How to Set-up the Smith SilverSmith Acetylene Torch
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- Learn how to set up your Smith® Silver Smith™ Acetylene and Air Torch properly and effectively with the help of Mark Nelson. Watch as Mark demonstrates the proper safety precautions for setting up and inspecting your tank and regulator for leaks, anchoring and attaching the hose to your tank, turning the gas on and off and shutting down the tank.
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Thanks for sharing a very informative "how to" on using acetylene torch tanks. It has been over 2 yrs. since I was able to try to use my tanks. I have done lots of silver smithing in the past and I was a bit nervous since I hadn't used them in a while. Your step by step video gave what I needed to go turn on my tanks and viola it all went smoothly!
Thank you for this video! Every time I have to change out or move my tank, I watch this video again. :)
An excellent, straightforward presentation! Thank you!
You are great teacher, I was a bit unsure about getting this set up. But I found out butane makes me sick 😷. So I will switch I love creating jewelry. Thanks so much.
thanks for your expertise! !!
great tutorial with clean instructions. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
Just purchased this kit, thanks for the video.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Thank you.
Thanks.. found out that this torch is the same as Smith Handy Heet which us what I have. I'm glad I watched the video because I was not turning system off correctly! Thanks again
Thank you!! Way more informative than the Smith owner's manual!
You are most welcome!
Thanks great video
Nice job keep up thanks
Thank for this tutorial. I now know the proper gauge settings for soldering silver, and I discovered I had a small leak where my gauge hooks to the tank.
You make everything look so simple! I wish I could take a class from you!
You can! We hold classes throughout the year in our Albuquerque, NM facility :) Check out this link for more information and let us know if you have any questions, at all!
www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=classes
Thanks for the great, comprehensive video!! Could you please explain why the system doesn’t need a flashback arrestor?
Great question! The Smith SilverSmith Torch has only one compressed fuel, acetylene, and it uses the air around the tip as the oxidizer. You will notice that you buy flash back arrestors in pairs, one for the fuel and one for the oxygen. Single tank torches are not prone to flash backs because once the fuel is shut off there is nothing that can continue to burn. We hope this answers your question, but please let us know if you have any others.
Rio Grande is the Best!!! :)
Thank you, +Sono Arima! :D
After depressurizing the system by bleeding the line from the torch knob, do you re-tighten the torch knob before replacing the tip? Thanks for posting.
Mark your videos and your style of delivery are just the best..grew up in Los Alamos. Is that torch the best for brazing small items made of aluminum or other materials...I'm just getting started.
Hi Rick, We have a great article available about getting started with soldering that you might enjoy. You can find it here: www.riogrande.com/content/FAQS-For-Beginning-Torch-Soldering-jpg Hope this helps & don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else we can do to help. Thanks for watching.
Super helpful, thanks.
I lost the adjustment screw for the regulator unfortunately. Is it a standard one that I can buy from a hardware store? If not do you sell replacement parts?
Hi, thanks for your relaxed way of explaining. I hear a bang when you both ignite and turn on the flame. Is that just background noise or does the torch make a small "explosion".
Hello Eivind, There is a small ignition sound when the torch is lit, and also a similar sound when it's turned off. This may be slightly accentuated in the video. Thanks for watching!
Great video but I have a question that how long can we keep on using that burner or torch?I mean can we keep on igniting it for hours or do we need to give it a rest?it is dangerous to keep it on ignition for hours because it could get too hot or can we use it for as long as we want?
What should I use for gold, i know this has silver in the name, will it work for melting down gold to cast too? esp. with the bigger tip, any info or tips on a torch that i should get/use let me know thanks!
Seems like a great video, but I only got as far as trying to screw the regulator onto the tank. When I do as you advise, even when I’ve screwed it on, really really tightly, maybe too tightly, the regulator itself seems to be hanging and not firmly engaged. What am I doing wrong?
Can someone tell me what size torch tip I need. I have a #00 and it seems to not be enough heat to soder bezel to base.
Which part do you remove before u bring it for refill?
What tip do I need to solder small jewelry project? The one that came with torch set up os to small, I have a #2 tip and it’s to big and to hot. Please help me . I bought it from Rio Grande.
What stand is everyone using for this torch? I saw he just put it on the table but I don’t want to burn anything after it gets so hot!
How do you clean to tips? I have used pipe cleaners and these small metal tip cleaners but I have a lot of soot build up on some of my tips.
Hello, we will ask our Jewelry Tech Team and get back to you with an answer!
3:05 I never knew what those notches on the nut meant.
Thank you for the video. Where can I find the holder for the torch handle? I don't want something to sit on top of my workbench table, rather, I'd like for the clip/holder to be mounted on the side of my workbench. I can't seem to locate one. Thank you.
Unfortunately at the moment we do not currently have a torch holder for the acetylene air torch that fits on the side of the bench.
Is it safe to drain a tank of acetylene?
I’ve had this kit for several years now. It used to sound and look exactly like yours. I didn’t use my tank or torch for a couple years and it was left in my shed. I replaced my tank at the local shop and now ever since then, I go to light it after opening the tank and torch (I hear the gas coming out) and it is a yellow/orange fluffy and sooty flame. Little spot worms come out with the flame. It used to look and sound just like yours with the right blue flame. I won’t use it because of this. What am I doing wrong? Psi set to 12 and followed all the steps to a T
Thank you for the question. Here is a response from Phil in our tech team: I would try another tip to see if that tip is possibly clogged. Also if the tank was lying down it could have acetone that has leaked into the regulator if it wasn’t sitting up for several hours before use. If the tank is low in fuel that could also be an issue. A fluffy flame indicates low pressure. If the torch has been sitting, the tip could be dirty or clogged causing a decrease in pressure.
If I have the smith little torch, is there any other different consideration I should take to set up my tanks?
Hi Allyson, This video on How To Set Up a Propane / Oxygen Torch will be helpful: th-cam.com/video/AX4rGAOc0qc/w-d-xo.html
You may also find these videos with Bruce Buhler helpful. He demonstrates lighting the Smith Little Torch in two parts, using Propane and also Acetylene.
Part 1: Propane th-cam.com/video/Ih-5fMLMEKc/w-d-xo.html
Part 2: Acetylene th-cam.com/video/THgExtwB4fk/w-d-xo.html
If you have questions about set up, our Jewelry Tech Team is also available to answer your questions. They can be reached at 800.545.6566-7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Mountain ... Monday through Friday (just ask for our Jewelry Tech Team). Hope this helps!
I have a smith little torch and use a acetylene and oxygen set up. I am just getting started so it might be a dumb question. I only see one tank in this set up. is this just pure acetylene or mixed?
Hi Julie - Great question! This is a torch that uses Acetylene as the fuel and it draws atmospheric air through small holes at the base of the tip to use as the oxidized.
Flashback arrester?
what about flashback arrestors? are they not necessary on this torch for some reason?
Hey there, +rooster kliewer! Thanks for reaching out :) The flashback arrestors aren't necessary for acetylene because only 1 gas is being used and little pressure is required to draw it back into the hose when turned off.
You can definitely add the flashback arrestor to the Acetylene Air kit, though. The flashback will fit on the regulator. Does that help? Let us know if we can provide any more info!
Thanks, Mark. Today I noticed that my left gauge (pressure in the hose) was at zero but the right gauge (how much acetylene in the tank) was reading full. I thought I had bled the lines so that both needles were at zero last time I used the torch but panicked when I saw this today. What did I do wrong??
Hi. Typically it’s possible that the tank wasn’t closed all the way. Some tanks ( especially “B” tanks) can be tough to fully close all the way an gas can seep into the regulator. So try closing it a little tighter to see if It happens again. You might find that the next tank you get will be a easier to close all the way… it varies from tank to tank.
-Mark
Rio Grande thanks Mark. I do appreciate your experience and guidance.
@@pjwhaletail You're very welcome.
Hi I just got my handi heet torch. The base of the tips have holes in them, is it normal that gas leaks out from it? I tried checking it with the fluid and there are bubbles coming out. I just want to confirm
Yes, that's normal. The holes at the base of the tip are where the atmospheric air enters the torch tip and mixes with the acetylene to produce the flame. When the acetylene is flowing a slight amount will come out of these holes, but once the torch is lit, the air will keep any flame from coming out those holes. Hope this helps!
What happens if you forget to loosen pressure valve when turning off the torch and when you go to turn it on again the pressure was already tight. This happened to me but I only had my pressure set to 5 psi. Is the regulator damaged ?
there shouldn't be any damage if the regulator is still holding pressure. Damage to the regulator would occur over time if you’re not releasing the pressure on a regular basis.
Hope this is helpful!
After shutting everything down as described and bleeding the lines, the gauges read zero. When returning the next day, the gauge closest to the tank shows pressure while the other does not. What is going on here? Is it a faulty tank releasing gas to the regulator?
Hi Eric, Thanks for your question. We talked to our Jewelry Tech Team, and they said this could be a faulty valve on the tank releasing into the regulator. If you'd like help with that, or to order a new one, please let us know or call one of our agents in the Customer Call Center at 800-545-6566 or our Live Chat feature at www.riogrande.com , both available 7am-6pm MST M-F. Hope this helps!
I have an oxy acetylene setup for steel work. I’d like to start making silver jewelry and use my tanks, but do I just use the acetylene and not the oxy? Is that to much heat for silver soldering?
you can use Acetylene/Oxy set up for jewelry, that's what I've used for years. i would check out the little smith torch for jewelry
Thank you. I bought the little smith torch. Works great. I may change to a propane setup because the oxy is just so dirty and makes soot around my shop
Where do i buy the acetylene tank...is it something that I would get locally?
Hi There, Thanks for your question. Yes, we recommend contacting your local industrial gas or welding supply company for this need. Hope this helps!
Would recommend Airgas who is nationwide. I have at least 4 local gas/welding supplies store in town, you can always shop around for the best service.
Just got mine and the flame keeps going out every time I move the torch. If I keep it perfectly still it has a perfect strong flame though which is puzzling me. Any ideas? I tried all 5 tips all brand new as well and same thing happened. Maybe the regulator or the torch handle?
Just we are sorry to here about these issuses. We will pass this information along to our Tech Tean and get you their advice.
Hello, we had a chance to speak with our Tech Team and they said that they would like to know what pressures you are seeing on the guages? Both the oxygen pressure and the propane pressure. They said if the pressures are too high that could be an issue. . Let us know and we can try and assist you or you give us a call at 1.800.545.6566 and ask to talk with the tech team about your torch issue. We would be happy to help!
I just purchase this kit and am having quite a bit of trouble getting the regulator to stick straight out once screwed on. Currently, when I attached the regulator the nut is snug to the threads, yet the gauges are drooping/not sticking straight out and rotate around, falling forward and backwards. I am wondering if there is potentially something wrong with the regulator or the tank or if I am doing something wrong. Is the entire tapered end up to the hexagon ring of the regulator actually suppose to fit inside the opening where the gas comes out or just the tapered end? Thanks for the help.
When I go to test for leaks, I'm getting very small bubbles, but everything is as tight as I can get it. Is that normal to have little bubbles that go away fast, or should there be absolutely no bubbles?
Hello Ashley. Mark says that when testing for leaks you can still get small bubble that stick to the surface of the hose and other components due to surface tension. What you want to look out for are bubbles that grow or that are being created...new bubbles. We hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any other questions. Stay safe!
@@RioGrande1944 thank you! This does help tons.
can i use this to blaze the refrigerant copper pipe?
Hi, Paul! Thanks for reaching out. Yes! You can use the smith silver smith torch for brazing of copper pipe. It might be on the larger side, but the flame is hot enough for brazing copper pipe. Let us know if we can help you with anything further!
I am new to all this. Where can buy it?
Hi again! You can find all these products on our website at www.riogrande.com. Feel free to call in if you have any questions! You can reach us at 800-545-6566.
What tip comes with this torch?????
Hi Deborah, Thanks for asking. This torch comes with the #00 tip. You can see everything in the kit listed in the details here: www.riogrande.com/product/smith-silversmith-acetylene-and-air-torch-kit-without-tank/500105
This link shows the other tips available: www.riogrande.com/search?q=smith®+SilverSmith™+Acetylene&c=&t=1&pageSize=32
Please let us know if there's anything else we can do to help.
i have a smith torch but the silver does not get hot enough to pour into mold fully why??
Hi Charlie, Thanks for watching. If the metal is not hot enough, you will need more heat. Our Jewelry Tech Team suggests you may try to increase the oxygen pressure a little to possibly get a little higher temp from your torch. When using the acetylene air torch, a larger tip will be needed. Hope this helps!
that helps thank you
im using a #1 tip
What happens if I use propane?
The SilverSmith acetylene/air torch is not compatible with propane. The orifices in the torch tips require much higher pressures than a propane tank can push which can be very dangerous. The torches that we carry that can be used with propane are:
Smith Little Torch: www.riogrande.com/Product/Smith-Little-Torch-Propane-or-Natural-Gas-and-Oxygen-Set/500027
Swiss torch: www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=Swiss%20Torch
Meco: www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=meco
And for casting, this product: www.riogrande.com/Product/Smith-Propane-Casting-Torch-System-for-Platinum/500324
It really all depends on what you wish to use it for. The Little torch is not recommended for large jewelry objects or for casting anything over a couple ozt of silver. If you have questions about this, we recommend contacting Rio's Jewelry Tech Team. hey can be reached at 800.545.6566-7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Mountain ... Monday through Friday (ask for our Jewelry Tech Team).
If this torch were hooked to a propane tank; simply it could cause a serious problem. Using this torch with propane could cause a flash back and an explosion.
Wait...the tank comes full?! Please say yes...
Hi Brenda, Thanks for watching. The tank included with the Smith Silver Smith Acetylene and Air Torch Kit with Tank does ship empty. Hope this helps.
so u don't put threading tape on before screwing on reg?
Hi Ashley! Correct! You don’t need thread sealing tape. The fittings are compression fittings, so you don't need to use tape on the regulator to tank fitting. Let us know if we can provide any more info!
I have noticed you are doing wrong three things; First you should open the valve on tank for one second to blow out any dirt before instaling regulators because this dirt can come and stuck into regulators. Second, you are opening the valve on tank to quick so you can damage the regulator gauges. Third the igniter you should put sideway and not in front of torch when igniting.
That's not a quarter turn. It'a half-turn.