I would say it means uncertainty! if you ask doctors will the two person ( with 20% and 80% risk factor) have a heart attack tomorrow or next month or next year? The answer will be I DON'T KNOW! to the two person , it will be same either have or have not to have a heart attack! Risk factor only let you feel more safe but actually do nothing! Finding out the reasons and root causes is the only way to predict. Statistic and probability is not a good method to predict and prevent diseases it only cause confusion because same situation will have different results!
Good point. They are very similar and could really mean the same thing and I wouldn't argue against it. On one of my takes that was mentioned but it got edited out for video length. The risk reduction being mentioned is absolute risk reduction. Thanks for asking.
Thanks. Would you agree that exercise and a ‘healthy diet’ can lower the risk of another CVD event as much as the use of any statin? They all reduce inflammation. And is there a positive and cumulative effect if you were to do all three? Or could it be that the statin side effects works against the health benefits one would otherwise get if one just stuck to diet and exercise? I agree calculating risk can be confusing.
I think the lifestyle can do better than any statin for people who are still relatively healthy and aren't too far along the plaque build-up road (which is related to inflammation). I honestly wonder if despite the adverse effects I had which got me off statins, if I didn't at least still get some added cumulative benefit via reduced inflammation while I was on them. In my mind it was more than offset by the adverse effects but my mind is always open to new thoughts. It almost seems to me that if the benefit is from anti-inflammatory effect, why isn't a medication being developed to address such inflammation without messing with our livers. Note: I just noticed the word "another" in your question. If you've had an event already, then I think it's "pull out all the stops" time until it can be confirmed via CIMT, CAC Score, etc. that things have stabilized, and then maybe decide where to go from there.
@@mystatinfreelife Thanks for your comments. My CAC score was good but I insisted on having a non-invasive Angiogram which showed some partial blockages and soft plaque. Therein lies a lesson for those doctors who just go by the CAC score. I have also had the CMIT test and that was ok. I agree with you that controlling inflammation but also insulin resistance, is where I should go and that is what I am doing, except for the glass of red wine at night and the occasional packet of chips. At 69 I enjoy my life and to my knowledge, I have no other chronic illness. I get scared at times and I am wondering if you could share your thoughts about how you manage that occasional anxiety? I’m sure you have or had some too. It would only be natural. Best Wishes.
@@alc6799 I should do a video on that also. I get anxiety usually when faced with a "traditionalist" who thinks I'm way off track (i.e. crazy to eat lower carb, crazy to think 220-240 total C level (5.1 - 5.6 in mmol/L) is okay, and crazy to listen to alternate opinions and form my own.) I do step into the echo chamber and voluntarily engage in confirmation bias by watching certain youtube channels, at least to convince myself that no one has all the answers and in fact there is no one answer that is right for everyone. I'm data driven though; and I want to see results. Since going on lower carb diet my hba1c has retreated away from prediabetic levels to the mid 5's. I wish it was better and I have to look at all metabolic numbers in context. But at least I now understand how important getting rid of insulin resistance is in the overall health picture.
@@mystatinfreelife We seem to be on the same page, and a video on the topic of anxiety would probably help not only ourselves but others. I remember asking my doc about how he helped his patients with some anxiety following a diagnosis of CVD and he said, he didn’t. I think the idea was a novel one for him. He has let me go my own way in my treatment and tests ordered which is liberating. I think he is flexible because the vast majority of his patients just want a pill to take and are resistant to change. It's a bit of a change too than examining people’s bums, he told me once. All the best.
And what do you think my GP is going to say when I see her and show her a 30% reversal in my Coronary Artery Calcium score? 660 to 458..... And statins are the furthest thing from my mind! Exercise - walking Food - grain and sugar free Supplements - Linus Pauling Heart Protocol - high dose vitamin C with Lysine and Proline amino acids. Go figure! its been that easy for me.
If I was a betting man, I'd guess her words would be "Think of how much better it would be if you did all that AND took statins." 🤣 Because of the wonder drug status of statins.
@mystatinfreelife Wonder drug my butt, first off a statin increases a calcium score as its job is to calcify the soft plague in the name of stabilization. And now days most cardiologists won't allow someone on a statin to have a CAC done as, in their view, the risk assessment is totally different. And that score really climbs further, narrowing the arteries it their thought no soft plague no danger. But when it does, boom heart attack, so no real guarantees that it won't happen. I'd rather take my chances riding of both soft and hard plaque. I'm 68 with no real issues other than a few episodes of A-fib, which I'm on a low dose of Metropolol 25mg, and it's been 6 months since my last episode. Lately, my heart wave form is looking better all the time. So my GP isn't likely to pull any wool over my eyes 🙃 promoting statin benefits. Not only does a statin calcify your arteries, it calcifies your brain "No Thank You"
@@SET12DSP Worse yet, someone seriously argued that "Statins can't cross the blood brain barrier, so can't impact cognitive functions." One of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. So yeah, they're "wonder drugs." They make you wonder what is happening to your brain.
I appreciate your videos. You are sort of a troublemaker (mean that in a nice way). You are the guy that raises his hand in class and says well what about this and what about that and where is your proof and of course the teacher has no answers. When I received my 436 CAC score (12 weeks ago) I was told I have a 50% chance of a cardiac event in 2 years. Instead of taking statins I decided to go on a low carb diet and increased my exercise. I just don't trust putting these chemicals in my body and I don't want to have to take something for the rest of my life.
Thanks for watching! I was once asked to run for a local office by a person who told me I was a bit of an iconoclast, which was another way of calling me a troublemaker in a nice way. 🤣
Well, imagine my reaction after being a vegetarian on Dr. Cadwell Essyltyn diet for a few years, then my first score of 299. I wasn't happy. My wife was a zero. Now, 5 years later, 660, and that was downright concerning😢 luckily I had a smart friend tell me about Linus Pauling a 2-time Nobel Prize winner and how he had a treatment of stopping heart disease. So I read on and picked up a few books. One of which is Dr. Thomas Levy's book " Stop America's #1 Killer " Proof that the Origin of All Coronary Heart Disease is Clearly Reversible Arterial Scurvy. And he's right as my CAC is reversing. But it's reversing for a reason. First of the reason for the damage, according to Levy, is pure mechanical stress of the arteries next to your beating heart! Don't believe it? More than 40% of marathon runners have heart issues, as well as many endurance athletes. The mechanical stress depletes the artery of Vitamin C in fact their is a name for it! Called focal vitamin C deficiency, meaning one specific point. When that happens, the body sends Lp-a in to start the plaque process it's actually a substitute for vitamin C when the body is short on it. The RDA is clearly not enough as every cell in the body needs it, including vast amounts, for the eyes. You should see some of the photos I have seen on the reversing of poor circulation within the eyes! Yeah, they will test your blood levels of C, but the cells of the body need far, far more C than what is in the blood. So when you let the body use Lp-a, you get a crap patch job. The doctors like to call that "healing" or calcifation. The point is that the artery wants vitamin C to repair it correctly without using plaque and calcium build-up to shore up the artery walls. Now I'm on 25 grams of Vitamin C per day in divided doses. This is the equivalent of 500 oranges a day! Very powerful stuff especially to reverse a CAC score. Vitamin C I take is plain ascorbic acid and it's acidic enough to dissolve calcium as well as repair the damaged Lysine and Proline exposed strands as well as making collegan for the artery wall. Now, what do you think is more difficult to get rid of the soft plague or the hard calcium? Well the way I look at it the hard calcium, but if that's gone then the soft stuff has to be gone. Hence why I have no anxiety over not taking a statin!!! I'm sorry but I trust a 2-time Nobel Prize winner awarded 48 PhD's over his lifetime than an MD Praticing standard medicine. Dr Thomas Levy Cardiologist proved that this works and as you can see my 30% reversal says it all.
I need to add here that Vitamin C isn't all of the answer it also must have the amino acids Lysine and Proline these amino acids are attracted to Lp-a and once bonded they neutralize Lp-a allowing vitamin C to be more effective in its repair. Now Doctor Levy says Magnesium desolves calcium as when magnesium goes up in the body, calcium goes down. I am on twice the RDA doing 800mg per day of magnesium bicarbonate water that I make from carbonated water and magnesium oxide. In the end, it's not just exercise but the nutrients in the proper dosing. Small amounts of Vitamin C basically do nothing. And if you look at the literature, all the studies were done with very small amounts, as Dr Levy points out. As he says, they would call 500mg a mega dose!!! They never considered even 10 grams. BTW there is no toxicity for vitamin C. But you can die from too much water!
Yeah, you're right, your doctor isn't going to go for any of this. Keep up the fight.
Why thanks Just Rusty! Love your hiking videos too! Yes, the fight has just started.
Very informative. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I would say it means uncertainty! if you ask doctors will the two person ( with 20% and 80% risk factor) have a heart attack tomorrow or next month or next year? The answer will be I DON'T KNOW! to the two person , it will be same either have or have not to have a heart attack! Risk factor only let you feel more safe but actually do nothing! Finding out the reasons and root causes is the only way to predict. Statistic and probability is not a good method to predict and prevent diseases it only cause confusion because same situation will have different results!
Not sure the difference between #1 and #4, and on that slide is it absolute or relative risk reduction?
Good point. They are very similar and could really mean the same thing and I wouldn't argue against it. On one of my takes that was mentioned but it got edited out for video length. The risk reduction being mentioned is absolute risk reduction. Thanks for asking.
Thanks. Would you agree that exercise and a ‘healthy diet’ can lower the risk of another CVD event as much as the use of any statin? They all reduce inflammation. And is there a positive and cumulative effect if you were to do all three? Or could it be that the statin side effects works against the health benefits one would otherwise get if one just stuck to diet and exercise? I agree calculating risk can be confusing.
I think the lifestyle can do better than any statin for people who are still relatively healthy and aren't too far along the plaque build-up road (which is related to inflammation). I honestly wonder if despite the adverse effects I had which got me off statins, if I didn't at least still get some added cumulative benefit via reduced inflammation while I was on them. In my mind it was more than offset by the adverse effects but my mind is always open to new thoughts. It almost seems to me that if the benefit is from anti-inflammatory effect, why isn't a medication being developed to address such inflammation without messing with our livers.
Note: I just noticed the word "another" in your question. If you've had an event already, then I think it's "pull out all the stops" time until it can be confirmed via CIMT, CAC Score, etc. that things have stabilized, and then maybe decide where to go from there.
@@mystatinfreelife Thanks for your comments. My CAC score was good but I insisted on having a non-invasive Angiogram which showed some partial blockages and soft plaque. Therein lies a lesson for those doctors who just go by the CAC score.
I have also had the CMIT test and that was ok. I agree with you that controlling inflammation but also insulin resistance, is where I should go and that is what I am doing, except for the glass of red wine at night and the occasional packet of chips. At 69 I enjoy my life and to my knowledge, I have no other chronic illness. I get scared at times and I am wondering if you could share your thoughts about how you manage that occasional anxiety? I’m sure you have or had some too. It would only be natural. Best Wishes.
@@alc6799 I should do a video on that also. I get anxiety usually when faced with a "traditionalist" who thinks I'm way off track (i.e. crazy to eat lower carb, crazy to think 220-240 total C level (5.1 - 5.6 in mmol/L) is okay, and crazy to listen to alternate opinions and form my own.) I do step into the echo chamber and voluntarily engage in confirmation bias by watching certain youtube channels, at least to convince myself that no one has all the answers and in fact there is no one answer that is right for everyone. I'm data driven though; and I want to see results. Since going on lower carb diet my hba1c has retreated away from prediabetic levels to the mid 5's. I wish it was better and I have to look at all metabolic numbers in context. But at least I now understand how important getting rid of insulin resistance is in the overall health picture.
@@mystatinfreelife We seem to be on the same page, and a video on the topic of anxiety would probably help not only ourselves but others. I remember asking my doc about how he helped his patients with some anxiety following a diagnosis of CVD and he said, he didn’t. I think the idea was a novel one for him. He has let me go my own way in my treatment and tests ordered which is liberating. I think he is flexible because the vast majority of his patients just want a pill to take and are resistant to change. It's a bit of a change too than examining people’s bums, he told me once. All the best.
@@mystatinfreelife YES. Why aren't we being given a drug to reduce inflammation rather than cholesterol.
And what do you think my GP is going to say when I see her and show her a 30% reversal in my Coronary Artery Calcium score? 660 to 458.....
And statins are the furthest thing from my mind!
Exercise - walking
Food - grain and sugar free
Supplements - Linus Pauling Heart Protocol - high dose vitamin C with Lysine and Proline amino acids.
Go figure! its been that easy for me.
If I was a betting man, I'd guess her words would be "Think of how much better it would be if you did all that AND took statins." 🤣 Because of the wonder drug status of statins.
@mystatinfreelife Wonder drug my butt, first off a statin increases a calcium score as its job is to calcify the soft plague in the name of stabilization. And now days most cardiologists won't allow someone on a statin to have a CAC done as, in their view, the risk assessment is totally different. And that score really climbs further, narrowing the arteries it their thought no soft plague no danger. But when it does, boom heart attack, so no real guarantees that it won't happen.
I'd rather take my chances riding of both soft and hard plaque. I'm 68 with no real issues other than a few episodes of A-fib, which I'm on a low dose of Metropolol 25mg, and it's been 6 months since my last episode. Lately, my heart wave form is looking better all the time.
So my GP isn't likely to pull any wool over my eyes 🙃 promoting statin benefits.
Not only does a statin calcify your arteries, it calcifies your brain "No Thank You"
@@SET12DSP Worse yet, someone seriously argued that "Statins can't cross the blood brain barrier, so can't impact cognitive functions." One of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. So yeah, they're "wonder drugs." They make you wonder what is happening to your brain.
I appreciate your videos. You are sort of a troublemaker (mean that in a nice way). You are the guy that raises his hand in class and says well what about this and what about that and where is your proof and of course the teacher has no answers. When I received my 436 CAC score (12 weeks ago) I was told I have a 50% chance of a cardiac event in 2 years. Instead of taking statins I decided to go on a low carb diet and increased my exercise. I just don't trust putting these chemicals in my body and I don't want to have to take something for the rest of my life.
Thanks for watching! I was once asked to run for a local office by a person who told me I was a bit of an iconoclast, which was another way of calling me a troublemaker in a nice way. 🤣
Well, imagine my reaction after being a vegetarian on Dr. Cadwell Essyltyn diet for a few years, then my first score of 299. I wasn't happy. My wife was a zero. Now, 5 years later, 660, and that was downright concerning😢 luckily I had a smart friend tell me about Linus Pauling a 2-time Nobel Prize winner and how he had a treatment of stopping heart disease. So I read on and picked up a few books. One of which is Dr. Thomas Levy's book " Stop America's #1 Killer " Proof that the Origin of All Coronary Heart Disease is Clearly Reversible Arterial Scurvy.
And he's right as my CAC is reversing.
But it's reversing for a reason.
First of the reason for the damage, according to Levy, is pure mechanical stress of the arteries next to your beating heart!
Don't believe it?
More than 40% of marathon runners have heart issues, as well as many endurance athletes.
The mechanical stress depletes the artery of Vitamin C in fact their is a name for it! Called focal vitamin C deficiency, meaning one specific point. When that happens, the body sends Lp-a in to start the plaque process it's actually a substitute for vitamin C when the body is short on it.
The RDA is clearly not enough as every cell in the body needs it, including vast amounts, for the eyes. You should see some of the photos I have seen on the reversing of poor circulation within the eyes!
Yeah, they will test your blood levels of C, but the cells of the body need far, far more C than what is in the blood.
So when you let the body use Lp-a, you get a crap patch job. The doctors like to call that "healing" or calcifation.
The point is that the artery wants vitamin C to repair it correctly without using plaque and calcium build-up to shore up the artery walls.
Now I'm on 25 grams of Vitamin C per day in divided doses. This is the equivalent of 500 oranges a day! Very powerful stuff especially to reverse a CAC score. Vitamin C I take is plain ascorbic acid and it's acidic enough to dissolve calcium as well as repair the damaged Lysine and Proline exposed strands as well as making collegan for the artery wall.
Now, what do you think is more difficult to get rid of the soft plague or the hard calcium?
Well the way I look at it the hard calcium, but if that's gone then the soft stuff has to be gone.
Hence why I have no anxiety over not taking a statin!!!
I'm sorry but I trust a 2-time Nobel Prize winner awarded 48 PhD's over his lifetime than an MD Praticing standard medicine. Dr Thomas Levy Cardiologist proved that this works and as you can see my 30% reversal says it all.
I need to add here that Vitamin C isn't all of the answer it also must have the amino acids Lysine and Proline these amino acids are attracted to Lp-a and once bonded they neutralize Lp-a allowing vitamin C to be more effective in its repair.
Now Doctor Levy says Magnesium desolves calcium as when magnesium goes up in the body, calcium goes down. I am on twice the RDA doing 800mg per day of magnesium bicarbonate water that I make from carbonated water and magnesium oxide.
In the end, it's not just exercise but the nutrients in the proper dosing. Small amounts of Vitamin C basically do nothing. And if you look at the literature, all the studies were done with very small amounts, as Dr Levy points out. As he says, they would call 500mg a mega dose!!!
They never considered even 10 grams.
BTW there is no toxicity for vitamin C.
But you can die from too much water!