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  • @KarasBookshelf
    @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    There are still so many things I missed in this video after many more listens to the album. Just going to leave some other thoughts/connections/notes here on things I didn’t mention. (will continue to update)
    Firstly, I feel like I did not give justice to Matty Healy as an individual. He is truly a complex and layered human being that is often misunderstood by watching him perform in short clips. I urge you to watch some long-form interviews he has done before you make opinions on him, as the depth of who he is is so much more than meets the eye. The Apple Music Interview with Zane Lowe is incredible. Watch it here: th-cam.com/video/d3ZHGfcENuk/w-d-xo.html.
    Down Bad - might be a hot take but I think when she says “f you if I can’t have us” I think she is saying that to both the subject of the song and to the fans who are coming after them 😳
    Maroon (from Midnights) / loml - in Maroon she states " a real f*ing legacy" in loml she states "it was legendary" - very much points to these songs being tied together and likely about Matty
    Guilty as Sin? - I could already do an entirely separate video for this song alone. Like I said, it is about fantasizing about someone who you can't or aren't allowed to be with at the moment, but also SO MUCH MORE.
    - first off, the beat is exactly the same as The Downtown Lights by the Blue Nile aka a song the 1975 has sampled on Love It If We Made It, and Matty has proclaimed is his favorite band
    Lyric callouts:
    - "i dream of cracking locks, throwing my life to the wolves" - she is dreaming about taking the chance on this person and throwing her entire life against the public's judgement.
    - "one slip and falling back into the hedge maze" - this to me means she has ALREADY gone through the hedge maze. I'm thinking about it like getting in the public's good graces, like she has already gone through the public opinion and came out the biggest celebrity of our time and so many people love her. Now, she is saying i'm going to fall BACK INTO the hedge maze because of this person and going to get my life destroyed because of it.
    - "trysts" - callout to The 1975 song "Paris" where this specific word is used
    - "I keep these longings locked IN LOWER CASE INSIDE A VAULT" - lowercase ie: folklore, evermore, and potentially other vault songs she has written about him too; notice how imgonnagetyouback and loml are in lowercase
    - "What if I roll the stone away" - what if she reveals how she truly feels about this person the public despises
    - "they're gonna crucify me anyway" - the public is going to crucify her no matter what she does
    - "if long suffering propriety is what they want from me, they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly" - if long, suffering appropriateness, politeness, being a good, kind, happy person is what the public wants from me, they don't know how i have been haunted (a word that conveys a recurring instance) by you
    - "am i allowed to cry?" probably one of the best lyrics on the album conveying the entire message of the album. is she not ALLOWED to feel emotions for over someone she has been pining about for years that is a lose lose situation? she doesn't feel like she can be sad because everyone is saying i told you so. there was LITERALLY ISSUED A STATMENT AGAINST HIM saying stay away taylor you arent allowed to associate someone who has been cancelled. is she not allowed to be sad about that?! pick your poison babe - either they can take a chance and throw their lives against the publics judgement or they adhere to what the public wants and never be together - is she not allowed to cry over that?!?!?!
    imgonnagetyouback - Somebody Else by The 1975 reference - “say you got somebody else, say I got someone too”
    Robin- actually likely about Aaron Dessner’s child!! I rescind my statements of what this song is about in my video haha. Thank you for enlightening me!
    Make note of the Spotify scenery for each song! I think those are so important in understanding each songs references.

    • @allaboutcars19
      @allaboutcars19 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I am so glad you did this because there are so many people that just don’t believe she had that deep of a connection with Matty. A lot of people think this entire CD is about either Joe or Travis and one or two are about Matty. A lot of people don’t know Matty as an artist. So this is super interesting. I did have some knowledge or inkling some of the songs were about him because he was her release from Joe and he talked to her and it was just very much of a whirlwind romance. The ones who get it get it the ones who have never had that deep of a connection or of a quick spark with a person don’t think it’s possible. I think that’s why a lot of people are like no this is about Joe because they were together for so long. Thank you again for this perspective, I learned so much. Plus, I’m sending your video to so many people so they can learn about the lore and the history of Matty and Taylor.

    • @makananigrace
      @makananigrace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      u should reread the alchemy lyrics bc the song is not about travis. it's ab returning to an ex. asking the ex to drop everyone in their life to be with u aka "clear their roster" hence the sports metaphors. the alchemy is about matty, alchemy itself is a pseudoscience that tries to turn lead to gold, so the song is ab a relationship u want to be real so bad and u want it to be gold but the fact of the matter is that it's lead. the song is saying "i haven't come around in so long" and she literally didn't even know travis yet, the song is about getting back w an ex and the ex in question is matty. "the sign on his heart says it's STILL reserved for me"

    • @christina-ms6yb
      @christina-ms6yb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@makananigrace !!

    • @melissaromero5507
      @melissaromero5507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think fortnight is divided in three parts. First Joe, writing songs with her, not talking and not seeing each other. Blue has always been representative of him, then the pinkish color which comes from lover. She tores everything down (what they wrote and had together) gets inside an asylum to get experimented on (this is directed totally to Matty) and then finally when she is on top of the booth with the storm, he reaches her in all of this mess and storm, he grabs her, he has a big ring and she has a bracelet (This is how Travis got to her in the middle of all this heartbreak and disappointed from two guys one that was just absent and cheated emotionally, other that love bombed her then ghosted because he knew how vulnerable she was (they wrote together on midnights) and that's why that clip is on The Alchemy (because it does represent Travis)

    • @NurseMagsy
      @NurseMagsy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love that you wrote a 500 page essay on TPD. I low key wish you were my friend. 🥰🥰🥰

  • @bluaurora8635
    @bluaurora8635 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Vintage tee, brand new phone, high heels on cobblestone is totally that image of Taylor wearing the 1975 black shirt walking in heels on bricks.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      absolutely!

    • @isabellanebs22
      @isabellanebs22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bluaurora8635 woah woah hold AWNN. You just blew my MIND!! 🤯🤯 yes. Does that mean the second verse - sequin smile, black lipstick, sensual politics is the Rep era? Bc she got more involved in politics at that time & dark lipstick etc? And maybe even a bit of the beginning of Lover era too.
      Do all the verses correlate to each of her past/eras albums before folklore at the time of release?

  • @nicodemusfleur
    @nicodemusfleur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    Specifically about Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus, a few thoughts I have that kill me: that the hologram, considering that he kisses fans on stage and it can be recorded, could also literally be her watching that online. Also for the "bullied you in school", I also think that first verse could be when they first met, and allude to the fact that she met Calvin Harris I think at a party where Matty was also there only a few months later -- so literally he watched it happen.
    Additionally in Verse 2, I think that could be an overview of years and years: somewhere in the early years they maybe had a moment to try, but he was having addiction issues and she couldn't handle it (too impaired by youth to know what to do, and she thought she was better off safe than starry eyed) so instead she went through years, and albums, and outfit eras, and lovers -- always trying to, but never quite successfully, outrunning this idea that she left him behind. And all those years and everything she went through in the public eye, he watched it.
    And yeah, Verse 3 and the final chorus (which also kills me because in the earlier chorus its "If you want to break my cold heart, Say 'I loved you the way that you were'" which could mean he doesn't love her as she is now, but in this chorus it is "If you want to break my cold hear, say you loved me" so now it would just hurt to know it was real) and outro feel more in the present day like "...and now, after we tried, here we are: still left wondering, still watching eachother from afar. What a legacy, to leave." D-Y-I-N-G, as she said.
    Yes I have listened to this song too many times, and yes I have cried. Really the anthem for longing.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      THIS TAKE>>>>> oh my god I love this and I feel like this makes so much sense. This song is one of the best to me and looking at it through the lens of seeing their relationship over the years and not just one moment in time takes it to a whole new level. Wow thank you for this comment!!!

  • @gabrielladidjurgeit5622
    @gabrielladidjurgeit5622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    The biggest proof that loml is about matty for me is “I thought I was better safe than starry-eyed”
    She went on theese “safe” relationships with the “Kens” Calvin, Tom, Joe… because she was scared of the starry eyes(dreams and promises). And I believe Matty Healy is the starry eyed guy because Taylor often describes eyes in her songs, Joe was also blue, Travis is crinkled eye guy… and she gives this evidence on Smallest Man
    “Gazing at me starry-eyed”
    Which is scary if we remember:
    “Do I really have to chart the constellations in his eyes?” (High infidelity)
    “You’re a bandit like me. Eyes full of stars” (Cowboy like me)
    “The stars in your eyes shine brighter in Tupelo” (Dorothea)

  • @danameyy
    @danameyy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    I sound psychotic when I try to explain all this lore to people, this whole relationship was a fever dream

  • @jasoneison656
    @jasoneison656 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I'm so glad I came across this video. As a newer Taylor fan, as in beyond the singles, I have been so frustrated watching reaction videos where Swifties actually read the prologue poem then immediate interpret every song as being about Joe. And me, only knowing limited low, over here literally yelling at my screen as they read lyrics then try to twist their preconceived idea about this being a Joe album to make them fit. The delusion is strong. So, thank you I learned a lot from you, which is what I was looking for.
    Also, I didn't know about the 1975 song "Mine," but I think it's funny that she also has one by the same title where she sings and a boy who makes a careful daughter into a rebel.
    I 100% agree about "loml."
    I think this album feels so tragic is because the songs come from such a raw place, including the less mature ones (teenage petulance) that we can experience and regret later. I've seen several creators say they could never put out sometime to vulnerable.

    • @Exhausted_Emily
      @Exhausted_Emily 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This! I only started being a fan after Midnights and didn't get into the lore till Travis so I only even knew about Matty from watching a few videos. But I immediately clocked that most of this album wasn't Joe. So I've also been very frustrated watching reactions and people questioning if Joe did drugs or had tattoos. And I'm just like 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @Breazee1
      @Breazee1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right there with you! I've heard things here and there about Taylor and her relationships never dove into the albums, lyrics, or who why whats. So I came in listened and was like OMG that's about Matty and this is about Joe. It's two different vibes honestly. Then I'd go watch reaction videos and I'm like what, and talking back to the screen like how don't you get it!!

    • @loriroers1212
      @loriroers1212 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same!! I have been a fan of Taylor's for about a year but spend alot of time listening to reactions and I feel this review is pretty spot on!!

  • @nuggetdoja871
    @nuggetdoja871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Idk if you pointed this out, but when I heard the line about "imaginary rings" in Fresh Out The Slammer, I immediately thought of "We get married in our heads" from About You.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      omg totally… ugh breaks my heart 💔

  • @Haunt1013
    @Haunt1013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    “One slip and falling back into the hedge maze” could also be a reference to “Labyrinth.”

  • @jordanashleybarney
    @jordanashleybarney 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    finally someone understands loll ive been a fan of the 1975 since 2016 and Taylor since 2009, like both their discographies completely memorized so when I listened to TTPD my jaw was on the floor the whole time

    • @ssalas7374
      @ssalas7374 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Me too. I was in shock. I don't think I moved for 3 hours that night!! I still just can't believe she did this and made it so obvious. It's incredible. And it's such an amazing double album. He really brought out the passion in her!!! Wow.

  • @J.Ray2
    @J.Ray2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Girl I’d pay money to be as enthusiastic about LITERALLY ANYTHING as you are about this album. Great work.

  • @curtin1977
    @curtin1977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    see I think there are songs that she made talking about cheating, like "Cardigan "I was a cardigan under someone else's bed (Joe neglecting her) until you put me on and told me I was your favorite."
    I think she was talking about the fact that she was interested in Matty.... like he was flirting with her while she was with Joe, he was saying all the right things
    So that was a forbidden relationship because she was with somebody else.
    When she says."it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden.".... IMO she's talking about the fact that HE liked the thrill of getting something he can't have, "you got the girl and made her cry, "
    and then once he has it, he becomes bored and he throws it aside.

  • @eschrad
    @eschrad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    “Throwing spikes down on the road” I don’t think refers to cigarettes… spikes are what cops sometimes use to stop a speeding felon in a getaway car, which majority of the time means they crash. (Hence why the use different tactics now.). Here she is elaborating on calling out his self-sabotage… he gets in his own way, causes himself to crash and burn. (She’s an “Aston Martin that he drove into a ditch… then ran and hid.”)

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you for the clarification!! I knew I was bound to mess up in my interpretations somewhere but this makes so much more sense!!

  • @karenpatterson2651
    @karenpatterson2651 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    OMG....this is the absolute best breakdown of the TTPD album. As someone who knows nothing about TS history, I absolutely loved hearing your passionate thoughts. It was heartbreaking seeing how heartbroken you were by many of TS lyrics. What a unique perspective you gave as you also have such a appreciation and knowledge of 1975 as well. I def was not a "fan" of TS until I've been deep diving into the lyrics of this album. She def is a talented poet.

  • @allisonstrunk1430
    @allisonstrunk1430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Hear me out, "your hologram stumbled into my apartment...and I just watched it" to me is her watching videos on social media of Matty kissing random fans at his shows.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      someone else said this in the comments and I can’t unsee it now. love this interpretation

  • @tiffanyreith4562
    @tiffanyreith4562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    Beautiful video! 12/10 but now I need a video all about 1975 lore 😂

    • @Popnerding
      @Popnerding 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Same. I request the same. 1975 lore.

  • @ssalas7374
    @ssalas7374 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    51:10 Yes, seriously these lyrics devastate me every time…
    ’Just say when, I’d play again, you were my best friend down at the sandlot. I felt more when we played pretend than with all the Kens, cause he took me out of my box, stole my tortured heart, left all these broken parts, told me I’m better off, but I’m not. I’m not.’
    I mean, if that doesn’t say it all. End of story 😢

  • @RebeccaClark-vd8xx
    @RebeccaClark-vd8xx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    ‘You’ll never get away from the sound of the woman who loved you. I’ll follow you down ‘till the sound of my voice will haunt you.’ Perfectly encapsulated by writing a song, or a record-breaking album even, so popular and timeless that its muse will hear every word meant for them, wherever they go, and for evermore.

  • @kylehamasaki4355
    @kylehamasaki4355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Replace the word Florida with Matty in the chorus. "Matty, one hell of a drug. Matty, can I use you up?" The premise of the song is she's giving herself over to this whirlwind romance and getting a rush out of the chaos
    The song starts off with "beating the charges" - perhaps a nod to Fresh Out the Slammer which comes immediately before, she's free and she needs to see him
    "And this city reeks of driving myself crazy" - the city is her current situation, the relationship has ended and she's bereft and reeling
    "Little did you know your home's really only a town you're just a guest in" - the home being that failed relationship, it's where she's laid down roots but it's not permanent she can only stay there as a guest
    "I need to forget, so take me to Florida" - she needs something to distract her from the demise of said relationship, so she runs to Matty
    "What a crash, what a rush, fuck me up, Florida" - it's coming upon her suddenly and out of nowhere
    "Love left me like this and I don't want to exist, so take me to Florida" - the long term relationship ended and the grief is overwhelming, she needs this distraction
    "Tell me I'm despicable, say it's unforgivable" - another nod to the reception of said relationship by fans and the media
    "Little did you know your home's really only a town you'll get arrested" - again, a reference to Fresh Out the Slammer. Comparing that previous long term relationship to prison
    "Florida, go on, fuck me up" - she knows what she's doing is crazy and could ultimately harm her but she needs to see it through

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      god bless you. oh my god this makes so much sense and i love this interpretation!!!

    • @ssalas7374
      @ssalas7374 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ohhhhh......as a Matty fan I'll never listen to that song the same way. F*ck me up Florida! 👀

    • @ChristopherMarshburn
      @ChristopherMarshburn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The lyrics of the Florence verse. The “cheating husband” is Joe. He “disappeared” and no one asks any questions here.

    • @kateFGMP
      @kateFGMP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, and the fact that the official ending news blasting during the Eras tour in Florida. Now we now she was seeing Matty since march, and she needed that was public to live her romance with Matty.

    • @mk21718
      @mk21718 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is exactly how I understand the song too! Being a guest in your own life/relationship cuts deep.

  • @woodelf27
    @woodelf27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Re: Dopamine racing through his veins:
    Matty Healy has been diagnosed with ADHD. People with ADHD have differences in dopamine levels/functioning that often lead to them seeking out experiences and relationships that give them dopamine boosts. They can also hyper fixate on people or things and then rapidly lose interest once the hyper fixation fades.

    • @kowsika9037
      @kowsika9037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@woodelf27 vaild point

    • @anitacacosta17acosta9
      @anitacacosta17acosta9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@woodelf27 this explains a lot about his writing also.
      Taylor being able to keep up with him regarding to writing...makes me wonder...

  • @breezybumbles17
    @breezybumbles17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Talking about the chorus in “Peter” and how Taylor repeats over and over “You said you were gonna grow up, then you were gonna come find me”…..does she mean that he said this to her over and over again (“Words from the mouths of babes, promises ocean deep”? Like, he kept promising her over and over again, multiple times?

  • @izattyu6863
    @izattyu6863 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    PS - so so so great that your brought up Lindsey/Stevie and Silver Springs! No one else has made this connection and TTPD is so giving Silver Springs. I wish Taylor would cover it.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      SAME oh my god that would actually ruin me. That song is one of my favorite of all time!

  • @brigglestink
    @brigglestink 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    thank you SO MUCH for this video and for being so thorough. i cannot tell you how frustrated i’ve been since this album came out. there’s so much misunderstanding and misinterpretation on tiktok. it’s gotten to the point where i can’t even interact with people on there or have a friendly debate/discussion because people are just SO WRONG and so beyond delusional. “so high school isn’t about travis”, “loml and the black dog are about joe”, and “you’re delusional to think matty and taylor had an on and off decade-long fling”. those are the opinions i keep hearing and the “deep” kitty-pool level analysis has been driving me crazy. “hOw cAn lOmL bE aBoUt mAtTy iF sHe dAtEd jOe fOr sIx yEaRs?” like do you pay attention?? do you look at context clues??? i’m so glad someone finally said it and laid it out plainly so people can stop getting it twisted lmao. i know it’s just music and it’s really not that deep, but taylor did such a good job crafting the hints and storyline on this album that it’s so aggravating to see it misunderstood consistently.

    • @mina_hark3r
      @mina_hark3r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it makes you feel any better, I feel exactly the same. Can't have 1 darn conversation about this album cause people are so stupid and bad at interpreting 😔😭

    • @isabellanebs22
      @isabellanebs22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes!! Like it’s so obvious that Swifties are in denial about this being a Matty Healy album lol. I’ve been a massive Swiftie since 2018 and pretty decent 1975 fan since around 2014. It’s obvious.

  • @nicodemusfleur
    @nicodemusfleur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Great vid! Songs to consider for your playlist are definitely "gold rush" and "ivy" -- both songs about imagining a relationship that isn't currently happening, so I immediately was suspicious of them after listening to TTPD haha. Edit to add: I think you need to rent your expertise out to about 20 different Taylor reaction/fan TH-camrs to help them understand, because it is not clicking for many haha.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      omg wow that is a compliment of the highest grade!!! Thank you!! Honestly if I could get a PhD in Taylor swift I would hahahah. LOVE the idea of gold rush and ivy. I’ve never had an idea of whom ivy was discussing but I love that theory!!

    • @nicodemusfleur
      @nicodemusfleur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@KarasBookshelf ivy also previously never made any sense to me, and now all of a sudden it completely makes sense! Like many songs from folklore, evermore, and Midnights where I was previously like "...ok, what? I guess like...she's waiting for something, or an affair? Idk but its pretty!"

    • @eschrad
      @eschrad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@KarasBookshelf I completely connect ivy to Matty now… “can’t stop you putting roots in my dreamland” and “yeah, it’s a war, it’s a goddamned blaze in the dark and you started it” all point to “guilty as sin?” When things with Joe started falling apart, her mind started pondering the what ifs and Matty invaded her thoughts. I’m not saying M is straight up the reason she and Joe broke up, but she does characterize her friendship with him and the romantic/sexual tension with him as this invasive thing… like Ivy, which gets into cracks and crevices (“you slide into inboxes and slip through bars” their messages to each other) and crawls its way up and over the tops of things and chokes other stuff out. “My house of stone (life with Joe), your ivy grows and now I’m covered in you.” In Ivy she seems to float between addressing Matty (verse 1) and addressing Joe (verse 2)… she’s fighting to be faithful to Joe in spite of their problems, but Matty is stirring something in her she can’t resist.
      The whole braid thing on evermore - and the little braids she wore leading up to TTPD - I think represented how Joe, Taylor, and Matty were all woven together for a time as Taylor was torn between being “safe” and being “starry-eyed”.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@eschrad I LOVE THIS!!! I put ivy on the playlist and after listening to gold rush too I feel similarly! Ivy really feels matty coded after this album release. It just makes so much sense and the braids idea?! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @lauriewrona83
      @lauriewrona83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@KarasBookshelf Kara you are awesome & you get it! When you know you know! I'm so happy I found you & shared you with my gang of swifties. Your passion is amazing!! You make me want to get back into READING❤️. Thank you so much!!!!

  • @breezybumbles17
    @breezybumbles17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Marooning is the intentional act of abandoning someone in an uninhabited area, such as a desert island, or more generally (usually in passive voice) to be marooned is to be in a place from which one cannot escape.

    • @isabellanebs22
      @isabellanebs22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND!!!

  • @janepyle
    @janepyle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I interpreted "it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden" as being how Matty felt, not her

    • @awsome182
      @awsome182 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same. To me it felt like "he was always gushing over her while she was in a relationship, and once he officially and publicly had her, after she faced criticism for dating him and still stood by his side, he no longer wanted her.
      There is an episode in the tv show Scrubs in which the main character is in love with his coworker who's in a relationship and he's desperately in love and so jealous of his coworker's boyfriend and then he confesses his feelings to her and convinces her to break up with her boyfriend because the two already had a history and the feelings never truly stopped. And - literally - the moment she tells him that she chose him and broke up with her boyfriend for him, he realises that he no longer wants her. It's wild and heartbreaking. And Taylor's and Matty's relationship reminded me so much of that plotline.

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@awsome182yes absolutely. But i think taylor didn’t leave joe for him though. Their relationship was already struggling and dying slowly between them as she stated in a couple of songs like “so long, London “ and “you losing me” and a little bit of “how did it end?”
      but i think genuinely taylor didn’t left joe for matty if her relationship with joe wasn’t good in first place.. don’t know that’s my humble assumption i guess

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and “i could’ve died for your sins but instead i died inside” THE POETRY !

  • @erikamejia5588
    @erikamejia5588 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You are an excellent speaker. I think your analysis was very thorough and well thought out, and your passion about your topic really shows through. I really like how you included the lyrics in the corner for us. I LOVED this video. You flawlessly and passionately took us through your interpretation. Your ability to clearly communicate your thoughts and interpretation is amazing!!

  • @AmaraFranklin
    @AmaraFranklin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I loved this video so much!! I posted my initial reactions listening to the album and I knew absolutely nothing about Matty Healy. I thought the whole album was about Joe! I was sent your video and I learned sooooo much. This was so fun to watch. I can’t wait for a book review with this much energy and passion!!! ❤

  • @breezybumbles17
    @breezybumbles17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The relationship between the two of them screams Wuthering Heights!

  • @anacfdenadai
    @anacfdenadai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    OMG i loved this video!!! This is the best TTPD analysis that I've seen online. The way you referenced every date, every song Taylor and matty wrote for each other and every single lyric is just amazing. And i loved your enthusiasm! Keep going girl

  • @afroallura3791
    @afroallura3791 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Something else! As someone who reads WAAAAY too many Matty/t75 interviews…
    “You awake with dread, pounding nails in your head” - could be a direct reference to the fact that Matty suffers from chronic migraines and nightmares, something he’s spoken about at length. Also, could be a TBOMAMB reference as he has had breakdowns in the past. And finally the “self-sabotage” throughline…ALSO something he’s spoken about quite openly. He’s scared of intimacy/commitment while also deeply craving it.

  • @KcannyTBO
    @KcannyTBO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Did I just watch the whole thing in one sitting? Yes. Did I already ABSOLUTELY love the album? Of course. Did Kara make me love it even more with all the context I was missing? 100%
    You're the best, this video is gold 💖 Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍

  • @christina-ms6yb
    @christina-ms6yb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    the way this video is 2 hours and amazing but the thing is there's even MORE lore like it goes soo deep

  • @spiritranger9202
    @spiritranger9202 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Other themes I noticed and really one of the most important is nostalgia. The childhood references; playground, swings, sandlot, playing pretend, high school, etc. The magic woman/heroine vibes throughout. She is a modern day prophetess. Obviously, you discussed the celebrity themes and toxicity of celebrity and fame. Love that line, "you wouldn't last a minute in the asylum that they raised me!" She's mad and crazed. I think she also references Britney Spears with the circus comparisons and ThanK you aImMie which references if you seek me or whatever the song was.

    • @ohifonlyx33
      @ohifonlyx33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also in I Can Do I 💔 when she says "as the crowd was chanting MORE" It reminds me of Britney's "gimme gimme MORE"

  • @diz64
    @diz64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    youre giving all too well the short film its EXCELLENT

  • @itsmiyang
    @itsmiyang 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So far this is the most extensive video reaction of this album. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @eschrad
    @eschrad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thank you, TH-cam algorithm, for bringing me here today! I had actually just before seeing this finally understood what the hell was happening in Fortnight and how it really does set the stage for the whole album. But even that epiphany (along with so many others the last week) didn’t come close to what you’ve opened my mind to in the first 30 minutes. I am not familiar with the 1975’s music and my knowledge of Matty Healy was limited to his intersection with Taylor, so I’ve been doing a deep dive on their history and refathoming songs on folklore, evermore and midnights with the new information in TTPD. I’ve been so pre-occupied with that that I hadn’t given any thought to why Stevie was also a featured player here… and I even knew about the Stevie - Lindsey drama before all this! This is the only TTPD explainer anyone should watch!
    I will say though… in Taylor’s poem, she’s not saying she went from “[playing] house to cardiac arrest”… she’s saying she went from “house [arrest] to cardiac arrest”. Referencing the idea of “the slammer” again.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Omg thank you!!! DUH how did I not see that!! Thank you!

  • @Bucketteplays
    @Bucketteplays 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thanks for the great video. I wasn't familiar with Matty Healy or The 1975 before last year, but after watching your video now I'm curious to check out some of their music.
    You mentioned near the end that some of The Anthology songs don't seem to fit thematically. but for me, the song "Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus" put it together. The lyric " Just say, 'I loved you the way that you were'". It gives me the idea that Taylor feels like Matty loved the old Taylor, not the current Taylor. You know, "The old Taylor can't come to the phone. Why? Cause she's dead." and everything with Kim and Kanye killed the old Taylor, she's no longer the girl Matty fell in love with in 2014. But she can't be that same girl anymore, and that whole situation was a big turning point for her change. So, I think that's why thanK you aIMee and Cassandra are a part of the story. And then, I Hate It Here talks about nostalgia and how it's a trick. How the past isn't as great as we remember it. Maybe Matty idolized the old Taylor and wasn't able to let the new Taylor in to replace that old idea, as in "You turned me into an idea of sorts". Maybe it's a stretch, but I like how it tied everything together for me so I wanted to share, since I think it fits with your breakdown.

    • @TheCinder24
      @TheCinder24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I also think she is bringing up Kim because of the Reputation re-record. That drama is intrical to that record. She has vault tracks that are coming out that are in her words 🔥. I think she is trying to exocise her demons in TTPD and create a catharsis that will lead her to hopefully inner peace and some happiness.

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree with your take! I think matty as much as loved the IDEA of her from the start. He also stuck in her old personality of taylor in 2014.. so she must was shocked for her to know that once they reconnected so i think this one of the major reasons of him leaving/ghosting her in the end

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree with your take! I think matty as much as loved the IDEA of her from the start. He also stuck in her old personality of taylor in 2014.. so she must was shocked for her to know that once they reconnected so i think this one of the major reasons of him leaving/ghosting her in the end

  • @izattyu6863
    @izattyu6863 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The mental gymnastics I am seeing young woman make to justify/redeem that narcissistic dime store Johnny Rotten/Jack Karouac is amazing. Here’s what it looks like if someone loved you but felt like a burden on your career: he would go out on an apology tour and rehab his reputation for you. He would gladly go along with the PR plan your top notch PR guru lays out. He realizes that the vitriol will die down because it always has. He would anything to make it work just as she was willing to do.
    Here is what you DO NOT do if you love someone: manipulate them in their most vulnerable place by love bombing and then ghosting without a word. And on top, there are other woman to whom you’ve done the same. And you did it to a person whom at the very least was a dear friend for at least ten years. Who does that? It doesn’t even matter what Taylor may or may not have done to him. If she was intolerable he should have had the balls to stand in front of her and say so.
    He’s repulsive and it has nothing to do with all the shit out there about him. All i need to see is the torture Halsey and TSwiz went through.
    He’s not even a good version of his own trope.

    • @LarissaMonteiro-vm5zo
      @LarissaMonteiro-vm5zo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Beautifully said 👏

    • @creepypapermultipack
      @creepypapermultipack 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This is the 🍵 I was looking for and you took the words out of my mouth. I don’t think we should be excusing the incredibly shitty behavior of a grown ass man who needs to grow tf up and go to therapy. I just… I guess I’m waaay over men like this being repeatedly given the benefit of the doubt after he’s proven time and time again he doesn’t deserve it and being given chance after chance after chance but they never redeem themselves. But maybe that’s just my perspective as a woman who did this with men when I was younger and reached a breaking point and the clarity to realize you can NEVER fix a man (or anyone for that matter). People only change if they want to change and if they have the courage to do the work. I don’t see a man who has ever even thought about getting help or trying to become a better person.
      Edit: “he’s not even a good version of his own trope” SENT ME. You’re 💯

    • @akcoady
      @akcoady 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely! It comes down to the concept "he's just not that in to you". Like you said, paraphrasing it, you would rehab your image (Matty) & take whatever actions needed to make it a working relationship.

    • @lem2373
      @lem2373 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@creepypapermultipack how do you know he hasn’t worked on himself ! You are just being one of those judgemental creeps TS talks about . He has been to rehab and talked about being in therapy many times to improve himself . He obviously had something else she wouldn’t have been this crazy about him … so much she has exposed so much that is never going to be unheard of… it’s out there
      !
      ,

    • @ErinCrane-iy5dg
      @ErinCrane-iy5dg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @lem The “you are better off without me” gambit is one played time and time again by men- particularly those with narcissistic tendencies ( I am not saying he is one. I don’t know him.) It’s also places the blame on the person left behind.
      He is now engaged to a woman he had dated prior to his Taylor Swift interlude.
      If he had worked on himself, he would not be cool with his friends telling the media that he finds the TTPD of it all “funny because he and Taylor were never serious.” His silence regarding his friends’ and his family’s (his mom and aunt) giving his version of events is very telling.
      Just a thought regarding rehab- is one truly a recovering addict if one consumes opioids in pill form rather than shooting up?
      He turned out to be just another faux tortured nepo baby “artist” who got what he wanted and discarded her once he got what he wanted.
      He can now return to his regularly scheduled programming- making derivative music and pretending he is an iconoclastic genius.

  • @Exhausted_Emily
    @Exhausted_Emily 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    THANK YOU!!! I feel like I've been screaming into the void about loml being about Matty. It just don't read Joe to me personally.

  • @brynn7959
    @brynn7959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She has so many references to 1989 too
    1989: please leave me stranded it’s so romantic
    TTPD: how dare you think it’s romantic leaving me safe and stranded
    1989: Just because you’re clean don’t mean you don’t miss it
    TTPD: clean but still miss the smoke

  • @rachiezo
    @rachiezo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Um I would like to submit into evidence: the 1975’s EP that had the song fallingforyou (which Taylor references with Imgonnagetyouback) was released in 2013 and is called “IV”….obviously the Roman numeral 4, but also looks like “Ivey” as in….a very obvious affair fantasy song from folklore. I think their timeline starts pre-2014!

  • @j.6133
    @j.6133 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honestly the best in-depth analysis of this whole situation I've seen. You're so brilliant!

  • @TravelGal75
    @TravelGal75 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    BEST ANALYSIS I'VE SEEN SO FAR!!!! I've sent this out to All My Swifties to watch!!! Best analysis of his lyrics with hers etc., and your passion on the subject matter is insane and so fun to watch!!! You had me hooked from the 1st 5 minutes, and now I listen to this in the background over and over whenever I do anything where I can listen to you, so I can remember this info. Great Stuff! Keep It Up...I'm ALL EARS FOR MORE!!!!

  • @karamontgomery8108
    @karamontgomery8108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus…the more I think about it and listen to it, the more it seems like it was written before her and Matty got together in 2023. She said she was writing the album for two years. Could it be that she is pondering how this relationship broke down the first time and how it haunts her - how she is in his orbit while they collaborate on Midnights - how Matty could have said something like “I loved you back then” and her heart is cold because of Joe (losing me - grey, sick) and how hearing that after pining for him all those years broke her heart. She will always wonder…until they finally get together. Then it’s the smallest man who ever lived.

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      omg! you nailed it! Damn

  • @joab757
    @joab757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Remember when Taylor said that everyone has that one person that could ruin their wedding because it’s never truely over. I think that may be Matt and I’d bet anything they have remained in touch and at some point towards the end of life w Joe, maybe during the recording of a song for midnights, something rekindled. And she went from Joe to Matty.
    Which makes perfect sense tbh!

  • @Mavis-Tanya
    @Mavis-Tanya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Kara you are you lost sister, please let's be friends. This is my first video, but it's brilliant. This has been my roman empire for the last year!!! Also things to add: 1) in Feb 2020, at the NME AWARDS Matty and her say each other with great joy and in an article the next day he said he was upset he didn't pitch an idea ... Which he explains and it's folklore. What does she do next? Immediately working on folklore 2) go back to the I can see you MV, 1975 easter eggs all over, including a purple neon box like the 1975 tour 3) high Infidelity, April 29? This is the timeline of the BFIAFL and midnights being produced by Jack, and then the next month she's doing the NYU SPEECH, a purple jacket she wore with Matty later on. 4) lavender Haze MV and all it's easter eggs to the 1975 tour, including both of them entering the TV 5) ERAS TOUR FILM SECRET SONGS - all six are Matty coded!! Our song, 11th song on debut, relating to TS 11 and how she will show which songs are theirs, maroon/DBATC = Matty, confirmed in TTPD lyrics, YAIL = 1989 era, I can see you music video is all about 1975. 6) READ THE MIDNIGHTS PROLOGUE, she's talking about how the project started with thinking about Matty

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      THE WAY IM ABOUT TO GO DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE! GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!! and yes plz let’s be friends literally i think about them every single day hahhahahah

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      looking all these up now and I am DECEASED IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!!!! why have I always felt like I can see you is about matty?!?! I’m done for. Gone. He’s been there all along

    • @christina-ms6yb
      @christina-ms6yb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SAME!!!

  • @andreiaserra9548
    @andreiaserra9548 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I haven't finished the video yet (btw i'm loving it), but regarding the tattos of post being removed in the fortnight video, here's my take: i don't think it's because maaty doesn't have any, I think it's the way she sees him (post/matty) so differently from the rest of the world, meaning that tattos are usually seen for society as a ""bad"" thing, mainly face tattos, and posty without them is, I think, because taylor doesn't see that as a bad thing, she seens him, trully sees him, the person he is, without all of the things that society thinks of him (aka she sees matty besides all the bad thing he says/does).

  • @florencehaber9847
    @florencehaber9847 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Also, Matty suffers from debilitating migraines. People get doctor prescription for migraine pills which are not addictive. It is possible he asked a friend of her friends for a "pill" because he needed it for a migraine and not because he is on drugs. Matty has no problem saying he was an heroin addict, got off and for the last 5 years he says he drinks, smokes weed, and smokes a lot of cigarettes. No hard drugs. But, I would think him being in a very public life with Taylor and no privacy and dealing with Swifties running up to her, and he in therapy for a long time learning boundaries and she hadn't, is not going to be good for an ex heroin user.

  • @Hecatedevotee2009
    @Hecatedevotee2009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the second line of the first verse of How did it end? lays out pretty clearly that At least part of this song is about Joe. It says pretty clearly that they were completely different people. He’s a hothouse flower, she’s an outdoorsman. He inside, protected, sheltered; she’s outside, rugged, tough. That’s not people who are twins. She also talks about their maladies in the first verse. They were sick, she tried to revive them, her face was gray.

  • @MadisonOwens09
    @MadisonOwens09 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ALSO who’s afraid of little old me, to me, echoes the play who’s afraid of Virginia Wolfe and the parallels are 🤌

  • @allaboutcars19
    @allaboutcars19 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Yes, I was thinking a lot of those songs were about Matty and now I’m curious about midnights folklore and evermore and if the songs on there are about Matty when we originally thought they were about something else.
    Also, I thought Robin was about Aaron Dresner‘s son because it sounds like a song that’s a parent and a child relationship. Apparently his son is named Robin.
    I know a lot of people think high school is about Travis Kelce and that’s the only song on there. That’s pure Travis Kelce and not him mixed with Matty or Joe.

    • @krishnavyas313
      @krishnavyas313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think
      the 1
      Cardigan
      Willow
      Maroon
      Labyrinth
      High infidelity
      Paris
      Glitch
      Are all about Matty.
      Bejeweled is about Joe and in that song she said, I am going out to night, If meet the band(Matty's band 1975) and if they ask, do you have a man? I can say, I don't remember.

    • @lumos5798
      @lumos5798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@krishnavyas313 heyyy I think some reputation songs are about matty too! Like don’t blame me(some lyrics parallels with 1975 oh Caroline)/dancing with our hands tied(just like even if handcuffed I will leave with you in iamgonagetyouback)/dress/end game

    • @krishnavyas313
      @krishnavyas313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lumos5798 Don't blame me and Dancing with our hands can be about Matty but dress is about Joe because she said your buzz cut my hair bleach.
      Joe had buzz cut Matty never had buzz cut.

    • @suitedestinationstravel1377
      @suitedestinationstravel1377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lumos5798 I think Ready for it is about him too. “Knew I was a robber first time that he saw me” 1975 has Robbers and I think he dedicated that to her once or called her that I can’t remember. Also how many girls has Joe loved and left haunted? Zero lol

  • @whatwendylikes
    @whatwendylikes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for this valuable education. I didn't know anything about The 1975 or Matty Healy before the album came out. I really appreciate you helping us to understand what the background story of the album may be.

  • @mina_hark3r
    @mina_hark3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here I am, back again, to listen to this video for the 5th time. This video is my safe space, my Roman Empire, my happy place :))

    • @mina_hark3r
      @mina_hark3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You thought I was kidding but nope, back again :)))

  • @777jamiejames
    @777jamiejames 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure if anyone told you, I read as many comments as I could... the cover of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album is Stevie with Mick Fleetwood, the drummer and co-founder of Fleetwood mac. Which was a band in Britain, well before stevie and Lindsey joined. They actually put out an album together as Buckingham Nicks before they joined the band.

  • @ElizeBelieves
    @ElizeBelieves 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Halsey’s poem gives such shadow daddy vibes about him. I can understand from that standpoint. He is the dark tortured bad boy that we all want. On our pages. In our books. But not in our reality.

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lmao exactly. Well said!

  • @KatieColson
    @KatieColson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow girl you did the WORK! I watched every single second of this video. In bursts throughout my work day. And I am blown away at how in depth you went and all the evidence you showed. You did such a fantastic job

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      omg thank you Katie!!! I know it’s so different from booktube stuff but I HAD to make this even if it was just for me haha

    • @KatieColson
      @KatieColson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KarasBookshelf of course! And I think a lot of people will flock to this video. I think it’s gonna do very well

  • @kristinaeramos
    @kristinaeramos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for putting your perception of this album on here. Everything I was looking for is in your video. A deeper understanding of the album. Not only did u hit it right on, without the negativity I have experienced from other videos who claim they are swifties but talk trash about her art; you also have the facts to back up your claims. I was looking for meaning/understanding to the lyrics and you have made this album mean so much more to me.
    It was a great album before your video. Knowing what I know now this album is fantastic. Thank you!!
    What I would like to see is how you would edit track order to give cohesiveness to the album.

  • @inezyu4697
    @inezyu4697 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I thought she was saying “it was house [arrest] and then cardiac arrest”- like jail being at home with Joe and then dying when her heart exploded with Matty! Love your analysis and explanation though, I don’t know much about the 1975 so this is super interesting!

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! I totally think it is house arrest and then cardiac arrest. I read it wrong!!! Sry!!

    • @AliciaWenberg
      @AliciaWenberg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I heard an analysis that jail refers to her relationship with Joe and the hospital refers to her relationship with Matty. Listening to the album with that in mind it does seem to fit and the poem confirms that

  • @lexie7753
    @lexie7753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yes yes yes yes YES YES!!! Finally! Istg I've been slowly losing my mind since last year, watching most people ignore or completely miss what's right in front of them. Once the "I love you" videos happened I fell down a rabbit hole of songs that could be about each other and I realised that they've been in love for almost a decade. Even though they may have loved other people, the "what if" they had has always been stronger and an incredible creative force. Some of their best songs were about each other and that's before TTPD.
    As for the album, with the exception of So long London, So Highschool and 2-3 more tracks, it's all about Matty Healy. It's been driving me insane to see ppl completely miss it. They're like "your suit and tie" hmmmm, how weird, what could that mean in this song that is obviously about Joe Alwyn cause who would write such a song about a 2 week situationship. Duuuuude, they've been in love for a decade, it says in black and white "rekindled flames", Matty's aesthetic is literally suit and tie and ppl still deny it. Every single song has references to Matty or the 1975.
    Ok I could rant about this for actual hours, hence why this video is so satisfying cause I literally feel like you're inside my head.
    I hope you don't get too much hate if the swifties that did what they did last year find this video. Imma sub cause I'm also a maniac about books.

  • @tswizzleb
    @tswizzleb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Frequent Book Reader who’s just getting back into music, this album is so freaking good and comforting 🥰

  • @sirendipitybritt
    @sirendipitybritt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Kara, I listened to your playlist. You did a phenomenal job. Also, I’ve watched this video of yours three times. Thank you and you’re welcome ♥️

  • @magyar5615
    @magyar5615 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So happy I found your channel, and as a fan and watching a few other interpretations your deep dive into all of this is the best. Good to know I was not the only one crying knowing the background of these two, and or just applying the lyrics to any star-crossed love story. Excellent work and certainly can tell you put 1000% into this video!!!

  • @stephaniebates8495
    @stephaniebates8495 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your passion for this album because I feel the same way and thought I was crazy how obsessed I am with this album but now I see I’m not alone

  • @TheSunsetPearl
    @TheSunsetPearl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One note on Florida, from what my research has told me, the breakup with Joe happened while the eras tour was in Arlington, Texas. I’ve even seen some people pose theories on which individual shows it happened between, based on the set list for each show. The next stop on the tour was in Tampa, Florida, and I’m guessing the travel to there from Arlington was emotional for her, to say the least.
    Also, Florence absolutely ATE on this song, which I’ve heard is already being used by the state of Florida in commercials, as well as countless instagram captions by vacationers to the state.

    • @Hanansax
      @Hanansax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      didn’t they say that their break up happened was in February? But the news came out in march in time she about to do the show in florida - i thought the song as a reference about the news came out in in public?

  • @pam8639
    @pam8639 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't wake up today thinking I needed a 2 hour video talking about TTPD but girl, I love listening to you talk about it! Taylor is definitely my kinda petty 😂

  • @queenofjensylvania
    @queenofjensylvania 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you! I've been saying the same things about loml and Peter. Your 1975 knowledge just confirmed that more, I don't know them at all.
    Robin I think is not about Matty, the whole lyrics gives child vibes and Aaron Dessner's son is named Robin, he's cowritten this song as well.
    And The Manuscript seems (to me) more like a recap of all her old relationships, at least several of them. She says at the end that the manuscript is the last souvenir from her trip to their shores (plural), revisiting those memories.

    • @KarasBookshelf
      @KarasBookshelf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!!! As I said, the anthology i haven't spent as much time with apart from a few songs and I was totally wrong about Robin! I think that take on The Manuscript feels so right. The pleural "their" says it all. thank you for this comment!!!

    • @queenofjensylvania
      @queenofjensylvania 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@KarasBookshelf31 songs is a lot, I think we will be busy decoding this album for month, if not years. 😂 I also clocked that she mentions the starry eyes/eyed in different songs that we believe are Matty coded. "Was any of it true? Gazing at me starry eyed" (the smallest man...) "I thought I was better safe than starry eyed" (loml, I think) and I think there was a third one, I can't remember right now. I just noticed this specifically after hearing the entire album several times.

  • @xIoveSICK
    @xIoveSICK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    best analysis video i've seen on this album :)

  • @finleypawrker8551
    @finleypawrker8551 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In Chloe et al, the bully is Calvin Harris, not Travis. At the 2015 BRITs awards matty, Taylor and Calvin (where they met) were all there. She mentions this night in question…? (also about Matty) when she says “Did you realize out of time? She was on your mind with some meathead guy. That you saw that night”. Calvin is like 6’5 and kinda looks like he would bully Matty too.

    • @sonnymc4677
      @sonnymc4677 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, it’s about Calvin. The song was probably written before she stated dating Travis.

  • @ima.ekenes
    @ima.ekenes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wow, this was impressive! I think it's really telling that a booktyouber has a more interesting interpretation of this album than most music reactors. You need literacy to "get" TPPD!! Hope you get your PhD one day!😊
    Just one thought on
    "What if I roll the stone away?
    They're gonna crucify me anyway"
    She has often used resurrection as a metaphor for coming back after being publicly cancelled. It sounds like she was writing many of these songs (especially Guilty as Sin) even before the situation got puplic, and she knew she would then be "getting crusified". So what if she just "rolled away the stone"(= image of Jesus' resurrection) in advance, as in writing revieling songs, knowing they would be her comeback.

    • @ima.ekenes
      @ima.ekenes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also this is the first time I’ve watched your channel, I’ll check it out for sure! Hoping you don’t have to be AS careful about the potential crazy backlash for having an opinion in every episode… 😂

  • @sydmarch8420
    @sydmarch8420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got almost as many chills from this video as I do from the actual album. 😭 All your thoughts are exactly my thoughts and you articulate them so well.

  • @nancylk2946
    @nancylk2946 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One correction (from a 63 year old who played the Rumors LP 24/7 in her teens) The cover is Stevie with Mick Fleetwood, not the GORGEOUS Lindsey Buckingham. Back in the day we all knew how toxic these two were; the break ups and fights then theyre togethef....lucky for them, bad for the fans, there was no social media documenting them--- just got scoops through magizines i.e Rolling Stone, People....

  • @hammersteve2746
    @hammersteve2746 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thank you for such a wonderful video. I've been a The 1975 fan from the day dot.....I think one of the saddest aspects of this story is how Matty is perceived. He has always fought for so many minority groups. Yes, he is an idiot sometimes......much of the stage stuff is his act, so remember that. He has always said he is playing a roll........And just think to yourself, if Taylor is such a wonderful caring person.....then she obviously sees something wonderful in Matty too. Because basically he is a really nice guy. That is the real him.........I believe "Oh Caroline" is about Taylor Swift. Watch the video,,,,,,,Finally, I believe they are the love of each others life......and the oh Caroline video is a wonderful memory for the old Matty. ........Loved the costume changes..😄.......From a real London Boy x

  • @SimonkaShow
    @SimonkaShow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11:02 please look into what the journalist actually defended him because tabloid twisted what he said in original interview and the wrote a beautiful open letter about it

  • @alicex4570
    @alicex4570 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I loved this video and I think Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus is the most underrated song in this album. So beautiful.

  • @HeyDyann
    @HeyDyann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You deserve my like. I really like how you explain. I literally watched the whole 2hours. I am too felt it.

  • @thekarisiri
    @thekarisiri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You really helped me appreciate Taylor as a poet writer. Thank you for that.

  • @kobimitchell271
    @kobimitchell271 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2 things about the TS "in summation" poem... 1) I'm pretty sure the "lovers spend years denying what's ill fated" through "and in one conversation I tore down the whole sky" is talking about Joe. 2) I think "it was house and then cardiac arrest" is house arrest with Joe, and then cardiac arrest was from Matty.

  • @joab757
    @joab757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Remember when she said that everyone has that one person who would ruin their wedding because it’s never truely over!

  • @GinessahSnow
    @GinessahSnow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kara!!! Girlfriend we now need a decode part 2✌️of this video now that the new TTPD set list on the Eras Tour has been unveiled
    Would love your lore knowledge insights!!!

  • @sarah-lh5bo
    @sarah-lh5bo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Firstly, it was so nice to see TTPD decoded from someone who has some understanding of the 1975 and therefore has deeper understanding of the album as a whole!!
    I’ve seen your comment reiterating and correcting/explaining your thoughts of Matty as a person which I think was necessary.
    I’ve been a 1975 fan since 2014 and what half the world miss about Matty and understanding him as a person is how he plays a part. The whole Being Funny era and At their very best stage presence was him playing a role - him stumbling around on stage wasn’t him actually drunk, halfway through the show he explains this, the whole thing/era was meant to be like a commentary on right wing men - satire etc, reflected in the album with songs like ‘Looking for somebody to love’. But as we know, most people on the internet have 0 critical thinking skills and took everything literally 😂.
    As you said, he’s a complex person with a brilliant mind, and people need to understand that almost EVERYTHING you see about him spread around online and reasons he was cancelled are completely taken out of context - the music speaks the actual truth regarding his political and societal views.
    The speak up now thing was the most chronically online, parasocial thing I have ever seen and still makes me cringe to this day - to think you know this person you’ve never met enough to say another person you’ve never met shouldn’t date them because they are all these things you’ve created a narrative about in your own head is just … YIKES. So embarrassing 😳 and I’ve never been happier about her doing anything than when I heard ‘But daddy I love him’ for the first time. Iconic. Sanctimonius judgemental creeps really sums it up.😂
    Just watch a few of his sit down interviews and it’s obvious - as you said - the Zane Lowe interview is a great one.
    As a fan of them both - they made SO much sense as a couple. It’s a shame things turned out the way they did. What a chaotic moment in time!

  • @paulastpage
    @paulastpage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The passion and effort are very much appreciated!!❤

  • @sarahstarbell
    @sarahstarbell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Already commented once but I'm commenting again to say I loved this video! I'm much more a fan of the 1975 than Taylor but I love them both and this whole album and everything is so heartbreaking. Who knows if they would've ended up together if her fans hadn't come so hard for him (I kinda doubt it because I love him but I don't think he'll ever "grow up" and settle down)...Also, loml is the saddest song I've heard in such a long time and I agree that it's about both but the idea that it's partly about matty makes me just wanna cry.

  • @Fleeting_moments.09x
    @Fleeting_moments.09x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d be interested in someone (or everyone lol) relistening to Folklore, Evermore, and Midnights and making videos analyzing lyrics and themes from those albums with Matty Healy in mind!

  • @curtin1977
    @curtin1977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really worry about the new relationship bc she was SO devastated then Travis came along and he's a rebound relationship
    I do wish she'd take time alone for like 2yrs or longer so she stops repeating the same thing over and over w/guys who "change their mind or ghost her" she's got to figure out why she keeps being drawn to those type of men
    I just worried that she will get married and then it will happen in the marriage when she least expects it....that's what happened to me, so I've been there done that.
    I totally understand what she's been through, my husband lost interest in me after I got pregnant & checked out for YRS. He was gleeful when I asked for a divorce.
    Then, my "Twin flame" (what psychics/Tarot card readings said)
    came along and helped me get out of that "prison"....but then he changed his mind too and left, so I GET IT....I totally relate to almost this entire album

    • @ayomidedareabel5525
      @ayomidedareabel5525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn't say he was a rebound because travis said it himself that it was her mutual friends that convinced her to date him meaning she was planning to be single and didn't want to give him a chance. I guess she changed her mind after seeing videos of him on his podcast and realized they have similar values. Plus you don't look at a rebound like the way she looks at him with so much pride and love in her eyes lol.
      I think especially with being with travis she has had a lot of introspection especially with how those men treated her. Her summation poem is a great example of that. That you can be private in a relationship and your partner doesn't have to keep you like a secret or act like he resents you. That you don't have to pretend to be something you aren't to be with this person. That your relationship can still be exciting and fun without it being tumultuous and crazy. That her fame isn't that much of a stumbling block to have a relationship she was just with men who weren't up for the task lol. From "He never scratched the surface of me, none of them did" to "no one has ever had me like you"
      My biggest fear when it comes to their relationship isn't the fact that she misses matty because I honestly doubt that lol. Travis is a way better man as he's like a perfect balance of the bad boy energy and the stable partner energy. I think it's the fact that she may wake up one day and realize she doesn't really want marriage and kids down the line when they are in so deep. That she just wanted to prove to society that she can keep a man and isn't an unstable single woman who is boy crazy they keep painting her out to be. You can here that sentiment in how did it end.

  • @arieldickinson9865
    @arieldickinson9865 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Duuuuude!! This is so good. I didn’t know I needed an expert in 1975 and TS but it’s everything I never knew I needed. Thank you!!

  • @niklaus009
    @niklaus009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was the best analysis I’ve seen so far! Wow!
    Could you please do a video of more songs in her discography that are about Matty?

  • @bad-girlbex3791
    @bad-girlbex3791 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm only halfway through this video, but I just wanted to compliment you on how brilliantly batshit your wildly, bubbling over with excitement personality is. Thank you for providing all the links and referencing so many external sources, because I wasn't a Swiftie when I got the entire TTPD album (the entire 31 track version) but I ended up falling in love with the entire thing. She comes across as so vulnerable, honest, painful, dramatic, and interspersed with sell-deprecating humour, and revenge-esque killer shots at a bunch of people who deserve her ire. And I've been watching content by some cool Swifties (like the @theSwiftolgist who is legitimately hilarious and full of information. Thank you for adding more food for thought, I'm looking forward to checking out the treasure trove of stuff for me to get stuck into. Thank you! Bex x
    P.S. You're also incredibly pretty by the way. (Don't worry, I'm not hitting on you. Just pointing out that you're very attractive! )

  • @guacimaragonzalezramos3391
    @guacimaragonzalezramos3391 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wonderful video, thank you. A humble request, I would love to see a video of Taylor's past songs for Maty, now that time has given us some perspective❤❤

    • @angiem6383
      @angiem6383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn't it around one of Taylor's Florida shows that the public found out that Matty & Taylor were dating ? Or was it @ one of the Tex as s shows?

  • @joab757
    @joab757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Imagine being Matty Healy and having 2 artists fall for you and write music about you. And a poem.
    Hell, the biggest artist in the world literally themed her entire album after you, your tortured nature and your typewriter.

    • @ssalas7374
      @ssalas7374 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Iconic really. Love him, I get it.

  • @emmalipsky6602
    @emmalipsky6602 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stop bc young me was obsessed with colors and now adult me is obsessed with TTPD

  • @winterfire89
    @winterfire89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is such a good breakdown and i also want to really stress that what Taylor describes in her relationship with Matty as well as how Halsey describes it is classic narcissistic emotional abuse so if someone is really laying it on thick and promising you the world and then drops you run. Do not walk. Run.

    • @Li_Tobler
      @Li_Tobler 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯💯💯💯
      Not to diagnose anyone at a distance but that's exactly what it sounded like to me too. Those bastards are extremely charming too, it's like they're able to hack and decode your SOUL to extract exactly everything that you want to see, feel and hear. Only to use it for their sick mind games and gratification. Truly scary

  • @kendall1144
    @kendall1144 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the fortnight video also references the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind with the "forget him" pill, the electromagnetic headpiece (?),l and that scene you mentioned where they are lying down as a reference to matty's scene with his own body from his concert is a near direct copy from that movie, i think its more referencing that!

  • @honeyhamilton3463
    @honeyhamilton3463 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you so much for spending the time and energy to put this together and share with us!

  • @ssalas7374
    @ssalas7374 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    40:00 Thank you for discussing the lyrics of Fortnight! Everyone focuses on the video and they totally miss the lyrics. I definitely noticed the lyrics that you mentioned. And after repeat listens, I feel like maybe this was her point of view last fall. She and M were both living in New York and he had a new girlfriend. They were being photographed a lot by people and paparazzi, and she could see everything he was doing with a new girlfriend through social media. I think those are the references, being good neighbors, and ‘your “wife”waters flowers, I want to kill her.’ ‘My husband’s cheating I want to kill him. They weren’t literally married, but I think that’s kind of how she felt at the time. It was probably driving her insane. She started dating T around that time too. I’m curious what you think? (Just to be clear, I am not suggesting she means literally kill, just that she was really upset)

  • @CathDaddy
    @CathDaddy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who just discovered your channel with this video…this is everything I needed, thank you 😂…also. Not far into the video at all. But the Halsey poem, dude. Taylor uses references from that constantly? Paradox, so much older and wiser, etc. that can’t be coincidence.

  • @Hayleynwong
    @Hayleynwong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was amazing and the exact kind of breakdown of the themes, lyrics, 1975 connections I’ve been neeeeeeding. But most of all, your enthusiasm and excitement is so infectious and very fun to watch. 😊
    I’m only a casual 1975 listener and only recently more interested in Taylor Swift since last year (though I’ve always loved Style since it came out 😅) but now I’m fully swiftie-pilled haha so this was very interesting to watch. Thank you for all your hard work. It got me thinking, and my knowledge is very limited, but even with my casual listening, I caught something that made my ears perk up.
    So in “The Prophecy”, Taylor sings about not wanting money, just someone who wants her company…. And my introduction to the 1975 was “Somebody Else” and there’s a part of that song I’m sure you’re aware, but it says “get someone you love? Get someone you need?” And his response in that song is f*ck that get money, I can’t give you my soul… or something along those lines. Anywho, I haven’t heard anyone mention that and I just had to put it out there if anyone else noticed (I’m sure it’s not a very deep observation but still 😅).
    Great video!

  • @preeeeetiiiii
    @preeeeetiiiii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I haven't seen anyone else literally reading my mind saying it aloud 😂😢 thank you need a 1975 lore
    I'm also looking forward to next 1975 project 😂❤

  • @hammersteve2746
    @hammersteve2746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Typewriters and forts...only one man in the whole wide world likes these two things together.....and Taylor references both of these obscure items. Its so bloody obvious that much of this is about Matty Healy.

  • @ΑναστασίαΣωφρονά-σ5ω
    @ΑναστασίαΣωφρονά-σ5ω 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought I was the only one who noticed the similarity in the lyrics “you’re making an aesthetic out of not doing well” and “I was a functioning alcoholic till nobody noticed my new aesthetic”😭 NOBODY was talking about it IT WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY

  • @mikitamlin2253
    @mikitamlin2253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, I like to listen back to back to Looking For Somebody (To Love) and I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) - about a dangerous man who was running around with a pistol/gun. Again, no other song's title is styled like that in either TTPD or Being Funny.