It could have been worded better, but I think he was distinguishing "African inspired martial arts" as something unique to BP. "Breakdown Advantages", those go against the Cap.
@josephrichard9393 I don't know what the show was called, and didn't know whether or not it was cannon. Regardless, the fight that I saw at the time that it happened, it's practically exactly how it'd have gone down.
@josephrichard9393 It's not a hard statement for me to stand by It's a hard statement for you to accept. I say that because the matchups are often nonsensical, I once watched some fan fiction (some very well put together fanfiction I might add) that had Batman actually getting with Darth Vader in a fight. A comic book where Spider-Man beats Galactus or some foolishness. What I consider is what I know the characters are actually capable of, and what they would actually do if faced with certain situations. Galactus would have ended Spider-Man immediately, Darth Vader would have forced choked Batman and slammed him against the wall until all his bones were broken immediately. Black panther, is much more intelligent, much more experienced in hand to hand combat, not to mention the technology that he can bring to a bout, and I've never even seen cap use any advanced technology. If he fought captain america he would win.
@josephrichard9393 I never heard of that official ranking myself, so where does that come from, who was the official ranker? Nor have I ever heard anything about him having an augmented brain. I didn't know he had any power other than inhuman strength speed and durability. But also I'm 42 years old, so maybe this is new age stuff I don't know. But if he has an augmented brain, and by somebody, even though I have no idea who, was officially ranked as a better fighter, then okay he would win. But then if all of that is the case, I don't even see why the Black Panther would ever win, or why their fights would even come to a stalemate, if he was that much better he would never lose to an inferior opponent, never. But in any case I don't know where any of that information comes from so I'm not going with it. I'm going with what I know for sure about the two, and even if that only comes from my era, what I know about them tells me cap loses that fight.
This is about a comic book battle between Cap and Panther, these non-canon cartoons have no value in this conversation. In the comics Cap has beaten Panther more often than Panther has ever beaten him. So, y'all should do yourselves a favor and do the research instead spewing out this nonsense.
T'Chala's grandfather beat Cap back during the final days of WW2. They crossed into Wakanda following Germans trying to steal Vibranium, whooped that boy but was so impressed with Cap's honor and courage that they became friends and allies.
@@LordRykard9376 You really should do your homework brother, how do you think Cap got his Vibranium shield ? Also how do you figure Wakanda and the Black Panther is dei?, the original story came out before half the current Avengers. Didn't watch that shitty second movie,that was some dei crap.
Not even close man. There is a reason everyone on earth is trying to recreate the serum that made cap. Thats how Hulk was made, along with lots of others. Tchalla isnt as strong or fast, or durable. Thats why he needs a full suit or ppl like Cap could literally punch a hole thru him. Cap has taken full hits from Thanos and got back up. Also cap has a way more insane healing factor. Tchalla would eventually tire out. Cal wont.
@@williamcortelyou9072actually black panther is stronger faster and more agile he also is smarter by ALOT he was apart of the Illuminati a group of the smartest minds on earth so yeah
@@CurveBall-n9j Lol. Cap has beaten Spiderman Luke Cage, Powerfist and some other chick hero at the same time during a training session. The task was for them get his shield. His was to not let them touch it. And no, he never used his shield. Did it all with his hands and by outsmarting them. Cap is a monster in comics. Once beat hulk in a str8 punching match.
Yeah, this is really the best answer in most situations if you're being 100% honest and we're all biased one way or another. Then the feats that you mention in debates like thus would vary depending on if you're referencing comics or movies
@@supahero00 Captain America is nowhere near the skill and experience that the black panther has been endowed gifted and passed down through the legacy of every wakanda King before him.
@@maxwelljenkins2904 if we going by comics panther definitely get spanked. Cap withstood nuclear fallout and if wielding thors hammer ? Get outta here. Without that suit he’s a black “Hawkeye” lmao 🤣
6/10 ( with 4 of the wins knockouts and 2 of the wins- pins or submissions) what people don't want to accept is Cap America doesn't get butt hurt by being beaten in a fight , especially IF it pushes his mission or goal to success( the soldier in him- it's mission and team first, ego last) Cap also listens and learns to get BETTER . Plus he's pretty dawned good at making friends, which is WHY T'Challa has supported Cap more times than opposed him cause T'challa knows Cap stands for truth and honor...
@LordRykard9376 Cap would last longer and has a chance of winning more often against Black Panther than Batman would- even with Batman's PIS " prep"... T'challa. Walked whole original Avengers line up ( Cap, Thor , Hulk, Iron Man, the wasp and Ant man) before
This fight has happened multiple times in the comics. BP wins almost every time. Fair enough, its always been in costume but T'challa is still better without the suit than Cap is without the shield
@josephrichard9393 not true. I can think of at least three other times they've fought and BP's won. And you're ignoring a lot of context in the fights you mentioned. That's not to mention the additional abilities now available to T'Challa, including the Sekhmet avatar and the ability to summon the dead. Cap stands no chance
@@BaapMan if we're going by MCU, T'challa manhandled Bucky multiple times, technically beat Cap twice in Civil War and has been shown to be physically superior to Cap in every way.
@@morijinsbrother Which civil war did you watch bro? In MCU civil war cap and BP fought at the airport and both were shown equal. As per Comics BP only defeated cap when he was shot and his left leg was badly injured.
The "Super Soldier" Sirum was made using extracts from the "Heart Shaped Herb" so the king would win. he was literally given the precursor to the sirum which was 10x more pure than anything they gave Captain America.
I thought the same thing at first but the serum that Captain America got was altered and possibly made more potent giving him a more powerful version. Keep in mind that all the Black Panthers that we know of aged normally. Steve Rogers is close to 90 years old and still jumping from three story buildings with ease. It’s true that Black Panther has defeated Captain America in the past but I think it’s because it was their first encounter and, because Captain America never faced anyone who had the same abilities as he did at that point, he underestimated him. I may be wrong but I think it would be a stalemate. The only advantage would be certain fighting techniques that Steve has never seen before, because he’s still mostly a brawler in his style of fighting.
@@kuji-in-deed369 the only reason he's "close to 90" is because he was cryogenically frozen for 60 years. But tbh it depends on the universe you're discussing. For example, In the Ultimate comics it's actually revealed that in their universe Steve Rodgers wad placed on ice intentionally because the serum caused rapid aging and severe heart palpitations if he exerted himself to much because his organs didn't adapt the same as his exterior appearance would imply. Forcing S.h.i.e.l.d to act fast and preserve what remained of capt. till medicine was able to bring him back up to fighting condition. These things can get complicated so definitives need to be know before we say who beats who. If you would like to debate let's debate, you up for some friendly banter my comrade?
@@bpmcmanson8701 2010 is when it aired but it was made in 2008. So that's >15yrs ago. I also read the comics in the '80s. T'Challa wasted Cap quite a few times.
@@MaybeDHitHimdon't know if you realize this but this is a comic book channel. A non-canon cartoon has no legs to stand on in this conversation. In the comics Captain America has beating Panther more than Panthers has beating him.
People keep forgetting that T'Challa beat his uncle, the previous Black Panther in their duel. At that time, he did not yet have the herb's power, but his uncle did. The herb gives you access to the power and wisdom of all the previous Black Panthers, and T'Challa beat him, on his own, with no powers. Let that sink in. The question isn't who would win between Black Panther and Captain America. The question is how the hell will Captain America survive?
Agree that tchalla can and has won a majority of the time but the herb does not give you wisdom and power from the past ancestors. Thats only a power up that tchalla has gotten, not something intrinsic to taking the heart shaped herb
T'Challa is the most overhyped character. You know why? So liberals and blacks will buy comics. His entire history on the Avengers makes him C-class. Do your homework.
@@LordRykard9376 You mean like @josephrichard9393 who had an agenda to push? Yeah right. Without their equipment and in peak condition, T'Challa takes Steve out.
It wouldnt, for some reason (the comics ALWAYS makes cap undefeatable in hand to hand, as marvel are very patriotic and even have him winning me tal battles against heligh level telepaths ffs 🙄) Tchalla (or tchaka in some cases) ALWAYS either bests or outright beats cap in almost all mediums, even in the mcu where they only tangled for a small while its ckear steve would get wooped, in Civil War steve is visibly shown to struggle immensely when fighting brainwash bucky, tchalla however not only fought bucky to a stand still he had him on the run, and that is without the suit and possibly the heart shaped herb aswell (his father was still king until he died so he woildnt have had time to go home and do the ceremony) and later at the airport when he had cap on the ropes he made it clear he wasnt going full bore and didnt want to actually hurt steve just wanted him out of his way, plus ewrlier in the city chase cap was tryna run him down and he left him (&some cars) in the dust to the point where cap had to hijack a car to keep up This added to the fact that the SSS is mich like caps shield, a product of wakanda.. ie a pharmaceutical derivant of the heart shaped herb that gifts those from panther lineage immense physical and spiritual gifts, it would make sense that he (Tchalla) essentially possesses the root soutce the organic compound making his enhancements MUCH stronger, combined with his excellent globe spanning training and a tactically superior mind (hes literally marvels batman² just with more money than bruce wayne and god combined) Yeh.. he beats cap and its not even CLOSE.
Captain America is just a regular human. He has peak human strength. Black Panther is superhuman, plus he is a genius, plus he has that vibranium suit.
After many years of analyzing combat sports, picking winners to be specific I've encountered a multitude of factors when determining who will come victorious. All of my research has boiled down to 1 single phrase: "my money is on the black guy"
@@DesmondWhite-yw7nlhis suit doesn't do anything, only his shield. BP has a suit and claws that are part of his suit. He fights like a chick. Scratching.
Not in the comics. Panther is also a genius in the comics and a tactician. Captain America, isn't as strong as he is in the movies either. But he is more durable. That was the old days. I know they increased power levels in the comics. And, maybe they just made Panther a guy with regular intelligence like the movies with no tactical mind.
@@MartyisrulingT'Challa has superhuman strength in the comics bro. Also, since becoming KOtD, he was blessed by Bast even more and gained all the strength, skills and knowledge of ALL the Panthers before him.
The super soldier serum is a bit bigger power amp than the herb. If you remove bast occasionnal power amps from the equation. However t challa is one of the smartest people in the verse second to only like mister fantastic, dr doom, tony stark is debatable. Also the black panther suit is a btter powerup than the shield. So black panther wins in almost any scenario honnestly
Sounds like Black Panthers abilities are more suited to take down a single person 1v1 while Captain America is more suited to have a team combat an army. So I would say BP.
The answer is as always any given Sunday. The winner is up to the writers. Lately, Panther has been winning, however before movies when Panther came out in the late sixties and early seventies he wasn’t as powerful as portrayed today. Also, Cap if I recall had super human strength equivalent to Spidey and Cage after ingesting a chemical, created by the Viper. The original male Viper from the early seventies.
This has happened at least three times I I know of, with 2 different Black Panthers, the first time T'Challa dad took Cap to school, then T'Challa has bodied Steve twice, and he wasn't going all out he was literally testing Cap, in his internal dialogue he acknowledges he could crush caps skull, and Cap says Panther was too fast to track. Honestly this fight isn't as close as people like to think.
@@tinamoul The first fight was with Azzuri, T’challa’s grandfather. And that fight was inconclusive. I know the fight you’re talking about and if you want I can prove to you why using that comic is invalid. And T’challa has not bodied Cap twice when Cap is going all out. That’s false
Panther is enhanced not only with the herb but also with the alien mind or Spirit form of The Panther! This is beyond modern day Marvel CIVILIAN terrain technology ergo Panther wins as he also has the combat reflex memories of former panthers!!! Peace & Love!!!
@@COLBYtheDRAGON Factually wrong. Cap beat BP in contest of champions II issue 3. All there other fights have either been a stalemate or inconclusive with the exception of their civil war sparring match
Captain America’s fighting ability, and other attributes, were quantified in Marvel’s Role Playing Game, along with every other character, that existed, at that time. He is, “The Ultimate Human Fighting Machine.” “No one of human origin, can fight better.” “He is trained in every known martial art.” Those are direct statements, from the sourcebooks. Only characters like Thor, with greater than human attributes, and, in his specific case, an extremely long lifetime of experience, can fight better, with more skill. Both Cap, and Panther, are stronger, faster, and tougher, than ordinary humans, and which one is superior, in each category, is debatable, but when it comes down to sheer skill, Captain America is better. He’s better trained, and has far more experience.
And yet Marvel has always shown Cap LOSING to Black Panther- not a total beat down but T'Challa takes it . Both are PEAK HUMAN, with equal endurance, strength levels and agility- Black Panthers fighting skill is just a little more advanced than Cap ( who uses mainly boxing, judo and when necessary nerve strikes and savate) Difference though? Cap knows T'challa and has respect for the King ( ditto T'challa of Steve Rogers). Cap would take the loss as long as he was able to get to T'challa's sense of honor and reasoning to solve whatever MAJOR problem both of them have to deal with. Same can be said if Black Panther ran across Batman- Bruce goes down in similar fashion
The issue where Cap lost was written in 2004, and NOT by the original writers of either character. I read, and collected in the 80’s, going off of the original material, which was better, in pretty much every way. If “modern” writers want to change what came before, that was leaps, and bounds, beyond anything they can accomplish, then, I can’t stop them, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to put any stock in it. Now, if you can point out an original, old school, issue, where Panther wins, I might reconsider, as I don’t claim to have read every issue from back then, but otherwise, I’m sticking to what Marvel specifically spelled out in their official sourcebook, from when it was still, actually Marvel, before later generations ruined everything.
@@Michael-fh6lw No they haven’t. Don’t know what comics you’re reading but it’s defo not marvel. Cap has beaten T’challa in contest of champions II issue 3. He has also beaten him in Ridley’s run but that fight has context to it. In most of their other fights they’ve always been shown to be equal to each other
Black panther is arguably the best fighter in marvel as far as hand to hand and would even spank Batman from DC.. No slight to Cap but T'challa all day
Cap is said to be one of the finest fighters in the marvel universe and he has mastered ALL forms of hand to hand combat on earth. However, when Cap left the Avengers in the comic he appointed the Black Panther as his replacement. It would be a close fight but cap would win
It would obviously be cap he has way more experience and in the comic books he was trained in different martial arts and military fighting styles like batman but hasn’t fully mastered them and he was even trained by Shane Chi and iron fist and shane chi even said the longer you fight cap the harder it is to predict his moves and even in Captain America, Civil War Iron Man, had to use Friday because he couldn’t beat him in hand to him even without the shield”.
If not suit it's definitely Cap...most people forgot that Cap had the ability to learnt how to use or moves any skills in sec...And most importantly his reflexes are better than BP...
Official Marvel website lists Caps “fighting skills” at 6 on a scale from 1-7 T’Challa is listed at 5… So on paper Steve is a better fighter, but the writers don’t ever seem to want to let T’Challa lose . Maybe they think they’ll piss some people off or something 🤷🏻♂️
maybe because fighting skills is never all that's required to win a fight. You think Crawford would ever stand a chance against Tyson if both fought at their best?
@@princeetu8831 yeah I’m literally an MMA fighter and get the concept of weight classes mattering, but this isn’t a situation where that is a good analogy. If it were someone who has the power of Hulk it would be a great analogy, since Hulk’s fighting ability is 4 out of 7, lower than both these two heroes… but one shot from him can end both of these guy’s lives. In terms of weight class, the most prominent advantage of being bigger/heavier is added strength. They both have strength levels at 3 of 7. The most prominent advantage of being smaller/lighter is speed. Well, they both have speed levels at 2 of 7. Well, as Rocky Balboa famously said, I’m paraphrasing here, “it ain’t always about how hard you can hit, but how hard you can GET hit”. So let’s examine durability. Steve is 3 out of 7, and guess what?…T’Challa is 3 out of 7… 🤨 So… strength both at 3 speed both at 2 durability both at 3 Therefore the only deciding factor here IS fighting ability Steve at 6, T’Challa at 5.
They are basically made to be stale mates of each other, but bc more people do not like the imperialist in spandex they happily give an edge to black panther
It's a pretty even fight. Two juiced fighters with high tactical and sensory awareness, both trained in various martial arts and if we assume they're both sparring hand to hand with both sides staying honorable, it's pretty much an endurance test.
No... BP been beating him. Its nothing new. He was trained in martial arts world wide, not just the African Arts. Would and Has already won, several times.
T'challa cast of power down by getting the heart-shaped herb out of his system when he's challenged for the throne and he's still a beast with that martial arts and on the other hand Steve will always have that super serum in him which is the only way he can be Captain America where as T'challa doesn't need the heart-shaped herb are a vibrating suit to be the Black Panther.
@@edwardstewart6372 Factually wrong. There’s been multiple occasions where Cap has been without the serum and still kicked butt. If you actually read comics and not gotten your opinion from the mcu you would’ve known this
Black Panther was a world class athlete in college and you knowthe rest of his story. Captain America was just a soldier who was given the super soldier serum to make him a sort of superman. He didn't have all of these combat skills and stuff until the Marvel movies recreated him in that area. He wasn't no martial arts expert in early Marvel comic books.
@@tubucoco factually wrong. In avengers issue 6(the 1968 run) Cap states himself he’s adept in all forms of martial arts. In his team up with Wolverine in the city of Madripoor a hand ninja notices that Cap has knowledge of their secret martial art. In Adventures of Captain America issue 1 they show a pre serum Steve rogers becoming adept in martial arts.
In the old cartoon Cap was defeated by the Black Panther. Cap being a man of honor. The Black Panther became friends with Captain America. Then gave him the material to make his shield.
@icegodsavior8885 I can definitely tell your journey in Marvel started with the MCU movies. 🤣 In the comics (Cannon), he's beaten him various times. As a matter of fact, he took on the entire avengers in one episode in the animation.
@@marketomega Yea no he hasn’t. T’challa has only beaten Cap once and that was during civil war when Cap was still injured from his fight with IM. Cap has beaten T’challa only once as well during the contest of champions II run but that win was less dubious as both Cap and T’challa were not injured previously. You’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re talking about
With two Supremely skilled Tactical Fighters, it won't end the same every time. Just like in the old K-1 Kickboxing Wars: Superstars like Peter Aerts, Hoost, Semmy, La Banner, Cro Cop, Sefo, Mark Hunt and Andy Hug OFTEN took each other out. Sometimes in Tournaments, sometimes in single " Super Matches. They were THAT Skilled. Cap, Tchalla, Batman, Deathstroke, Iron Fist, Shang Chi and Richard Dragon would probably be much of the same: " Slip up" and your outta there. Respect.
I'm so glad y'all r putting the real respect on Panthers name that he deserves. Seeing fellow comic inclined individuals that know while Cap will always put up the most wonderful of fights, without his shield hes cooked😂😂😂😂😂
Black Panther wins this, Not easily, but he's just stronger than Cap. Black Panther vs Bane from DC would be an interesting fight. Black Panther beats him too I think but it's a long fight and he's bloodied and sore by the end.
1. The Heart Shaped Herb beats Super Soldier Serum. All day. Every day. 2. T’Challa literally trains in his own custom made training facility to fight (simulations of) ALL the top super heroes of his era just in case. No question who’s winning.
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Tachalla was exposed to all martial arts forms. Not just "African".
Thru multiple galaxies 😂
It could have been worded better, but I think he was distinguishing "African inspired martial arts" as something unique to BP. "Breakdown Advantages", those go against the Cap.
Exactly they tryna sell him short to make it closer , BP wins almost everytime
Steve wasn't trained to be a warrior king from birth Tchalla was
It's T'challa my guy
Somebody hasn't seen those animated Black panther cartoons.
Put cap to sleep lol.
@josephrichard9393 I don't know what the show was called, and didn't know whether or not it was cannon.
Regardless, the fight that I saw at the time that it happened, it's practically exactly how it'd have gone down.
@josephrichard9393 It's not a hard statement for me to stand by It's a hard statement for you to accept.
I say that because the matchups are often nonsensical, I once watched some fan fiction (some very well put together fanfiction I might add) that had Batman actually getting with Darth Vader in a fight. A comic book where Spider-Man beats Galactus or some foolishness.
What I consider is what I know the characters are actually capable of, and what they would actually do if faced with certain situations.
Galactus would have ended Spider-Man immediately, Darth Vader would have forced choked Batman and slammed him against the wall until all his bones were broken immediately.
Black panther, is much more intelligent, much more experienced in hand to hand combat, not to mention the technology that he can bring to a bout, and I've never even seen cap use any advanced technology.
If he fought captain america he would win.
@josephrichard9393 I never heard of that official ranking myself, so where does that come from, who was the official ranker?
Nor have I ever heard anything about him having an augmented brain.
I didn't know he had any power other than inhuman strength speed and durability.
But also I'm 42 years old, so maybe this is new age stuff I don't know.
But if he has an augmented brain, and by somebody, even though I have no idea who, was officially ranked as a better fighter, then okay he would win.
But then if all of that is the case, I don't even see why the Black Panther would ever win, or why their fights would even come to a stalemate, if he was that much better he would never lose to an inferior opponent, never.
But in any case I don't know where any of that information comes from so I'm not going with it.
I'm going with what I know for sure about the two, and even if that only comes from my era, what I know about them tells me cap loses that fight.
You guys do realize that it's not real, right?
@@andremartinez7484 No neither of us realized that.
We were both under the impression that these were real people with real powers.
🤡
No suit no serum no shield no herbs t'chala beat rogers
Without serum Cap is 5.4 feet 45kg dude and he is sick. Even a school kid can trash him.
No suits, no serum, no shield, no herb, no shirt, no pants, no briefs
@@hersonjamora3508 no shirt. No shoes. No service.
I'm 5"5 and I weight 160 holy shit and I fat? Lmfao 🤣🤣@@BaapMan
@@hersonjamora3508😂😂😂😂
The cartoon "Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes" black panther beat most of the avengers at their mansion. Yeah the panther!
That's why that cartoon is garbeano! Str8 trash ...
So you’re basing your take on a show?
@Master_baiter7 the show, the comics, you name it the Panther wins.
Not against Ryu@@JohnLoco-yj3px
This is about a comic book battle between Cap and Panther, these non-canon cartoons have no value in this conversation. In the comics Cap has beaten Panther more often than Panther has ever beaten him. So, y'all should do yourselves a favor and do the research instead spewing out this nonsense.
They end up high fiving each other
Martha
@@bigman20ify😂🤣
Pretty much bro 😂😂🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️👍🏿💯
Exactly! Why should two great heroes fight anyway if we're fans of them both? 😃
@@bigman20ifyOh God, not the Snyder option! 😆
T'Chala's grandfather beat Cap back during the final days of WW2. They crossed into Wakanda following Germans trying to steal Vibranium, whooped that boy but was so impressed with Cap's honor and courage that they became friends and allies.
Nope
@@LordRykard9376 yup
@@desirp88 Incorrect. Seethe more about your DEI character.
@@LordRykard9376 You really should do your homework brother, how do you think Cap got his Vibranium shield ? Also how do you figure Wakanda and the Black Panther is dei?, the original story came out before half the current Avengers. Didn't watch that shitty second movie,that was some dei crap.
I saw that
Black Panther wins
Nah
Not a chance in hell.
Nope
@@Tony-ih1pg
You are delusional and WRONG. Black Panther wins easily. NUFF SAID
@@densityman1
You are delusional and WRONG. Black Panther wins easily. NUFF SAID
Black Panther
wrong
Bro cope 😂@LordRykard9376
@crisp75z yeah I'm doing fine, lib.
I feel it will be black panther with or without the suits
Not even close man. There is a reason everyone on earth is trying to recreate the serum that made cap. Thats how Hulk was made, along with lots of others. Tchalla isnt as strong or fast, or durable. Thats why he needs a full suit or ppl like Cap could literally punch a hole thru him. Cap has taken full hits from Thanos and got back up. Also cap has a way more insane healing factor. Tchalla would eventually tire out. Cal wont.
@@williamcortelyou9072actually black panther is stronger faster and more agile he also is smarter by ALOT he was apart of the Illuminati a group of the smartest minds on earth so yeah
Its Cap. The only reason we are even talking about this is because American black identity politics has turned BP into something overpowered.
Thing is Peter Parker should beat them both at the same time✅
@@CurveBall-n9j
Lol. Cap has beaten Spiderman Luke Cage, Powerfist and some other chick hero at the same time during a training session. The task was for them get his shield. His was to not let them touch it. And no, he never used his shield. Did it all with his hands and by outsmarting them. Cap is a monster in comics. Once beat hulk in a str8 punching match.
Black Panther literally beat him with 1 hand already...
No way!😂
@@James-sd1kc yes he will
Boy stop cap got beat all the black panthers n marvel
Cap beat him
Wrong
Who would win, depends on who is writing the story.
Exactly 😂
Yeah, this is really the best answer in most situations if you're being 100% honest and we're all biased one way or another. Then the feats that you mention in debates like thus would vary depending on if you're referencing comics or movies
It's already been written he beat Captain America easily 🐣™️💪🏿
@@michael029138 this is facts tho lol
Cheap answer
what most people don't know...The mystical herb is actually the pure and perfect form of the super soldier formula. So 100% Black panther
That just means strength not skill.. The only person that put a beating on Thanos was...
@@supahero00 Captain America is nowhere near the skill and experience that the black panther has been endowed gifted and passed down through the legacy of every wakanda King before him.
@@thedonsavvy4519 Incorrect. BP coudln't even handle Wolverine on a good day.
@@LordRykard9376 Go read a few comics and let us all know when you're all cought up. Disinformation is not even debatable it's facts.
@@thedonsavvy4519 It aint Black History Month, buddy. That doesn't work on me.
Black Panther literally has necromancy, he's gonna win.
Yep that good ole African voodoo
Necromancy didn’t help his dad or panther himself. They dead ☠️. Is cap dead? Rest my case
@@alexs2975bruh🤔
@alexs2975 T'chall'a is alive in the comics. Movie wise, they're both dead. What are you talking about?
@@maxwelljenkins2904 if we going by comics panther definitely get spanked. Cap withstood nuclear fallout and if wielding thors hammer ? Get outta here. Without that suit he’s a black “Hawkeye” lmao 🤣
This was a really great way to ask a question without answering it… 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
No doubt about it, black panther all day long
Incorrect
6/10 ( with 4 of the wins knockouts and 2 of the wins- pins or submissions) what people don't want to accept is Cap America doesn't get butt hurt by being beaten in a fight , especially IF it pushes his mission or goal to success( the soldier in him- it's mission and team first, ego last)
Cap also listens and learns to get BETTER . Plus he's pretty dawned good at making friends, which is WHY T'Challa has supported Cap more times than opposed him cause T'challa knows Cap stands for truth and honor...
@LordRykard9376 Cap would last longer and has a chance of winning more often against Black Panther than Batman would- even with Batman's PIS " prep"...
T'challa. Walked whole original Avengers line up ( Cap, Thor , Hulk, Iron Man, the wasp and Ant man) before
This fight has happened multiple times in the comics. BP wins almost every time. Fair enough, its always been in costume but T'challa is still better without the suit than Cap is without the shield
Have you watched the movie Black Panther?
Kill monger trashed him.
Captain will Manhandle Black Panther.
@@BaapManif killmonger could handle blackpanther than he’d do the same to cap
@josephrichard9393 not true. I can think of at least three other times they've fought and BP's won. And you're ignoring a lot of context in the fights you mentioned.
That's not to mention the additional abilities now available to T'Challa, including the Sekhmet avatar and the ability to summon the dead. Cap stands no chance
@@BaapMan if we're going by MCU, T'challa manhandled Bucky multiple times, technically beat Cap twice in Civil War and has been shown to be physically superior to Cap in every way.
@@morijinsbrother Which civil war did you watch bro? In MCU civil war cap and BP fought at the airport and both were shown equal.
As per Comics BP only defeated cap when he was shot and his left leg was badly injured.
The "Super Soldier" Sirum was made using extracts from the "Heart Shaped Herb" so the king would win. he was literally given the precursor to the sirum which was 10x more pure than anything they gave Captain America.
I thought the same thing at first but the serum that Captain America got was altered and possibly made more potent giving him a more powerful version. Keep in mind that all the Black Panthers that we know of aged normally. Steve Rogers is close to 90 years old and still jumping from three story buildings with ease. It’s true that Black Panther has defeated Captain America in the past but I think it’s because it was their first encounter and, because Captain America never faced anyone who had the same abilities as he did at that point, he underestimated him. I may be wrong but I think it would be a stalemate. The only advantage would be certain fighting techniques that Steve has never seen before, because he’s still mostly a brawler in his style of fighting.
@@kuji-in-deed369 the only reason he's "close to 90" is because he was cryogenically frozen for 60 years. But tbh it depends on the universe you're discussing. For example, In the Ultimate comics it's actually revealed that in their universe Steve Rodgers wad placed on ice intentionally because the serum caused rapid aging and severe heart palpitations if he exerted himself to much because his organs didn't adapt the same as his exterior appearance would imply. Forcing S.h.i.e.l.d to act fast and preserve what remained of capt. till medicine was able to bring him back up to fighting condition. These things can get complicated so definitives need to be know before we say who beats who. If you would like to debate let's debate, you up for some friendly banter my comrade?
@@SafeAndStoney no need for debates. You’re right it depends on the story and who’s writing it. Superhero power levels change all the time.
@josephrichard9393he lost
So depend on how strong the drugs are.
Steve: “I can do this all day.”
T’Challa: “So can I.”
Turns out T-Challa cant.
@@LordRykard9376* lose a fight against Captain America. You’re right😊
@@angeloc7486 he did. Multiple times, in fact.
Cry more, lib.
okay and dummy
@@LordRykard9376Cap got his ass whooped by T’Challa and his grand pops. cope peckawood. 🤡
The audience. The audience would win.
TChalla beat Cap when they were both fully equipped!!!
When did that fight happen? Recently im assuming?
@@bpmcmanson8701 in the animated series where T'Challa is voiced by Djimon Honsu, T'Challa whoops Cap's ASS.
@MaybeDHitHim was it made within the last 10yrs or so?
@@bpmcmanson8701 2010 is when it aired but it was made in 2008. So that's >15yrs ago. I also read the comics in the '80s. T'Challa wasted Cap quite a few times.
@@MaybeDHitHimdon't know if you realize this but this is a comic book channel. A non-canon cartoon has no legs to stand on in this conversation. In the comics Captain America has beating Panther more than Panthers has beating him.
Why can't Star Sprangle Pants fans accept that BP has constantly eliminated Caps ass everytime?
Cuz he hasn't
@@LordRykard9376 It's no secret that BP beat Cap constantly. Check the comic's not MCU
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Because they don’t read comics. They’re just casual MCU fans
@@glenntravis7014 no wonder 😅
People keep forgetting that T'Challa beat his uncle, the previous Black Panther in their duel. At that time, he did not yet have the herb's power, but his uncle did. The herb gives you access to the power and wisdom of all the previous Black Panthers, and T'Challa beat him, on his own, with no powers. Let that sink in. The question isn't who would win between Black Panther and Captain America. The question is how the hell will Captain America survive?
Cap won’t survive, he dies and panther uses his corpse as target practice.
Agree that tchalla can and has won a majority of the time but the herb does not give you wisdom and power from the past ancestors. Thats only a power up that tchalla has gotten, not something intrinsic to taking the heart shaped herb
Ha ha;!!!! Very true brother @@geeebuttersnap2433
T'Challa is the most overhyped character. You know why? So liberals and blacks will buy comics. His entire history on the Avengers makes him C-class.
Do your homework.
@@LordRykard9376 You mean like @josephrichard9393 who had an agenda to push? Yeah right. Without their equipment and in peak condition, T'Challa takes Steve out.
Black panther for the win!
Id hope a no suits no shield hand to hand combat would be close quarters...
Lol
It wouldnt, for some reason (the comics ALWAYS makes cap undefeatable in hand to hand, as marvel are very patriotic and even have him winning me tal battles against heligh level telepaths ffs 🙄) Tchalla (or tchaka in some cases) ALWAYS either bests or outright beats cap in almost all mediums, even in the mcu where they only tangled for a small while its ckear steve would get wooped, in Civil War steve is visibly shown to struggle immensely when fighting brainwash bucky, tchalla however not only fought bucky to a stand still he had him on the run, and that is without the suit and possibly the heart shaped herb aswell (his father was still king until he died so he woildnt have had time to go home and do the ceremony) and later at the airport when he had cap on the ropes he made it clear he wasnt going full bore and didnt want to actually hurt steve just wanted him out of his way, plus ewrlier in the city chase cap was tryna run him down and he left him (&some cars) in the dust to the point where cap had to hijack a car to keep up
This added to the fact that the SSS is mich like caps shield, a product of wakanda.. ie a pharmaceutical derivant of the heart shaped herb that gifts those from panther lineage immense physical and spiritual gifts, it would make sense that he (Tchalla) essentially possesses the root soutce the organic compound making his enhancements MUCH stronger, combined with his excellent globe spanning training and a tactically superior mind (hes literally marvels batman² just with more money than bruce wayne and god combined)
Yeh.. he beats cap and its not even CLOSE.
@@o-wolfbro, you misunderstood what he's saying and then wrote War & Peace explaining things that have nothing to do with the original comment.
Captain America is just a regular human. He has peak human strength. Black Panther is superhuman, plus he is a genius, plus he has that vibranium suit.
Funny enough both are peak human according to marvel strength scale
@wash99 they changed it. Black panther forever was superhuman
@@rbgjr84 marvel official page rate them in same strength level 3 both bp and cap
Well said
Cap is superhuman. Marvels official website lists his physicals as superhuman so he’s superhuman
After many years of analyzing combat sports, picking winners to be specific I've encountered a multitude of factors when determining who will come victorious. All of my research has boiled down to 1 single phrase: "my money is on the black guy"
😂😂😂😂 bet on black😂😂😂
Did we forget how black panther literally wins almost every fight they have?
Black Panther wins in his suit. The short said no suit or shields. Just pure hand to hand, and Roger's going to win that every single time.
@@ryuken338Black panther wins
@ryuken338 you act like cap didn't have his suit shield during those fights
@@DesmondWhite-yw7nlhis suit doesn't do anything, only his shield. BP has a suit and claws that are part of his suit. He fights like a chick. Scratching.
@DukeSilverRS his suit has Armour plating the looks like feathers. I believe you're thinking of his classic suit
Black
beat Cap
already my dude
right thats what i said and it was a wash
Cap would beat Black Panther with ease.....
@@James-sd1kcNah, BP would definitely win. His skills are beyond Cap's
Cap went toe to toe with Thanos twice and held his own. Don’t sleep on Cap.
Tell me what happened to Black Panther and war machine in Civil War when they ran into cap I'm daed lol🤣🤣 read some comics
Captain is a Super Soldier, versatile in all fighting styles and can go all day..
Plus Cap can do it all day
but wakanda forever
thats CAP lol
@@thechlips hahahahaha...nice one...wakanda forever
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@@grimmmful well played
Panther was taught in all martial arts. And he has super human strength, not near super human strength.
Not in the comics. Panther is also a genius in the comics and a tactician. Captain America, isn't as strong as he is in the movies either. But he is more durable. That was the old days. I know they increased power levels in the comics. And, maybe they just made Panther a guy with regular intelligence like the movies with no tactical mind.
@@Martyisrulingsaying mcu cap is weaker than comic cap should be a crime. When has mcu cap blocked hits from Phoenix energy and hulk hits.
@@MartyisrulingT'Challa has superhuman strength in the comics bro. Also, since becoming KOtD, he was blessed by Bast even more and gained all the strength, skills and knowledge of ALL the Panthers before him.
The super soldier serum is a bit bigger power amp than the herb. If you remove bast occasionnal power amps from the equation. However t challa is one of the smartest people in the verse second to only like mister fantastic, dr doom, tony stark is debatable. Also the black panther suit is a btter powerup than the shield. So black panther wins in almost any scenario honnestly
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Sounds like Black Panthers abilities are more suited to take down a single person 1v1 while Captain America is more suited to have a team combat an army. So I would say BP.
Panther doesn't just know African martial arts. He knows all of them and created his own.
The answer is as always any given Sunday. The winner is up to the writers. Lately, Panther has been winning, however before movies when Panther came out in the late sixties and early seventies he wasn’t as powerful as portrayed today. Also, Cap if I recall had super human strength equivalent to Spidey and Cage after ingesting a chemical, created by the Viper. The original male Viper from the early seventies.
This has happened at least three times I I know of, with 2 different Black Panthers, the first time T'Challa dad took Cap to school, then T'Challa has bodied Steve twice, and he wasn't going all out he was literally testing Cap, in his internal dialogue he acknowledges he could crush caps skull, and Cap says Panther was too fast to track. Honestly this fight isn't as close as people like to think.
@@tinamoul The first fight was with Azzuri, T’challa’s grandfather. And that fight was inconclusive. I know the fight you’re talking about and if you want I can prove to you why using that comic is invalid. And T’challa has not bodied Cap twice when Cap is going all out. That’s false
Black panther is 8 smartest in the I think the mcu
That doesn't mean his brain works faster than Cap's.
@@jimmyjam5453it does
The comics has already addressed this
..Black Panther for the win 🏆
@@WeProvokeThought You mean the comic where Cap beat T’challa in contest of champions II issue 3?
The glaze for panther is insane. They have literally had altercations in comics and cap comes out on top every time
BlackPanther with ease ✨️
That white and gold captain america suit looks so good Fr
Black panther
Panther is enhanced not only with the herb but also with the alien mind or Spirit form of The Panther! This is beyond modern day Marvel CIVILIAN terrain technology ergo Panther wins as he also has the combat reflex memories of former panthers!!!
Peace & Love!!!
This could go either way. I love Cap but I think the slight edge goes to Black Panther. But if they faught 10 times it could be 50-50
THEY FOUGHT MULTIPLES LOL
CAP GOT WASHED BAD EVERY TIME EVEN TCHALLAS DAD BEAT HIM TOO
@@COLBYtheDRAGON Factually wrong. Cap beat BP in contest of champions II issue 3. All there other fights have either been a stalemate or inconclusive with the exception of their civil war sparring match
I'm glad no one was hating on BP
Panther generally has a slight edge, if I'm not mistaken. But honestly, it could go either way.
A good man will always b a good man. A Prince is on a different level all together.
Captain America’s fighting ability, and other attributes, were quantified in Marvel’s Role Playing Game, along with every other character, that existed, at that time. He is, “The Ultimate Human Fighting Machine.” “No one of human origin, can fight better.” “He is trained in every known martial art.” Those are direct statements, from the sourcebooks. Only characters like Thor, with greater than human attributes, and, in his specific case, an extremely long lifetime of experience, can fight better, with more skill. Both Cap, and Panther, are stronger, faster, and tougher, than ordinary humans, and which one is superior, in each category, is debatable, but when it comes down to sheer skill, Captain America is better. He’s better trained, and has far more experience.
And yet Marvel has always shown Cap LOSING to Black Panther- not a total beat down but T'Challa takes it . Both are PEAK HUMAN, with equal endurance, strength levels and agility- Black Panthers fighting skill is just a little more advanced than Cap ( who uses mainly boxing, judo and when necessary nerve strikes and savate)
Difference though? Cap knows T'challa and has respect for the King ( ditto T'challa of Steve Rogers). Cap would take the loss as long as he was able to get to T'challa's sense of honor and reasoning to solve whatever MAJOR problem both of them have to deal with.
Same can be said if Black Panther ran across Batman- Bruce goes down in similar fashion
The issue where Cap lost was written in 2004, and NOT by the original writers of either character. I read, and collected in the 80’s, going off of the original material, which was better, in pretty much every way. If “modern” writers want to change what came before, that was leaps, and bounds, beyond anything they can accomplish, then, I can’t stop them, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to put any stock in it.
Now, if you can point out an original, old school, issue, where Panther wins, I might reconsider, as I don’t claim to have read every issue from back then, but otherwise, I’m sticking to what Marvel specifically spelled out in their official sourcebook, from when it was still, actually Marvel, before later generations ruined everything.
@@leemastro9904bro stan Lee stated BP would beat CA
@@LiquidSoul06 He never said that
@@Michael-fh6lw No they haven’t. Don’t know what comics you’re reading but it’s defo not marvel. Cap has beaten T’challa in contest of champions II issue 3. He has also beaten him in Ridley’s run but that fight has context to it. In most of their other fights they’ve always been shown to be equal to each other
Black panther is arguably the best fighter in marvel as far as hand to hand and would even spank Batman from DC..
No slight to Cap but T'challa all day
Cap is said to be one of the finest fighters in the marvel universe and he has mastered ALL forms of hand to hand combat on earth. However, when Cap left the Avengers in the comic he appointed the Black Panther as his replacement. It would be a close fight but cap would win
T'Challa is also stated to have mastered all martial arts, including those of K'un L'un AND unknown Wakandan martial arts, that Cap wouldn't know.
Panther has beaten Rogers on multiple occasions. ~Necromancy~ Magic Herb> science
@@byronmontgomeryjr. No he hasn’t. And he doesn’t have necromancy either
It would obviously be cap he has way more experience and in the comic books he was trained in different martial arts and military fighting styles like batman but hasn’t fully mastered them and he was even trained by Shane Chi and iron fist and shane chi even said the longer you fight cap the harder it is to predict his moves and even in Captain America, Civil War Iron Man, had to use Friday because he couldn’t beat him in hand to him even without the shield”.
Black panther,well original steve roger was suck
If not suit it's definitely Cap...most people forgot that Cap had the ability to learnt how to use or moves any skills in sec...And most importantly his reflexes are better than BP...
Official Marvel website lists Caps “fighting skills” at 6 on a scale from 1-7
T’Challa is listed at 5…
So on paper Steve is a better fighter, but the writers don’t ever seem to want to let T’Challa lose . Maybe they think they’ll piss some people off or something 🤷🏻♂️
True.
maybe because fighting skills is never all that's required to win a fight. You think Crawford would ever stand a chance against Tyson if both fought at their best?
@@princeetu8831 yeah I’m literally an MMA fighter and get the concept of weight classes mattering, but this isn’t a situation where that is a good analogy. If it were someone who has the power of Hulk it would be a great analogy, since Hulk’s fighting ability is 4 out of 7, lower than both these two heroes… but one shot from him can end both of these guy’s lives.
In terms of weight class, the most prominent advantage of being bigger/heavier is added strength. They both have strength levels at 3 of 7. The most prominent advantage of being smaller/lighter is speed. Well, they both have speed levels at 2 of 7. Well, as Rocky Balboa famously said, I’m paraphrasing here, “it ain’t always about how hard you can hit, but how hard you can GET hit”. So let’s examine durability. Steve is 3 out of 7, and guess what?…T’Challa is 3 out of 7… 🤨
So…
strength both at 3
speed both at 2
durability both at 3
Therefore the only deciding factor here IS fighting ability Steve at 6, T’Challa at 5.
@@Rocky357my man just settled the debate with straight stats lol.
@@Rocky357 you seem to forget the factor that T'challa has mastered more Martial Arts then Steve.
Black panther and captain America both have had extensive military experience
They are basically made to be stale mates of each other, but bc more people do not like the imperialist in spandex they happily give an edge to black panther
What? No one is thinking in terms of symbolism. Panther Just has enough of the edge to tip the scales simple as that
Homie didn’t even answer the question lol
Cap wins....because he coud fight all day ...
But Wakanda is forever
@@morijinsbrother ooh 😆😆
This Marvel fight would be an absolute sight to behold
STOP! It is basically the same formula. Marvel just provided a different interpretation to satisfy everyone. This is an even fit across the board.
READ MORE BOOKS …TCHALLA AND HIS FATHER HAS BEATEN STEVE MULTIPLE TIMES 🤷🏿♂️
It's a pretty even fight. Two juiced fighters with high tactical and sensory awareness, both trained in various martial arts and if we assume they're both sparring hand to hand with both sides staying honorable, it's pretty much an endurance test.
Out of 10 fights it would be 5/5 lool it could go either way.
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THEYVE FOUGHT MULTIPLE TIMES CAP GOT WASHED EVERY TIME
EVEN TCHALLAS DAD BEAT STEVE
@@COLBYtheDRAGON False. I’ve already explained to you why
As an author once stated. 'the person I want to win, will win'
Low key it's kinda racist black panther smoked some purple bud for his super powers. Jk
He didn't smoke he drink something Annie's powered by a panther God black panther wins
The Black Panther Glaze is crazy 😆
Cap would beat the stuffing out of Panther
Black panther has won almost every fight they've had
No... BP been beating him. Its nothing new. He was trained in martial arts world wide, not just the African Arts.
Would and Has already won, several times.
2 on 1.. black panther play strategy.
@@Nico-ch6nublack panther ain't nothing but a punk
@@HighQualityCo2 steroids is captain America's strategy.
T'challa all day ... RIP to the King Chadwick Boseman
T'challa cast of power down by getting the heart-shaped herb out of his system when he's challenged for the throne and he's still a beast with that martial arts and on the other hand Steve will always have that super serum in him which is the only way he can be Captain America where as T'challa doesn't need the heart-shaped herb are a vibrating suit to be the Black Panther.
@@edwardstewart6372 Factually wrong. There’s been multiple occasions where Cap has been without the serum and still kicked butt. If you actually read comics and not gotten your opinion from the mcu you would’ve known this
Black Panther was a world class athlete in college and you knowthe rest of his story. Captain America was just a soldier who was given the super soldier serum to make him a sort of superman. He didn't have all of these combat skills and stuff until the Marvel movies recreated him in that area. He wasn't no martial arts expert in early Marvel comic books.
@@tubucoco factually wrong. In avengers issue 6(the 1968 run) Cap states himself he’s adept in all forms of martial arts. In his team up with Wolverine in the city of Madripoor a hand ninja notices that Cap has knowledge of their secret martial art. In Adventures of Captain America issue 1 they show a pre serum Steve rogers becoming adept in martial arts.
One is a captain and the other a king…😂
Thank you for answering my question...
I like how the video ends without giving us a winner. I belive Black Panther would win.
Can we get a dope fan animation of this scrap? I just wanna see them go at it
Captain America was never shown to have any real combat training, just smarts and heart
Black Panther! Say it loud "IM BLACK (PANTHER) AND IM PROUD!!!!"
In the old cartoon Cap was defeated by the Black Panther. Cap being a man of honor. The Black Panther became friends with Captain America. Then gave him the material to make his shield.
Tchalla learned all his skills from childhood till an adult and as for Steve everything comes from the super serum.
@@ziearrezubar6433 False. Stop getting your opinions from the mcu and actually read comics
Black Panther almost ALWAYS has beaten Captain America. Even in the comics and cartoons.
@@marketomega This is false btw
@icegodsavior8885 I can definitely tell your journey in Marvel started with the MCU movies. 🤣 In the comics (Cannon), he's beaten him various times. As a matter of fact, he took on the entire avengers in one episode in the animation.
@@marketomega Yea no he hasn’t. T’challa has only beaten Cap once and that was during civil war when Cap was still injured from his fight with IM. Cap has beaten T’challa only once as well during the contest of champions II run but that win was less dubious as both Cap and T’challa were not injured previously. You’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re talking about
Black Panther! It’s already in the books.
Tchalla was trained from the moment he could walk while Rogers started training in his late teens.
Black Panther. This already happened in the story, "Flags of our Fathers". It was T'Challa's grandfather, T'Chanda.
Steve Rodgers: i can do this all day
Tchalla: i dont care
With two Supremely skilled Tactical Fighters, it won't end the same every time. Just like in the old K-1 Kickboxing Wars: Superstars like Peter Aerts, Hoost, Semmy, La Banner, Cro Cop, Sefo, Mark Hunt and Andy Hug OFTEN took each other out. Sometimes in Tournaments, sometimes in single " Super Matches. They were THAT Skilled. Cap, Tchalla, Batman, Deathstroke, Iron Fist, Shang Chi and Richard Dragon would probably be much of the same: " Slip up" and your outta there. Respect.
I'm so glad y'all r putting the real respect on Panthers name that he deserves. Seeing fellow comic inclined individuals that know while Cap will always put up the most wonderful of fights, without his shield hes cooked😂😂😂😂😂
Both are expert combatants. So either one could win the fight!
“While tchachala did some voodoo shit” 👀😂😂
This was 100% written by AI. "Makes him a formidable opponent"
Black Panther wins this, Not easily, but he's just stronger than Cap. Black Panther vs Bane from DC would be an interesting fight. Black Panther beats him too I think but it's a long fight and he's bloodied and sore by the end.
black panther, no question
Captain America has more combat experience than all the avengers combined.
1. The Heart Shaped Herb beats Super Soldier Serum. All day. Every day.
2. T’Challa literally trains in his own custom made training facility to fight (simulations of) ALL the top super heroes of his era just in case.
No question who’s winning.
Cap is getting washed by T'Challa no question.
everyone forgot he now has the powers of all the panthers that ever were combined by yhe panther goddess after beung lord of the dead
You forget he gains the experience from past panthers from the herb
Bp literally knows every fighting style over many centuries and galaxies. No one is outfighting BP hand to hand.
BP knew how to fight before the flower, Cap had learned to after the serum.
T'Challa EVERY DAY!!!
Rogers probably. He has better regeneration I think. But the Panther has unorthodox moves/tactics that could take Capt by surprise.
When Jackie Chan and Jet Li fought it was amazing. The movie made it draw. Both are so badass B.P. & C.A. would be a draw.
This man said "near superhuman " strength!!! Don't disrespect my King like that!!
Capitan★ america★ siempre gana el es LEYENDA! VIVIENTE!""