Consumers are not stupid. Until one day China builds a big airplane selling for $100 a piece (don’t be fooled to believe that won’t ever happen😅) claiming the cost of building a airplane is $50. then, Boeing and airbus will go bankrupt in three days. There is something more than you can understand and imagine. This is how CCP takes over the world. To some insider, this is all common sense.
@@prolific1518 You don't have to check the permissions with the likes of Google, Apple, Amazon, Tesla..etc. They will harvest your data regardless and pass it to the state. If you live in the West, you should not worry about the Chinese government. Let the Chinese people worry about that... What you should worry about is Washington.
@@TheRichCapitalist That is because Deepseek used some of ChatGPT's data by making millions of queries just like we do but the actual algorithm and baseline code is more efficient than ChatGPT You can view their code since it is open source.
Kyle Bass shorted the Chinese currencies twice (RMB in 2015-2017 and then Hong Kong dollar in 2020-2021;) and he ended up losing hundreds of million of dollars twice, (i.e., in 2017, he lost almost 20% of his company's value due to shorting RMB; in 2021, he lost 95% of the money he had bet against the HK dollar.) That is why he hates China so much: he bet on China to fail, and China refused to fail, which made him lose A LOT of money. Here, at the start of the interview, he sounded upset, hysterical, irrational and even scared. You could sense the tone in his voice. My guess: DeepSeek must have caused him to lose a lot of money betting on AI and big tech in the US. Even though this time, he was not specifically betting against China, but somehow China has just ruined his bet and made him lose money AGAIN. That's why he is so upset at China. Everything he's saying here is self-serving: i.e., ban DeepSeek and open source... because he's losing a lot of money to DeepSeek and open source!
Happy to see that Americans are discovering that the world exists-and not only does it exist, but it also has people infinitely more intelligent than them.
Kyle Bass is the same loser who tried to short the Chinese Yuan on the hopes of the 2019 Hong Kong riots collapsing the Chinese government. We all know how that turned out. I'm surprised he's still brought on to lend his "expertise". He's a step up from Gordon Chang, but not by much.
Such a bitter guy that China has come up with a better AP on something that the United States values so much and he is going off about all the tired abs wasted anti Chinese tropes...
I have to thank this guy for sharing his perspective. When I was in school learning about WWII, I never understood how people can be so evil with their bigotry and lies. The existence of this guy helps me understand now.
This video shows how sick America is. If you believe in free world, just compete like an adult. With this kind of attitude, soon the whole world will go anti America.
It is really simple to understand why Chinese AI is a lot cheaper, and more effective, at least, in the Chinese language domain. Chinese researchers and engineers focus on model and logic backed up by vast amounts of data collected by many big companies like Tencent. Alibaba, Xiaomi, etc, while the U.S. counterparts rely heavily on chips capacity and capabilities for computing. There is far more human intelligence involved in Deep Seek than ChatGTP. Human intelligence is lot cheaper and efficient and effective than hardware. The Western media pretend not to understand this simple fact because they don’t know how to compete with China and they don’t know how to deal with the consequences in the human intelligence domain. Cooperation with China is the only viable option for the U.S., so that the U.S. knows a lot more about what China is doing, and vice versa, for a better world.
This video shows how sick America is. If you believe in free world, just compete like an adult. With this kind of attitude, soon the whole world will go anti America.
Aka China was more easily able to train their AI on human interactions and data because they've been busy building a database of those human interactions through apps like TikTok. Deepseek will be the nail in the coffin of TikTok.
China is wise enough to keep America at arm's length. All know that outside of India, no country is less trustworthy than the USA. The hand that feeds America will lose finger after finger after...
China, China, China. Have we had enough China phobia? Why can't we just admit we lost again? And just learn something from Chinese and work harder than Chinese companies. Maybe, we can compete with them again in the future.
@prolific1518 Sorry, I am an American who really cares about this country , not a Chinese robot. I guess anyone who speak something you don't like will be a Chinese rob in your mind, right?
A lot of people have been working on this in their own way, so calling it "copy" is not exactly correct. If how they accomplished it is in fact true, how is that undermining? Were you expecting them to reach out and then discuss it first so that you don't all feel like a fool and then try to take credit?
never understand why CNBC like to invite the guy who shorted China and lost his shirts and shorts in the process, as China "expert". Now CNBC invited him to talk about AI, LMAO.
Honestly, this whole idea that we should only stick to US products is a bit bonkers, eh? Like, have we not seen what the Chinese are doing lately? TikTok’s got everyone hooked, EVs are taking over the roads, and now they’re flexing with AI too. Meanwhile, the US is just throwing around tariffs and bans like it’s candy, trying to distract us from the fact that they’re lagging behind. I mean, come on! Instead of whining about competition, maybe we should be taking notes on how to innovate instead of spreading lies. It’s like watching a kid throw a tantrum because they can’t keep up in a race. 🤦♂️ Let’s give credit where it’s due - the Chinese are bringing some serious game to the table. Instead of fearing competition, let’s step up our own game!
Who says we are "just throwing around tariffs and bans like it’s candy"? We want Panama for breakfast, Greenland for lunch and Canada for dinner, baby.
6:49 that friend is probably not joking about moving to China. She's probably planned everything already with her new Chinese best friends on Red Note and figured out all the formalities with DeepSeek 🤣
That is not the point Mr Bass, if govt provide lower cost then it benefit everyone. Then again atleast the chinese govt is focus on tech rather then war. But each LLM model need to learn overtime so it has to reside somewhere.
In contrary to the far right autocratic American government models I can run Deepseek autonomous. The advisary here is the US. China did everything right
I hear the Chinese are extremely racist against black people, lol... many Asian countries are. You should Google it and be thankful of being in the US. White people are least racist people in the world... that says something about the world we live in... white people care more than any other race... sure care more than my race does. 99% countries don't care for diversity.
As someone who has lived in Asia most of my life it's funny how Americans can complain about an Asian company with an American asian news reporter and think that reporter is supporting America LOL nothing can be further from the truth .
Hayman Capital Kayle Bass is a liar all the time. He is jealous that he might not make enough money out of AI. Deepseek is an open source. You go audit yourself. Kayle does not have a clue.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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The thing is as people, we are usually skeptical about things we haven't yet tried, the truth is that you'll never know if it's profitable or not unless you decide to take the risk and give it a try, most successful people of this age are successful because they took the risk, "investing" and things has changed for the better ever since I realized it....
Meta trained its 405B Llama 3.1 model on 16000 H100 GPUs. Deepseek's R1 is a 685 Billion parameter mixture of experts model with 37B active parameters trained on 2048 H800 GPUs. Mixture of Expert models are a lot cheaper to train than Dense models like Meta's Llama 3 405B, so the claim of deepseek owning 50000 H100s makes no sense. It makes perfect sense that R1 could be trained on a $6M budget on 2048 GPUs.
It took Newton 30 years to discover the law of universal gravitation, and it took me only three months to figure it out. I completed Newton's 30 years of research in three months. Who is the best?
Undermining?? You think consumers are stupid to stay loyal to monopolistic American technology?
Consumers are not stupid. Until one day China builds a big airplane selling for $100 a piece (don’t be fooled to believe that won’t ever happen😅) claiming the cost of building a airplane is $50. then, Boeing and airbus will go bankrupt in three days. There is something more than you can understand and imagine. This is how CCP takes over the world. To some insider, this is all common sense.
he is one of them profiting from monopoly. he is not one of us, the 99%...
Anyone who uses china apps is a moron.
look at this fools trying to establish hegemony of america in AI , even has no guts to appreciate others innovation and brilliance
Stealing isnt innovation. Get that through your third world head.
😂😂😂
WTF he is talking ? This Guy is so Anti China😂
no matter how they spin it. you can never beat "FREE". you can almost hear the sound of other people's money going down the drain.
Thus guy is a garbage
We have people like this, we won’t go far in the fierce competition.
The propaganda is crazy. Yesterday CNBC anchor said the app had access to all your emails, now saying the app is transferring all your data 😂
As long as it's nog Zuckerberg I'm happy,, I have deleted ALL Meta, and ofcourse I deleted Twitter as soon as Musk took over
It's getting embarrassing.😂
Check the permissions. If it's on your phone, it has full access to the data on the phone. Same with TikTok.
@@prolific1518 You don't have to check the permissions with the likes of Google, Apple, Amazon, Tesla..etc.
They will harvest your data regardless and pass it to the state.
If you live in the West, you should not worry about the Chinese government. Let the Chinese people worry about that... What you should worry about is Washington.
You’re an idiot if you don’t realize this is the case
the guy is talking nonsense
How are they copying when they are producing better products?
Only sore losers can come up with that.
Exactly! Bad sportsmanship.
DeepSeek even claims to be ChatGPT in some of its responses, which I find suspicious. The "base" had to have been copied.
@@TheRichCapitalistanother idiot dont know how llM works.
@@TheRichCapitalist That is because Deepseek used some of ChatGPT's data by making millions of queries just like we do but the actual algorithm and baseline code is more efficient than ChatGPT
You can view their code since it is open source.
Kyle Bass shorted the Chinese currencies twice (RMB in 2015-2017 and then Hong Kong dollar in 2020-2021;) and he ended up losing hundreds of million of dollars twice, (i.e., in 2017, he lost almost 20% of his company's value due to shorting RMB; in 2021, he lost 95% of the money he had bet against the HK dollar.) That is why he hates China so much: he bet on China to fail, and China refused to fail, which made him lose A LOT of money.
Here, at the start of the interview, he sounded upset, hysterical, irrational and even scared. You could sense the tone in his voice. My guess: DeepSeek must have caused him to lose a lot of money betting on AI and big tech in the US. Even though this time, he was not specifically betting against China, but somehow China has just ruined his bet and made him lose money AGAIN. That's why he is so upset at China. Everything he's saying here is self-serving: i.e., ban DeepSeek and open source... because he's losing a lot of money to DeepSeek and open source!
What a heartwarming story. Thanks for sharing.
This guy is the anti Pelosi
This guy has no clue what he is talking about.
This guy hates China because he shorted Chinese currency 10 years ago and lost billions of dollars🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha.. i bet He have alot of Nvidea stocks aswell
😂😂
We all hate China
serves this idiot right
His investment style is hate.
"We lied, we cheated, and we stole."
No....USA got beaten ....racism does not work....Chinese are not stupid.
He is losing more hair because of deepseek.
😂🎉
😂😂😂😂😂
He needs some deephairclubformen
Hahaha
Ya, the debut of Deepseek had him pulling his hair out.
Happy to see that Americans are discovering that the world exists-and not only does it exist, but it also has people infinitely more intelligent than them.
Kyle Bass is the same loser who tried to short the Chinese Yuan on the hopes of the 2019 Hong Kong riots collapsing the Chinese government. We all know how that turned out. I'm surprised he's still brought on to lend his "expertise". He's a step up from Gordon Chang, but not by much.
I have to disagree. He is a step down, lol
You should live in China for 1 year then you would know something. You would be a big fool.
@@jiahan3849你们美国的房地产有房产税，我们中国的没有，你们的医疗就像一坨狗屎，叫一次救护车3000美元，我们只需20美元。你们社会大多数人需要两份工作才能养活自己，而我们人口比你们多，我只要一份工作就能养活全家。你们美国发电量比不过中国，GDP确比中国高，你们GDP的水分太多了。按照PPP来比较你们只能排第二，你们竞争不过我们，只能用国家安全来威胁我们，希望你们要有勇气面对，而不是像懦夫一样关起门来说对方威胁你们。😂
@@jiahan3849你们的GDP全在股市里，股市泡沫非常大，你们害怕我们技术进步，戳破你们的经济泡沫，英伟达股价暴跌5000多亿美元，所以你们感到害怕了，资本控制的媒体就马上宣称报道我们威胁你们国家安全。这就是你们政府和你心态，你们政府害怕失败，所以一直加高税务，包括对你们加税，然后你交的税补贴给AI产业，继续拉高股市创造虚拟的GDP。😂
@@jiahan3849中国一天就能生产十万发炮弹，而你们炮弹生产甚至满足不了乌克兰。我们只要开动产能，你们美军每个人都能分到20架FPV，我们的无人机正常产能就让俄罗斯和乌克兰一直消耗，而你们什么都做不了。希望到时候你们美国军队，能有钢铁侠一样的身体，来迎接我们的FPV。时代已经不属于美国了，希望你来中国体验一下高科技力量，而不是听你们媒体宣传。这个世界是物质的世界，不是虚拟股票世界，你们没有资格对中国科技发展说威胁，因为我们在造福世界人民。😂
Such a bitter guy that China has come up with a better AP on something that the United States values so much and he is going off about all the tired abs wasted anti Chinese tropes...
Anybody call this a copy usually have no idea how A.I works. They literally describe it in the Deepseek paper how they made the model. Cope harder.
They detail the open sources they used .. that's not copying. Does this guy not understand open source?
Chinese lie and steal. It's literally in the culture. They're taught if they're not lying or stealing they aren't actually trying.
I have to thank this guy for sharing his perspective. When I was in school learning about WWII, I never understood how people can be so evil with their bigotry and lies. The existence of this guy helps me understand now.
Kyle Bass is trying to give Gordan Chang a run for this money.
LOL put Gordon Chang in shame. The guy is such a loser and moaning loudly
A Gordon chang for each news station
Not with that attitude he won't
Kyle has realised the US has lost.
Yup, and he's verbally abusive and very unhappy about it and pretending he doesn't know much about Deepseek 😅
This video shows how sick America is. If you believe in free world, just compete like an adult. With this kind of attitude, soon the whole world will go anti America.
Closed Source == Authoritarianism
Open Source == Democracy
Denial, anger, bargain, depression, acceptance.
It is really simple to understand why Chinese AI is a lot cheaper, and more effective, at least, in the Chinese language domain. Chinese researchers and engineers focus on model and logic backed up by vast amounts of data collected by many big companies like Tencent. Alibaba, Xiaomi, etc, while the U.S. counterparts rely heavily on chips capacity and capabilities for computing. There is far more human intelligence involved in Deep Seek than ChatGTP. Human intelligence is lot cheaper and efficient and effective than hardware. The Western media pretend not to understand this simple fact because they don’t know how to compete with China and they don’t know how to deal with the consequences in the human intelligence domain. Cooperation with China is the only viable option for the U.S., so that the U.S. knows a lot more about what China is doing, and vice versa, for a better world.
The former CEO of Intel made a post yesterday that he had ditched the others and started using Deepseek 🎉
This video shows how sick America is. If you believe in free world, just compete like an adult. With this kind of attitude, soon the whole world will go anti America.
Labor is cheap AF in China so its totally believable that they did this under 6M. They're probably paid $2/hr...
Aka China was more easily able to train their AI on human interactions and data because they've been busy building a database of those human interactions through apps like TikTok. Deepseek will be the nail in the coffin of TikTok.
China is wise enough to keep America at arm's length. All know that outside of India, no country is less trustworthy than the USA. The hand that feeds America will lose finger after finger after...
By this logic, researchers worldwide "copy" stuff from each other.
China, China, China. Have we had enough China phobia? Why can't we just admit we lost again? And just learn something from Chinese and work harder than Chinese companies. Maybe, we can compete with them again in the future.
But that hurt too much...
When you are beaten in your own game
Donga saying "we" 😂 the Chinese bots are as cheap as the Chinese labor
@prolific1518 Sorry, I am an American who really cares about this country , not a Chinese robot. I guess anyone who speak something you don't like will be a Chinese rob in your mind, right?
@@prolific1518Chinese bots vs American silly folks haha😂
A lot of people have been working on this in their own way, so calling it "copy" is not exactly correct. If how they accomplished it is in fact true, how is that undermining? Were you expecting them to reach out and then discuss it first so that you don't all feel like a fool and then try to take credit?
More like a sore losers.
China: deepseek!
World: deepshock!
Silicon Valley: deepwreck!
Investors: deepshit!
American politicians: deepsick! 😂😂😂😂
😂😂 well said
American govt: Deep state
Good one 😂😂😂
never understand why CNBC like to invite the guy who shorted China and lost his shirts and shorts in the process, as China "expert". Now CNBC invited him to talk about AI, LMAO.
I’m here for the comedy 😂😂
😂that’s what losers always say…
This guy sounds like he's never set foot in China. He's a propaganda machine.
His mental health is a big concern.
I clicked on this video as soon as I saw Kyle's face on the thumbnail. Kyle didn't disappoint me. Entertaining as usual😂
Communism rocks; communism is cool!
this pathetic clown is hilarious
The only country that can’t be bullied 😅
Kyle Bass is practically blind if not legally.
He is totally clueless. What a fool.
👍👍👍
What a fool trying to tell the world how to live and what technology to use! It’s not up to him; who cares about him…
Before we listen to what he says, have him list all the conflicts he may have (how much in NVDA and other stocks he holds)
He lost big that's why he is so mad.
🤣🤣 stupidity in the air 😂😂
👌👌👌
Honestly, this whole idea that we should only stick to US products is a bit bonkers, eh? Like, have we not seen what the Chinese are doing lately? TikTok’s got everyone hooked, EVs are taking over the roads, and now they’re flexing with AI too. Meanwhile, the US is just throwing around tariffs and bans like it’s candy, trying to distract us from the fact that they’re lagging behind.
I mean, come on! Instead of whining about competition, maybe we should be taking notes on how to innovate instead of spreading lies. It’s like watching a kid throw a tantrum because they can’t keep up in a race. 🤦♂️ Let’s give credit where it’s due - the Chinese are bringing some serious game to the table. Instead of fearing competition, let’s step up our own game!
Who says we are "just throwing around tariffs and bans like it’s candy"? We want Panama for breakfast, Greenland for lunch and Canada for dinner, baby.
You drop your 👑 king.
@@eltonho09 Go back to your hut. Get some rest.
@@eltonho09Dont forget to take your medication.
It's literally open source!!!!
Does this guy manage money? You cannot be this biased and manage other people's money. Good grief.
This RACIST fool is COPING so HARD 😂
6:49 that friend is probably not joking about moving to China. She's probably planned everything already with her new Chinese best friends on Red Note and figured out all the formalities with DeepSeek 🤣
China, China, China......OMG
Groundless accusation again. This guy just can't recognize that Chinese people are very smart people.
This is what US propaganda looks like folks
This dude has a conflict of interest. Why is he being interviewed by CNBC?
Our OWN companies are selling OUR information to make money.
Yes and they didn't copy it ... they stole it.
Kyle Bass sounds defeated
The Chinese invented paper...
While greedy US corporation is upset with deepseek. American engineers are EXTREMELY happy that they can put AI into their laptop.
He still doubting how China can have space station orbiting the earth.😂
how do they undermine ? it is awkward being exposed
That is not the point Mr Bass, if govt provide lower cost then it benefit everyone. Then again atleast the chinese govt is focus on tech rather then war. But each LLM model need to learn overtime so it has to reside somewhere.
Oh, the expert guest admits he's not an expert at all... can you make it up?!
Kyle is highly invested in open AI😂😂😂
In contrary to the far right autocratic American government models I can run Deepseek autonomous. The advisary here is the US. China did everything right
I may have to consider china too if they have me. Maybe the black American population should move to China. Im so tired of colonialism
I hear the Chinese are extremely racist against black people, lol... many Asian countries are. You should Google it and be thankful of being in the US.
White people are least racist people in the world... that says something about the world we live in... white people care more than any other race... sure care more than my race does. 99% countries don't care for diversity.
黑人属于美国🇺🇸
黑人应该在美国🇺🇸占据主导和控制地位
不要再被犹太资本和白人控制了
Kyle Bass, Gordon Chang and Peter Zeihan. All the same talking points with some minor tedious differences.
They gonna ban deepseek chat bot app in usa. 😂 this guy compare it with tiktok, and call it security problem.
As someone who has lived in Asia most of my life it's funny how Americans can complain about an Asian company with an American asian news reporter and think that reporter is supporting America LOL nothing can be further from the truth .
kyle bass lost big money. Hear the quivering in his voice.
this guy has no idea about tech or AI but he talks 😮
He thinks we are stupid or what!!
Fools voted a fools to lead a country. Very unfortunate.
That’s right. COMPETE. Stop trying to hold China back. Make yourself better.
Can you spot all the broke Americans commenting?
Can you spot all the Chinese bots here, lol?
The first stage of grief is denial, and the second stage is acceptance.
Hayman Capital Kayle Bass is a liar all the time. He is jealous that he might not make enough money out of AI. Deepseek is an open source. You go audit yourself. Kayle does not have a clue.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
this guy doesn't have a clue. Open source is the proof! Its like showing the proof to a complex math problem. You just can't spin open source
Instead of blame others I think we should focus on ourselves，work harder and smarter. Accept the fact that Chinese are very smart
as a Chinese I hope all US people like the guy in the video.😆
Jealousy at its best
It's open sourced built on top of open sourced. So, US is not going to use open sourced? 😅😂
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Thanks for sharing this information with us, guys. This is really helpful for my situation......🌹
The thing is as people, we are usually skeptical about things we haven't yet tried, the truth is that you'll never know if it's profitable or not unless you decide to take the risk and give it a try, most successful people of this age are successful because they took the risk, "investing" and things has changed for the better ever since I realized it....
Colonizer tears are precioussssssss
Have you ever read the T&C of the American big tech? This video feels like a comedy sketch.
What this guy talked is what the U.S. intelligence is doing: the U.S. monitors EU leaders 24/7.
Gordon Chang’s white brother from another mother😂
oh man, could you give me a break...
The cope is off the charts in the usa 😅🤣😅😅😀
Saltyyyyy 😂🇨🇳
Deepseek is open source, a win for the free World. This guy has no idea what it means at all, it is embarrassing.
Meta trained its 405B Llama 3.1 model on 16000 H100 GPUs. Deepseek's R1 is a 685 Billion parameter mixture of experts model with 37B active parameters trained on 2048 H800 GPUs.
Mixture of Expert models are a lot cheaper to train than Dense models like Meta's Llama 3 405B, so the claim of deepseek owning 50000 H100s makes no sense. It makes perfect sense that R1 could be trained on a $6M budget on 2048 GPUs.
"Have you read their Terms and conditions?" It's like TikTok 4:29
Also like Apple's, Googles, MSFT, Amazon......on and on
who care as long is free !
"Kyle Bass's failed Hong Kong short got Bannon-linked cash" there's a reason why he's bitter !
Kelly is a joke.
What a clown
It took Newton 30 years to discover the law of universal gravitation, and it took me only three months to figure it out. I completed Newton's 30 years of research in three months. Who is the best?
Well, YOU ofcourse ! 😊🎉❤😅
@@itsmeGeorgina 🤭
Deepseek is awesome
I bathe in Kyle's tears.
Are you mad because you can't have Taiwan?
@@crap80 I don't care about Taiwan. Just like Trump doesn't care about Taiwan that's why he put 25% tariffs on them lmao.
Kyle is a joke on par with Gordon.
I’m constantly surprised one can actually hear things like this in a proper news report. Poor American citizens
"The young man" is 40 years old. Meanwhile, there's a 28 years old in the US who founded his AI company. He's Chinese American btw
The US needs to think about why they are in this state where everything is so expensive and the middle class is getting poorer?
Thanks Deepseek, for the Dip in NVIDIA; Thank you!🤑😇
Crazy American propaganda Hahahahah 😂😂😂😂
Most of your brightest are Chinese :)
And they came here to get away from your government...
'Undermining' = keeping the market sharp.