Exercise is a Profound Waste of Time
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It’s gotten to the point where I can no longer tell when he’s is doing one of his fictitious rants or being serious.
He is serious.
doctor mike working hard to control his laugh , props to that.
@@20ftBurmesePythonChaser which mike
@@RottenSprinklz You gotta see the spelling
To some degree, Mike isratel is always being serious. He just has to disguise it as a joke so that he doesn't get canceled.
I will NEVER get over the way dr mike blinks. Full mind muscle connection
It's like he's telling his eyelids to clap lol
@mrgreen...9643 this made me laugh so hard
Maybe from the 💉
Team Full ROM
@@amc1140could be lol but I will day it’s also a pretty common tick for people to have. I’ve have it since I was about 10 and I personally know a couple people that also have it. I’ve seen other famous people with it as well, such as Ryan Hall (UFC fighter and BJJ athlete)
The world where we no longer need to exercise got nothing on the world where we no longer need to sleep.
Sometimes I think how awesome it would be to be able to have all the time in the world but then again if we were up all the time traffic would never stop, work would be around the clock, shops always open, people constantly needing you knowing that you aren't asleep etc ... I feel like everyone would go crazy. We would need a pill to dump out or clear certain information or we'd lose our minds.
@@bradyouknow9313being able to not sleep and still be productive in a world where people sleep however, that would be amazing
@@bradyouknow9313 I can imagine it a restless mind could drive a lot of people insane
@@bradyouknow9313Well your life would also be 1/3 longer, that’s worth something 🤷♂️
@@FilleIceRisesyeah we go crazy without sleep because of the bad effects but cutting out those effects and the need goes together
To be honest I genuinely look forward to exercising and in my opinion any time spent that you enjoy isn’t a waste of time.
I believe he said he’d still do jiujitsu because he enjoys it, so you could still skip just ‘exercising’ and instead spend that time on other strenuous physical activities you enjoy.
I'd argue that if you enjoy it then you aren't going hard enough. It's supposed to be miserable 😂
I love to exercise as well. And its not Waste of time. But "everything you enjoy doing" isnt a Waste of time? Lets say someone really enjoys smoking a Pack of cigarettes a day, tons of weed, tons of alcohol, eating cheetos and pizza and just playing video games all fucking Day. And just LOVE doing that. Well, guess what? They are wasting time lol.
Then exercise, he finds for him is a waste of time, which means he'd rather do something else
@@happybedcomfyjello if you smoke cigarettes every day and you enjoy doing it? I think you should be allowed to do it. Most people won’t counter if the should quit until their addiction makes them miserable.
Got it.
Take pills to failure.
Full range of pills + Pills to failure.
And this time it will be your liver failing and not your muscles 😂@@rowanschischka3834
Swallowing at RPE 10
what does failure look like in this case?
😂😂😂😂😂
I'll keep eating these Lays on my couch while I wait for said pill. Been at it for 8years now, bulk is going crazy, can't wait
i’ll be right by ur side buddy. the whole world should go on a bulk until this comes out.
A majority of the world is doing this. Being a normal weight will be rare in 50 years@@WiredLain_
Stay strong guys. Never give up
The cut is going to be insane
'Cultivating mass'
Going from muscle failure to liver failure with this one🗣
Youre not very bright are you
Wym?
Lmao real
@@Fstop313 so saltyy
This is actually an on-going philosophical problem. And all it boils down to is, is pain necessary? Whether necessary as in *it teaches you “something” nothing else can teach you* or necessary as in, it is an unavoidable and essential part of life that shouldn’t be erased from the human experience.
Anesthesia in during birth had some aggressive pushback when it was first introduced to the public. People found it unnatural that pain was left out of the experience of life-making.
If a pill can have all the benefits of a 3h workout, what will a gym look like in 20 years? Will it become about suffering and overcoming pain? Will it become about aesthetics purely?
Was looking for someone to view this more philosophically; I feel like that’s the true dilemma. The issue with these drugs is that, although it could enable us to be more productive, the truth is most people would use their reclaimed time in unproductive ways, like lounging around more, thus they’d miss the psychological growth that comes with pain and discipline. If pain is necessary for growth, is it ethical to try to remove all the pains and ails that encapsulate the human experience?
You need JESUS.
@@HelloH-ku3cjhow's that relevant
Exercise pills keeping rats and mice big as hell
Peptides gonna be here in 10 years
Myostatin inhibitor?
@@saberxzeroexactly
Love this meme
@@thor498but like peptides are here
Next 15 years, “I really look forward to a world that has a pill to instant learn jiu jitsu”
Walle
@@ethosterros9430 Brain chip. Matrix. Neuralink.
Like Neo!
Whoooa! I know kung-fu!
- Ted 'Theodore' Logan, probably
"I know Kung Fu"
"Show me"
Its not about hurting yourself its about building yourself and your character. Its the best therapy ive ever had. Its the one place i can think through all of my emotions and take them all out. Lift heavy thing really does simply take away suffering
But unfortunately it's temporary. If you took that energy to farm, or build a house, you'll be more fulfilled because you used that energy on something to out last yourself and benefit loved ones for generations.😊
@@Jack-jp6ki yea. I havent been hurt this much before so im still learning about emotions and stuff. For now , my friends and the gym seem to help me the most.
@@Jack-jp6kiyou could do both first of all and I just feel like you need to have a purpose for why you're there and most people just "want muscles"
We all want things, but the question is why. Why do you want it and how will you use it to your advantage.
Cuz otherwise you'll just start to stop because it's too hard
Not everyone has a weak character and needs a therapy...
@@shadowbanned3044 pathetic. Its not about having a weak character. Just cause you are too lazy to work out doesnt make that my problem. It helps clear my mind and keeps me in shape. Cry about it more
The bulging vein on your head is "What is so wrong about that."
We will all be super soldiers able to be drafted well into our 70s to fight wars for oil conglomerates
Hell yeah
It's the politicians that start wars, the oil boys just fund it. Once the oils gone, the wars will keep going. Guess why.
This would be an awesome book idea
That’s just Warhammer 40K 😂
None of that sounds bad to me.
All I heard is that Dr Mike would rather give BJ's instead of exercise and he calls it a sport.
Lmao
Thanks, now I don't feel so bad, because that's exactly what I heard to.
i died
😂
That's funny. I'd be slipping my wife that pill.
I am in profound exquisite pain every day.
I have 5 degenerating discs in my upper upper back and have 3 tumors in the vertebrae in my lower back that ate resting on nerves.
My only escape from that is my home workouts that puts my body through a different type of pain.
I am stronger now at 49, then I have been in a very long time (though this has been a 2 year process)
In my mid 20s to mid 30s I did kickboxing, and while my stamina isn't as good now as it was then am I stronger my core is just as stable and I am no longer afraid of pain, anything else is just a distraction.
👏👏👏👍
Wow, that's very impressive and empowering.
Morally justifying consuming excessive amount resources (food) just to lift shit at the gym is already sketchy. Doing it just so you can eat 💊 is even more fked
Your brain and mental power literally develops when you do things which you don't like. The mental struggle and power of will is where it's at.
Yeah, a lot of things simply feel good afterwards because they were hard.
The magic pill in this scenario is always going to have side effects because it can never mimic the slow and delicate process of building the muscle. For example, if you grow muscle with a pill and your brain doesn't practice using the muscle as it develops, it's not going to know how to use it. It's like taking your brain and nervous system and transplanting it into another person and expecting everything to work as well as the original. The adaptations are slow for as reason. It's just an extreme version of steroids.
There are more productive ways to build those things rather than lifting weights which is his point
His point was to replace exercise with things that are more productive like training bjj which I imagine can also be tedious and mentally taxing
@kobibeen224 the problem is exercising builds neuromuscular junctions, most of your newbie gains aren't actually muscle hypertrophy, they are increased NMJ recruitment- basically your nerves get better at using what muscles fibre bundles you have. Also cranking the muscles doesn't necessarily boost the connective tissue and tendons, so good luck with that (I don't know if the mouse studies look at that sorry)
Shortcuts always have consequences…
Yep. Body wants to maintain homeostasis. Pharmaceutical intervention causes imbalances.
I think what he meant is he is looking forward to developing drugs where there is no negative side effects. Which I highly doubt would ever happen
@@frankxu7007it’ll happen just give it 200-300 years. Humans advance technology very fast and we are very good at figuring out solutions to problems.
@@frankxu7007keep in mind for the longest time it was set in stone in every humans mind that flight was completely impossible and multiple people wrote books about how it’s completely impossible for an aircraft to fly and then the wright brothers flew one
No they don't.
Even his forehead is ripped
Lifting heavy weights make you pull funny faces, your face muscles get a workout too lol
This man single handedly marketing for all pharma companies 😂
Yeah he is quickly becoming a tool for pharma drug lords. He has said some profoundly idiotic statements
As a soccer player this is so true😭, like fuck the weight room I’m tryna ball. But soccer does nothing for your upper body
Isn't it a disadvantage to have much muscle on the upper body for that sport because it means you have to drag around more weight when running, and you never use your upper body for anything in that sport?
@@alaron5698 yes but I don’t want to look like this💀
@@alaron5698yes but aesthetics😢
@@alaron5698 no... having more muscle is good for pretty much any sport, if you can magically add muscle then train hard and eat to maintain it and convert it into power producing muscle that's fucking amazing
trust me bro if youre gonna stick to soccer, dont have a big upper body. its like running with a weighted vesto once your pecs arms shoulders get massive. it slows you down
“There are others ways to hurt yourself!”
Me queuing for my next league of legends game: “YEP!”
Yeah, Apex Legends is my therapeutic torture.
Aye this guy 😎
Id rather have anti cancer and anti heart disease pills first pls
Pills would make being athletic meaningless, the hard work is one of the main reasons why it's so unique.
Bro read brave new world and didnt realize it was a distopia
THIS!
Now, where's my "Soma"?
Illiterate
Brave New World, Bioshock. Aldous Huxley was in my opinion the missing half of what George Orwell and Huxley warned us about.
@@Pizza626 My brother, by accident you just revealed a relation and possibly the one bride that was missing from one of my favourite books and one of my most loved games of all time especially my childhood.
You just completely brightened up my image
Everything from Rapture to now almost makes sense in some way
And it's just as you said, Huxley really is the missing half to Orwell
5 minutes of research and I can't believe how I could've been missing out on that for over 15 years
Thank you dude
This comment is ironically the most BNW-esque thing in the conversation, you're shutting yourself off to progress because of fear.
Soma is about EMOTIONAL stimulation. Muscular stimulation through a pill is no different from protein supplements or ibuprofen. There are people who cannot get bigger, who lack the mechanical ability to lift weights. This would be huge for them. So read BNW better before you throw around inaccurate connections. If you genuinely don't want to take those pills, congrats! You're free to keep lifting at the gym. But the guy who is missing a hand and is desperate for a balanced torso shouldn't be punished because you skimmed a book in high school.
The mental benefits of exercise far outweigh the benefits of ny magic pill to get the same result. Life is 90% a mental game, you have to have the right mindset or you'll never go achieve anything of any value and we see that all the time.
Imagine if he literally said this in the video (he did)
@@mihneaiordan1813if he is aware that we need to physically work for the muscles so that we can sow every positive aspect of lifting why is he defending the idea of a pill that makes you big without training and destroying your health?
That only means he gives a way bigger value to the aesthetic aspect of lifting than the health benefits.
Different people value different things
@@pedrovskidantini2324because you can compartmentalise those mental benefits by doing something else, exercise pill would give you that option. You can still go to the gym if you want but now there is a choice.
@@pedrovskidantini2324 If you had paid attention to the video, you would have noticed that he said he would prefer to do BJJ (brazilian jiu jitsu) instead of wasting time gaining muscle.
Literally he said that going to the gym "Has great psychological benefits, but there are other ways to hurt yourself, and that could also teach you stuff" referring to learning other things in Life, doing sports, or whatever, instead of lifting, which give you the same positive psychological effects of lifting weights.
Just the thought of it not having any horrible side effects for me is crazy, had some respect for that guy...
If we speak of the future anything is possible
Lifting is not ONLY about the gains.. it's about the pump and feeling good for a while and forgetting about your stresses and worries. The Gym is therapy for many people. No pill is going to do that.
Good point it's like going for walks to relieve stress, it's not just about what the excerise does for your body, but the excerise itself
... I mean, there are antidepressants.
@@owenangleton8032 Have you ever taken them?
@@owenangleton8032we want to be healthy not on pills !!
While true, you can get the same effect by going outside and doing physical activities in nature instead of locking yourself in a room to throw weight around. You just don't get the same kind of gains.
I do enjoy going to the gym though, so I’m not sure if I’d want to take the pill
Id do both
Why not both?
If the side effects were minimal or mitigated I'd be open to both, assuming the positive effects are cumulative.
@@susanwojcickisnicetwin atp that's more of magic than a pill
In his case, he likes training BJJ more than training muscle.
@@susanwojcickisnicetwinbecause there are people who want to build honest muscle. Being Natural. That would be Like taking Steroids
The great thing about the Internet is that everybody has a platform. The bad thing about the Internet is that everybody has a platform.
Goatis was 100% right about him
this dude is strange as hell
he gonna be remembered anyway, what about you average youtube commentator?
@@capnanaya4642 aren't you a youtube commentator ? Wouldn't that put you in the same boat as me?
@@capnanaya4642 Challenging physical exertion is part of a healthy mind and body and this guy in the video going against it is pretty weird. And he's also admitted to having negative psychological consequences from using steroids.
@@capnanaya4642 OP's observation still stand.
@@tomha9884 yeah so what though lmao i dont care
I love Dr. Mike but I personally don’t think I could live without the gym
Do martial arts or sports
Very fair. If that's what you love. All the power to you.
But some would take the pill and do some other activity. Like blacksmithing or trekking.
I get it, I like the gym too, but if the exercise/health pill existed I would take it, because despite enjoying working out I enjoy other things more.
@@rafaelalodio5116that’s true, but the psychological effects that it has on your mood are amazing, I would hate to have good physical health but be fatigued and stressed all the time.
The gym has been a part of my life for over 50 years and I love it.
If everyone is superman, no one is.
I would rather live in a world where everyone looks good and is healthy than a world where a small percentage of the world looks good and is healthy. I'm not sure if you're implying this is a bad thing but the whole point of evolution is to get greater results with less output. So maybe we will go from superman to supersociety.
Unless you work out for ego reasons of looking better than other people I think you should be welcoming a world where everyone can look good and be healthy with as little effort as possible.
@@steveharper879
I totally get what you mean. I was of the impression that illustrious success in anything comes from hard work and dedication, usually over a long period of time.
I feel that motivating oneself to exercise repetitively not only betters the physical form but also the mind (of course not everyone who works out is a great example of having good EQ, but for the most part it’s true).
If everyone had easy access to a better body, then no longer could you separate those with strong willpower from those who are lazy.
It would be a pity for those who actually worked hard; not dissimilar to talented individuals who are overshadowed by untalented influencers, for example.
But absolutely, living in world where most people are healthy would be amazing, especially for posterity. I suppose it comes down to education and not spreading false information like body positivity.
Thanks for the reply!
There’s always a trade off. There’s no free lunch.
Not if you train for the difficult
Did you not watch the video?
He said that is a benefit of it.
And be full
@@JTP1999it's a reference to Kyriakos Grizzly.
The bloatlord has the best filosophy for training. Biggest (or fullest) inspiration to me
FULL
I think this kind of thinking is one dimensional and misses many of the tertiary benefits of exercise. The sense of accomplishment or achievement at arriving at personal goals or beating PR’s, or completing a hard work out. The anticipation of beating records or progressing… no pill is going to replace that.
True, but you can also have that sense of accomplishment in serveral activities rather than lifting
He is also ignoring fundamental exercise science. Just because you turn on the androgen receptor, doesn't mean you will be jacked inside of a year. You need a physical stimulus to create damage to the muscle to create a place for the protein to go. The body is a feedback loop. You can't just flip a switch and tell it to grow larger... the only exception would be growth hormone, but this causes everything to grow.
I agree, and you can see this reflected in modern society. Many people’s hobbies are simply sitting on the couch eating junk food, avoiding as much physical and mental discomfort as possible. They have minimal tenacity or resilience to the challenges they encounter in everyday life and are slaves to dopamine in tech, food, etc.
@@SmurffNationnFor real, taking all the discomfort in our lives has made us weaker not stronger.
I do BJJ and workout it's my therapy for we have this fucked up world of ours lol
I genuinely respect people who truly understand science BEYOND what's acceptable and in the comfort zone of the society.
It's a psychological desire to be big as mike wants. There is no necessity to it.
Everything is a psychological desire
@@okharev8114 wrong. Whether or not you desire water, you need it to exist
@@greatone6196is existing not a psychological desire? A instinctual one, but still a desire.
@@greatone6196 Wanting to exist is a desire too, that desire can be extinguished too. Buddhism explores this topic.
@@greatone6196you don’t need water, you need it… to exist. You don’t need to exist, you want to exist.
I find working out to be a form of meditation. And nothing feels better than setring personal records in the gym, no pill can give you that satisfaction and i think it'd be easier to take your gains for granted if they came too easily.
It’s the movement that I find profoundly relaxing. Just focusing on my body position, and firing the right muscles at the right time, and doing that repeatedly, until all the other thoughts and worries that I always carry around are gone. It’s the flow state experience that I’m going for, where thoughts just get in the way
You don't know if there could be a pill that gives you that same satisfaction, maybe it also activates your reward system. Don't use words like "never" when we are talking about a thing nobody knows how it would work and the effects it would have.
Every pill a Dr ever prescribed me gave me some kind negative side effect, so I’m sticking to the gym even if a magic pill is invented.
I can imagine the issue where your body is carrying more muscle than you've worked for and your bones and tendons just can't keep up.
Mike:👽
Spoken like a person who does lots of pharmaceuticals.
Also does hours upon hours of hard training in the gym. What's your point ?
@@UditENG-xi4pu and hours of research too
I'm fairly certain that he is very vocal about it, and the regrets associated with it, and the cost/side-effects. Thus one would say the same about any other thing.
Ozempic is a great example of this. Technically a "fat-loss" pill that ACTUALLY works, but the costs are severe.
@@UditENG-xi4pu the point is that an exercise pill looks really good to him because he's already comfortable taking pharmaceuticals and dealing with the side effects in the context of fitness. That isn't reality for most people so most people probably won't be quite as high on this idea.
@@joshciliberto9423 An exercise pill without the side effects of steroids would become the most popular pill ever produced. Everyone would want to take it and why not? Besides, exercise has its side effects too.
I've always been careful not to ego lift, even so I've had injuries in my shoulders and elbow pain. Not to mention constantly dealing with DOMS, fatigue and the massive time commitment. I've never taken PEDs due to the side effects, but I wouldn't think twice about taking an exercise pill if it wasn't as bad for your health.
Also this reminds me of the scene from the Incredibles "when everyone is special, no one is"
If someone feels special because of their muscles/health that’s straight up just ego lol
@@imthinkingthoughtswell they put in a lot of effort to be good at what they do and what they do is hard for the average person to do when does ego become earned or is no one allowed to be proud of themself ?
The illusion of free will is quite an interesting phenomena. I think that people feeling proud is a totally understandable and adaptive emotion.
Self-esteem requires by definition being ‘better’ than others, but it’s shallow as it relies on comparison. In my view I’d prefer people have self-compassion, try their best, but remain independent of them being ‘better’ or ‘fitter’ than others. Of course this is very rational and probably not practically viable for most humans.
This is not one or the other. Ideally people will feel proud of themselves not because of their ego, but because of their efforts and gratitude for the chance that they had to experience this interesting world!
@@imthinkingthoughts people are their ego you are your ego a ego is made from what you do and what you experience being egotistical is where people should be focused solely on themselves, you can have a large ego and think your special without putting others down. People are born equal but do not stay equal, you can be better then your coworkers at your job and be proud of that and special in that work place but still encourage your coworkers to do better. While they could be better at something else making them special in that category.
if we are not our ego then why is it when we go through ego death you don't recall your past unless you think very hard on it since you live in the present without your ego to exist
Ego is not bad loving yourself and not backing down from it is good. Be egotistical because you are made for you
For this man, every day is head day.
“And when everyone’s super, no one is”
As I get older, turning 50 this year, I’m coming to understand the huge waste of time getting stronger, more muscular is. A few years back I was muscular, strong, had good cardiovascular endurance and I got sick and within a short time period all my years of hard work were gone. A year later I got back to somewhat where I was previously, except the cardio wasn’t there because the illness compromised my lungs. Then I got sick again and boom, gone again. Now I’m on the verge of turning fifty and it’s getting harder to not only motivate myself but the strength and endurance just isn’t there anymore. But I know the older I get the more muscle I will lose if I don’t continue to exercise and strength train. It’s a very depressing feeling knowing it’s all for nothing and one can lose all the hard work in an instant!!
That is unless you decide to get on TRT, not saying it's something you do but heck I'm 38 and have been lifting naturally for 15 still a life long natural and still keep myself in good shape, but I feel father time starting to catch up for sure, so I know at some point that might be my one and main alternative I might have to choose.
Don't compare yourself to your younger, more powerful self, compare yourself to other, older people, exercising consistently will ensure a better quality of life as you get older. You want to be the grandparent who can pick up the grandkids not the one who breaks when they bump them
Father Time never loses man, you answered your own question, you’re 50. Your prime is gone, still you can be strong and fit, but our life and prime is temporary, don’t compare yourself to the perfect physique anymore, it’s just straight not attainable for you as it once was
Don't stop, come back to training muscle, cardio, mobility. You know you got to do it. I had horrible injuries and I'm back. Good luck.
@@lizzofanI'm 51 and can do more push-ups than when I was in my twenties. Everyone's prime is different
As soon as you enter a bjj gym they hand you a bottle of steroids and a syringe
wtf are you talking about? Have you ever stepped foot in one?
@@Weoutherewildin your right bjj is a totally clean sport exactly like crossfit is
The roided pros are a small minority of people who train BJJ.
@@pawelmurias not in my experience
@@jasonjames6870 like the majority of the pros take roids, but most gym are filled with shit hobbyists
I think the biggest success from exercise and hardwork is realizing that true happiness comes not from quick results, but from putting the hard yards. Sounds illogical, but happiness or satisfaction is an experience and it cannot be intellectualized. I know I’ve succeeded if I care diddly squat about what others think of me or my physique.
the fact everyone does it and you make it stupid simple. That really helped with depression and feelings of belonging.
Why not just download bjj too like the matrix?
He said he enjoys training BJJ. Also, a pill affecting muscle growth is much less fantastical than streaming knowledge into the brain. 🤷🏿♂️
The engineering for the effects to be precise is difficult in both.
The fact that Mike thinks this world of genomic intervention is coming in the next 15 years is hilarious
Let the brother cope
Well, maybe a prototype. Not a consumer ready product. The issue isn't being able to do it, we can do it easily. The issue is making the side effects of the product not be terrible and life threatening.
He is a Dr. Put some respect on that...regardless of what you think, he is a PHD.
@@Pr4Hypertrophyyou think he's up to date on genomic research?
Having a PhD in one discipline doesn't make you an expert in another discipline, even if they are related, which these two aren't.
Damn Gawd why did I have to be born so early. No robowaifus, no eugenic dystopia, no genomic intervention, no exercise pill. Life is so cruel bros.
Not 10-15 years, probably 50 years from now with genetically engineered babies, where they will grow muscular, strong, and intelligent over time, resistant to most diseases, etc.
um.... probably not that long
the first human gene trials were like a couple years ago
and they went extremely well, so 50 years?
probably sooner than that
and odds are, most edits wont be on babies
see many genes in you are always being read
so if you make the change now
you'll see it sometime next week
baby changes will likely be limited
to preventing life threatening conditions
you should have to be of legal consenting age
to modify your body in a non-necessary way
But how else am I supposed to know I'm better than everyone else?
If everybody is jacked then nobody is jacked. The best part of lifting weights is showing everybody that you lifted a LOT of weights to get to your physique, taking that factor out makes it useless.
Why does it need to be meaningful. He didnt say so he cant be productive anymore hw ants to put that time to another field of productivity
@@strm3253because like everything in this world, when its difficult to do but you do it anyway its impressive to you and others, when you get super rich its impressive super jacked its impressive etc also the fact that the next step would be to engineer our bodies to be more perfect and more perfect and theres a point where we arent humans anymore if we dont have any flaws we are clones of eachother genetically modified just because we can
Was about to comment something like this
@@strm3253 Does anything have to be meaningful?
Wouldn't you love to be in a world where every single man looks the same, has the same strength, same amount of money, etc.
All WITHOUT any effort?
I sure wouldn't.
@@bigmitch7901 Mike was talking about hitting the gym. I think his point is fair, if you want to stand out there are tons of other activities that you can put your effort into.
Being "jacked" will become meaningless, because the respect is rooted in the time & effort it takes to earn. Same reason gear users of a certain level of "jacked" don't get the credit of a like sized natty. The respect or admiration is based on what it takes to get there.
Most people aren't getting jacked to earn respect, more to do with self esteem and attracting sexual partners. Everyone has their reasons though. If I could look in the mirror admire my physique with zero work/side effects and have my wife drool over my body, it would be awesome
For impressing men in general, yeah, but in terms of attractiveness, no one actually gives a fuck how hard you worked to get your physique. But there's also the strength of course.
Eh that's subjective. If anything, I'll go to the gym more if it's empty and doesn't have all the gym bros in it. If I can be jacked with a pill, I'll have more time spent with other activities like gardening and meditation. To go to the gym for people's validation is, in my opinion, asinine.
@@ClintcreatesAnd know that the physique you have doesn't represent anything on a meritocratic basis. That physique is just gonna be a suit you put on and off. It won't feel good.
@@LucidStrikeThat's why I chose powerlifting and strongman stuff. Lift heavy shit, not for aesthetics but to defy what people thought was Impossible. Be a human gorilla.
Like being in gym and lift. It helps push my mind as well as my body. I dont focus on pain, i focus on motivation. It is so enjoyable.
Stay away from drugs kids.
I don’t care about the muscle anymore. I’m jacked and feel great; I go to the gym to discipline my mind and soul. “Grind the iron or the iron grinds you” no pill can give you that
Do a sport
Or a crossword
That’s what is getting lost with all the “advancements” progress is more about making billionaires than it is helping humanity, yet humanity is always too dumb to recognize it.
@@AdamParkhurst I do MMA and BJJ and BYM
@@AdamParkhurst maybe when I’m in my 90’s
brother no its not a waste of time. if thats a waste then every productive thing ever is a waste cause you can always be doing something else
@@JoozOwnTheMedia-xi3fl i don't understand the want to take good things out of your life just because you can
@@JoozOwnTheMedia-xi3fl least anti semitic commenter on youtube
You're missing the point. It's not that exercise and results of it are a waste of time, it's the time you need to get to your best shape possible is a waste of time. I'd much rather take the pill and reach my best physique in a year, than go to the gym for 10 years straight to reach my limit. Although exercise in itself is fun, so I'm sure you could mix and match. if training takes up about 12 hours a week, with all of the time you need to get there, pack your stuff and whatnot, you spend nearly a whole month in an entire year just doing gym stuff and nothing else. Extrapolating that over longer periods of time, and the number grows even more. I'm sure you could spend most of that time, doing something more productive in some other field.
@andriidesu2936 yes but I'm saying he's saying it's a waste of time but for what? if doing one of the best things you can do for yourself over a period of time is is a waste then what would you do to replace it? And is that thing less of a waste of time? What he's saying could apply to everything and then we would have no reason to do anything
Its a waste in the sense that you could be doing anything else, learning something than just trying to get “big”. At least for me going to the gym is just a means to an end. No different than a job, something that needs to be done if I wanna be healthy but Id rather be playing sports or just take a stroll in the park
He forgot to mention how psychologically important hard exercise is. It creates strength of will, mind, and discipline by doing something hard. If we create a pill for everything, we lose out on what makes us Human, and has for thousands of years.
Most of the time, when you access molecular pathways with a pill, you don't access just one of them. That's what's wrong AND dangerous.
You can take recreational drugs that will release serotonin and make you feel happy but long term use will leave you depressed. An exercise pill would be the same because you haven't actually done the work to earn the reward of pleasure.
Nah
But the reward is only pleasure if you want to do it. Id take the exercise pill so i can do other hobbies and feel rewarded in those instead.
@@TheDinohunter2000 Whist you may not feel pleasure at first, the reward is becoming the kind of person that consistently does things they don't want to do in order to better themselves (or others). You can only get that through hard work my brother.
@@justinkay8674 Or I can work hard on things I find enjoyable instead if the pill existed. You can find similar results studying martial arts for example. Just for me working out is so mind-numbing. The results are good of course, that's why you do it, but if I had a choice I wouldn't hesitate. I have better things to do.
@@justinkay8674 I already do something I hate to better my life. That's called having a job. Why would I want to add working out on top of it if it can be bypassed?
“Exercise is a profound waste of time”
This is one of those absolute truths that rightfully comes across as great insight from someone who has already demonstrated their capacity to conquer it, because it is a fantastic insight.
Whereas in my case, when I realised it as an early teen, it just made me fat.
Its not tho lol if things come easy then the achievement of obtaining it means nothing
@@alexmiller8462get a social life gym rat
That would make the game completely unbalanced
“The easy way becomes the hard way.”
Because no pill comes with no side effects
Excellent answer.
Gym also has side effects
@@duncanw9901 negative side effects? Well you sound like someone who prefers pills over wotk
This man’s skull is caving in, his stomach is bulging like a damn backwards turtle shell, and he self reports that he has crippling anxiety. Bro needs to stop the drug abuse (steroids) before he dies 😭
But his head is so vascular. You can't get a cranium pump like that natty
@@city_of_coompton6832ya man, hes got muscles bulging outta his temples 😂
He is far from being Sam sulek. He is well versed in this stuff because that's what he did his PhD on.
As long as he can talk without sounding like he is walking up to the top of a forty story building it's quite fine.
What's wrong with that is the fact that it isn't a natural process and will have numerous side-affects for most people to some degree. Your hobbies and/or livelihood should be the main thing that keeps you fit.
I can see Mike saying next that eating is a complete waste of time and hopefully we lose our sense of taste 😂
It’s the only thing that cannot be handed to you. The only thing that has to be earned through hard work and discipline. And it’s achievable for everyone. Please don’t make it a gimmick for people with money…
First time I heard this.
Im still waiting for my personal flying machine, meal pills, and robot who cooks and cleans.
if everyone had muscle, would it be desirable like it is now?
Take mcdonald burgers. That taste is incredible, it's close to perfection. Millions spent on research, and it shows.
But does the ubiquitousness of mcdonalds make you stop noticing how awesome those burgers are? The answer is YES, that ubiquitousness alone will numb you down to an extreme degree because it's setting a new baseline for you (check out Weber-Fechner laws).
The main point of excise is not for the the physical benefits as much as the mental.
I think he is missing one of the bigger points of working out. People do it because it is difficult. The feeling of putting the time and effort into earning your body will never be replaced by taking a pill or doing it in some easy, synthetic way.
Ye, but that is also a thing for almost any human activity. So instead of focusing on bodybuilding he could focus and try to stand out in other stuff like BJJ like he said.
His very first point was that it had psychological benefits, but he'd rather put all that effort and pain into something he finds more fun. If you had the option to, let's say, surf for one hour or go to the gym for one hour, which one would you choose if the same amount of difficult effort lead to the same physical fitness? If you enjoy the gym for itself, hell yeah, more power to you brother.
Lifting weights is epic.
Gordon said hold my sarms
It‘s lil saying life is a waste of time
Idk about this one Mike, for me personally exercising and going to the gym has helped me so much in life. It teached me what I am capable of and helped me in all other aspects in life. It gave me the realization I can achieve so much more if you set your mind to something and the pain is only part of the process. Im not exaggerating when I say training with weights changed my life for the better. Also its just fun asf.
That is great, I'm just beginning to turn my life around, with weightlifting at the core of that.
But a small friendly point, teached isn't the word, the word is taught.
@@bigt43 Thats great to hear man, keep it up! Also I was kinda writing this while shitting soo yeah wasnt paying attention on grammar lol
They already have that, it's called steroids
u still have to exercise for steroids to work
@@jaharibell5689 it's a hotly debated topic, but studies suggest that anabolic steroid users will gain more muscle by simply being alive compared to people that don't take anabolic steroids and actively work out
@@bobjoehill3630 i stand corrected
He is talking about genetically shutting down myostatins I guess. Yes, our body produces something so we stop growing.
@@bobjoehill3630 People act like it's the cherry on the cake, but it's the entire fucking cake
10 or 15 years? That timeline is insane. Check back in 100 years
Being physically fit and healthy is one of the very few things left in this world that can not be obtained with some kind of shortcut. It is proof of your long term discipline and self control. It gives people something to work towards and feel like they're bettering themselves physically as well as mentally. A shortcut like that being available would make it less valuable.
If muscle became achievable medically, much less people would be as big as dr mike. People do it because they know everyone understands how hard it is. People won’t get unpractically big if you don’t have to work out
That framework is out of range for Dr Mike. He has a PhD in Med sport, not in social science or philosophy
the ideia of those drugs is to get the health benefits of the physical exercise for the body alone, it will not necessarily grow as much muscle as training not replace the psychological benefits of it.
Taking it would not make people develop bodybuilding bodies, nor magically unfat everyone
@@erickgomez7775Don't be a snob. I'm sure he can understand that perfectly well without any philosophy degree. One doesn't have to be as big as him, just big enough to have strength and athleticism without having to work for it.
@@erickgomez7775 are you fucking slow he literally debates and brings up ethics in his videos???
No. People do it to look good what are u smoking
That’s the reason one should always take internet celebs with a grain of salt. Their ideal isn’t necessarily yours
The shape of the ball on top of his body is the same as the missing molecule
My brain shuts off after 6 seconds with him.
Felt like an idiot for quickly googling. Google says its real. I still feel like an idiot.
The substances that grow muscle mass?
What would be so wrong with that? I thought about answering this in a comment and realized it would be too long.
My first thought is that it would devalue physique. If anyone can achieve it easily, then no one would appreciate it.
Person A: Check me out. My body looks great.
Person B: Yeah, so? Anyone can do that. It's easy.
@@positivelynegative9149oh no everyone got really hot and fit this sucks!
@positivelynegative9149 This is one part. In turn, this would devalue competitions based on physique. I don't actually care about body building, but Mike does, and I find it strange that he seems to appreciate the end result more than the work to achieve it. I think this is more an off-handed comment than a well thought out idea. But why you would highlight it in a short if that's the case is beyond me.
@@positivelynegative9149This intervention will be expensive as fuck. It'll be like showing off your bugatti.
@@Ewb7456He doesn't really care about bodybuilding as a competitive endeavour. He just wants to be jacked. Bodybuilding is already a drug sport.
Exercise is not a profound waste of time. It’s the only place where I actually relax and meditate.
I don’t think that anything that isn’t hard to acquire… isn’t worth having. If everyone was walking around with muscles at 12% body fat, how could I feel accomplished about the hard work that got me here?
you have a lot of good info but there are some things you say that make me question your integrity and the bases of your intentions and this is definitely one of them.
Seeing a lot of this attitude around here, they were talking scientific advances, I don't understand why anyone would be against a literal fucking panacea that would be that pill (a pill that actually gets you strong and in shape). I understand why everyone is against the implications of that advancement in our current system, but they were discussing medicine here.
@@josepmariasebastian8886 yoi obviously dont get it. And are probably still sleeping in the matrix. But if you havent already figured it out, trusting big pharma is the last thing you should do. Beside anything that comes easy doesnt come without a cost. Kind of like steroids... Hard work is the only way that should be glorified. This is among a few other stances he has stated that makes me wonder about him, especially him saying seed oils are good for you. Its ok to be a little biases but come on dude have some humility when it comes to common sense and actual proof/data that is being put out. Not just parroting the narrative that mainstream pushes. Makes me think he is bought and sold.
@@ryansilvernell915 Brother, he is talking about the scientific advancement... If science ever got to the point where he could take a pill and get the physical benefits of weightlifting without doing it, he would like that, I don't understand how is it possible that so many people fail to see that this is a conversation about medicine and the progress of science, they're not speaking about how that advancement would fare in our current society because that is a different topic. And you don't need to lecture me about big pharma, I've been fucked over by the Medical-industrial complex more times than I care to count. This simply isn't that conversation.
@@ryansilvernell915Dude you sound like a 12 year old
@@boyd3680 lol and you sound like an ignorant uneducated dumbass. Thanks for trying big guy
Depends on your goal. David Goggins is a great example. Most people train for cosmetic purposes whereas Goggins trains and does difficult things not for his body, but for his willpower. Strong willpower will move mountains and strong muscles will only move men.
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Yikes… removing the _effort_ from having to try to be one’s best, is why everyone is miserable. Instant gratification is unsustainable.
Exercise is not a waste of time at all, but you know what really is? Sleep. Imagine a world where humans don't need to sleep, we'd have so much extra time, life would be so nice.
I disagree. I don't believe that the bums who sit around and refuse to put in the work deserve to have the physique of someone who does work for it. Imagine all the returds that would suddenly also be in-shape without all the other things you have to develop to get in shape normally
Same could be said about you because someone somewhere works harder than you. It's all about your ego for you, you wanna feel better than them
Ye but things get easier as time goes, having a muscular natty physique was much harder in the 60s relative to today due to our increased knowledge in muscle growth, 100 years from now the average muscular physique today might be considered below average. So it’s all perception, the guys that work harder will still generally have a better physique than the guy that didn’t work as hard provided they live in the same time period.
True man. I dont want the lazy asses to achieve good physique without working out
Yeah it’s best that these things require hard work, time, and dedication, otherwise it really is undeserved. Getting something for nothing
@@benshapiro8623 the average physique today in America is obese
Excercise teaches discipline, or also affects other psychological pathways. Not sure a pill would help with that.
But he has two disciplines. He's saying he would take the pill so he can go 100% in one discipline, instead of "wasting his time" exercising and compromising the results of his fighting training.
Bullshit. I lift for hypertrophy and fight and I'm an undisciplined loser in other aspects of life.
@@user-he4ef9br7zsame 😂😂😂
Both the replies are perfect here I wanted to say stuff but they have said it all
I can only imagine the amount of work and time that will go into ascetics if you can just take a pill to look like you've exercised
"I wish I could get muscle from pharmaceuticals"
Boy do I have a product for you