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Herc gets totally focused on Bruno right before he lunges. He just stares without shifting his gaze. That is guard dog behavior. Y'all need to break that look at once when he's starring at Bruno. He's treating Bruno as a danger.
100%. Have to get that tension out of the leash. He's on edge and confused because he is sensing the tension. A relaxed, slack leash tells the dog he can be calm and relaxed, not "on guard". Herc needs to learn those same basic obedience commands that Bruno is learning - and doing great at.
I also worry about Herc's throat with collar and leash tension.
Yep!
I agree, need to defuse the stare Hercules has by turning him from the thing he’s got his tension on, turn him away when possible and for safety sake!
What are you expecting Bruno to do as a job ? When herc lunges you need to tell him no sternly otherwise you are setting both dogs up for failure. Use a slack lead as much as possible and I would suggest a lot more work with Herc and his commands, he runs the farm which includes you two. Your fear of the two dogs hurting each other is translating to Herc and causing him to be reactive. I want you to succeed and sometimes loving something is telling them no.
I must say, it warms my heart to see such a large response to this video. I, and a few others have tried to leave helpful comments many, many times.....a lot of mine were removed. There is sooo much to talk about in this video. They mean well, but don't have a clue. Thinking when you have a little knowledge about something and yet act like you are a professional can be dangerous. Of the Doss family channels that I watch (one I do not watch). all of these folks are too "soft" with their dogs, and they definitely have a fear of them. Nothing but affection, which is great, but discipline is needed too. Nala has aggression issues that were never corrected, and now they say they can't brush Herc...I left a comment (they actually left this one) and they responded if I wanted to be attacked, I could come and try to. I left a lengthy reply to that one but not sure if they even saw it. I love these folks, also want them to succeed, hope they can take our advice as helpful and not hurtful.
@@user-wz3hj6nn7f When I see Herc lunge at Bruno it scares me and reminds me of another brothers channel (that I stopped watching) , due to the number of deaths, injuries and disappearances of animals due to improper care and lack of precautions.
K&S - please listen to the great advice of so many: loose leash=relaxed owner, tension=tense owner! The "You're ok" & "good boy" are given at the wrong times and reinforcing negative behavior. You're so good about researching topics, please do some research on training! We do want you to succeed and everyone to be safe.❤
Tension on the leash will make you feel more in control but to the dog it communicates your anxiety which triggers a more aggressive posture.
Walk them side by side but far enough apart you can keep the leashes a little slack and your own posture relaxed.
I fear you are communicating to Herc the opposite of what you wish to. The longer you keep them apart the more weight and tension you are putting into the interactions. The older the puppy gets the more difficult it becomes.
Drink the goats' milk and you won't get poison ivy!!
Great advice.
My husband gets so upset because our pup walks better for me, we start off knowing who is in control before we even leave the house. Starts at threshold respect tbh. My husband thinks I take overboard yet the proof is in the pudding😂
I agree 100%. Tense leash = tense owner. Slack leash = relaxed owner. If you want Herc to get along with Bruno, you have to get that tension out of the leash. Otherwise he's forever going to be "on guard" whenever he's near him. It's mixed messages to Herc and he is getting confused.
@@mommabird2813they can only really have ONE master. Not saying hubby cant but ik exactly what you are saying. Its the same here. Daisy listens to me as the master here, and hubby doesnt understand that. Thats what they do what they know. She knows who is the trainer. They can only have one. It confuses them.
You know I was watching toward the end of the video with Hercules and Bruno. I noticed that every time Hercules lunge to Bruno, Kyle told Hercules good boy and petted his head. I think that Hercules thinks your telling him he's a good boy by lunging towards Bruno. Maybe if you tell Hercules NO, BAD BOY, or something he might learn not to do that. I think Hercules thinks he's supposed to attack Bruno. That's just my opinion. You know them better then anyone else. It just looks like you were telling Hercules he was a good boy doing that. That's why Hercules was wagging his tail. He thinks that's what you want him to do. "ATTACK AND KILL LITTLE DOG" 😆😲
That's exactly the message it's sending. Herc thinks he's being praised for lunging and growling. he needs to be told No! When he does that and praised when he's ignoring him and not acting out. Mixed signals are going to cause more problems.
Herc needs to listen to Mom and Dad no matter what!!! No cushy your ok when he is hunting Bruno. More like (hey) knock it off. This is a baby.😊I teach all my dogs the baby command.
I think you need to tell herc no when he goes after bruno. Do not allow herc to think it is ok to go after bruno. You are the one in charge, not herc. Herc is just there to guard the goats, not to be their boss. And herc should not be bruno's boss.
That is the truth
Dogs listen to the tone of your voice, so you need to be more stern when telling Herc NO!! I took my dog to Obedience classes as a puppy and it worked well. You are their boss Kyle NOT Hercules. Hope this will help in the training of these lovely guys.🎉🐕🐕🐾🐾🙋🏡
Absolutely.
❤❤Thank you Shanon for doing Grandm does dinner on Mother Day she sure deserved it been though a lot ❤❤
lovely stairs Kyle
I didn't want her to have to do anything that day 😉🩷 I love her lots! 🥰
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Kyle not sure you seen my comment on training on your last video. When hurk wigs his tail its not friendly. ,hes licking his lips while means anxious . you actually told hurk it was OK to go for the pup ,you even prised him with a pat for it without realising you did it .. use strong voice tell hurk no . He needs know attacking, growling or anything likethat towards.the pup isn't acceptable.. using food treats to get the dogs to force on you.itll help to keep both dogs calm, listening and watching you instead of him planning an attack.. tip for food treats use something they will love like sausage. It's to give them a taste and to fill them so cut up small
I would not be using a retractable leash with Herc as I have seen them break with large dogs.Use a strong leather leash when Herc is interacting with Bruno to be on the safe side.
I trained dogs at our local shelter. I suggest taking the boys on a daily walk up and down the driveway to the gate. I mean walk not stroll. Walk with a purpose. Teach Bruno to "heel" as you walk. Also try not to let the boys get in to a staring contest. Y'all are doing such a good job with Bruno. He is so smart and obedient for his age.
And always on your left side. I used to obedience train my dog long time ago.
Yep
@@suebee1436 it honestly don’t matter which side, they’re not training for competition or even taking their pups off their farm. With that said, mine is trained to heel on left and right.
Taking Bruno and Herc on walks together will help their bond. They are doing well. ❤
But not until someone has complete physical control of Herc and taught the "leave it" command thoroughly. Also not until the human is leading the dog, not dog leading human. Puppy too. Then yes to the walks.
People had mentioned when you got Bruno at such an early age that there can be behavioral problems and that is why he should have been introduced to Nala and Herc from the beginning, so he was taught dog social behavior. That is why he is so "wild" when he is with Nala. She is tolerant of him but will correct him when she has had enough. Herc has been with her since he was younger, so he knows his boundaries. You are trying to introduce your dogs with tension on leashes...tension creates tension. Herc's body posture was not of a dog wanting to meet another dog (Bruno's was), but one of a dog stalking another and ready to attack, look at his body language. And after he charged Bruno, you pet him (Herc), telling him its's okay, which translates to Herc that he just did something good. Herc was the aggressor each time. Bruno was willing to meet, not Herc. You should not have to get dizzy from following your dog--make your dog follow you. Herk's putting/pressing his head on the goat's shoulders and trying to mount is not sexual, it is dominance. I do not understand why you feel every animal you have must submit to Herc. You don't realize it, but you also submit to him. Please, if you don't care for what I am saying seek professional help from a reputable dog trainer/behaviorist. You mean well, but things can get out of control. I wish you and your dogs nothing but the best.
I agree....for the benefit of all.
Exactly, my mom’s friends gave her a ShihTzu puppy at barely 6 weeks old, she has no sense of proper dog etiquette or boundaries. She is just like Bruno, always in our ShihTzus face, jumping on her and just won’t leave her alone. Luckily ours just ignores her or avoids her, I wish she’d snap at her to put her in her place. Puppies need to be at least 8 weeks so they learn boundaries from their moms.
Poor Bruno doesn't get interaction with no one 😢 ❤
I agree!
Kyle, please watch these things, constant pressure on the leash is not a correction for going after Bruno, but Herc should be "corrected" for doing that. Please watch Dog Daddy Augusto or Cesar Milan Dog Whisperer, because holding that pressure increases and prolongs the tension he's feeling. And telling him he's doing good while in that state of mind is reinforcing the behavior that you don't want. A tail-wag does not always mean happy, safe, or friendly, so don't misunderstand what you're seeing. Also, that retractable leash might be fine under certain circumstances, but you need to use a real leash for these "training sessions". Briskly walking both dogs together on short leashes helps them to socialize with each other while expending their energy. The job of a great dog trainer like the two mentioned above, both on yt, is to train the owners how to train their dogs.
Shanon would be able to take both leashes and step off on a walk down the driveway and back with no pulling or growling, a nice safe walk with both dogs behaving. Slow walks on your trails will become a possibility quickly if the dogs are started properly leashed and respecting your authority. I implore you to watch the trainers and apply their techniques, because neither of you are strong enough to stop Herc or protect Bruno if things go south the way you're doing it now. I love you guys, and the whole Doss family, and would never want you to suffer a tragedy that is preventable with proper technique and training. You'll be able to walk either dog on a .25-cent leash with two fingers, with their techniques. Just watch and study what they say and do, and you'll be enjoying both dogs together in no time at all. And Herc cannot be the dominant male (alpha) on a leash, on a walk, you are the dominant, the daddy, or Shanon is, not the dog. Herc knows his job while he's working, but he has to yeild to your authority while leashed, and you have to understand how to use your authority. ❤
I believe in both YT you mentioned but especially impressed with DoggyDaddy! Your advice is ALL spot on!
Do not watch dog daddy for the love of everything good. Goodness sake. Cesar is fine, dog daddy is not. Punkass Dog Trainer is a great one, TeamFloppyEars is another great trainer, the_pack_dog_training, southenddogtraing, Tom Davis. They will show you results.
I had to chuckle when reading this...I love Cesar and think he is the best, liked him better in the original Dog Whisperer series. But I think K&S would absolutely pass out if they saw Augusto in action. Going from saying please and thank you to your dogs, not able to give a decent command, and then introduced to Dog Daddy...oh, my goodness, I can see it now. One thing is for sure, an intervention is needed here.
@@user-wz3hj6nn7f I do not and never will recommend anyone watch The Dog Daddy😡unless they like harming their dogs. Cesar is good, PunkAssDogTrainer(Jonas Black)SouthendDogTraining, Tom Davis. All have no issue showing results, and their methods. So many better actual trainers out here, heck PetSmart is better than the dog daddy.
I don’t understand why you pet Hercules and tell him he’s a good boy when he shows aggression towards the baby dog.
It's a mistake, for sure. That is how dog fights happen. Herc doesn't "deserve" to be the Alpha dog just because he's the LGD. Heck, Nala is the boss in my opinion, which is great since she has a very calm yet authoritative energy to her. They should not be setting up the hierarchy for the dogs. The tense leash is only sending tension down to Herc. He needs to be led with a slack leash so he knows that Bruno is a friend. It's confusing him. Herc could stand to have some of the obedience training like Shanon is giving Bruno. He's a smart little pup and is doing well to sit and watch Shanon shoo the goats out of that pen. He's amazing actually. The fact that he is afraid of Herc is not a good thing. Reenforcing Bruno's fear as a good thing with Herc is the opposite of what you want to do. It certainly doesn't make Herc less of an LGD.
Hi Shannon & Kyle,
Dogs respond to their human's energy. Your energy flows down their leash. Your tension on their lead can give off the sense that you're insecure and that you're not in control of the situation. Pulling back and continuous tension on the lead can make them become an unsure, insecure, and/or leash-reactive dog. The "PRESSURE & RELEASE" technique is the best practice.
WALKING TIP: If you both have a dog on a short lead? keeping them AT YOUR SIDE. Take both dogs for a walk, the walk should be SWIFT and ideally long enough to wear them both out some. While on the walk they should NOT be allowed to stop, sniff around, or wander freely, no potty breaks, and no marking territory. The walk should be continuously moving forward so they don’t have time to think about each other or who's claiming territories or humans.
SNIFFING EACHOTHER TIP: At first, butt sniffs shouldn't be any longer than about 3 seconds, then you walk each dog away from the other in an outward circle motion.
Once they have had a safe and confident introduction, in my opinion, anything outside the goat enclosure should be equal territory for all three dogs. Again, in my opinion,(from my current experience of having 6 dogs), when the goats are out of their enclosure and grazing the property, (overtime)the dogs will typically work TOGETHER as a PACK to protect the animals, humans, and property from unwanted intruders or predators. Each dog will figure out their position amongst the pack on their own. One dog may move forward to confront the threat and the other one may stay back to protect the animals or property. If I were in your position, I wouldn't try to keep a dominant dog outside the goat enclosed. Let them work out the dominance or top dog on their own.
Example: Hercules will likely always be the dominant dog inside the goat enclosure but they may work it out on their own as Bruno being the dominant dog outside the goat enclosure.
I hope this is understandable and not confusing. I'm only trying to help y'all and the doggers. 🐕🦺🐕🦺🐕🦺🐐 I hope this helps out a little. Keep up the hard work, it shows. Sending hugs to the furanimals and hoomans. ❤
I’m sure Grandma Doss appreciates having a daughter-in-law that can cook and spoil her on Mother’s Day. What a blessing you are Shannon.
Who told you that it’s normal for your LGD to mount the goats? In 50+ years of being around goats and LGDI I’ve never witnessed that odd behavior. Just asking. You praising Herc for being a bully is never ok. He is long over due for some correcting and stern quick voice commands. I know you are trying but possibly some professional intervention is needed.
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I think it shows dominance, but I also have never seen a livestock guardian dog act that way toward his flock
I love you guys. Keeping leashes tight will sometimes cause them to fight. They can feel your fear etc. through the leash. Keep telling yourself to take a deep breath and relax. Love you guy's.🥰
Àre you teaching Bruno to respect Herc or fear him? Tension on the leashes translate to protect to a dog.
This tension, tells the dog it's time to get ready to fight- and makes them tense. They react, we pull them away as they react, when we feel we are far enough away, we loosen the leash.
Tension on the leaches is the worst thing you can do to try to introduce dogs. As said, it indicates to the dog that he is stronger with his master. You should use long leashes and permit the dog to meet (smelling the rear (butt), etc. For Bruno, à tense leach can really scare him because he can not fly if Herc is agressive. Bruno will only have the choise to fight back. It can become ugly…. You just have to be vigilent to act at any sign of agression. Also, I am sorry to say, but the notion of alpha dog is no more in use. Human is the « alpha » meaning that you herd your dogs the best way you can do so the dogs relie on you. Thank you.
I agree 100% - it will always create tension in the dog when you have a tight leash. It's like the dramatic music in a horror movie - just waiting for something scary or bad to happen. Shanon had it right to have slack in the leash. Tight leash = tense owner / slack lease = relaxed owner. When Bruno grows up and is the confident boy he's bound to become with good basic obedience on him, it will trigger a dog fight. One day Bruno is just going to say "back off buddy" and if all Herc has ever felt is tension around Bruno (from the leash and his people), it's likely going to be game on.
Having the goats out while trying to get the dogs together is a mistake. Hercs job is to protect the goats, first and foremost. Bruno is the enemy. The best way to get them together is to walk them together without the goats. let them smell each other, walk them closer and closer as their confidence with each other grows. Keep the goats completely out of the training, its whats best.
I do think the interaction between Herc and Bruno maybe should have happened day 1.
letting Herc lunge and growl at Bruno isn't a good idea, especially when you're telling him he's OK and petting him which he would interpret as approval and/or encouragement, making him think that's what you want him to do. when he does that call him back to your side and have him sit without touching him. If he's pulling on the leash trying to get closer to Bruno instead of walking him closer make him hold his place. you don't want to give mixed signals which could have disastrous effect.
Yep, that's how dog fights happen. They have to get the tension out of the leash. Tension in the leash indicates a tense owner and Herc being the bigger of the two (for now, haha), he's thinking it's his job to protect K&S. If the pups are walked together with slack in the leash and lots of praise and high value treats, they'll come to learn that the leash is a good thing, not a source of confusion and tension.
So what i see with Herc and Bruno, is yes they need to stay on the leads. You and Shannon will need to keep the distance but they need to walk beside you, when they hone in on each other, you need to distract them and turn around. When they respond to you by a command and they follow your command, reward them. Bruno will be easier, Herc is older but still young enough. It takes a lot of time and patience. Also being they are so big, they make training harnesses that will help keep them from pulling you. You should always lead them, you are their Alpha, they should always be by your side. They are good dogs and have great potential.
Tail wagging does not always indicate joy/happiness in a dog. It simply means the dog is interacting with something, aggressive or not. 🐾🇺🇸🐕🦺🦮
How about a portable ramp for Nala? The steps are still painful, for her.
Bruno is such a good little dog. He listens and plays well . Herc is simply a spoiled brat who thinks that it's all about him and nobody should be allowed to get more attention. I wish they would have been taken on walks together from the get go, to get used to each other. By now they would be buddies and enjoy each others company.
Here is the alpha dog. That’s the way it is in every pack. They will get along eventually 🙌
I agree about the walks !
I feel like if you had introduced the 2 dogs to each other through the fence when you got Bruno, that Hercules would be more accepting to him.
Oh yes
I'm so impressed with how well, Bruno is coming with his training. Great Job Shannon!
Because Hercules is. Caring dog you should have let him have Bruno as a baby like the goats now he feels he is competition.
Agree with other comment about you being in charge NOT Herc. I would walk both of them side by side down to the gate and back with one of you in between them. If they are walking, they will concentrate on the walk instead of trying to kill each other. Cesar Milan always used to start new dogs on a walk.
What I have learned is, if you hold the leash tight you are giving a dog a signal that he has to protect you from something or someone. So for Hurculis it's a sign to protect you from Bruno.
Do you think you might want to invest in a stronger leash and collar for Hurk, you know, maybe🤔
If sure hate to for something to go south, you just never know... do many unpredictable things could happen. If rather be safe than sorry ❤🎉
Becareful Kyle, don't let Herc, hurt that little puppy. I know you talking all big shot about Herc. Shannon, keep an on Kyle. ❤ ❤ 👅 👅 😊
Shannon that was so sweet of you to cook for your mother-in-law and your mom. I know they really appreciated and enjoyed it.
Bruno Did A Good Sit and Stay!
Your right about the animosity between herc and bruno, once bruno is fixed it will calm between the boys
Not necessarily, two neutered males, two spayed females, neutered male and spayed female, can still have issues. Spaying, neutering may help if the problem is hormonal, but not a guarantee.
You need to at least talk to a trainer so you get a better understanding of what you’re doing. YOU should be in charge not Herc and Bruno is just being a puppy. This is a very critical time and imprinting for Bruno. Much easier if you get it right and not have to correct later. I know you think you know what you’re doing but you are causing the issue not them.
Happy family time. No obedience training of any of your dogs?? Puppy should know sit, down, stay, come and leave it. Herc too. No controls here. You can look up how to easily. No excuses.
Be strong and assertive with your commands. Your dogs will appreciate it in the end ❤
Nope don’t put tension on either leash tbh, makes both dogs feel like they have to be on guard tbh. Will also make both feel like there is some reason to be on guard around the other dog just saying. My rule when walking our pup on lead and others want their dog to greet her, keep it moving because I take clues from the handler. Always have lack leash, gives you more leverage when needed.
If Bruno bites that toad, it's gonna make him foam at the mouth.
It probably would have been better if you had started socializing them when you first got Bruno as a tiny baby.....always wondered why you didn't.
I think that K & S were afraid that Hercules would eat him?
I love how Bruno sits down and just looks around, at times. So cute.
Okay Shannon you have to be very careful with toads and dogs some of them are poisonous to the dogs be very careful❤😊
I have same thing here. Mine is always wanting to mess with toads.
You and Shannon should make a space for a fruit orchard apples, peaches plums, whatever you guys like just a thought
Kyle, make sure you show Shannon those wild strawberries so she can buy a planter to put them in. They are super sweet
I've always read it:s important to introduce new pets in neutral areas. Like away from the current pets main Domaine.
My son in law alway when bringing home a new puppy would introduce to big dogs right away" its a puppy". Bruno and Herc will probably never be friends. Sad, I love Bruno
Thank u for taking the time to make your mother in law her favourite meal ! She was so excited to have u cook . She need a brake some times . Glad she retired and enjoy her time at home ! Life is to short . I know my self ! I worked and worked ! Than got sick ! After I worked so much never got to do the things I wish I did ! We can’t change things when it to late ! U are amazing daughter! God bless u ! AMD the family !
If you rub under Herc's under his neck and rub it all over Burno and do the same to Burno under his neck to Herc it should change the dynamic in their interactions. It should help them to accept each other easier.
Ok guys you got to fence off garden to keep goats and dogs .birds out
Rabbits and deer too
The mounting by Herc is reinforcing his dominance over the goats, letting them know that he, not Bruno, is in charge.
From having bred and raised dogs, I wish you would have gotten the dogs together sooner. Bruno would have learned much earlier that Herc was in charge and Herc would not have felt challenged by Bruno when he was much smaller. We introduced our adult male to the puppies at 3 to 4 weeks, supervised, of course. By 6 weeks, adult was running around with the puppies and putting them in their places while playing with them.
Dog , "mounting" a goat like that is actually something should be reprimanded. LGD job is to protect a herd from PREDATORS, like coyote and big cats , NOT "intimidate" with such negative actions. PERIOD. They are designated livestock GUARDIAN dogs, not livestock CHASE dogs. Only livestock need to be herded in that sense is sheep and dairy cattle, not goats. And then more skilled for herding is like Border Collies and Shelties not LGD like Great Pyrs and Anatolian. The place Herc came from does not allow their LGD to be aggressive whatsoever or it is reprimanded. They have other fam dogs. Other goat farms also reprimand LGD being aggressive with goats or other farm animals. The role of an LGD is to chase off PREDATORS not other dogs and livestock. Training starts when It comes home from momma ,as a 6 week old to the actual herd. Not 'some time later' when convenient. Those weeks the puppy is elsewhere without the herd they are intended to guard, fosters confusion as to its role and poor behavior when it is finally placed with a herd. After all it's a working dog looking for its job. Penned up on a porch or in a kennel away from their working herd leads to boredom, lots of negative and wayward behavior that needs to be unlearned in that case. There are right and wrong ways for training. Either work with a pro who knows proper LGD behavior or having an older trained LGD can teach a young puppy "the ropes". Breeds are more or less task specific And owners do make mistakes. Most people wouldn't guard their farms with a golden retriever anymore than taking a Yorkie out in the field duck hunting for these reasons other than having a bunch of chaos. Training requires understanding the dogs actual working purpose and what's proper behavior for the task. A mother dog will quickly show a pup when it's in error in the field. It's always been this way. It is what it is. My uncle's sherperd dog Pete always got the girls in for milking from the pastures , but if he tried runnin through the chickens and ducks that hung with a couple Alpine goats,he got an earful from Molly the Kuvasz LGD they had. She let everyone knew if someone come on the farm. Pete didn't mess with the barn kitties either. They often napped togther.. it was always a great time staying there. Nothing beats "farm fresh" food😁
@@Og-JudyI think that's why Blue had problems with Herc.
Wrong to blame her!
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Agreed 👍 💯
Be careful with toads. There are some that are poisonous to Doggo's.
Oh yes please be careful I watched on facebook a dog caught a toad and made him really sick and they had to rush him to the vet.
If he eats a toad it could kill him. My cousins dog died from one. She was in Ga. So idk if the toads are different there or not. Please look in to it. Love you guys and all your fur babies. Stay safe.
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You got a tough road ahead with Bruno and Herc. I heard a long time ago from a family member two males together even fixed will always try each other to be the Alpha dog. That is the the wild dog in them that goes way back. I do pray it will work out but I fear when Bruno is full grown it might be a real test for you. I hope I am not too negative. I love you both for your love and care for your animals. Everything is a learning experience. 😊❤❤❤👍
Kyle if you are bothered by poison ivy, if you will get some old fashioned lye soap and wash the effected areas it will wash the oil from the ivy and help dry it up so it doesn’t itch. This has worked for generations for helping get rid of the rash.
Yes, we use Fels Naptha soap. It's the only thing our doctor told us to use many moons ago to break the oil bond to the skin and we haven't gotten any poison oak since.
You guys better be very careful because when Bruno gets older, the two breeds that make him are vicious and if those two boys get into it when Bruno is an adult, it will not turn out OK. You are definitely gonna have your hands full not only now, but in the future if these two dogs do not get it together. Hurk also has to know his boundaries and know that it’s not OK to bully Bruno because if he thinks it’s allowed now, he will continue to do it down the road.
That depended on the owner tbh. I have a Pit/Chow, Pits are lovely dogs with the right handler, same with Chows. It’s always best to do research before hand
Its the owner not the breed. Ive owned, trained, showed, and had kennels. Pitties. Ever since i was 23. I am 68. As far as im concerned they are one of the best breeds out there. And they are FINALLY getting the recognition they so deserve.
They are vicious if thats the way the owner trains, or lack thereof.......
@@suebee1436 Bingo! It’s all how they’re handled. We do foster her genetics best we can, using different methods etc. with that said, the humans are the pack leaders. It’s not an alpha thing(lord knows I’m far from alpha😂)yet in our family I am the pack leader. We started training the day we picked her up and haven’t stopped, she’s 3yrs old now.
Most livestock guardian dogs are trained to never leave the goat enclosure where they know what their constant job is. By letting the goats out into a different area to graze, Herc is still trying to do his job keeping them safe outside that fence, and I'm afraid he sees Bruno as a threat to his goats. Also, I was wondering what is the future role you have for Bruno on the farm? Is he just going to be a pet or is he going to be a guard dog for the property outside the goat area? Either way he needs to feel he has his own safe zone as well as the other animals who have theirs. It's going to be a miracle if Herc and Bruno ever get along with the age gap between them and the fact they are both male. Good luck!
They will be fine. Training is key.....CONSISTENTLY and dominance in human voice doesnt hurt.
They can get along, they do not have to be best dog pals. They just need to get along and coexist peacefully. Just takes training and consistency.
So glad you were able to be with your families for Mother’s Day.❤
Bruno isn't jealousy Hercules is the disturbed one..
What you saw growing Kyle were wild strawberries good to eat.
Born and raised with doggos. Introduced youngins to the pack when the others were older many times. It would have been ideal to introduce Bruno to Herc when he was still a wee baby. Herc would have seen him as a baby, not potential competition. It can still be done now, but it is far more complicated. I'm sure I'm annoying. It's not my intention to be.
In late to the party 🥳 🎉
Those little red things if I'm not mistaken are wild strawberries.
How awesome is that 👏 😍
So glad you did stairs for Nala. She sure needs them it appears.
Nala is such a sweetie❤
You guys should had both boys pups meet as you brought Bruno home
Looks like the storms are doing a job on Nala's joints. Hopefully they will end soon and she'll feel better.
Need a stronger leash & harness with back clip better control , my 140lb lab snapped a leash like that.
Bruno did really well when you told him to stay around the goats
Right!? He's doing great! I was impressed by that too, especially when you get a puppy so young. They haven't learned much from their mom and siblings. Plus it's easy to coddle them and not put those basic commands on them. He's a smart little guy and will have a much happier life knowing what the expectations and boundaries are. Shanon is doing a fantastic job with the lil (soon-to-be big) guy!
Shannon your a wonderful daughter in law to cook for everyone like you did
Tell Herc NO and make him lay DOWN when he lunges at the pup. You keep telling him it's okay (its not), make him go where YOU want to walk not him. Please please stop being such a scared pushover. Your wife is teaching the pup obedience commands. Teach Herc. The e-collar makes better contact when you shave an area. This device is only a last resort. Teach Herc "leave it" firmly first. Over and over with toys, food and treats. I want you to succeed.
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My daughter trains dogs for a living and I have learned a lot from her despite having dogs all my adult life. I couldn't agree more with this! Just because Herc was there first, doesn't mean he gets to get away with things. He needs to be trained as Shanon is doing with Bruno. Basic obedience is necessary and only fair to Herc. 'Leave it' is one of the best commands you can teach a dog.
Also, it is incorrect to keep tension on a leash. You want the leash loose and slack. Tension teaches the dog that they are on guard, or tense. Shanon was right to have Bruno sitting with slack in the leash - that's what you want. You have to get Herc to listen to you on leash and having tension in the leash is telling the dog to be tense and they don't know why or what the 'risk' is. It confuses them. If he were to meet Bruno with a relaxed leash, he'd be more relaxed.
My mother trains dogs and this is the very best advice. I sincerely want these two to work together it could be awesome.
this applies even when he is with the goats or anything other farm animals
your voice needs to be athortive think military when told to duck you duck not lift head to see what's happening lol lollol Target 🎯
Oh my…Bruno is such a sweet boy. Adorable! ❤️😍
What a beautiful pup!!
How well do you trust the strength of the extendable leash? 🐾🇺🇸🐕🦺🦮
Good Evening Kyle & Shannon and the rest of the family. God Bless All
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Me too. We are on our way back from northern Arkansas with two babie goatlets.. so excited to start our journey ❤ 🩷💐🩷
Congratulations! We hope you enjoy them! ❤️ They are a lot of fun 😊
When Bruno gets big ,he's going to be able to take you out with that tail swing lol ❤
Letting Herc have tension on the leash while staring down the puppy is just building bad blood. The best thing to do in that situation is redirected Herc and walk past him. Also walking side by side with Herc and puppy is herd bonding.
The way you are doing it is just letting Herc win and it should have been sorted by now😊
In the end you will train how you choose to train, but whenever Herc gives you a behavior that you do not want, patting him and saying’ “It’s okay.” Is reinforcing that behavior and telling him that he did what you wanted him to do. When he gives you a behavior that you don’t want you can give him a verbal correction, followed by no physical contact. That will tell him that you are not pleased with what he did.
Ya'll have come a long way ❤ I'm glad you had a wonderful day with your parents. Shannon it's very sweet how you help with everything ❤❤
Happy mothers day Shannon. Those red things are wild strawberries Kyle
Kyle, Herc doesn't see Bruno as a threat, he is just asserting his dominance. Dogs are pack animals by nature. BUT everybody has to earn their place in the pack. Most K9 packs are female dominant, meaning the "leader" will 9 times out of 10 be a female. Once Bruno is neutered it will level out a bit. Right now I have 6, 4 females, 2 males. The girls are dominant and it is fluid they switch up often as to who is the boss. I can't remember the last time I only had 1 dog. LOL We also have 3 inside cats and everybody gets along. The biggest thing you have to remember is that you and Shannon are the Alphas and then the dogs come next. The mounting is also a dominance thing. He is just reminding them who he is.
Exactly
Love you all! Glad you are taking it nice and easy. The stairs are great!
Good evening Kyle & Shannon, Brunos legs are getting so long.
Bruno did really good when Shanon got the goats out of the guinea pen. Bruno sat right there.Hope you had a good fur &
feather Happy Mothers day💐
It was really cool you & Kyle made Mothers day dinner for mom LeAnn & your mom also. Take care & God Bless! 🙏❤🤗😊🌹✌✝️
it is fun watching your learning experiences, being an 82 yr old farm raised girl.
Love you K&S and fur babies and all the family 👪 lol ready for 30 minutes of good stuff 😘 😉 ❤
Hello Kyle and Shannon! Wishing you and everyone out there a fabulous week!❤️
Bruno is getting pretty lanky!! I can’t remember what I guessed his weight was going to be now. I think I said 90. He’s growing like a weed! ❤️ it!
More like 30-35 lbs for Bruno? Did Bruno’s mother ever get spayed or do you know?
Kyle, you have to keep the lead taunt, too. Also, you both are aware that they can break those leashes if they want to get the other one.
Kyle you did such a good job on the steps for the camper you should build a set for Shannon's office........lol
Bruno is so darned cute! When he wags his tail his whole butt wags LOL!!
I call my girl wiggle butt😂
That was a little scary. Have you tried taking Herk and Bruno on a hike together yet? Just wondering. 💕🙏🏻🐾🐾💕
Herc needs to be taught "leave it". I also would LOVE to see a harness and strong actual leashes on BOTH dogs. Two reasons (especially in Hercules' case. The lunging on the collar could damage his throat and the retractable leashes have been known to spring and break. I love you two and all of your animals. I know you are learning and I see it and am proud of you both.
HELLO KYLE AND SHANNON ❤ ANOTHER GREAT VIEDO 😊 WILD STRAWBERRIES 🍓 SHANNON WAS SO SWEET OF YOU TO COOK MOTHERS DAY FOR RALPH, LEANN AND THE FAMILY. PLUS YOUR MOM AND DAD❤. WHAT A GREAT DAUGHTER AND SON YOU BOTH ARE🥰 WISH MY SON FIND A LOVELY KIND YOUNG LADY LIKE YOU😊 BRUNO AND HERC WILL GET THERE. IT MIGHT TAKE ACTUAL CONTACT DOWN THE ROAD. JUST TAKES TIME YOU ARE BOTH DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THEM🐶🐶😊 HAVE A GREAT WEEK😊. LUV U KIDS AND ALL THE BABIES. HUGS AND PRAYERS FROM CONNIE SUE, BELLA & BUBBA👩🏻🦳🙏🐶🐶🐶🐐🐐🐐🐐🐦🐦🐦🐦🥰💜🇺🇸
Yes fantastic work with the dogs!!
Hi there Shannon and Kyle. Just a thought with Hercules lead I don’t use them as one of mine broke after pulling I had an American bulldog x with bull mastiff. So strong big dog. It was the strongest they do and after time it did break. When I needed it not too. The dogs are doing well and cannot wait for the day when Hercules and Bruno play together. Glad all good and enjoying life at Shady Acres. Take care God bless💕🙏
Great video with all the dogs and goat's. ❤❤😊👋🏻
If you had gotten Bruno, and Hurk together when Brono was so small, would Hurk have excepted him?
Kyle you have to have a firm voice and make herc realize that YOU are the alpha. I get it may be different for you to have to be dominant like that. But if you want this to work, its a must. No praises.....while the actual training is going on. Praises come after they listen to your commands. Its alot in your voice. You are the master.