lamplightersaid in the episode that the doctor gave cindy the wrong dosage of propafol (sorry if I butchered that) and that's why she broke out as an excuse, so I'm guessing they were keeping her drugged so she wouldn't be strong enough to escape
I think Maeve's line "Why are you looking at me like that?" is quite the high point. Every time it's her and Elena in the same scene, she feels very human and grounded and tender with her. And then Elena finds the footage from the plane and... Maeve tries to make up excuses and make her focus elsewhere and it all culminates into that "Why". I mean, any kind of human that isn't twisted would know why she's looking at her like that. Instead, they would have said "Please don't give me that look." But Maeve didn't. Seems like they wanted to highlight the inherent disconnect between regular humans and Supes.
This episode was perfect. So many closures. The back story of frenchie saving his best friend parallels to the story of annie saving hughie, there's always a sacrifice.
lamplighter is Green Lantern. In the comics The 7 are JL and Stormfron't old team Payback is the Avengers. StromFron't character is a Thor stand in. In the comics.
Maybe the head of the church of collective has a power similar to professor X as in he can read people's minds or their worries and hence he acts like he knows everything about them
One thing about the trackers its know not to be a vitals tracker because when they kill translucent they took his out and they couldn't tell he was dead already they just knew the general location of his last known location
1. Stormfront wasn't his lover when she was under experimentation. Remeber, she says to homelander "he (fredrick vought) gave me the first V injection, he taought me everything and then we fell in love and he gave me a daughter". 2. somehow, i am still dubious that the old woman in the picture is actually her daughter. How can homelander's power transfer to his kid, and stormfront's power cannot. Which also raises another question: why are some kids allowed to have a normal life with their family, and kids like homelander are not. Did they inject him with some premium compound V stuff ?
@Lebron Fan nah mate.. i think the first word butcher's son would utter, rhyme with shunt... just kidding.. but even butcher himself says so that, that kid is a spitting image of homelander.. also, the boy has blond hair, blue eyes, both are homelander's feature.
Lamplighter’s costume looks like something you would see in Stargirl. When they laughed at him, I couldn’t help but think of how bad Hour Man’s costume was.
About Cindy, I think she can only manipulate metal. That's how she was able to break the other doors but not her because her door was made of concrete.
I understood as, Stormfront was the 1st Supe - so the effect of Compound V works but it wasnt yet perfected. It could also be: Dosage amounts? The genders could play a role. Since being a Supe was literally brand new nature hadnt had time to course correct. Im reminded of Dr Manhattan's speech of Oxygen into Gold ( how random and unlikely the circumstances are for someone like Laurie to be born ). Also the medical advancements since the 30s.
I'd love seeing maeve fight stormfront,i just rewatched the s2 trailer and she is clearly punching stormfront in an open area which looks to be Grove facility's front area.think we gonna end up with maeve,A-train and deep on helping the boys alongside Lamplighter.add noir to the bunch and im legit team boys!
Is it possible that Compound V is actually Compound 5, roman numeral V and not the letter V. Meaning there are Compounds: I, II, III, IV as well? Possibly Stormfront is trying to make Compound VI?
Now that Dave and Mike have revealed that in the comics the Boys end up taking V, I'm more confident the show is gonna go in this direction. My theory: One of the Boys is gonna take V because they are at the brink of death, because the show isn't going to make this easy for them. The first person that this comes to mind is Huey or Butcher.
Probabbly Butcher because there's the whole trope of becoming what you despise, in Butcher's case a supe. It would also give us this awesome fight at the end of the show with the two of them just really going at it.
The part that hit hardest for me was stormfronts proclamation to homelander. Mostly because there are those in real life that agree with those sentiments and that's just disturbing.
To continue the theme of burrowing from other movies. Edgar is Vought (Get Out). Trying to create the perfect body to transfer his mind out of the Edgar body to.
Teddy Bear's Picnic dates back to the 1930's. My grandmother sang it to my dad then, when he was a kid. As a child, we made up a lot of different lyrics to it. A lot.
The knife in Stormfront's "chest 'o memories" is a German WWII bayonet, the diamond-shaped insignia on the handle is a "Hitler youth" insignia. If most adults die from V then she was likely given it when she was younger.
Homelander literally has blond hair and blue eyes adding to his being the paragon of what you were saying Stormfront wants of her race of a million strong aryan (should Aryan be capitalized?) super soldiers.
I commented about the kid being the one blowing up the agent's head but I agree if that's the thing there will be a plothole about her being used as an assassin and being imprisoned at the same time
28:20 The knife in question is a "Nazi Youth" Dagger. It was part of the uniform that the Nazi Party's "Boy Scouts" wore. The insignia in the handle is the swastika emblem on a field of white. This could point to the fact that Stormfront was a member of the Nazi Youth (she certainly is the right age) as it's members were usually between the age of 12 to 16. FYI At the end of the battle of Berlin, the Germans sent the Nazi Youth to the front to fight as part of the "Homeland Defense" force.
Three predictions. 1. Stormfront and homelander are going to try to take Homelanders son and raise him as theirs. And they're probly going to kill the kids mom.. 2. The female of the species kimiko , is going to rip out stormfronts eye . and Stormfront is going to kill her or put her in a coma. 3. At some point Stormfront is going to use her electricity attack on Starlight and instead of hurting her it's going to make her super powerful.
Surprised Homelander was ok with having Lamplighter on the team. Similar to the blind hero he didn't like couldn't Homelander argue if someone threw water on Lamplighter's torch he'd be powerless/useless?
@@MalindaPC Because it totally makes sense to believe someone's point of view is smart, when they can't even be bothered to learn how to spell. Not that you'd be able to grasp that you air headed moron.
It would feel weird that Lamplighter would be later revealed to be that much of a sexual deviant and yet still garner sympathy from Frenchie and MM. If they knew what the blackmail stuff was, why stop Mallory from killing him? Depends on what the blackmail stuff was.
I have a theory, Frederick Vought didn't create Compound V. I think the real creator didn't want to work for nazi and took the perfect Compound V and run away. That would explain why Stormfront and Vought wasn't able to create another perfect Compound V
I think butch already has powers and thats why he locked out hughy and mm when he’s was about to fight noir and also explains how he kicks translucents ass
Hey guys. I do belive the knife is a "Hitler Youth" knife. This is a bit confusing because only boys were in the Hitler Youth. The girls version of the Hitler Youth was called The Leauge of German Girls and they did wear uniform. However, I am not aware of them being issued Hitler Youth knives . SO, was she a man? Did she have a brother in the Htler Youth? Were girls also issued Hitler Youth knives? Was she a collector of Nazi memorabilia? As a contemporary of Hitler Vought would have been an adult after the Hitler Youth was formed. So, I don't know what this means. I found this: "Gradually the Aryan girls were joining their equivalent of the Hitler Youth - the Bund Deutscher Mädchen (League of German Girls) - and appeared in school in their new uniforms of navy blue skirts, white blouses, dark ties and white knee-length socks." Dorothy Fleming Holocaust Survivor; quote from Survival.
Queen Maeve is dying soon at the hands of Homelander. When she tries to blackmail him he won’t care because Stormfront is grooming Homelander to not give a fuck. This will be like when she attacked him with the sword in the comics and it didn’t do shit to Homelander then he killed her.
cindy is stormfronts daughter thats why she was used in the murder and storm front didn't hit her with a full blast we all see what she can do when she killed the females brothers
The actor that plays Lamplighter plays a real mutant whose ability is ice manipulation. In the Boys he plays an artificially enhanced mutant whose ability is fire manipulation.... Coincidence?
No way Stan Edgar is being manipulated by Stormfront. If I had to guess, he’s been allowing her to do her nazi stuff to perfect compound V and when she gets it right he’ll put her in her place just like Homelander. There’s more to him than we are seeing.
Why is NO ONE talking about how this job is KILLING Ashley. Shit got her hair falling out and needing help breathing. Homelander won’t need to kill her if something else doesn’t.
I'm super interested in seeing stormfront interact privately face to face with edgar with her being racist in all. In front of people she plays nice and over email it doesn't really show their dynamic, but I wonder how she'll treat him face to face. Like as you said is he her boss or is she his boss? Does she have any respect for him and vice versa? I wanna know what's the deal with that.
Bloofa ive could have sworn she said if I had killed that guy I would not have worried about it to long he would have been just another person in my way.
What if Stan Edgar really actually is vot but not completely like there was a brain transfer but it was in complete Stan has a lot vots knowledge but the rest of vot is brain is actually saved in a computer and Stan has compound injected in him but his super power is super intelligence
lamplightersaid in the episode that the doctor gave cindy the wrong dosage of propafol (sorry if I butchered that) and that's why she broke out as an excuse, so I'm guessing they were keeping her drugged so she wouldn't be strong enough to escape
I just hope they dont kill Cindy so soon. I kinda like her chaotic energy.
Same, she is my favorite supe. She is actually take the fight in her hands but sadly she is fucking up everything in her path
My favorite is Kimiko but Cindy is top 5
I think Maeve's line "Why are you looking at me like that?" is quite the high point. Every time it's her and Elena in the same scene, she feels very human and grounded and tender with her. And then Elena finds the footage from the plane and... Maeve tries to make up excuses and make her focus elsewhere and it all culminates into that "Why". I mean, any kind of human that isn't twisted would know why she's looking at her like that. Instead, they would have said "Please don't give me that look." But Maeve didn't. Seems like they wanted to highlight the inherent disconnect between regular humans and Supes.
If Stan is Frederick would it be possible that stormfronts plan is to transfer Frederick consciousness to homelander
I think this is a bit too much Westworldesque
This episode was perfect. So many closures. The back story of frenchie saving his best friend parallels to the story of annie saving hughie, there's always a sacrifice.
I won't lie. Got misty eyed when MM said why did you tell us.
This season is just getting better and better each episode.. I have no idea how will they will top season 2.
Lamplighter: Bobby Drake (Iceman) with Pyro's power (and lighter).
That’s exactly how I saw it
No
Exactly!
lamplighter is Green Lantern. In the comics The 7 are JL and Stormfron't old team Payback is the Avengers. StromFron't character is a Thor stand in. In the comics.
Comedic justice
Maybe the head of the church of collective has a power similar to professor X as in he can read people's minds or their worries and hence he acts like he knows everything about them
30:01 "His Super Power was becoming BLACK." - Mike Rougeau, 2020
What a fantastic super power
That was a Hitler Youth knife in the box.
It most likely belonged to StormFront’s daughter. Great detail
Should of looked for your comment before flagging my google search. My research agrees.
One thing about the trackers its know not to be a vitals tracker because when they kill translucent they took his out and they couldn't tell he was dead already they just knew the general location of his last known location
yeah, starlight is gonna be off the hook for a while.
Cindy going after Stormfront also with Kimiko.
Stormfront looked really scared after she lied to Homelander, 😂😁🤣😅, he was ready to show her his true power.
I think she was playing him, pretending to be scared so he will do what she wants.
18:44 I probably think it is because she cannot use her powers inside the room (unpowered room?) cuz Lamplighter just burns that door easy
The knife in Stormfront’s chest is either a Hitler Youth Knife or an SS knife.
my guess would be that the insides of the cells at Sage Grove are coated with zinc or some other metal that represses supe powers somehow
The Deep already gave a copy of that tape to the Church of the Collective. "Chaos is a ladder." Classic Petyr Baelish.
1. Stormfront wasn't his lover when she was under experimentation. Remeber, she says to homelander "he (fredrick vought) gave me the first V injection, he taought me everything and then we fell in love and he gave me a daughter".
2. somehow, i am still dubious that the old woman in the picture is actually her daughter. How can homelander's power transfer to his kid, and stormfront's power cannot. Which also raises another question: why are some kids allowed to have a normal life with their family, and kids like homelander are not. Did they inject him with some premium compound V stuff ?
We don't know if she was injected or how differently it reacts with an adult vs someone who's had it in them from the womb.
In episode 4 or 5 of season 2. Mauve and Homelander are talking and didn't he say they'd been doing this for decades?
Lebron Fan dumb comment
@Lebron Fan nah mate.. i think the first word butcher's son would utter, rhyme with shunt... just kidding.. but even butcher himself says so that, that kid is a spitting image of homelander.. also, the boy has blond hair, blue eyes, both are homelander's feature.
Simple genetics. Its the same way two people with blue eyes can have a child with brown eyes.
18:28 lamplighter said to stormfront that one of the orderlies messed up Cindy's sedation medicine and she got out again...
Lamplighter’s costume looks like something you would see in Stargirl. When they laughed at him, I couldn’t help but think of how bad Hour Man’s costume was.
The knife in Storefront's trunk is a bayonet for a Mauser rifle.....
Scott Hewitt it’s hitler youth, not the traditional K98 bayonet
@@andyboyd7511 Good catch - thank you!
@@andyboyd7511 so is that what the insignia is? Hitler Youth? Maybe it was her daughter's if not hers?
I can't wait to see Jensen Ackles with the actors and see him reunite with Eric Kripke in person.
I find it weird that no one knows that Stormfront is over 100 years old. It seems like she was a very high profile person even in the 30's.
About Cindy, I think she can only manipulate metal. That's how she was able to break the other doors but not her because her door was made of concrete.
Ok ok hear me out what if black noir is secretly Fredrick and nobody found out
they were laughing at him and she said you look good in those, i think he is a drag queen or cross dresser and he is ashamed of it
this episode is my new favorite episode of season 2
So if homelander's son ryan has superpowers then why stromfront's daughter adele isn't a supe?? maybe i am missing something or what?
yeah I was thinking that same thing
They said it that he is the first child born with superpowers.
We don't know if she got injected before she had her kid or after.
Homelander is special. Other supes don't give birth to supes.
I understood as, Stormfront was the 1st Supe - so the effect of Compound V works but it wasnt yet perfected.
It could also be:
Dosage amounts?
The genders could play a role.
Since being a Supe was literally brand new nature hadnt had time to course correct.
Im reminded of Dr Manhattan's speech of Oxygen into Gold ( how random and unlikely the circumstances are for someone like Laurie to be born ).
Also the medical advancements since the 30s.
I'd love seeing maeve fight stormfront,i just rewatched the s2 trailer and she is clearly punching stormfront in an open area which looks to be Grove facility's front area.think we gonna end up with maeve,A-train and deep on helping the boys alongside Lamplighter.add noir to the bunch and im legit team boys!
Lamplighter was incredible in this episode.
Is it possible that Compound V is actually Compound 5, roman numeral V and not the letter V. Meaning there are Compounds: I, II, III, IV as well? Possibly Stormfront is trying to make Compound VI?
It kinda shows how butcher actually has a heart and the one person that’s preventing him to go crazy is hugie
Now that Dave and Mike have revealed that in the comics the Boys end up taking V, I'm more confident the show is gonna go in this direction. My theory: One of the Boys is gonna take V because they are at the brink of death, because the show isn't going to make this easy for them. The first person that this comes to mind is Huey or Butcher.
Probabbly Butcher because there's the whole trope of becoming what you despise, in Butcher's case a supe. It would also give us this awesome fight at the end of the show with the two of them just really going at it.
MM will have nightmares till next episode is release because of that seen XD
LOVE SAUSAGE!!! He's awesome in the comic
@@Guerrilla_Grodd omg his $@$^ is so long what if anyone cuts it XD
Guerrilla Grodd sure, but in the show, they didn’t rub him the right way.
The part that hit hardest for me was stormfronts proclamation to homelander. Mostly because there are those in real life that agree with those sentiments and that's just disturbing.
To continue the theme of burrowing from other movies. Edgar is Vought (Get Out). Trying to create the perfect body to transfer his mind out of the Edgar body to.
Teddy Bear's Picnic dates back to the 1930's. My grandmother sang it to my dad then, when he was a kid. As a child, we made up a lot of different lyrics to it. A lot.
The knife in Stormfront's "chest 'o memories" is a German WWII bayonet, the diamond-shaped insignia on the handle is a "Hitler youth" insignia. If most adults die from V then she was likely given it when she was younger.
Notice how in the hospital bed scene, Hughie's nose is made to look really pointed like Black Noir's...
That was a touching moment with Starlight and Kimiko hugging. And the reaction to MM getting strangled by the penis was priceless
Great breakdown !!!!
Homelander literally has blond hair and blue eyes adding to his being the paragon of what you were saying Stormfront wants of her race of a million strong aryan (should Aryan be capitalized?) super soldiers.
omg I just know she's going to find out about Homelander's son and want him to join too..heck no lol
The puppers barking tho like "WE GON FIND OUT THO"
I commented about the kid being the one blowing up the agent's head but I agree if that's the thing there will be a plothole about her being used as an assassin and being imprisoned at the same time
28:20 The knife in question is a "Nazi Youth" Dagger. It was part of the uniform that the Nazi Party's "Boy Scouts" wore. The insignia in the handle is the swastika emblem on a field of white. This could point to the fact that Stormfront was a member of the Nazi Youth (she certainly is the right age) as it's members were usually between the age of 12 to 16. FYI At the end of the battle of Berlin, the Germans sent the Nazi Youth to the front to fight as part of the "Homeland Defense" force.
You said Joseph Gibbles 😂😂😂
Yoooo guys thanks for putting my comment up there, that's only the second time someone has put one of my comments up....
Is the teddy bear picnic not commonly known? They used to absolutely smash it on play school here in Australia
God damn it I now have the teddy bear picnic stuck in my head...thanks
Now that we know Stormfront's Nazi past properly, her earrings look like a throwback to SS lightning symbols for the Nazi organisation Schutzstaffel.
Lmao something about calling them a throwback made me laugh
I think Homelander ends up using Stormfront to kill Elena or something because in one of the trailers you see Maeve punching Stormfront
Maybe Alania had family on that plane that would kinda explain her reaction
Just finished! Such an intense episode
Elena probably had a familly member on the plain.
If they put a chip in her vital spot, then it would indicate that any supe could be killed by that method. Or at least hurt
Isnt the point of removing the chip that Annie isn’t going back to the 7?
Three predictions.
1. Stormfront and homelander are going to try to take Homelanders son and raise him as theirs. And they're probly going to kill the kids mom..
2. The female of the species kimiko , is going to rip out stormfronts eye . and Stormfront is going to kill her or put her in a coma.
3. At some point Stormfront is going to use her electricity attack on Starlight and instead of hurting her it's going to make her super powerful.
From ice power to fire power how ironic
Surprised Homelander was ok with having Lamplighter on the team. Similar to the blind hero he didn't like couldn't Homelander argue if someone threw water on Lamplighter's torch he'd be powerless/useless?
So iceman is now pyro
So Homelander is turning into Donald Chump lol
I think your missing the point of things lol
@@PlantationSensation Because clearly a man who missed the difference between "your" and "you're" would see the point of things, right?
12Daniel34 wow you can differentiate between your and you’re, yay that makes you so much better 🤦♀️. Smh idiotic grammar Nazi.
@@12Daniel34ok you win. You caught me. I misspelled a word and for that I will take the punishment. Kill me. I deserve it clearly.
@@MalindaPC Because it totally makes sense to believe someone's point of view is smart, when they can't even be bothered to learn how to spell. Not that you'd be able to grasp that you air headed moron.
It would feel weird that Lamplighter would be later revealed to be that much of a sexual deviant and yet still garner sympathy from Frenchie and MM. If they knew what the blackmail stuff was, why stop Mallory from killing him? Depends on what the blackmail stuff was.
Lamplighter is Stormfront's personal concentration camp incinerator
that guy was a random victim just like robin was. just someone on the way. very gross.
I have a theory, Frederick Vought didn't create Compound V. I think the real creator didn't want to work for nazi and took the perfect Compound V and run away. That would explain why Stormfront and Vought wasn't able to create another perfect Compound V
22:29 what if Maeve *does* use it to blackmail Homelander, and it backfires on her bc he kills Elaina??!
I still think Stormfront’s hiding how powerful she is. Idt Homelander’s as big of a threat to her as he thinks he is.
I think butch already has powers and thats why he locked out hughy and mm when he’s was about to fight noir and also explains how he kicks translucents ass
Have you guys heard of the boys spinoff series
Hey guys. I do belive the knife is a "Hitler Youth" knife. This is a bit confusing because only boys were in the Hitler Youth. The girls version of the Hitler Youth was called The Leauge of German Girls and they did wear uniform. However, I am not aware of them being issued Hitler Youth knives . SO, was she a man? Did she have a brother in the Htler Youth? Were girls also issued Hitler Youth knives? Was she a collector of Nazi memorabilia? As a contemporary of Hitler Vought would have been an adult after the Hitler Youth was formed. So, I don't know what this means. I found this: "Gradually the Aryan girls were joining their equivalent of the Hitler Youth - the Bund Deutscher Mädchen (League of German Girls) - and appeared in school in their new uniforms of navy blue skirts, white blouses, dark ties and white knee-length socks."
Dorothy Fleming
Holocaust Survivor; quote from Survival.
Queen Maeve is dying soon at the hands of Homelander. When she tries to blackmail him he won’t care because Stormfront is grooming Homelander to not give a fuck. This will be like when she attacked him with the sword in the comics and it didn’t do shit to Homelander then he killed her.
can somebody tell me how can i watch episode 6 with out amazom
By sailing the high seas, matey! *AHOY* !
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I still think that old man in the church from last episode was Frederick Vought
cindy is stormfronts daughter thats why she was used in the murder and storm front didn't hit her with a full blast we all see what she can do when she killed the females brothers
what if cindy remote viewed to spy on her like eleven did in ST
I love that they say Stormfront is from Portland, the most progressive city in America and she is literally the Most racist person in the world.
The actor that plays Lamplighter plays a real mutant whose ability is ice manipulation.
In the Boys he plays an artificially enhanced mutant whose ability is fire manipulation....
Coincidence?
thats a hitler youth knife and Hlut und ehre which means blood and honor
did he just spoil what lamplighter was being blackmailed about or did i miss something in the episode
No way Stan Edgar is being manipulated by Stormfront. If I had to guess, he’s been allowing her to do her nazi stuff to perfect compound V and when she gets it right he’ll put her in her place just like Homelander. There’s more to him than we are seeing.
black noir is stormfronts biological son and homelander is a clone created from her dna.
Cabin in the Woods, Sup Edition.
"I was right about another theory I had... hehe."
This is the modern day, Cindy Lauper origin story.
Why is NO ONE talking about how this job is KILLING Ashley. Shit got her hair falling out and needing help breathing. Homelander won’t need to kill her if something else doesn’t.
I'm super interested in seeing stormfront interact privately face to face with edgar with her being racist in all. In front of people she plays nice and over email it doesn't really show their dynamic, but I wonder how she'll treat him face to face. Like as you said is he her boss or is she his boss? Does she have any respect for him and vice versa? I wanna know what's the deal with that.
28:22 Hitler youth insignia on the knife...
But who killed Susan Raynor?
The Boys think Stormfront. They said it an ep or two ago. Her "weather" powers probably include increasing pressure and so... *pop* !
What if black noir is mr voight .......he gives orders to Edgar's not the other way around.
did translucent get a chip?
Yes. That’s why they shielded the room when they had him caged. That’s how they got so close to finding him.
maybe someone else has another zippo that say Itty Bitty
Stormfront does, actually. They showed it earlier this season.
I wonder what happens with Cindy and where she'll go after hopping in the car.
I'm here after watching episode 7 and what the fuck just happened
Did starlight kill that guy I thought she knocked him out?
Bloofa ive could have sworn she said if I had killed that guy I would not have worried about it to long he would have been just another person in my way.
Black Noir is Lenny...
What if Stan Edgar really actually is vot but not completely like there was a brain transfer but it was in complete Stan has a lot vots knowledge but the rest of vot is brain is actually saved in a computer and Stan has compound injected in him but his super power is super intelligence
When Butcher killed Emt burst kid I figured he gives no more fucks he's as bad as Homelander
'joseph gibbels' haha
Joseph gibbles?
I hope Cindy isn’t evil and racist she seemed cool >.
Is Fresca SLURM?