Was talking to a die hard Harley owner last night he asked what I rode, told him and showed the pics, he said...”that’s my next bike, Harley is going south of predictable and reliable and their service sucks...Indian just seems to have the MORE of the classic look” tis a piece of art dazzle.
I've ridden the Indian Chief Classic, which is essentially the same bike as the Chief Vintage & Springfield. (not the 2022). I was really surprised as to how well balanced this bike is for a beast of 835 lbs. A road touring bike is just what it is, one that side winds won't blow you off the pike like a putt putt bike will do. I have my eyes on a 2021 Vintage & I've looked into the '21 Springfield as well. There are also about 3 or 4 late model Chiefs here and about that are a tempting deal, tax savings as well as that sticker shock issue. Don't have to twist my arm to convince me about what a great bike it is, not just looks which is nice, but mechanically too. You mentioned the PAINT issue, which I was aware of by looking at my friend's white 2017 Classic & other's comments on the same matter. If kept under a roof, garage, etc, likely one can avoid a repaint for about 6 or 7 years. By then you'll want to spiff it up a bit anyway, right! Thanks for adding your forthright comments.
Hey Dazzle, I have 4 windscreens for my current HD Electra Glide and one of them is a dark version of the curled top screen you were describing. Mine is medium height and I found that you still get buffering just in a different way but still uncomfortable. I ended up using the medium HD size screen for everyday riding and the taller screen for long tours and cold weather. Personally for the money I found the curled screen had no real advantage. Ride safe.
Thank you. These videos are pre-covid. A lot has changed since then as my job has changed and this channel is following that job. I'll be making more Indian Motorcycle content next year on my other channel th-cam.com/users/dazzlerebel @dazzlerebel There will be more videos about motorcycles on this channel. They will just be about classic bikes. These will probably not come until next year, also. I need time to record the content once events start happening post-lockdown. 👍🏼
Cheers sir from across the pond! Watching from the Appalachian Mountain Foothills of Kentucky 👍. Nice machine brother ! I've always wanted a heritage softial but the Indian keeps calling for me lol. I guess choice is a good thing . If I had my way I would have BOTH
Very nice Bike mate I own a 2016 indian red and I love It too. I personally clean my white wall tires with magic eraser (melamine sponge) effortlessly. I also do all regular maintenance myself. Love your videos man, specifically the intro 😎
Where did you find the bright weather man? Here at the top of the Pennines we're mired in permanent low cloud and you cant see your hand infront of your face, followed by freezing, icy rain............ (Bike looks fantastic bye the way, take your point about the screen, bit Harley esq??????)
This was a couple of weeks ago. That'll be pretty much it until the Spring though. I do have some footage from the summer I still haven't edited which will be out soon.
I'm not a fan of the fringes myself so I did a deal with the shop. Got the bike for a bargain price by swapping seat and luggage with a guy who had a red chief but wanted the tan and tassels. 👍
Love this video. Mostly because I'm about to buy the exact same bike here in Massachusetts. I know what you mean about the windshield. My current Honda Shadow has a very similar shield and its fine till you hit highway speeds. I have to alter my riding position to escape the overhead buffeting. Hard to do at 6'2", especially on long rides. I like your idea about the after market shield. Let me know what you think once you have some time with it. Thanks again, you've been very helpful in making my decision to buy this awesome bike! Ride safe and stay healthy, Sincerely , Joe Cashen Worcester, Massachusetts
Nice video. I’m inspired by your movies and, whilst I have not long since acquired my SJCam SJ7 Star, I think I’m gonna purchase a GoPro Hero 7 Black as my main camera and put the SJCam on the bars of my Scout. Do ya think that’d be a good idea?
I absolutely love the bike and was considering purchasing a 2020, but I have been reading reviews complaining of extreme heat making the riders very uncomfortable. How is your experience with that?
It's an air cooled V-Twin so it's going to run hot when it's not moving. Yes the rear cylinder gets hot when you're sat in traffic. In winter that's great but on a 90° day, not so much. It's only really an issue when stopped but from 2019 onwards you have rear cylinder deactivation. It basically stops the rear cylinder when idling in neutral. Therefore a 2020 bike wouldn't get as hot as my 2014 bike does idling at a stop light. Besides that there are some aftermarket heat shields you can buy that deflect the heat. Personally I don't find it any more of an issue than the Harley's I've ridden. In fact I found the Kawasaki ZZR1100 had more of a heat issue than my Indian.
Hi, thanks for the comment. I'm not sure on the title but when I made this video I was getting most of my music from TH-cams own music library. The only stuff I didn't get from it was stuff I wrote myself and I definitely didn't write that. Just the title sting. So, in a rather long winded way I'm saying that it came from TH-cam but I couldn't say what it's called or who the artist is but it will be in the creator library somewhere if you want to look for it 👍🏼
Yes, it will make noise when there is moisture present, like every other belt, but if you get it adjusted regularly, it’s really not bad. Still well worth having. 🇺🇸
I got a squeak for the first time on a cold morning run just before Christmas. It was quite a moist day in the air but it wasn't bad, more of a slight chirp. It went once it warmed up a bit.
The Springfield also has a shorter wheelbase (narrower rake), the same as the Chieftain and Roadmaster and tyre pressure sensors. You essentially have 4 Indian platforms at the moment; the FTR, the Scout, the Thunder Stroke cruisers (Chief, Vintage, Dark Horse) ans Thunder Stroke touring (Springfield, Chieftain, Roadmaster). 🖒
The Vintage was the best looking of all Indians with all it's chrome and leather. I used to love looking at them on display when I was getting my 2017 Springfield serviced, and I bought OEM fringed leather bags and seat for my Springfield to imitate a Vintage (when I don't require my locking hard bags). Now-a-days, I find the Indians on display with the black painted chrome and the flat non-gloss paint quite ugly and I hate going into the Indian showrooms.
I love the gloss black and chrome, it just pops
Nice innit 👍
Was talking to a die hard Harley owner last night he asked what I rode, told him and showed the pics, he said...”that’s my next bike, Harley is going south of predictable and reliable and their service sucks...Indian just seems to have the MORE of the classic look” tis a piece of art dazzle.
Cheers Nathan 👍
Try Muc Off bike cleaner on white walls and spokes, use it on my vintage works wonders.
Thanks for the tip 👍
I've ridden the Indian Chief Classic, which is essentially the same bike as the Chief Vintage & Springfield. (not the 2022). I was really surprised as to how well balanced this bike is for a beast of 835 lbs. A road touring bike is just what it is, one that side winds won't blow you off the pike like a putt putt bike will do. I have my eyes on a 2021 Vintage & I've looked into the '21 Springfield as well. There are also about 3 or 4 late model Chiefs here and about that are a tempting deal, tax savings as well as that sticker shock issue. Don't have to twist my arm to convince me about what a great bike it is, not just looks which is nice, but mechanically too. You mentioned the PAINT issue, which I was aware of by looking at my friend's white 2017 Classic & other's comments on the same matter. If kept under a roof, garage, etc, likely one can avoid a repaint for about 6 or 7 years. By then you'll want to spiff it up a bit anyway, right! Thanks for adding your forthright comments.
I've got some ideas for mine next year. We'll see if the funds are available after yet another UK lockdown!
2:30 "It needs to be in an art gallery really". is the whole reason I bought the bike!
Enjoyed your description of the 111! Throbbing guts was it?! Lol! Love it
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Hey Dazzle, I have 4 windscreens for my current HD Electra Glide and one of them is a dark version of the curled top screen you were describing. Mine is medium height and I found that you still get buffering just in a different way but still uncomfortable. I ended up using the medium HD size screen for everyday riding and the taller screen for long tours and cold weather. Personally for the money I found the curled screen had no real advantage. Ride safe.
That's interesting to know. Thanks man 👍
I really like the production value you should have far more likes.
Thank you. These videos are pre-covid. A lot has changed since then as my job has changed and this channel is following that job. I'll be making more Indian Motorcycle content next year on my other channel th-cam.com/users/dazzlerebel @dazzlerebel
There will be more videos about motorcycles on this channel. They will just be about classic bikes. These will probably not come until next year, also. I need time to record the content once events start happening post-lockdown. 👍🏼
Black magic white bleach will take care of the staining on those white walls. Give it a shot, great video and beautiful bike.
Good tip! Cheers 👍
Brillo pads as well.
That's what I used. Was good at getting the dirt off but not the belt stain on the rear tyre.
Well shot and a very beautiful bike. Good stuff Daz!
I still haven’t gotten to ride the chief yet. Hopefully next demo truck will have one.
I really want a 2019 Chieftain Darkhorse and an FTR1200S. I need to come into some serious wedge!
Dazzle Яebel Rides right. I’m playing the lottery so I can have all the bikes.
Me too. I want a garage like Jay Leno!
Beautiful pictures and ride, Dazzle! 👌
Cheers mate 👍
Cheers sir from across the pond! Watching from the Appalachian Mountain Foothills of Kentucky 👍. Nice machine brother ! I've always wanted a heritage softial but the Indian keeps calling for me lol. I guess choice is a good thing . If I had my way I would have BOTH
I'd love to visit the Appalachans. Looks a stunning part of the world to live ✌
Very nice Bike mate I own a 2016 indian red and I love It too. I personally clean my white wall tires with magic eraser (melamine sponge) effortlessly. I also do all regular maintenance myself. Love your videos man, specifically the intro 😎
Cool! I'll look out for that magic eraser. Thanks for the kind words 👍
Stunning bike from front fender to fish pipes. I really am a fan of the vintage Indian style. Whats the weight of this bike?
370kgs with panniers, pillion seat and screen. Take all that off and it's down to about 340kg. 👍
@@RebelRides ........... That's approx. 835 lbs. weight USA.
@@frankcates3909 815.7104
Beautiful ride brother 😎
Thanks! ✌
Where did you find the bright weather man?
Here at the top of the Pennines we're mired in permanent low cloud and you cant see your hand infront of your face, followed by freezing, icy rain............
(Bike looks fantastic bye the way, take your point about the screen, bit Harley esq??????)
This was a couple of weeks ago. That'll be pretty much it until the Spring though. I do have some footage from the summer I still haven't edited which will be out soon.
Love the video.. I was curious... you don’t have fringes on your bags... why so? Do they come off?
I'm not a fan of the fringes myself so I did a deal with the shop. Got the bike for a bargain price by swapping seat and luggage with a guy who had a red chief but wanted the tan and tassels. 👍
Dazzle Яebel Rides thanks!
Beautiful bike! I had some white walls on my bike but man they just cant stay clean so I just went to black.
I can keep the front clean enough with proper tyre cleaner and scotchbrite pads but there's no keeping the rear white.
Love this video. Mostly because I'm about to buy the exact same bike here in Massachusetts. I know what you mean about the windshield. My current Honda Shadow has a very similar shield and its fine till you hit highway speeds. I have to alter my riding position to escape the overhead buffeting. Hard to do at 6'2", especially on long rides. I like your idea about the after market shield. Let me know what you think once you have some time with it. Thanks again, you've been very helpful in making my decision to buy this awesome bike!
Ride safe and stay healthy,
Sincerely ,
Joe Cashen
Worcester, Massachusetts
The cut down screen has been working great but I suspect the aftermarket Freedom screen will be even better 👍
@@RebelRides thank you for the update, I appreciate it :)
I put the fork mounted wind deflectors on my Springfied and all buffeting stopped.
Beautiful bike! Might be time for me to upgrade to a larger bike.
If you can try and keep the Bobber too. Then you'll have two fantastic bikes!
Nice video. I’m inspired by your movies and, whilst I have not long since acquired my SJCam SJ7 Star, I think I’m gonna purchase a GoPro Hero 7 Black as my main camera and put the SJCam on the bars of my Scout. Do ya think that’d be a good idea?
Great idea. If I had the cash I'd be bagging a new GoPro 7 too.
Dazzle Яebel Rides Cool and Thanks. I can feel a trip to the store coming on. :)
Indian do a great job with the aesthetics.
AWESOME
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I absolutely love the bike and was considering purchasing a 2020, but I have been reading reviews complaining of extreme heat making the riders very uncomfortable. How is your experience with that?
It's an air cooled V-Twin so it's going to run hot when it's not moving. Yes the rear cylinder gets hot when you're sat in traffic. In winter that's great but on a 90° day, not so much. It's only really an issue when stopped but from 2019 onwards you have rear cylinder deactivation. It basically stops the rear cylinder when idling in neutral. Therefore a 2020 bike wouldn't get as hot as my 2014 bike does idling at a stop light.
Besides that there are some aftermarket heat shields you can buy that deflect the heat. Personally I don't find it any more of an issue than the Harley's I've ridden. In fact I found the Kawasaki ZZR1100 had more of a heat issue than my Indian.
Dazzle Яebel Rides great info! Thanks for the reply.
What's the music after the title?
Hi, thanks for the comment. I'm not sure on the title but when I made this video I was getting most of my music from TH-cams own music library. The only stuff I didn't get from it was stuff I wrote myself and I definitely didn't write that. Just the title sting. So, in a rather long winded way I'm saying that it came from TH-cam but I couldn't say what it's called or who the artist is but it will be in the creator library somewhere if you want to look for it 👍🏼
@@RebelRides well thanks for the response, class act and great content mate
Have you had any issues with the rear drive belt squeaking?
Not myself but have heard that others say they have it.
Yes, it will make noise when there is moisture present, like every other belt, but if you get it adjusted regularly, it’s really not bad. Still well worth having. 🇺🇸
I got a squeak for the first time on a cold morning run just before Christmas. It was quite a moist day in the air but it wasn't bad, more of a slight chirp. It went once it warmed up a bit.
I got a squeak a rubbed just a little bar soap on the belt and it went away.
How does the Vintage differ from the Springfield? Is it just the hard bags?
The Springfield also has a shorter wheelbase (narrower rake), the same as the Chieftain and Roadmaster and tyre pressure sensors. You essentially have 4 Indian platforms at the moment; the FTR, the Scout, the Thunder Stroke cruisers (Chief, Vintage, Dark Horse) ans Thunder Stroke touring (Springfield, Chieftain, Roadmaster). 🖒
@@RebelRides Thanks Daz.
No problem 🖒
Looking for some one rebuild my 48 Roadmaster im denver help please
Beautiful bike mate. But surely, your motors around the wrong way. Isn't it ??
Haha. Mine rocks forward when revved, not to the right! Lol. If I had the money and space I'd have a Guzzi Eldorado too. Beautiful looking bike. 👍
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People who ride these type of touring bikes wearing that helmet look like a pillock, need a vintage look helmet with sun glasses
I need one with 20 lbs of black fringe!
Can you bleach the rear whitewalls?
😂😂😂
I haven't tried bleach. Wouldn't that start eating into the rubber?
The Vintage was the best looking of all Indians with all it's chrome and leather. I used to love looking at them on display when I was getting my 2017 Springfield serviced, and I bought OEM fringed leather bags and seat for my Springfield to imitate a Vintage (when I don't require my locking hard bags). Now-a-days, I find the Indians on display with the black painted chrome and the flat non-gloss paint quite ugly and I hate going into the Indian showrooms.
I do like the Indian.
Mmmmmmm Indian.
I find them very tasty 👌
You consider a 2014 indian motorcycle to be vintage? lol You just lost all credibility
I didn't but you just did because that's the model name of the bike you daft moron! 😂😂😂😂😂😂