? Answer: So pathetic that even the lowest of demons laugh about them. If your "god" is worth anything then followers come to join by their own free will, if not then your "god" isn't worthy! Before anybody's playing that card: I am in fact NOT an Atheist, but I can accept other beliefs that don't worship mine, believe in who or what you want but don't force it on others!
Good was missing. I realized when I was a child that all religions are "cults that win." Once I graduated law school and worked out some things, I started noticing some of my behavior was based on trauma. Part of that was "religious trauma." The religion I was in was trying to push political ideologies and attempts to justify war. To me, the love of Jesus is everywhere. If Jesus is love, no war can be justified. Good seems to get in the way of religious goals, but good-this world-should win. We are all here now. That made me leave. These people, to me, are now Lazy A-Holes, not working for the good of the human race.
After studying multiple cults and most major corporations I can honestly say that corporate America is more of a cult than most registered cults.
Yep. Definitely meets the secrecy requirements lol
No divorce is a rule made up by abusive men to keep women from running away from their psycho husbands
The “physical changes” referred to in the first story is Female Genital Mutilation, which is pretty horrific.
Something something circumcision
Something something circumcision.
@@Veltrosstho while circumcision is wrong on any unwilling person, the usual methods of FGM are undeniably more severe and brutal than what most people think of when they hear “circumcision.”
Thank you for elaborating, I'm going to go dry heave now
I was born into a happy joy joy Jesus cult. We where supposed to forgive and suffer for others, that would make us holy. So when I was 7 the drummer of the cult band tried to rape me, they told me to forgive him and do nothing about it. It still took me till I was 16 to get out. When I left I lost all my friends and family. I am still in therapy after 32 years now for depression and s-thoughts because of that.
I am so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are doing well, what a toxic mindset the other members had about that situation.
That’s such bullshit “forgiveness” doesn’t mean not letting the law punish someone for when they break it!
No matter how bad things get, remember that on your knees is still standing. You're doing well, hang on in there.
When they made me the high appraised leader. And I had no clue what the f**k we do or believe.
As a non-American it never ceases to amaze me how many small cult towns there are in the USA.
as an American it never ceases to amaze me how many whole ass countries follow the "because I said so" rule and never even question it.
Statistically speaking it's not surprising, we have a lot of towns, most of which you never hear about.
When my small town’s catechism school’s teachers got busted having, ‘key parties!’…. It was a big scandal!…. 😂
I am waiting for the day when stories on this questions would be "I was raised by Vegans".
Because some Vegans treat there diet as a cult.
Controlling someone's diet is a huge facet of a lot of cults. My parents particular strain of Q-anon nonsense includes the keto diet, which they tried to force me on as a kid. If you aren't epileptic or diabetic that diet is super harmful.
@@stinky-smelly Or you try to loose weight. Like Keto is for that the best. Even I am thinking of starting it because the last 30 cm of fat.
@@Auriorium keto is not good for you lol. I lost weight in adulthood by eating intuitively, getting a dietician and loving my body
@@stinky-smelly Nah I am already lost XD so trying keto is the nail in the proverbial coffin XD
Nothing to do with the stories but finished the DLC, about 2 weeks ago, very fun, strange that they made GOW into a rouge like!
The first story had my legit concerned until they said goats, and that made me mad. 😂
I was part of Pagan cult once, around 10 years ago. Never a fully inducted member, although they were unique in that they weren't accepting just any Pagan. You had to be thoroughly vetted by their top echelon to have a chance, which was dominated by pseudo-scholars who might have had an extensive knowledge of mythology coupled with a cursory knowledge of corresponding regional and cultural history.
I attended weekly potlucks at one of their houses, and a sort of open forum held at a local coffee shop on Wednesdays. I thought I found someplace where I belonged, but I was able to glean that I wasn't dedicating enough time by the standards of the upper echelon (a term I've coined myself, and not what they were actually called). The thing about all of these people is that most of them came from highly conservative Christian families from birth and were later ostracised. This cult was their new family, and I actually stood out by being on relatively good terms with my own Parents.
I never knew if they were self aware enough to realize that they'd become exactly what they were ousted from, to begin with. Only the organization and narrative changed. The final straw for me? After all of that, one of the upper echelon interrupted a conversation I was having with her boyfriend and kicked me out of the room where the weekly forum was held.
They can have their private conversation in a private setting, for all I care. I wasn't going to be treated like that. So I walked away. I knew that they tried to contact me again, but I never answered the phone. It was the only time they ever used my number. The actual leader even went to one of my friend's houses to ask how I was doing, which was a diversion tactic on his part; my friend and I were mutual acquaintances of him, and I'm sure he was trying to make himself look better.
Be that as it may, it ended a very brief chapter of my life with a much needed lesson.
The circle of abuse isn't easy to break for some. Most people are unaware of the circular nature of it, not understanding how victims end up hurting others the same way, or fall into repeating patterns.
I always avoid groups that are too welcoming towards others. They give affection immediately to make you dependent, then withhold it when you do something they don't like: Lovebombing. Walking away like you did shows strength of character.
There's a place in the Bible that said you can in that case where you're being abused and it isn't normal to be in a position like that. People do fall in the spirit in a pentecostal church only there's a fine line between genuinely doing that and actually doing that in a religious way like what happened in that one church and a couple others. Makeup is okay in a normal church only there are some that think it's a jezebel spirit as well
I realised I was in a cult (at least by birth) I was about 7 and my school and Sunday school teachers were making statements that were obviously false. By the time I was 11, I just refused to take part and waited it out. As far as cults go, the Church of England is a pretty minor one but it's just a question of degree. Like the blurred line you get when asking creationists to identify primate skulls between apes and humans, one man's cult is another's religion.
I was raised pentecostal, and why yes, I do believe in God, can't full bring myself into pentecostal beliefs. Big into speaking into tongues and the day of Tribulations. It's just hard to wrap my beliefs around some things. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to get it off my chest.
Hope you can solve this in the best way for you.
@@silviac221 thank you.
I was born in Utah, which has a specific christian-adjacent major presence. That was interesting. Made my self-sacrificial tendencies super bad and I had no spine until most of the way until highschool. At least I was able to interact with people “outside the faith” without consequences from my relatively liberal parents
Was it Mormonism or Jehovas whitnesses?
@@bombdotcom2168 Mormon. Utah is full of them, to the point that tenets make their way very obviously into government policy
@@sarahanderson136 I live in Utah, it's awful here. The major thing I've noticed is that literally every middle/high school has it's own seminary building and that a lot of politicians here too happen to be mormon.
@@bombdotcom2168 my parents, while I was a kid, were Mormon but also trying to be chill about it? I had to attend all church anything, including early morning seminary, but they didn’t make me ignore “worldly” people at least
The morty is from the mobile rick and morty game pocket monster
Always be fearful of the abusive sky daddy
Cult
Noun
A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
I grew up with heavy Mormon influence growing up, and a mom who was heavily into all kinds of weird religions. Modesty, medicine, overall existence- every single thought I had was scrutinized. Even as I got older, my grandma began to threaten that I'd go to hell for all kinds of things from sleeping in to not cleaning my plate.
There were even times that she told me I would never be in heaven with my dad because he's not biologically my father, and that the only way I could be with him in heaven was if I was sealed to him in the temple. That always gave me such a gross feeling given the Mormon belief of women being sealed to their husbands.
It wasn't nearly as bad as the cults spoken of here, but the damage it left on me lasted a long time
I would like more episodes of these, especially about the odd evangelist or radical Christian cults that they think they are the way and only way and speaking in tongues,i want to hear about people leaving, it makes me feel more sane about leaving it myself recently, way less guilty. I wish there was more people opening about that y'know
Better to have honor in hell, than enter heaven without it
If they hell they talk about is real, you'd 100% take that back once you're there
On the other hand, I think it's all bullshit anyway, with only the one life we know for a fact exists. With that in mind, I'd rather live honorably along with you in this one life.
isn't speaking in tongues one of the things puritans used as a reason to hunt women during the witch hunts?
Wild!4
The difference between a religion and a cult is that, in a cult, the dude at the top knows its all fake, but in a religion that dude has died and everyone has just gone on with the whole thing without stopping.
In a cult rituals and practices are kept secret, while in a religion they are not. There’s your difference.
Pretty sure most religions are trying to keep child molestation a secret. They are just not doing a good job.
Actually cults commit crimes
what's up, Rogan?
Also, if you are not allowed to ask questions about the beliefs of the group without major backlash, then its most likely a cult.
@12:00 sounds like JW... On the matter of "going to hell because of blablabla" I wonder why no one ever tells people that we actually live in hell. Dunno about other modern religions but bible doesn't say a single word about existence some underwolrd that would be hell. But it does say that God gave earth to Satan to rule over it. That makes it clear that if you are believing christian then you born and live in hell. Also there isn't a single word about purgatory in the bible to it is another bullshit story made up along the way...
1 thing most people seem to forget: all major religions ARE cults! Very big ones, but cults nontheless.
Nothing against that in itself, but let me tell you 1 thing about it: If you need to force members to stay, then your pathetic "God" isn't worthy! End of discussion, finish, the end! A true god doesn't need pathetic fanatics to get a following, doesn't need violence and intimidation to keep believers and most important: Does NOT need his/her/its followers to punish nonbelievers!
In all honesty how pathetic, shameful, desperate and weak must your "god" be that he needs his followers to harass (or worse) everyone who is leaving?
Answer: So pathetic that even the lowest of demons laugh about them. If your "god" is worth anything then followers come to join by their own free will, if not then your "god" isn't worthy!
Before anybody's playing that card: I am in fact NOT an Atheist, but I can accept other beliefs that don't worship mine, believe in who or what you want but don't force it on others!
Good was missing. I realized when I was a child that all religions are "cults that win." Once I graduated law school and worked out some things, I started noticing some of my behavior was based on trauma. Part of that was "religious trauma." The religion I was in was trying to push political ideologies and attempts to justify war.
To me, the love of Jesus is everywhere. If Jesus is love, no war can be justified. Good seems to get in the way of religious goals, but good-this world-should win. We are all here now. That made me leave. These people, to me, are now Lazy A-Holes, not working for the good of the human race.
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@@vinceenad303 delicious
Wanna cake? 🎂
92% of all fgm is reversible. Circumsizions isn't
Back up that first statement with something other than your word.