Wondering why my concrete surface where I had applied the ice melt which is an Ace hardware product looked wet for about 3 days. There was no rain or condensation or sprinkling of any kind but the area where I had put the ice melter down look like I had just thrown a bucket of water on the concrete and it stayed that way for about three days thanks very much
Mag chloride as a brine sprayed over top of salt will help activate it when it's real cold. Dry salt just won't do anything different than sand unless it has a pre-wet or the snow is wet to start with. Also, if you look for kiln dried salt, you'll have much more sucess in making it disolve in a liquid suspension or brine. State agencies that use sanders with salt in them typically have a pre-wet added as it is applied. Something like 200 lbs of salt per lane mile with 10 gallons of mag chloride or brine of some kind per ton dispensed. It works best when there is some traffic grinding the salt into the road. Of course traffic is calculated into the equation, less traffic, more mag per ton etc.
Sodium Chloride (cheapest of the salts) mixed in with water (salt brine) works awesome. One bag of S.C. makes approx 3 times what I would use in just salt alone. Spray it with my sprayer. Works almost instantly rather than waiting for the salts themselves to start working. Most bang for the buck. Never going back to just salts.
@@TransAmDrifter In chemical terms, all of those are salts. NaCl or sodium chloride is the one culturally called salt, a fine ground version would be called table salt.
I use the upside down bag you didn’t test. Water softener ice, cheap and works. Here in Canada I have put it on solid 4” of ice and it melts right down to asphalt and pellets are still whole.
Also, the water conditioning and Ice Bomb are Extra Coarse - a bigger size. The Purple Heat and Turbo are coarse, which is smaller. They are both the same grade of salt. Extra Coarse is designed for tailgate spreaders / commercial use. Coarse is what most ice melt is - and is used on sidewalk and handheld spreaders.
Awesome video. I live in MN and never even knew all these options existed. I'm a bit bummed winter is coming, was just getting the hang of this lawn care stuff. Atleast now I can buy the right ice melt for our coming season.
Mean Green. Thanks for watching. It is a little surprising how many options there really are. Now is a great time to prep that lawn for winter. Getting the right ice melt will help!!! I've seen a few salt burn from ice melt running in peoples lawns.
@@pestandlawnginja/videos Are there any protective sprays, treatments, or tips for protecting lawns around drives and walkways from the salting to come?
The maintenance guy at one of the offices I clean needs to watch this. That guy uses an insane amount of salts. I swept up an area of 18 square feet outside the front doors to get an idea of how much he's really putting out there, and I ended up with 7 lbs. It's so bad that i have to mop the floors inside 3-4 times to get all of it cleaned up.
Nice video.. If you ever need to melt ice on turf or anywhere really try using black beauty / black sand. It works well & wont harm the grass! We've been using this method for years at the golf course.
What a great video, with great info. We moved to Gaylord, MI (middle of the snow belt!) in October and our driveway has a pretty steep incline. I appreciate the info and will grab some calcium chloride today. We've been using the magnesium chloride, which is good, but I'm all for better. 😊
Good stuff! I have a client for snow/ice removal that has lawns and pavement with no curbing divider. They want no ice on the driveway, but want to avoid killing the lawns on the edges. We have been applying a sand / salt mixture to reduce the amount of salt used. I might offer them calcium chloride, though it looks as though the cost would be nearly 3×?
Great info, thanks for putting that up! I just put in a new driveway and sidewalk this year so this was really good timing. I have one concern about the Ice-Away Turbo. I would imagine the sodium chloride in it could be a problem for a driveway less than a year old...
Most ice melts are going to be a problem with a drive way less than one year old. If you are to use anything I would stick to magnesium chloride or the peladow. The products replace the water that gets in the pores of the concrete. The more the water expands and contracts the greater the chance you have of cracking the concrete. Concrete is always in a state of hardening. So as the years pass the harder and the pores get smaller it gets. If I were in your situation I wouldn't apply ice melt of any sort for the first 2 to 3 seasons.
Great suggestion! The salt can stay for a long while but its the quantity of what stays vs how much water / snow is coming down. you'll need to re apply after every snow from my experience.
great question. it all depends on if you go with water or electric lines. It also depends on how much the cost of concrete is going for these days. so many details and its regional specific. wish i could give you an idea but i˜m not sure
not a ton you can do about that. I suggest applying it just before the snow fall. Its meant to prevent ice or break ice down. not necessary control it during the melt off.
at the end you can hear the oxygen popping from the hydrogen heating up. that is why it was crackling..... not to much hydrogen. if it was more hydrogen , then you would hear it sound off like a string of firecrackers. plus the reason it was sdtill icey looking, is because it was [ compacted snow into ice] .
I'm sure it wasn't a huge determining Factor but your measurement of each product was most likely slightly off due to the granular size difference and the fact that you're laying it out according to a measuring cup most likely meant for liquids. You should have physically Weighed each product on a scale individually. Like I said probably not a huge difference due to the small quantity that you are testing but you never know
The reason Calcium Chloride got hot is that it is more exothermic than salt or mag. However, it will also burn hands and paws THE SAME WAY when it goes into solution from moisture on skin. It is also more harsh on concrete than mag or salt because it melts fast, but also refreezes fast when the melted water dilutes the calcium chloride. It tends to erode / spall concrete faster. As with many products, features and benefits have to be weighed with considerations and concerns.
Wind chill is a measure of how the temperature feels on human or animal skin. The heat index is the same concept in the summer. Neither affect actual surface temperatures.
You should really get a laser thermometer. It’s nearly the price of the human one. If you have Harbor Freight stores in Canada, they have them for under $30 and will accurately temp everything, including cooking and if you want to check things like a wood stove or your freezer. You can purchase from them online if you’re interested. That store is great for tools you’ll rarely use, and they offer warranty services for everything also!
Even just a cheap $5 thermometer at the auto parts store would work great. They sell them in the air conditioning section, used to check AC output. WIll read any temperature between 20 and 120 usually.
How do I create it into a liquid so I can use it in my sprayer do I just put a couple cups of water in and a couple cups of the product in my sprayer how do I do it, what is the recommended formula?
It will all depend on the product you choose to use and the area it recommends. You'll need to do some math as well. I personally have tested it with 3 cups of granular to 4 gallons of water and it worked great. You need to stir it until all the granular has disolved properly perfor spraying anything.
I work as a truck driver and i the winter i plow/salt the highway. You want to make a salt water solution. You can only dissolve 30% salt into water, and the best way is to boil the water and salt while mixing. When its not very cold, you can use the solution to melt the ice. When the temperature drops, the solution will be watered out from the ice melting, and you will only make it worse. So what we do is to spread dry salt on the ice to get it really concentrated, and then spray solution on it to get the melting process starting. This is quick, and will melt ice when its really cold. Hope this helps. Ps, allways buy the cheapest salt you can get, cause it makes no difference (as long as its pure salt).
GREAT info! I didn't realize there were different types. I NEVER use ice melt because it destroys concrete. I had to use some last year because we had a winter rain and it froze overnight making a skating rink out of my sidewalk. This spring the grass along that sidewalk was all dead...
Hey Steve!!! Love that you watched this video in August. Yes, sooo many choices these days. The salt damage is ruthless! Spend a little extra money now and you don't have damage control later.
I poor concrete for a living and yes salts it worst enemy but if you seal your concrete every few years you can salt it. We run into home owners who tell us there gonna seal it and don’t and you can see were they drive on it the next spring Mn winters are tuff on slabs road salt. Sealed ones look great yet
I’m trying to help an older woman neighbor who has ice all over her driveway, looks like 2-3 inches thick. Can I just walk over there and spread some of my blue heat, would it melt all the ice on one go or would I need to add more for extra applications?
That's a tough situation. you'll want a solution that heats up and its going to take multiple application to get it all broken down. if you would like to speed up the process i would suggest you create a brine solution and spray it between apps if possible.
after using an ACE Hardware product "ice melter" which is a mix of sodium chloride, mag. chloride, hexahydrate, and MG104 my steps look like they have just been hosed down, a 'wet' look to it and this is after 3 days since application of the ice melter product. is this dangerous or damaging? should i scrub it off? how do i get rid of it? thank you.
Little bit of everything: Prestone Driveway Heat. SARA Section 311/312 Hazard Classes. Water (7732-18-5) Calcium chloride (10043-52-4) Sodium chloride (7647-14-5) Strontium chloride (SrCl2) (10476-85-4) Calcium hydroxide (1305-62-0) Prestone Driveway Heat - Public Salt publicsalt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/prestone-driveway-heat-sds-3.pdf
The only problem that I find with the calcium chloride is that it is not pet safe. I made the mistake of using it at my house and my pet's Paws became irritated
yup, calcium chloride is a better choice. will not damage concrete will not damage the lawn at the end you can hear the oxygen popping from the hydrogen heating up. that is why it was crackling..... not to much hydrogen. if it was more hydrogen , then you would hear it sound off like a string of firecrackers.
@@pestandlawnginja Not sure what you are looking for. A non corrosive product safe for deck screws, turf and pets is going to cost more. That's what we do -- it works to -15°F.
Your information about the different products is not exactly correct. Purple Heat has flake magnesium chloride in it - it is not top coated as you say. It has twice the magnesium chloride as Turbo has. There is a difference between eutectic melting temperature and practical melting temperatures. Different companies report differently. Not to say any are accurate or inaccurate - one can request lab test verification if wanted.
Even using an outdoor thermometer is useless as the water temps won't change from adding the salts or chlorides. What I'd really like to see is u pouring that stuff on blocks of ice for a side-by-side comparison, which is what I assumed u were going to do in this video when u had the various products dissolved in the vessels of cold water. When u poured only the one solution on the ice, but not any of the others, I felt a bit disappointed.
Preventing ice is a lot more predictable than removing it. Labels are always wrong because the industry isn't regulated. FYI, Ice melts don't work until they dissolve until a liquid (when it's cold they won't dissolve at all).
The magnesium chloride is slightly safe for cats paws than the calcium chloride. IMO both are good products. The calcium chloride doesn't track as easily into the house.
I can see why there is a misunderstanding by my speech. I appreciate you bringing that up. The peladow is rated to -25F per the specs. Most of the bags all the bags are rated to F and down to 0F. That's why I was saying that you can't trust the bag labels in the salt only categories because there good down to 15F and no more IMO. Thanks for the comment.
Manganese doesn't do anything to snow and ice , What he meant to say was Magnesium chloride, He should study before posting on TH-cam , manganese on the other hand helps inhibit dry rot and stiffens aluminum in the making of cans , Kids, please do your homework
Dishonest clickbait: "You're doing it wrong". There's nothing in the video where he explains how people are doing it wrong. To presume that he's the only one that knows how to do it correctly is rather prideful for sure!
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I definitely could have used some of the stuff here in Illinois the past day or two when it hit negative 21 Below without the wind chill
Try sparkling water, it helps aswell
yikes!
interesting. I have never tried that!
Wondering why my concrete surface where I had applied the ice melt which is an Ace hardware product looked wet for about 3 days. There was no rain or condensation or sprinkling of any kind but the area where I had put the ice melter down look like I had just thrown a bucket of water on the concrete and it stayed that way for about three days thanks very much
Mag chloride as a brine sprayed over top of salt will help activate it when it's real cold. Dry salt just won't do anything different than sand unless it has a pre-wet or the snow is wet to start with. Also, if you look for kiln dried salt, you'll have much more sucess in making it disolve in a liquid suspension or brine. State agencies that use sanders with salt in them typically have a pre-wet added as it is applied. Something like 200 lbs of salt per lane mile with 10 gallons of mag chloride or brine of some kind per ton dispensed. It works best when there is some traffic grinding the salt into the road. Of course traffic is calculated into the equation, less traffic, more mag per ton etc.
Great comment!
Sodium Chloride (cheapest of the salts) mixed in with water (salt brine) works awesome. One bag of S.C. makes approx 3 times what I would use in just salt alone. Spray it with my sprayer. Works almost instantly rather than waiting for the salts themselves to start working. Most bang for the buck. Never going back to just salts.
Yes. I'm going to make a video of me doing that too
How can You say that NaCl is better than salt? =D sodium chloride is salt hehehe
@@TransAmDrifter Because there is more than one kind of salt, not just NaCl. Take a chemistry class. hehehe
I would think this is the most cost effective method
@@TransAmDrifter In chemical terms, all of those are salts. NaCl or sodium chloride is the one culturally called salt, a fine ground version would be called table salt.
I use the upside down bag you didn’t test. Water softener ice, cheap and works. Here in Canada I have put it on solid 4” of ice and it melts right down to asphalt and pellets are still whole.
I find it works great as long as you don't have sub zero temps. Cheap too!
Ermanno D'Angelo I live in upstate New York and I’m dying for a solution to get rid of this compacted snow and ice by my garage
How do you make a 15 minute video on rock salt? That’s what I learned here
way to many words that's how 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
Also, the water conditioning and Ice Bomb are Extra Coarse - a bigger size. The Purple Heat and Turbo are coarse, which is smaller. They are both the same grade of salt. Extra Coarse is designed for tailgate spreaders / commercial use. Coarse is what most ice melt is - and is used on sidewalk and handheld spreaders.
I can see your point
Awesome video. I live in MN and never even knew all these options existed. I'm a bit bummed winter is coming, was just getting the hang of this lawn care stuff. Atleast now I can buy the right ice melt for our coming season.
Mean Green. Thanks for watching. It is a little surprising how many options there really are. Now is a great time to prep that lawn for winter. Getting the right ice melt will help!!! I've seen a few salt burn from ice melt running in peoples lawns.
@@pestandlawnginja/videos Are there any protective sprays, treatments, or tips for protecting lawns around drives and walkways from the salting to come?
I just use sand, really cheap you can walk and drive on it. Doesn't screw up cement and plant life
Sand works great too
The maintenance guy at one of the offices I clean needs to watch this. That guy uses an insane amount of salts. I swept up an area of 18 square feet outside the front doors to get an idea of how much he's really putting out there, and I ended up with 7 lbs. It's so bad that i have to mop the floors inside 3-4 times to get all of it cleaned up.
Hahaha. I posted an instagram pic 0f a similar situation.
If it's a Business more is better.. Someone's always looking to gain a payday falling on ice!
@@19TL85 people need to undrstand this. 7 pounds for an area that small is excessive but I'm sure he goes over the tap for this exact reason.
Adding salt doesn't change the temperature of water it just changes the freezing point....
true
nothing gets by this guy! nice!
@@jakegump hahaha. Nope
all Fine and dandy, but a lot of times we can only buy what is available locally.
I hear that
Just as a safety precaution: Please be cautious and always put gloves on .
thanks for the feedback
Nice video.. If you ever need to melt ice on turf or anywhere really try using black beauty / black sand. It works well & wont harm the grass! We've been using this method for years at the golf course.
great advice! I'll have to try it out
Great channel, glad to have found it! Good things to come!
Thanks jimmies rustled!
After you spray the Calcium Chloride on the driveway, how long will it melt any new snow?
One storm really. It gets dilutedafter each storm
What a great video, with great info. We moved to Gaylord, MI (middle of the snow belt!) in October and our driveway has a pretty steep incline. I appreciate the info and will grab some calcium chloride today. We've been using the magnesium chloride, which is good, but I'm all for better. 😊
Thanks Rachel!!! Please keep in mind that all salts have potential to cause harm. Be sure to not over apply the calcium chloride.
Can I make a saline water and pour in the driveway instead of sprinkling salt crystals ? I think it could work
Never know until you try it! Make a video!
Thanks for making this video, was pretty helpful
Glad you liked it!
Welcome back!
Mark Aguglia thanks! More to come.
Hello thanks for a great content. My question is are these safe for the lawn.
If you stay within the label specification the magnesium chloride and calcium chloride are safest for the lawn.
Good stuff!
I have a client for snow/ice removal that has lawns and pavement with no curbing divider.
They want no ice on the driveway, but want to avoid killing the lawns on the edges.
We have been applying a sand / salt mixture to reduce the amount of salt used.
I might offer them calcium chloride, though it looks as though the cost would be nearly 3×?
I bought some ice melter today made by Project Source. Left it outside in -7 degree weather overnight and it froze solid.
LOL it happens
Ok, thanks for your help..
anytime!
What about CMA?
Calcium magnesium acetate?
Is that a good product to use on cement driveways as an ice melt?
I need to try that and see
Great info, thanks for putting that up! I just put in a new driveway and sidewalk this year so this was really good timing. I have one concern about the Ice-Away Turbo. I would imagine the sodium chloride in it could be a problem for a driveway less than a year old...
Most ice melts are going to be a problem with a drive way less than one year old. If you are to use anything I would stick to magnesium chloride or the peladow. The products replace the water that gets in the pores of the concrete. The more the water expands and contracts the greater the chance you have of cracking the concrete. Concrete is always in a state of hardening. So as the years pass the harder and the pores get smaller it gets. If I were in your situation I wouldn't apply ice melt of any sort for the first 2 to 3 seasons.
Thanks, I was just coming to that conclusion myself. I'll put a sealer on it next year...
sounds like a good plan. The sealer will help against staining too. Win Win
Thanks for the tips
You're welcome Ross! Have a great day
Nice video. However, it would have been nice to know how long this stuff lasts. We don't get very much snow so I'm completely new to this.
Great suggestion! The salt can stay for a long while but its the quantity of what stays vs how much water / snow is coming down. you'll need to re apply after every snow from my experience.
Rates of application are different for different products. Higher performance products tend to have less needed per square yard than straight salt.
Indeed. I made a followup video to talk about that a bit more
How much is a heated sidewalk? How long will it take to recoup your money on salt or paying someone for an average home in the north.
great question. it all depends on if you go with water or electric lines. It also depends on how much the cost of concrete is going for these days. so many details and its regional specific. wish i could give you an idea but i˜m not sure
learn something new every day!
awesome Jake! Thanks for the comment.
i use to putt salt down before the snow came when it was done i had nothing to deal with
That can work. In my area we get too much rain before the snow so it doesn't work great.
Thank you
Grammar: YOUR ice (you own it). YOU'RE (you are) removing the ice. Good advice on melting ice! Thanks
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What about runoff? How do i get it to stick to ground?
not a ton you can do about that. I suggest applying it just before the snow fall. Its meant to prevent ice or break ice down. not necessary control it during the melt off.
Can you store the Calcium Chloride/ water mix in a back pack sprayer? Or do you only make the mix as you need to? Great video..
I personally wouldn't store it in the backpack. It may cause corrosion to some of the parts of the pump. I personally just mix what I need.
13:28 You can immediately see... it.... it's still frozen solid
hahaha, yah. It took a few minutes and I was to lazy to take the footage.
at the end you can hear the oxygen popping from the hydrogen heating up. that is why it was crackling..... not to much hydrogen.
if it was more hydrogen , then you would hear it sound off like a string of firecrackers.
plus the reason it was sdtill icey looking, is because it was [ compacted snow into ice] .
Lol
good observation!!!
Wood ashes is the best and cheapest for melting ice.
Interesting. I've never tried that before.
hmmm, sounds messy, but I'll try it.
I'm sure it wasn't a huge determining Factor but your measurement of each product was most likely slightly off due to the granular size difference and the fact that you're laying it out according to a measuring cup most likely meant for liquids. You should have physically Weighed each product on a scale individually.
Like I said probably not a huge difference due to the small quantity that you are testing but you never know
great feedback
The reason Calcium Chloride got hot is that it is more exothermic than salt or mag. However, it will also burn hands and paws THE SAME WAY when it goes into solution from moisture on skin. It is also more harsh on concrete than mag or salt because it melts fast, but also refreezes fast when the melted water dilutes the calcium chloride. It tends to erode / spall concrete faster. As with many products, features and benefits have to be weighed with considerations and concerns.
yes it gets surprisingly hot. couldn't agree more.
What about the new stuff that uses beet juice it is supposed to be the best for concrete and pets
I'd have to call dwight schrute for that answer. 😂😂😂 in all seriousness I've never tried it.
Do these temps go according to actual temp or wind chill? Wind chill can often go beyond -25
Its outside temps. Which in my opinion, windchill could and most likely will affect.
Wind chill is a measure of how the temperature feels on human or animal skin. The heat index is the same concept in the summer. Neither affect actual surface temperatures.
You should really get a laser thermometer. It’s nearly the price of the human one. If you have Harbor Freight stores in Canada, they have them for under $30 and will accurately temp everything, including cooking and if you want to check things like a wood stove or your freezer. You can purchase from them online if you’re interested. That store is great for tools you’ll rarely use, and they offer warranty services for everything also!
That's a great suggestion
Even just a cheap $5 thermometer at the auto parts store would work great. They sell them in the air conditioning section, used to check AC output. WIll read any temperature between 20 and 120 usually.
Soo sodium is good for moderate ice, magnesium is best for asphalt and pet safety, and calcium decimates everything.....
simply put, calcium chloride heats up faster than the others.
How do I create it into a liquid so I can use it in my sprayer do I just put a couple cups of water in and a couple cups of the product in my sprayer how do I do it, what is the recommended formula?
It will all depend on the product you choose to use and the area it recommends. You'll need to do some math as well. I personally have tested it with 3 cups of granular to 4 gallons of water and it worked great. You need to stir it until all the granular has disolved properly perfor spraying anything.
I work as a truck driver and i the winter i plow/salt the highway. You want to make a salt water solution. You can only dissolve 30% salt into water, and the best way is to boil the water and salt while mixing. When its not very cold, you can use the solution to melt the ice. When the temperature drops, the solution will be watered out from the ice melting, and you will only make it worse. So what we do is to spread dry salt on the ice to get it really concentrated, and then spray solution on it to get the melting process starting. This is quick, and will melt ice when its really cold. Hope this helps. Ps, allways buy the cheapest salt you can get, cause it makes no difference (as long as its pure salt).
@@ThePr0biker great feedback
GREAT info! I didn't realize there were different types. I NEVER use ice melt because it destroys concrete. I had to use some last year because we had a winter rain and it froze overnight making a skating rink out of my sidewalk. This spring the grass along that sidewalk was all dead...
Hey Steve!!! Love that you watched this video in August. Yes, sooo many choices these days. The salt damage is ruthless! Spend a little extra money now and you don't have damage control later.
I poor concrete for a living and yes salts it worst enemy but if you seal your concrete every few years you can salt it. We run into home owners who tell us there gonna seal it and don’t and you can see were they drive on it the next spring Mn winters are tuff on slabs road salt. Sealed ones look great yet
Have you ever used 100% urea? I was considering trying it...thanks very good videos
I've heard the rumor but I've never gotten around to trying it! I need to for sure.
I’m trying to help an older woman neighbor who has ice all over her driveway, looks like 2-3 inches thick. Can I just walk over there and spread some of my blue heat, would it melt all the ice on one go or would I need to add more for extra applications?
That's a tough situation. you'll want a solution that heats up and its going to take multiple application to get it all broken down. if you would like to speed up the process i would suggest you create a brine solution and spray it between apps if possible.
my son uses pool salt it works well and it's cheaper
Yes! That'll work
It is calcium chloride, what he is using in the end of the video.
there is no charge when the sun is out
good call
Except sun isnt going to melt much snow for places like the new england area.
@@sayhoman touche'
after using an ACE Hardware product "ice melter" which is a mix of sodium chloride, mag. chloride, hexahydrate, and MG104 my steps look like they have just been hosed down, a 'wet' look to it and this is after 3 days since application of the ice melter product. is this dangerous or damaging? should i scrub it off? how do i get rid of it? thank you.
I would consider sweeping it off or spraying it off. the expanding and contracting isn't great for concrete no matter what
What happens if the calcium chloride gets wet in rain in its storage bucket?
It begins to lose efficacy when it gets wet
What's in prestone driveway heat? I love that stuff!
Little bit of everything:
Prestone Driveway Heat.
SARA Section 311/312 Hazard Classes.
Water (7732-18-5)
Calcium chloride (10043-52-4)
Sodium chloride (7647-14-5)
Strontium chloride (SrCl2) (10476-85-4)
Calcium hydroxide (1305-62-0)
Prestone Driveway Heat - Public Salt
publicsalt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/prestone-driveway-heat-sds-3.pdf
Damn people are ruthless😂 Why is everybody so offended that this guy decided to share his observations?
hahaha, everyone is a critic these days. doesn't bother me. helps me make the videos better.
calcium chloride eats the cement that binds the aggregate, weakening/damaging cements.
lots of info to debate for sure. My suggestion is to stay safe and follow the label.
If you seal your slab it will not be ruined
i would take that spreader to the doctor lol after reading the temp !
Right!? hahaha
Do you need sun light to make ice melt work
no. needs water
I tried using a torch and all it did was freeze solid with the ice melt frozen over it
@@knives0010 happens. It all depends on the product and the temps.
If ice melt gets hard and stuck together in a big lump, can you do something to it so it can be spread?
I usually just use plastic bag and put the chunks in it and hit it with a hammer.
Windshield wash fluid will work to make it granular again
Does brine ruin an asphalt driveway making holes in them?
I can for sure. it all depends on how porous your concrete is
Which one will destroy my driveway the fastest?
the straight sale products
The only problem that I find with the calcium chloride is that it is not pet safe. I made the mistake of using it at my house and my pet's Paws became irritated
yeah, it can get that way for sure. gotta keep those little guys safe
yup, calcium chloride is a better choice.
will not damage concrete
will not damage the lawn
at the end you can hear the oxygen popping from the hydrogen heating up. that is why it was crackling..... not to much hydrogen.
if it was more hydrogen , then you would hear it sound off like a string of firecrackers.
Gotta love the crackle!!! Thanks for the comment and observation
Why not go back and get the right thermometer? If you based half of your video on whether or not it can raise the temperature?
great feedback
Love a good R-word drop. Thanks for the laugh from TV Land. Bye mommy
Thanks Ben!!!
If the calcium gets tracked in to wood floors, the wood will absorb moisture all the time. It's bad for wood.
Exactly
That's why shoes should always come off at the door. Tracking around the house is bad year-round. ;)
Great info. Thanks for the video. I'd like to use that next year. Is it expensive?
Don Key thanks for the feedback. The peladow averages $32 per bag. Not too bad. The other products will be less expensive
Thanks. I want to get away from salts on my sidewalks because it harms my lawn.
Don Key you're welcome. Glad I could help
Are they pet and storm drain or waterway safe?
you'd have to read the label. from years ago's labels i some but not all of the products were. we mentioned a few of the pet issues in the video.
Thanks Dude
You're welcome!
sweet vid..cheers
Thanks Yak!
The CaCl2 is anhydrous calcium chloride ?
great question.
Stopped the video at 7:40 was interesting until then. No temp reading? /edit changed intil to until.
Total fail! I'm going redo that. I have a thermometer that will read the higher temps.
do you discuss pretreating with an anti-icer? If so we should chat.
No I haven't discussed it. I have thoroughly looked into it and haven't found the right product.
@@pestandlawnginja Not sure what you are looking for. A non corrosive product safe for deck screws, turf and pets is going to cost more. That's what we do -- it works to -15°F.
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IMHO don't it will turn concrete to sand, hot water maybe hammer claw it chip it up
Thanks for tour opinion and comment.
We use a tile splitter
I can hear snap crackle pop.
Rice Crispies!
They have temperature rating?
yes. The temperature at which the chemical will activate with water.
@@pestandlawnginja I never really paid attention to that. I am glad you made this available. Ignorance is bliss on my part. Thank you.
You're welcome! Merry Christmas!
Your information about the different products is not exactly correct. Purple Heat has flake magnesium chloride in it - it is not top coated as you say. It has twice the magnesium chloride as Turbo has. There is a difference between eutectic melting temperature and practical melting temperatures. Different companies report differently. Not to say any are accurate or inaccurate - one can request lab test verification if wanted.
great feedback thank you
Even using an outdoor thermometer is useless as the water temps won't change from adding the salts or chlorides.
What I'd really like to see is u pouring that stuff on blocks of ice for a side-by-side comparison, which is what I assumed u were going to do in this video when u had the various products dissolved in the vessels of cold water. When u poured only the one solution on the ice, but not any of the others, I felt a bit disappointed.
Great feedback, thank you.
Calcium chloride and magnesium chloride do raise water temps.
Preventing ice is a lot more predictable than removing it. Labels are always wrong because the industry isn't regulated. FYI, Ice melts don't work until they dissolve until a liquid (when it's cold they won't dissolve at all).
thanks for your feedback.
Get a decent thermometer
I did!!! It's much better. I need to re do the tests. I was disappointed to when I was filming. Rookie mistake.
Never use salt on concrete. The salt penetrates the concrete and rusts the rebars.😢
Thanks
Are these safe for pets. I have both cats and dogs.
The magnesium chloride is slightly safe for cats paws than the calcium chloride. IMO both are good products. The calcium chloride doesn't track as easily into the house.
*At least you're doing it wrong! LOL*
Thanks!
Oh your a snow ginja also.....Lol.
Very nice great info looking forward to more winter content from ya.👍
Ahahahahaha, Snow Ginja! I like it. I may need some content idea help from everyone for the winter.
Let’s not forget about pets, or children. Some of these can be very harmful.
Great comment. Very true.
you're
Sweet
nice video but you keep saying and writing F when what you really meant is C. the freezing point is 32°f or 0°c .
I can see why there is a misunderstanding by my speech. I appreciate you bringing that up. The peladow is rated to -25F per the specs. Most of the bags all the bags are rated to F and down to 0F. That's why I was saying that you can't trust the bag labels in the salt only categories because there good down to 15F and no more IMO. Thanks for the comment.
Grammar, you're doing it wrong.
Great info, though!
awe, thanks for caring
That would be “Aww, thanks for caring•.
You’re welcome.
relly?
OLO!
thats not even a wurd
You spelt "you're" wrong.
thank you
Manganese doesn't do anything to snow and ice , What he meant to say was Magnesium chloride, He should study before posting on TH-cam , manganese on the other hand helps inhibit dry rot and stiffens aluminum in the making of cans , Kids, please do your homework
It's true. wording got away from me on this one.
You're...no your. It's a conjunction which means you are. "Your" indicates ownership.
thanks
you said the r word!
Darn it!
i melt ice for fun ;-;
could be
bad for ecosystem though
it can be when overapplied
Put some gloves on
Why?
i will sub if its helpful
Thanks for the comment. Hopefully you found some value! Have a great night
@@pestandlawnginja it helped
awesome
I didn't watch your video because you started off by saying your doing it wrong. How do you know what people are doing fury face?
Good for you Jesse smooth face
*you're and *furry. [Tip: when you make a move to school people online, you may want to make sure you don't look like an idiot.]
@@melissasecrest8223 LOL
Am still waiting to see the hot nice white babes in your vids,player. Lol
😂😂😂 Good call! I'll get right on that
Not your It is you're.
I disagree. Should have Ben yore.
You both win
you know nothing about chemicals and how they work
Thanks
OMG...this is too complicated. Do one for dummies and get to the point.
Love the feedback
Dude wtf. Are you laughing or speaking? Do one at a time.
#ginjaperfect
Dishonest clickbait: "You're doing it wrong". There's nothing in the video where he explains how people are doing it wrong. To presume that he's the only one that knows how to do it correctly is rather prideful for sure!
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