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I don't know who said this: It is only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a better way to solve the problem without using violence
Indy: "I'm a historian, I know everything." I freaking love it. I just graduated with a Bachelor's in History. This phrase tickles my fancy. I'm going to start using this ironically
What do you actually know about history? Like what do they teach you in college? Or like is it one of those things where you do your own research? I'm genuinely curious. I guess that may change per college you pick too so.... Idk man, I've never been to college. Never intended to either.
@@mr_h831 I was a history major, I was taught a lot about various aspects of history. The exact topics varied by class of course, usually each class would cover a certain section of history; like the history of the Vietnam War, France in the 1600s, 1920s America. Obviously the more in-depth the class the narrower the scope. I also had several classes on how to do research, how to use various resources to find information on topics and how to vet those sources for reliability, how to find biases and conflicting interests, that sort of thing. Overall I thought it was pretty interesting and sometimes even practical.
I've read the Art of War several times, starting as a teenager, and several times as an adult. Every time I've came way with something different. It's well worth the read.
'If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle"
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!" Words to live by. That aside. I've recently started to appreciate the Art of War, and its impact beyond war.
Sun Tzu said that! And I'd say he knows a little more about fighting that you do pal, cause he invented it! And then perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
I remember talking to one of my Sergeants as he asked me what made me value him, and I uttered "'Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death.' You showcase this quote by Sun Tzu, this and that is why I will follow and support you"
"If you spam range and cheese the ennemy, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you spam range but do not cheese the ennemy, for every victory gained, you will also suffer a defeat. If you neither spam range or cheese, you will succumb in every battle." Sun Tzu, Total War Warhammer Tactics on legendary difficulty.
@@vanshkandpal438 Actually, I was doing this cheese back when Legend still claimed he hated Warhammer (when the first one released), it came naturaly to me as the most effective way to fight. But legend is crazy good at macro, I can't do this stuff without some slow motion or pauses like him, so I'll admit he is Warhammer Sun Tzu.
Actually, I feel like Sun Tzu would be more Slaanishy, due to how Slaanesh seeks perfection, so perfecting war would apply more than Khornes brute strength
You should have included the whole story about Sun Tzu and concubines: "Before hiring Sun Tzu, the King of Wu tested Sun Tzu's skills by commanding him to train a harem of 360 concubines into soldiers. Sun Tzu divided them into two companies, appointing the two concubines most favoured by the king as the company commanders. When Sun Tzu first ordered the concubines to face right, they giggled. In response, Sun Tzu said that the general, in this case himself, was responsible for ensuring that soldiers understood the commands given to them. Then, he reiterated the command, and again the concubines giggled. Sun Tzu then ordered the execution of the king's two favoured concubines, to the king's protests. He explained that if the general's soldiers understood their commands but did not obey, it was the fault of the officers. Sun Tzu also said that, once a general was appointed, it was his duty to carry out his mission, even if the king protested. After both concubines were killed, new officers were chosen to replace them. Afterwards, both companies, now well aware of the costs of further frivolity, performed their manoeuvres flawlessly. "
@kristopherprime9837 Well, he didn't win without a fight, so he broke his own rule? Positive reinforcement is shown to work better than punishment. He might have considered that people are competitive, and given each "general" a task with their "troops" to do, and outdo the other group. Then, discussed who "won" and why, and who came in second, and why. Also study what each group did well, or where they need to modify their actions. There is a famous study in education, called the "Hawthorne Effect." Here's an explanation: "The Hawthorne effect is a term referring to the tendency of some people to work harder and perform better when they are participants in an experiment." Or, he could have demoted the giggling generals, made them privates, and put one of the "lesser" concubines as their boss. And I always like "The Dirty Dozen" model, of recognizing that each part must work to achieve a goal. Everyone is important.
Phyrus actually accepted he cant win the war and made peace with the romans after his "victories". He basically acted according to Sun Tzu and accepted the situation: "Dont fight battles and wars you cant win". Then he went back to greece and wanted to conquer more greek poleis to strenghten his domain to maybe go back to kicking roman asses with a stronger power base later on. But then he was hit by a roof tile to the head.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine pretty sure even with a helmet a close range hit from a thrown roof tile could kill you. Helmets back then wherent known for their protection against huge blunt impacts like modern workers helmets. The helmets were designed to weaken the hit of a sword by redirecting its strikibg force towards the side with their shape. Being hit by a tile is more closely to being hit with a war hammer. The blunt impact could kill you with a good angle immidiatly. Helmet or not. Also o e of tje reasons slinhers where very dangerous in ancient times ecen ro heavily armored forces.
@@noobster4779 Sure, he followed him later, but according to Sun Tzu he shouldn't even have started the fighting. Of course afterwards you always know better and you never can be 100% sure of victory.
I have found the more history I read/research the less certain I get. History can get "interesting" when you start looking into contemporary sources... I have read accounts from one battle (Ratan russian landing in Northern Sweden), when reading some Swedish accounts they seem to describd different events, reason for research was that great...grandfather fought there in 1809, He got musket ball in thigh, walked home (100km+ through enemy held teritory in uniform while carrying gun...)
“IF FIGHTING IS SURE TO RESULT IN VICTORY, THEN YOU MUST FIGHT!” SUN TZU SAID THAT! AND I’D SAY HE KNOWS A LITTLE MORE ABOUT FIGHTING THAN YOU DO, PAL, BECAUSE HE INVENTED IT! AND THEN HE PERFECTED IT SO THAT NO MAN CAN BEST HIM IN THE RING OF HONOR! THEN HE USED HIS FIGHT MONEY TO BUY 2 OF EVERY ANIMAL ON EARTH, AND THEN HE HERDED THEM ONTO A BOAT, AND THEN HE BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE! AND FROM THAT DAY FORWARD ANY TIME A BUNCH OF ANIMALS ARE TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE, IT’S CALLED A ZOO! ............ UNLESS IT’S A FARM!
2:52 Sun Bin's life is better known and he was a total badass. He also wrote a "second part" to the Art of War, including a lot of specific tactics and stratagemes.
Anyone noticed that episode 100 should come out arond the time of the 2 years anniversary of Sabaton History (January 2021)? I'm still praying that this episode will be the special we are all waiting for: Sabaton History- Swedish pagans.
I vividly remember hearing this for the first time when I was a kid, having grown up listening to nothing but old rock and Christian worship music, it instantly changed my life and introduced me to metal in general
Actually it was since Qin dynasty. One of the major political figures of Qin - Lisy, a legist, introduced a doctrine of burning all pre-Qin texts. A lot of original editions of classic chinese texts were destroyed. And a lot of forgeries proceeded.
I do have to admit, I only bought the book because of the song. The teachings of Sun Tzu ring true and probably always will. Plus it's just generally a good read, even if you don't plan on going to war or implementing the teachings in your life!
I'm sad that this video missed the most important part of the book. DO NOT GO TO WAR! This is the biggest lesson of the book and practically the first thing mentioned if I remember right. The rest of the book is about what you do if war is unavoidable.
I'm Chinese and I'm so excited about this episode!!! Edit: Also can I just say even as Chinese myself, I find the English version easier to read than the ancient Chinese version XD
@@lylissmorrinz8361 Yeah, normally the Chinese version has both the original ancient text and modernized translation. I'll just go straight to the modernized translation haha
I found about Sun Tzu "The Art of War" in my school history textbook. Unexpected to see it matching with Sabaton History video and my history revision book
I read The Art of War, with commentaries by many Chinese generals. It's an incredibly simple book to understand and go through and it is a pretty quick read. Took me like a week of work breaks to get through. Some parts get a bit stale, but what stuck out most was how direct Sun Tsu is. No flowery language, no beating around the bush just "Do x, get Y." Love it.
Props to the man here for plugging Project Gutenburg. Can't recommend it enough, so many valuable texts available in whatever format you could need for your device. Art of War and The Prince are worth the read.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!" Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that nobody could best him in the ring of honor. Then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth. And then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! Unless it's a farm!
Fun fact: the intro music for each Sabaton History episode is pulled from the "breakdown" near the end of the song "Cliffs of Gallipoli" which is from, you guessed it: The Art of War album. Another fun fact: this is my favorite Sabaton album.
I definitely have and read The Art of War. I also have other books on strategies and tactics as well such as, but not limited to: 33 Strategies of War by Robert Greene, On War by Claus von Clausewitz, Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War by Robert Coram.
I find the most inspiration out of Sun Tzu's Art of War entirely and this philosophy is of great motivation to myself. And that's also why the song "Art of War" is one of my utmost favorite songs. And "Regarding soldiers as your children" are important to me with my support for friends and family as well as the military motifs stated in the book in military studies.
I will run - they will hunt me in vain I will hide - they'll be searching I'll regroup - feign retreat they'll pursue Coup de grâce I will win but never fight That's the Art of War! My favorite album, and my favorite song. Thanx for great show.
I was so excited about this album when it came out. I had a copy of Sun-Tzu on my bookshelf several years before and I loved every second of the album.
"breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting" makes me think of rommel's panzer division behind french lines, as well as that one story where some allied troops made a large group of germans surrender by making them think heavy reinforcements were coming.
Second day of the battle of Gettysburg. Out of ammunition, a Union officer orders bayonet's fixed, and to counter charge the Confederate forces on their next attack. It is _suicidal,_ yet their enemy breaks before them and falls back. Why? Because, the Confederate officers and men, seeing the Union forces charge out of their fortified positions with bayonet's fixed, and knowing they do not want to die any more than themselves, draw the logical conclusion: That the ragged band of men charging them can not _possibly_ be alone, and must have overwhelming reinforcements behind them. That is the historical moment that to me best proves Sun Tzu's logic, to break the enemy's resistance without fighting, will always be valid when your enemy is a sapient being. If your foe wishes to live as much as you do, then they can be broken without fighting, even when fighting will be sure to bring them victory.
Your best album so far absolutely. Please do a followup album where its Niccolo Machivieli's art of war thats being quoted. That would be an awesome album! The art of war is pretty much my favourite song of sabaton for its pure epic value. Whenever I hear it I get like an image in my head of soliders in an medieval setting using it as a PT song (whcih would be great for operational combat. Sometimes when I read about fantasy warriorcultures singing their combat songs about great conflicts I also just get Sabaton lyrics in my head. The book is also great, I got a copy and read it between lunch breaks really good stuff.
I am new to the band and this channel, but I'm loving it. Joakim is quite the character. Indy is pretty cool, too. Thanks for the back story on these songs. Our whole family is learning history in a new way.
Like Sabaton concerts look so hype. Could you please come back to England but like up to Manchester or Liverpool (somewhere nearer me) one day? I would buy a ticket the moment they go live.
what I was looking for today was whether or not the song was based on Sun Tzu's version of "supreme excellence" was ever done in history or not. I doubt that any war could be fought in such a way seeing as it would be seen as nothing more than surrender by the enemy. the closest I can think of for this type of war is the Cold War.
I still want to have you guys put together a audio drama for the art of war. like you guys did with the segment covering how water shapes its course. just do something like that for the ENTIRE book.
The modern application of Sun Tzu's concept of winning by not fighting can be seen in a number of ways. On the highest, geopolitical level, it's the use of sanctions against countries like North Korea...except that hasn't worked because their ally in the Korean War never turned on them and has become a massive exporter of all sorts of goods. At the battlefield level it's concepts like psychological warfare - the intimidation tactics of having a hundred main battle tanks roll onto the battlefield blaring heavy metal from their loudspeakers (yes, I've heard interviews of soldiers where they specifically mention the heavy metal playing from their tanks - supposedly it was meant to shock the people of...Iraq or Afghanistan, I forget which war it was...by being so utterly different from what they listen to) and just being so goddamn terrifying that people give up. Which tends to work better when you're not fighting religious extremists who believe dying in battle brings them to the best afterlife their religion offers. (There may be plenty of examples that have worked splendidly. I don't know them, probably because they worked splendidly and were thus undramatic at the surface level understanding that most people not involved in the event would have.)
My dream is for Sabaton to do the Three Kingdoms era of China. So much ripe content from that time... Liu Bei Cao Cao, Zhuge Liang, the Sun family, the battle of Chi Bi (Red Cliff), FREAKIN LU BU guys
I share that dream with you, sir. I would also delight in Sabaton doing albums about Ancient Rome and the Napoleonic Era. There is just so much to work with in all three of those topics that Sabaton could do justice to. I also think Alexander the Great deserves a Sabaton song. I really like the Iron Maiden song, but I feel history's greatest commander deserves a bit more love and recognition.
@@scipiocorculum I agree 100%, then you can add in figures like Hannibal, Ghenghis Khan, Shaka Zulu, etc. They could do a whole album from the point of view of men who served these great commanders. Would be a totally badass album cause every song would feel like "Sparta" as far as oomph
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The Chinese Art of War by its author Sun Tzu is one of the most influential books in history. Had you heard about it prior to this?
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"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet" - Sun Tzu. That's probably my favourite quote from the book.
Nice one....🤣
“To believe everything on the internet is to believe the lies of everyone as well”
@@michaelrivera2212 yush!
"I didn't say that" - Sun Tzu
the man knew what he was writing about.
I don't know who said this: It is only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a better way to solve the problem without using violence
one of the solutions is wear a pant before it happens. (i guess supreme excellence is this.)
Me, who like the feeling of my balls getting slapped: jokes on you im into that shit
its Confucius , some wise man from ancient China
Nah mate, you just need to learn to use violence, with upmost precision.
What? Wear clothes. And if that's not relevant, learn to have some control of yourself lol. That quote is so bad.
"Remember, switching to your pistol is faster than reloading."
Sun Tzu, "The Art Of War"
-Sun "Soap" Tzu
-Sun "Gaz" Tsu, The Art of War
Indy: "I'm a historian, I know everything."
I freaking love it. I just graduated with a Bachelor's in History. This phrase tickles my fancy. I'm going to start using this ironically
Same here :) Bachelors in history with a German minor.
What do you actually know about history? Like what do they teach you in college? Or like is it one of those things where you do your own research? I'm genuinely curious.
I guess that may change per college you pick too so....
Idk man, I've never been to college. Never intended to either.
@@mr_h831 I know what you mean It seemed I knew more about the topics I was reading more than some of these professors.
@@92bagder Fascinating. Good to know aswell.
@@mr_h831 I was a history major, I was taught a lot about various aspects of history. The exact topics varied by class of course, usually each class would cover a certain section of history; like the history of the Vietnam War, France in the 1600s, 1920s America. Obviously the more in-depth the class the narrower the scope. I also had several classes on how to do research, how to use various resources to find information on topics and how to vet those sources for reliability, how to find biases and conflicting interests, that sort of thing. Overall I thought it was pretty interesting and sometimes even practical.
"All warfare is based." -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
I need to see that in traditional and simplified script before I believe it!
@Zachary Durocher Deception
"You're based, get on my level"- Sun Tzu
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 you can see it at 7:54 lol
Lesson from Osowiec: In the eyes of your enemy pretend to be dead while you are alive.
Nyeh, even "remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer" suits better.
I've read the Art of War several times, starting as a teenager, and several times as an adult. Every time I've came way with something different. It's well worth the read.
I have aswell, actually own four different translations.
"You call that a loss? I've crapped bigger losses than that!" -Sun Tzu said that.
“Stay strapped or get clapped” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
'If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle"
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!"
Words to live by.
That aside. I've recently started to appreciate the Art of War, and its impact beyond war.
Now I remember meet the soldier from tf2
It applies to anything where two people are competing, whether it be for resources, awards, profit, land, affections, etc.
Sun Tzu said that!
And I'd say he knows a little more about fighting that you do pal, cause he invented it!
And then perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
I remember talking to one of my Sergeants as he asked me what made me value him, and I uttered "'Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death.' You showcase this quote by Sun Tzu, this and that is why I will follow and support you"
"If you spam range and cheese the ennemy, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you spam range but do not cheese the ennemy, for every victory gained, you will also suffer a defeat. If you neither spam range or cheese, you will succumb in every battle." Sun Tzu, Total War Warhammer Tactics on legendary difficulty.
legendoftotalwar is sun tzu reincarnate
@@vanshkandpal438 Actually, I was doing this cheese back when Legend still claimed he hated Warhammer (when the first one released), it came naturaly to me as the most effective way to fight. But legend is crazy good at macro, I can't do this stuff without some slow motion or pauses like him, so I'll admit he is Warhammer Sun Tzu.
Imrik Infinite Dragons FTW
@@astranix0198 Imrik in Total War Warhammer 3 after that Drussy
"Blood for the blood God, skulls for the skull throne"
- techno zu
the Emperor disapproves this.
Actually, I feel like Sun Tzu would be more Slaanishy, due to how Slaanesh seeks perfection, so perfecting war would apply more than Khornes brute strength
Bruh spooky pic
I was searching for this comment xD
@@alect525 I'd say he's more of a Tzeenthz
You should have included the whole story about Sun Tzu and concubines:
"Before hiring Sun Tzu, the King of Wu tested Sun Tzu's skills by commanding him to train a harem of 360 concubines into soldiers. Sun Tzu divided them into two companies, appointing the two concubines most favoured by the king as the company commanders. When Sun Tzu first ordered the concubines to face right, they giggled. In response, Sun Tzu said that the general, in this case himself, was responsible for ensuring that soldiers understood the commands given to them. Then, he reiterated the command, and again the concubines giggled. Sun Tzu then ordered the execution of the king's two favoured concubines, to the king's protests. He explained that if the general's soldiers understood their commands but did not obey, it was the fault of the officers. Sun Tzu also said that, once a general was appointed, it was his duty to carry out his mission, even if the king protested. After both concubines were killed, new officers were chosen to replace them. Afterwards, both companies, now well aware of the costs of further frivolity, performed their manoeuvres flawlessly. "
You just described a Chinese household
@kristopherprime9837 Well, he didn't win without a fight, so he broke his own rule? Positive reinforcement is shown to work better than punishment. He might have considered that people are competitive, and given each "general" a task with their "troops" to do, and outdo the other group. Then, discussed who "won" and why, and who came in second, and why. Also study what each group did well, or where they need to modify their actions. There is a famous study in education, called the "Hawthorne Effect." Here's an explanation: "The Hawthorne effect is a term referring to the tendency of some people to work harder and perform better when they are participants in an experiment." Or, he could have demoted the giggling generals, made them privates, and put one of the "lesser" concubines as their boss. And I always like "The Dirty Dozen" model, of recognizing that each part must work to achieve a goal. Everyone is important.
Indy: "A business suit and a handshake might be just as dangerous to your health"
COVID-19 be like
🤣
Nice profile Pic. Fancy climbing a wall?
Blessed Lisa-posting
99% of the people won't get this.
Bruh, I was expecting this person to appear in the comment.
'If all your guys are dead, then the victory is meaningless'
Sounds to me like Phyrus should have studied the art of war better xD
Phyrus actually accepted he cant win the war and made peace with the romans after his "victories". He basically acted according to Sun Tzu and accepted the situation: "Dont fight battles and wars you cant win". Then he went back to greece and wanted to conquer more greek poleis to strenghten his domain to maybe go back to kicking roman asses with a stronger power base later on. But then he was hit by a roof tile to the head.
@Markos Hernandez Thats a Pyrrhus quote. Its where the term Phyrric Victory comes from.
@@noobster4779 I'd pay to see a Hollywood movie in which the hero, in full armour but without a helmet so that you can see the actor, dies like that.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine pretty sure even with a helmet a close range hit from a thrown roof tile could kill you. Helmets back then wherent known for their protection against huge blunt impacts like modern workers helmets.
The helmets were designed to weaken the hit of a sword by redirecting its strikibg force towards the side with their shape. Being hit by a tile is more closely to being hit with a war hammer. The blunt impact could kill you with a good angle immidiatly. Helmet or not.
Also o e of tje reasons slinhers where very dangerous in ancient times ecen ro heavily armored forces.
@@noobster4779 Sure, he followed him later, but according to Sun Tzu he shouldn't even have started the fighting.
Of course afterwards you always know better and you never can be 100% sure of victory.
"Great Video"
-Sun Tzu, The Art Of War
"Stay strapped or get clapped"
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
''I know everyrthing, I'm a historian'' I'm gonna use that.
I have found the more history I read/research the less certain I get. History can get "interesting" when you start looking into contemporary sources... I have read accounts from one battle (Ratan russian landing in Northern Sweden), when reading some Swedish accounts they seem to describd different events, reason for research was that great...grandfather fought there in 1809, He got musket ball in thigh, walked home (100km+ through enemy held teritory in uniform while carrying gun...)
@@najroe It’s the dunning kruger effect
"Fight where your enemy is weak. Overrun him with 40 gauss warthogs" Sun Tzu - The Art of War if it was applied to Halo Wars.
“IF FIGHTING IS SURE TO RESULT IN VICTORY, THEN YOU MUST FIGHT!”
SUN TZU SAID THAT!
AND I’D SAY HE KNOWS A LITTLE MORE ABOUT FIGHTING THAN YOU DO, PAL, BECAUSE HE INVENTED IT!
AND THEN HE PERFECTED IT SO THAT NO MAN CAN BEST HIM IN THE RING OF HONOR!
THEN HE USED HIS FIGHT MONEY TO BUY 2 OF EVERY ANIMAL ON EARTH, AND THEN HE HERDED THEM ONTO A BOAT, AND THEN HE BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE!
AND FROM THAT DAY FORWARD ANY TIME A BUNCH OF ANIMALS ARE TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE, IT’S CALLED A ZOO!
............
UNLESS IT’S A FARM!
F for Rick May
Lol. Indeed soldier. Indeed
Meow, I saw you ever where.
*Patriotically Screams while holding a shovel*
F
Conrad von Hötzendorf finishes reading The Art of War
"mein General, what did you think about this book ?"
Conrad : "I'll do the exact opposite" :D
Ayyy i know you from EC :D
my favorite is "flank 'em then spank 'em"
But let’s not overlook the “Shoot n’ scoot” or the “Peek’a’boom”
Evacuate, ejaculate
I'm partial to "Stay strapped or get clapped".
Nut and Run
"I know everything, I'm a historian" - Indy (2020). That's gonna be my now motto once I get my History degree
18:21 that gives me flashbacks from the "Rise, Rise, Rise" at the end of The rise of evil.
2:52 Sun Bin's life is better known and he was a total badass. He also wrote a "second part" to the Art of War, including a lot of specific tactics and stratagemes.
"Overrun
Coup de grâce I will win but never fight That's the Art of War"
i like this part
I like to remember that "The Art of War" is useful in economical, social life. It's a masterpiece.
Also in School and college, It help me a lot last year
Well, it is also a Great Sabaton's Album...
Anyone noticed that episode 100 should come out arond the time of the 2 years anniversary of Sabaton History (January 2021)? I'm still praying that this episode will be the special we are all waiting for: Sabaton History- Swedish pagans.
Didn't they already made that?
that would be awesome
*knock on wood*
"Meme them until they cry, then make memes of them crying"
-Sun Tzu
My favorite Sun Tzu quote is "If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight." He knows a little bit more about fighting than I do.
I vividly remember hearing this for the first time when I was a kid, having grown up listening to nothing but old rock and Christian worship music, it instantly changed my life and introduced me to metal in general
“If fighting is sure to result in victory then you must fight.”-Sun Tzu said that
"I'm a historian; I know everything" - Indy 2020
"Widespread habit of forgery during certain time periods in China"
Some things never change...
I was like which period was that from the dawn of time till current?
Actually it was since Qin dynasty.
One of the major political figures of Qin - Lisy, a legist, introduced a doctrine of burning all pre-Qin texts. A lot of original editions of classic chinese texts were destroyed. And a lot of forgeries proceeded.
I do have to admit, I only bought the book because of the song.
The teachings of Sun Tzu ring true and probably always will. Plus it's just generally a good read, even if you don't plan on going to war or implementing the teachings in your life!
Lessons are used in everything from war to US football to the business boardroom.
Just saying November is getting close.
Just wanted to say... This song, and the lyrics, really helped me battle clinical depression.
We really, REALLY need a t-shirt with Indy on it saying: "I know everything, I'm a historian"!
I'm sad that this video missed the most important part of the book.
DO NOT GO TO WAR!
This is the biggest lesson of the book and practically the first thing mentioned if I remember right.
The rest of the book is about what you do if war is unavoidable.
"When the enemy is taking a piss, Strike him in the testicles."
-Sun Tsu
I'm Chinese and I'm so excited about this episode!!!
Edit: Also can I just say even as Chinese myself, I find the English version easier to read than the ancient Chinese version XD
Ahahah that's funny to know
@@lylissmorrinz8361 Yeah, normally the Chinese version has both the original ancient text and modernized translation. I'll just go straight to the modernized translation haha
I found about Sun Tzu "The Art of War" in my school history textbook. Unexpected to see it matching with Sabaton History video and my history revision book
@Nathan Zhang lol you troll
Let's be honest, some of the teachings of this book are just as relevant to a marriage as they are to war.
Well sometimes mariage is a war of atrition
What's the difference
Art of War is relevant to anything that involves strategy and tactics.
Kaguya-sama love is war
@@ankkapommi fucking weeb
I've literally watched ALL of these and the extras. Seriously love learning history from my favorite band and working lol
I read The Art of War, with commentaries by many Chinese generals. It's an incredibly simple book to understand and go through and it is a pretty quick read. Took me like a week of work breaks to get through.
Some parts get a bit stale, but what stuck out most was how direct Sun Tsu is. No flowery language, no beating around the bush just "Do x, get Y." Love it.
Thank you for the wonderful history lesson, Joakim "I love cookies" Brodén and Indy "I'm a historian I know everything" Neidell.
"Technoblade never dies."
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
It had to be somewhere in the comment section..
@@martijn9568 of course it had to c:
@@nevilgod TECHNOOOOOBLLLLAADDE, NEVA DIIIIIIIES
just finished uni for the day to see that this was made available less than an hour ago, bloody amazing
I just read through Sun Tzu's Art of War for the first time yesterday; good timing.
Props to the man here for plugging Project Gutenburg. Can't recommend it enough, so many valuable texts available in whatever format you could need for your device. Art of War and The Prince are worth the read.
Downloaded & saved for my future reference. Thanks guys, you are one of my favorite groups to listen to & learn from.
Probably the best interview so far. Two guys chilling and talking whatever comes to mind!
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!" Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that nobody could best him in the ring of honor. Then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth. And then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo!
Unless it's a farm!
The discussion at the end was so wonderfully goofy, I love you guys ❤️
Fun fact: the intro music for each Sabaton History episode is pulled from the "breakdown" near the end of the song "Cliffs of Gallipoli" which is from, you guessed it: The Art of War album.
Another fun fact: this is my favorite Sabaton album.
I definitely have and read The Art of War. I also have other books on strategies and tactics as well such as, but not limited to: 33 Strategies of War by Robert Greene, On War by Claus von Clausewitz, Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War by Robert Coram.
Just ordered the book yesterday. Quite excited
Oh I love this idea, making a channel to talk about the history of these songs or the history they based on. I'm very interested and glad I found it.
We have a lot of videos, Jon. Take a look!
I find the most inspiration out of Sun Tzu's Art of War entirely and this philosophy is of great motivation to myself. And that's also why the song "Art of War" is one of my utmost favorite songs. And "Regarding soldiers as your children" are important to me with my support for friends and family as well as the military motifs stated in the book in military studies.
You guys are really helping us through this horrible showless time
I will run - they will hunt me in vain
I will hide - they'll be searching
I'll regroup - feign retreat they'll pursue
Coup de grâce I will win but never fight
That's the Art of War!
My favorite album, and my favorite song.
Thanx for great show.
I was so excited about this album when it came out. I had a copy of Sun-Tzu on my bookshelf several years before and I loved every second of the album.
That's great!
"breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting" makes me think of rommel's panzer division behind french lines, as well as that one story where some allied troops made a large group of germans surrender by making them think heavy reinforcements were coming.
Wasn't there also some guy running around with a machine gun and a couple grenades and cause a lot of Germans to just leave
Yup, Audrey Murphy took on a thousand German soldiers on his own
Second day of the battle of Gettysburg. Out of ammunition, a Union officer orders bayonet's fixed, and to counter charge the Confederate forces on their next attack. It is _suicidal,_ yet their enemy breaks before them and falls back.
Why?
Because, the Confederate officers and men, seeing the Union forces charge out of their fortified positions with bayonet's fixed, and knowing they do not want to die any more than themselves, draw the logical conclusion: That the ragged band of men charging them can not _possibly_ be alone, and must have overwhelming reinforcements behind them.
That is the historical moment that to me best proves Sun Tzu's logic, to break the enemy's resistance without fighting, will always be valid when your enemy is a sapient being. If your foe wishes to live as much as you do, then they can be broken without fighting, even when fighting will be sure to bring them victory.
One of the first songs I listened to. So great!
Glad to see you are doing great and marching on. Love the show. :)
A truly epic song from the tracklist!
Your best album so far absolutely. Please do a followup album where its Niccolo Machivieli's art of war thats being quoted. That would be an awesome album!
The art of war is pretty much my favourite song of sabaton for its pure epic value. Whenever I hear it I get like an image in my head of soliders in an medieval setting using it as a PT song (whcih would be great for operational combat. Sometimes when I read about fantasy warriorcultures singing their combat songs about great conflicts I also just get Sabaton lyrics in my head.
The book is also great, I got a copy and read it between lunch breaks really good stuff.
LOVE THIS CHANNEL :)
I am new to the band and this channel, but I'm loving it. Joakim is quite the character. Indy is pretty cool, too.
Thanks for the back story on these songs. Our whole family is learning history in a new way.
I don't who else thinks the same thing, but I know I, personally have been a waiting for this one!
"dying is not epic" - Sun Tzu
EDIT : Replies of this comment are way more funnier
"Press w,a,s,d to move" -Sun Tzu
"Left click to shoot" -Sun Tzu
"You are hurt! Take cover!" -Sun Tzu
“Press control to sprint” - Sun Tzu
"Hold right click to aim"- Sun Tzu
History rocks
Why do you say I should read the book, I've listened the album already.
Because, pavel there is more in the book than there is in the song.
@@GrEyPrEiSt whoosh
The song was a review for the book
Like Sabaton concerts look so hype. Could you please come back to England but like up to Manchester or Liverpool (somewhere nearer me) one day? I would buy a ticket the moment they go live.
Basically Sabaton covering a book: *Make a song about it!*
I know I’d listen to them on Audible.
Thrawn is pretty much defined by the Art of War, he is it’s personification.
Reading that book was the best 1 hour investment i made as a teenager.
Awesome Presentation...
Thanks for sharing the video！！！ Great！！！
what I was looking for today was whether or not the song was based on Sun Tzu's version of "supreme excellence" was ever done in history or not.
I doubt that any war could be fought in such a way seeing as it would be seen as nothing more than surrender by the enemy.
the closest I can think of for this type of war is the Cold War.
I still want to have you guys put together a audio drama for the art of war. like you guys did with the segment covering how water shapes its course. just do something like that for the ENTIRE book.
Sun Tzu Said That!
Really cool episode!! Awesome album and I'll have to check out the book for sure some time in the near future
The modern application of Sun Tzu's concept of winning by not fighting can be seen in a number of ways. On the highest, geopolitical level, it's the use of sanctions against countries like North Korea...except that hasn't worked because their ally in the Korean War never turned on them and has become a massive exporter of all sorts of goods. At the battlefield level it's concepts like psychological warfare - the intimidation tactics of having a hundred main battle tanks roll onto the battlefield blaring heavy metal from their loudspeakers (yes, I've heard interviews of soldiers where they specifically mention the heavy metal playing from their tanks - supposedly it was meant to shock the people of...Iraq or Afghanistan, I forget which war it was...by being so utterly different from what they listen to) and just being so goddamn terrifying that people give up. Which tends to work better when you're not fighting religious extremists who believe dying in battle brings them to the best afterlife their religion offers.
(There may be plenty of examples that have worked splendidly. I don't know them, probably because they worked splendidly and were thus undramatic at the surface level understanding that most people not involved in the event would have.)
This album made me go read the book. Keep it up guys
I love this book. To me, it is the best book in history, so much so that it was my Bible growing up during my difficult teenage years.
I bought the book a few years ago and read it every once in a while, it's surprisingly easy to read and very interesting!
Sun Tzu, "Remember changing a weapon is always faster than reloading"
Because of sabaton I bought the book and have read it several times
Another job well you guys !! As a history teacher who is passionate about war tactics and logistics, I tip my hat to you and your team of researchers.
Actually, I found out about the book "art of war" after listening to the album of Sabaton "The Art of War"
Lets go saboton
As someone who works in a book store, I can confirm "The Art of War" is thinner than your pinky finger for most people
Oh yeah, you're right. I just checked it with my version of the book.
My dream is for Sabaton to do the Three Kingdoms era of China. So much ripe content from that time... Liu Bei Cao Cao, Zhuge Liang, the Sun family, the battle of Chi Bi (Red Cliff), FREAKIN LU BU guys
I share that dream with you, sir. I would also delight in Sabaton doing albums about Ancient Rome and the Napoleonic Era. There is just so much to work with in all three of those topics that Sabaton could do justice to. I also think Alexander the Great deserves a Sabaton song. I really like the Iron Maiden song, but I feel history's greatest commander deserves a bit more love and recognition.
@@scipiocorculum I agree 100%, then you can add in figures like Hannibal, Ghenghis Khan, Shaka Zulu, etc. They could do a whole album from the point of view of men who served these great commanders. Would be a totally badass album cause every song would feel like "Sparta" as far as oomph
Really enjoyed that one.
It is a must read. I have given away copies of the Art of War than any other book.
I want a audiobook of the Art of War, read by Indie Neidell now.
”To ensure victory, return to monke” - Sun Tzu
It's one of my Favorite books. And songs.