to me bottoms is a good modernized mean girls i genuinely think it is SO funny and such a good high school satire. it’s so satirical that it’s outlandish ofc but i think it works so well
watching this movie from the perspective of a girl was really jarring in terms of period typical homophobia, girls are pretty subtle with their homophobia but they always portray it as if it's some sort of disease (especially with lesbians), so hearing regina go "i can't have a lesbian at my pool party" really sent me back 😭
Yeah I feel like homophobia from women is just as pervasive as it is from guys, but it’s maybe just less violent and aggressive than it is from dudes towards gay guys. Like as a lesbian I’ve never been attacked or shit like that but I’ve definitely felt like I’m viewed as some creepy diseased predator. I kinda forgot about all that when I initially watched this movie lol
riley HAS to be talking about the "clique" books, not "click" shown at 1:14. as a girlie who read the clique series during her most impressionable years... massie block's influence still holds power over me to this day.
when i watched this as a teenage lesbian the thing that stood out to me the most is just how offended Janice is about getting called gay while her only friend IS gay. like it just felt like some weird unexplored homophobia for her to think the worst thing in the entire world is to have people think you're a lesbian. i hope damien met some other gay people in college and realized how shitty that was
Maybe this is projection on my part, but I'm also a lesbian and I always interpreted Janice as a closeted lesbian with internalized homophobia. Janice cares about what other people think of her way more than she lets on, and I don't think she would want to unpack her feelings about her sexuality and be known as a lesbian when people are already treating her so poorly based on rumors alone.
I always just read that as her being offended at her identity being misidentified. I think we have more language for that now, like people get offended being misgendered but it doesn't mean they don't like people of that gender or think its a bad gender or something.
@@zackswitch9656there's a huge difference between when someone is like "I don't have a problem with it but I'm not" and acting like being gay would be weird
i am so upset that Riley didn't clarify what musical he was in at this girls' school and also didn't say what was written about him in the e-burn book?? like wtf way to leave us hanging Jesus Christ I will never sleep until I know
@@RafaelSouza-pr4gs this is an excellent idea however i checked a few weeks ago and their cameo has been closed for months :( probably something that could get answered at a livemind or when they're on somebodys podcast though
The way this movie had a chokehold on every 13 to 16 year old at my high school (oh god that was over 10 years ago.) October 3rd was a national holiday. In 2012 when it fell on a Wednesday everyone was wearing pink.
Wow, I did not imagine these sweaty hooligans from 6 years ago would be so versed in cinematic knowledge and artistic perspective! However, Graydon has STILL not let me go from the basement of the Gallatin School of Individualized study, where he made a lair so he could have “Peeping Peep” sessions where he would layer himself in marshmallows and sugar and spy on Eden at the NYU TIsch School for the Arts nextdoor! Anyways, love y’all!
Rating mean girls by Charli xcx (which JUST came out btw) based on how it’s aged specifically because Charli is “getting up there in years” feels a little disrespectful guys 😒
Theater kid here, my high school recently did mean girls and for the record i think the actual musical is awesome. Granted, I’d have fun regardless of the production, but still i think it maintains a lot of the movies charm.
to be fair i don't think lindsay lohan did a poor job, i just don't think the character was written very well. maybe it was because the narration carried the redemption arc, or maybe it's because the movie was pretty short, but the end of her character arc was extremely rushed which made it rush the resolution. but its a comedy, who gives a fuck
I had a huge crush on her at the time and loved her in this. I think a big part of her acting in it is a lot of it is reactions to the other characters, everyone else is this over the top caricature but she's not supposed to be. So yeah, she wasn't even written to be the lead in her own movie. Also on the redemption arc part, the movie sort of says it but I don't feel it was ever acknowledged how much every other character was wronging her. She was the new kid, didn't understand any of this and 2 competing groups of people purely used her as part of their pre-existing fight. The only person she really harmed in a way that wasn't a consequence of their own actions was the teacher. So I think the idea of the school forgiving her or something, she didn't do anything to 99.9% of those people, they just thought she pushed Regina and she didn't even do that.
This was such a good movie choice for your series! Some suggestions would be Friday (1995), Sister Act (1992), and But I'm a Cheerleader (1999). Love y'all!
I want so badly for you to do an episode with Scott Cramer. He makes music and could hack it on the main channel but, personally, I want a Midwest themed tier list or bracket. Maybe "famous midwesterners" or "Midwestern tourist destinations"? Riley and Scott could circlejerk about their graphic design and advertising degrees, respectively. All I ask in return for these ideas is for Dignan to stop trying to crossbreed egyptian salamanders with cicadas in my root cellar.
How would YOU feel if Tina Fey, Mark Waters, Lorne Michaels, Lindsay Lohan, Rachel McAdams, Dignan, Tim Meadows, Ana Gasteyer, Daniel Frantzese, Amy Poehler and some other people sat down and discussed how YOU aged? We really need more empathy in the internet space. ✅ 🤝🥰
oh man Clueless was so good, one of my fondest memories is watching it thinking it was a "girl movie" but it was so funny that I showed my older brother and he thought it was funny too. honestly I haven't seen it in a while but I think all things considered it's likely aged pretty well compared to some others of the time.
Re: real life burn book. There was a similar incident at my old school that was so bad multiple people got suspended iirc 💀teenagers really take hating to a whole different level
we also gotta get white chicks on here. very very guilty pleasure of mine but it’s so fucking funny. i need my white guys to tell me (and a guest star possibly) if i can like the movie
why dont you post all of your fans comments in the intro of the video? Like no hate at all but it would be dope to see how many people were asking about what movies you should review. I've seen it before, sure, but it pays homage to your followers and makes them feel seen. Not being rude but I always think a lil 1-4 second collage of all the followers who asked is absolutely a cool idea. Love!!!
I honestly disagree with Riley’s last statements. This is still one of my favourite comedies of all time, I rewatch it every year and love it even more each time
maybe it's just bc i grew up in a small town in the south but the homophobia towards girls was still SO rampant when i was in school, i got ostracized when they found out i liked girls in highschool LMAOO (for context i graduated last year)
That is my daughter’s favorite movie as a teen. It is also my son’s favorite movie as a preteen. 😂 My son even made his own business cards because of Kevin G. 😂 He was a Video Game Pro Player. He put a disclaimer, can pass most levels. 😂
Probably my favourite comedy of all time, I think one really interesting thing with this sort of look is you're comparing how people talked or acted in the movie and saying we probably wouldn't portray it that way now or use those harsh words and stuff. And I sort of agree, I think if someone made this now they wouldn't use those words or those specific stereotypes...in the movie. But I think it's interesting that we just couldn't really make this now, because kids 100% still do that, still behave exactly like this, may not use these exact words, but just use new ones you'll also hate in 20 years... they won't call each other retarded, they'll call each other autistic.. and they'll certainly still call each other sluts and whores and stuff. So I find it feels odd to realize that, it's not that kids don't do this now, we'd simply censor it. So what's aged isn't the underlying thing, but our willingness to honestly depict the underlying thing. I haven't seen the musical version yet either, but I assume they've sanitized a lot of the dialogue. I think though a lot of today's sensibility is like "you can't say a bad thing" but I think it should be more "You can say a bad thing because that's how we're showing the character is bad" like the good characters shouldn't say the bad thing but if you're trying to show a character is evil, why wouldn't that character use bad words? It kind of reminds me of some article about Thanos or the Joker showing violence against women... like yeah, he wants to kill all living things, he's bad. In another part I think one cool thing the movie did was while it focused on the Plastics and them being popular, there was a whole section towards the end where it showed like everyone has their own click and each of those clicks had these esoteric specific issues only they cared about but were really important to them, like the line "Don't drag me into this, I'm pitching tomorrow" I really liked that were it showed despite focusing on these like 5 or 6 people, all these other groups had their own dramas and things that made you important in those groups. Also on the 'Cool Asians' thing, while that's sort of something the likely wouldn't say now too, that was like the first time that concept was depicted or said like that, the 'nerdy Asian' stereotype was always around, but that's the first explicit callout I'd ever heard that the 'cool Asian' crowd even existed and I did think there was a little subtle insight there that the nerdy math guy and the cool girl were brother and sister, there was a tiny bit of depth there.
28:09 i definitely think theres a few different ways you can look at that line, and while the way riley explained it is a very understandable way, i think you could also look at it as like “girls supporting girls” and being nice to each other and having each others backs and stuff? like if all women do is insult and bash each other, it makes way for it to be a more normal thing and allow men to do it too. not saying thats the only way you can look at it, i just definitely think that over time, different lines and scenes can definitely mean new things or open to new meanings
i was watching it with my partner and their family a few nights ago, and their white dad parroted that line, and we all turned to him, and he was like “what?! she said it!”💀
In my opinion, the meanest thing a girl could ever do is rock it her way *without* a moneyspread. 😢
Girls with no motion is my biggest ick
Literally
💰💰💰💵💵 moneyspread!!!! 🤑🤑💸💸💸 🤪🤪🤪 ‼️BLEHHHHHH‼️ 😝😝😝😝 🤘🤘🤘🤘rockin it mah way 😎😎😎😎
Dignan just opened his mouth, someone go hand him a Grammy right now
I’m boutta put my dig in it right now
Drake a certified mean girl
man, no one cares about the grammys no more :/
You lied about dignan
I’m boutta put my diggy in it right now
just because me and my friends insulted you guys so much doesnt mean you guys can review how we aged?
22 year old trans streamer still insults weird men the old-fashioned way
m m m money spread 💸💸💸🤑🤑🤑🤑💰💰💰💰
rockin it my wayyyyyyy 🤘🤘🤘🤘🔥🔥🔥🔥⚡⚡⚡⚡
cancel them Ro this is completely unacceptable 😡
There was 2004 of you guys making fun of them?
the joke of regina misunderstanding lebanese as lesbian belongs in a museum
isn’t it a golden girls reference
It had such a good payoff
Riley just trying to make the Renée Rapp joke work has real "fetch" energy.
to me bottoms is a good modernized mean girls i genuinely think it is SO funny and such a good high school satire. it’s so satirical that it’s outlandish ofc but i think it works so well
YES
I will for sure check it out 🤘
“I did musical in high school”
I love how you phrase this like “I did track and field” or something
watching this movie from the perspective of a girl was really jarring in terms of period typical homophobia, girls are pretty subtle with their homophobia but they always portray it as if it's some sort of disease (especially with lesbians), so hearing regina go "i can't have a lesbian at my pool party" really sent me back 😭
Yeah I feel like homophobia from women is just as pervasive as it is from guys, but it’s maybe just less violent and aggressive than it is from dudes towards gay guys. Like as a lesbian I’ve never been attacked or shit like that but I’ve definitely felt like I’m viewed as some creepy diseased predator. I kinda forgot about all that when I initially watched this movie lol
Seriously guys, we need the 21 vs 22 jumpstreet video. I know it’s not the same as this series but still we gotta have it
my name jeff
theyre so good. and i know i cant decide which i like best bc my favorite is just the one i watched last.
I like how graydon described a list of movies between 2001-2006 and named two movies that weren't in that time period
riley HAS to be talking about the "clique" books, not "click" shown at 1:14. as a girlie who read the clique series during her most impressionable years... massie block's influence still holds power over me to this day.
yes it was such an cute little mistake 😭
1:08 Riley definitely meant the Clique books that were huge in the mid/late 00s. There's a movie based on the series too
I thought the same thing but thought maybe I was wrong on the spelling 😂
i thought the same thing lol because i loveddddd those books as a kid
Nick DiRamio has a really funny video breaking down the movie, highly recommend
The male reboot of this movie would just be called “Homophobes”
THIS
Homophobic racists
Little late guys, didn't Charli xcx release this like a month ago
BRAT best & worst WHEN???
Had to see how it aged
Please let it slaaay
when i watched this as a teenage lesbian the thing that stood out to me the most is just how offended Janice is about getting called gay while her only friend IS gay. like it just felt like some weird unexplored homophobia for her to think the worst thing in the entire world is to have people think you're a lesbian. i hope damien met some other gay people in college and realized how shitty that was
Maybe she was offended cause she was accused of being something she wasnt, and because of that she lost her friend.
Maybe this is projection on my part, but I'm also a lesbian and I always interpreted Janice as a closeted lesbian with internalized homophobia. Janice cares about what other people think of her way more than she lets on, and I don't think she would want to unpack her feelings about her sexuality and be known as a lesbian when people are already treating her so poorly based on rumors alone.
I always just read that as her being offended at her identity being misidentified. I think we have more language for that now, like people get offended being misgendered but it doesn't mean they don't like people of that gender or think its a bad gender or something.
I think she probably was gay and didn't take that part of her being made public before she could explore it very well
@@zackswitch9656there's a huge difference between when someone is like "I don't have a problem with it but I'm not" and acting like being gay would be weird
Riley = Regina
Graydon = Gretchen
Dignan = the bus that runs over Regina
they called me a MEME girl when i invented the bottle flipping meme in 2016! I hate myself and i hate hivemind
Inverted the bottle flip
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@@dolphone6748and landed it right on the hudson
i am so upset that Riley didn't clarify what musical he was in at this girls' school and also didn't say what was written about him in the e-burn book?? like wtf way to leave us hanging Jesus Christ I will never sleep until I know
no literally i wanna know what they said about him
someone needs to pay for a cameo from him and ask him directly or something i NEED to know
@@RafaelSouza-pr4gs this is an excellent idea however i checked a few weeks ago and their cameo has been closed for months :( probably something that could get answered at a livemind or when they're on somebodys podcast though
The hivemind review of Scary Movie would be hilarious
🤘Rockin it my wayyy🤘
Riley is my favorite mean girl
The way this movie had a chokehold on every 13 to 16 year old at my high school (oh god that was over 10 years ago.) October 3rd was a national holiday. In 2012 when it fell on a Wednesday everyone was wearing pink.
i was born on Oct 3rd 2004 so im never gonna live that down
You forgot “she doesn’t even go here”
Wow, I did not imagine these sweaty hooligans from 6 years ago would be so versed in cinematic knowledge and artistic perspective! However, Graydon has STILL not let me go from the basement of the Gallatin School of Individualized study, where he made a lair so he could have “Peeping Peep” sessions where he would layer himself in marshmallows and sugar and spy on Eden at the NYU TIsch School for the Arts nextdoor! Anyways, love y’all!
❤😂😢😂🎉
brat is awesome but the song just came out let's give it some time
can’t wait to watch my favorite professional film critics break down mean girls
Rating mean girls by Charli xcx (which JUST came out btw) based on how it’s aged specifically because Charli is “getting up there in years” feels a little disrespectful guys 😒
bladee was first + better :3
@@SickVapeTricks okay? Who cares
Theater kid here, my high school recently did mean girls and for the record i think the actual musical is awesome. Granted, I’d have fun regardless of the production, but still i think it maintains a lot of the movies charm.
several schools in my local area recently did it in a weird coincidence! it's an awesome musical
to be fair i don't think lindsay lohan did a poor job, i just don't think the character was written very well. maybe it was because the narration carried the redemption arc, or maybe it's because the movie was pretty short, but the end of her character arc was extremely rushed which made it rush the resolution. but its a comedy, who gives a fuck
I had a huge crush on her at the time and loved her in this.
I think a big part of her acting in it is a lot of it is reactions to the other characters, everyone else is this over the top caricature but she's not supposed to be. So yeah, she wasn't even written to be the lead in her own movie.
Also on the redemption arc part, the movie sort of says it but I don't feel it was ever acknowledged how much every other character was wronging her.
She was the new kid, didn't understand any of this and 2 competing groups of people purely used her as part of their pre-existing fight.
The only person she really harmed in a way that wasn't a consequence of their own actions was the teacher. So I think the idea of the school forgiving her or something, she didn't do anything to 99.9% of those people, they just thought she pushed Regina and she didn't even do that.
This was such a good movie choice for your series! Some suggestions would be Friday (1995), Sister Act (1992), and But I'm a Cheerleader (1999). Love y'all!
I already know Graydons gonna give it a 3/5
The big surprise was Riley's 3/5
I want so badly for you to do an episode with Scott Cramer. He makes music and could hack it on the main channel but, personally, I want a Midwest themed tier list or bracket. Maybe "famous midwesterners" or "Midwestern tourist destinations"? Riley and Scott could circlejerk about their graphic design and advertising degrees, respectively. All I ask in return for these ideas is for Dignan to stop trying to crossbreed egyptian salamanders with cicadas in my root cellar.
That would be so fun, it’s funny how different the fan bases are but her we both are 😂
How would YOU feel if Tina Fey, Mark Waters, Lorne Michaels, Lindsay Lohan, Rachel McAdams, Dignan, Tim Meadows, Ana Gasteyer, Daniel Frantzese, Amy Poehler and some other people sat down and discussed how YOU aged? We really need more empathy in the internet space. ✅ 🤝🥰
how tf?! when y’all did napoleon dynamite, i watched it the day prior. i watched this thursday night, wtf
That’s that hivemind power buddy
grant putting a pic of some random anime book and not the Clique books is peak boy lmaoo the Clique books were sooo iconic
I'm so happy Graydon finally has a series where he can talk about movies
All the straight men are kicking their feet and giggling right now
tha absolute grind of this series has come in major clutch keep em comin boys!
32:19 speaking of; you guys should do Clueless
Edit: or 10 things i hate about you or any of the other romcoms from the time
oh man Clueless was so good, one of my fondest memories is watching it thinking it was a "girl movie" but it was so funny that I showed my older brother and he thought it was funny too. honestly I haven't seen it in a while but I think all things considered it's likely aged pretty well compared to some others of the time.
@KB-vr2ms yeahhh it's a good one. It'd probably age well except for when I'm pretty sure she like has a crush on her stepbrother or something??
Nice man! I can tell you have some pent up animosity 😊
DANNY DEVITO I LOVE YOUR WORK
Riley pushing the Renee Rapp joke is hilarious
Talladega Nights needs to be next
"she doesn't even go here!"
I was not ready at all for a "the clique books" reference lmao such a specific era of "young adult" book series
GOOD. IT AGES GOOD.
Favorite series on TH-cam rn. Keep it up
This one’s for all my mean girls!
I think you guys should do a video on bottoms 2023
i desperately need you guys to do white chicks
woaaaaaaah lets calm down buddy
I don’t think they can post them ‘doing white chicks’ on TH-cam they’ll probably be demonitised
Second this!!
Gross why do you want them to do that so badly?
19:50 How dare you not show this footage
thats what im sayin i wanna see it :[
It’s right after “we should totally just stab Caesar”!
The male version would be called "rude dudes"
Median men
Mean girls always finish last 😔😔
I love how when their talking about the clique books it’s not even the right book that pops up for the picture
It's crazy that Graydon probably drove all the way down airport highway from Swantucky to Wauseon and watched this at Skye Cinema
I like how the movie uses a lot if cliches but doesnt feel cliche itself.
Jay and Silent Bob strike back would be dope
the renee rapps was golden, maybe top 1 one liner imo
Graydon the type of bald eagle ass guy to have a list of favorite movies from 2001 to 2006.
no mention of my goat Kevin G is criminal
Re: real life burn book. There was a similar incident at my old school that was so bad multiple people got suspended iirc 💀teenagers really take hating to a whole different level
This is how I found out that Lorne Michaels is Jakes dad in Brooklyn 99 lol
we also gotta get white chicks on here. very very guilty pleasure of mine but it’s so fucking funny. i need my white guys to tell me (and a guest star possibly) if i can like the movie
20:25 I can’t tell if this is a play on words or not “where shit went down”
My fav series on TH-cam atm
dude this was could so be main channel this is good
The remake is fun I don’t know why people hate it so much tbh
Every video the date these two guys first met gets pushed back a little
Do idiocracy next please
why dont you post all of your fans comments in the intro of the video? Like no hate at all but it would be dope to see how many people were asking about what movies you should review. I've seen it before, sure, but it pays homage to your followers and makes them feel seen. Not being rude but I always think a lil 1-4 second collage of all the followers who asked is absolutely a cool idea. Love!!!
Anchorman would be a GREAT how did it age
ROLE MODELS NEXT I WILL STOP AT NOTHING
When Riley wears the mariners hat I get stoked go ms even tho we lost today
Oh this is a certified classic
The first movie I’ve seen of this series!
Guys Charli just dropped this song it hasn't even had time to age
Hate to break it to you Diggy but The Sixth Sense and Gladiator were 1999 and 2000, not 2001-2006.
I just watched this movie for the first time and I’m disappointed you didn’t mention when Karen said it was “like she had a 5th sense”
would love a retrospective on the notebook from u guys ngl
The bird fight. Very curious to see a horror movie review
totally didn't remember Put 'Em Up by N.O.R.E being in this movie till just rewatching it
HOW DID I MISS THIS greatest movie of all time I will forever die on that hill. On wednesdays we wear pink
Personally it's my favorite song on the album
am i just crazy or is there a scene where kady brings flowers to regina’s house and apologizes before the dance?? 27:23
Nah ur crazy
Pretty sure that does exist, its just a deleted scene unless i'm having a mandela effect
@@kkkfdjbxdnah that scene is there but it's like 10 seconds long
I honestly disagree with Riley’s last statements. This is still one of my favourite comedies of all time, I rewatch it every year and love it even more each time
I want to thank y'all from the heart for Introducing me to never bend by 03 Greedo, honest to god one of the best things I have ever heard
Yall should totally watch Heathers
54:12
Bryan Cranston does indeed have red hair
edit: had, he's old and has grey hair now, but he had
maybe it's just bc i grew up in a small town in the south but the homophobia towards girls was still SO rampant when i was in school, i got ostracized when they found out i liked girls in highschool LMAOO (for context i graduated last year)
I love Dignan and Rignan
That is my daughter’s favorite movie as a teen. It is also my son’s favorite movie as a preteen. 😂
My son even made his own business cards because of Kevin G. 😂 He was a Video Game Pro Player. He put a disclaimer, can pass most levels. 😂
Probably my favourite comedy of all time,
I think one really interesting thing with this sort of look is you're comparing how people talked or acted in the movie and saying we probably wouldn't portray it that way now or use those harsh words and stuff.
And I sort of agree, I think if someone made this now they wouldn't use those words or those specific stereotypes...in the movie.
But I think it's interesting that we just couldn't really make this now, because kids 100% still do that, still behave exactly like this, may not use these exact words, but just use new ones you'll also hate in 20 years... they won't call each other retarded, they'll call each other autistic.. and they'll certainly still call each other sluts and whores and stuff.
So I find it feels odd to realize that, it's not that kids don't do this now, we'd simply censor it. So what's aged isn't the underlying thing, but our willingness to honestly depict the underlying thing.
I haven't seen the musical version yet either, but I assume they've sanitized a lot of the dialogue.
I think though a lot of today's sensibility is like "you can't say a bad thing" but I think it should be more "You can say a bad thing because that's how we're showing the character is bad" like the good characters shouldn't say the bad thing but if you're trying to show a character is evil, why wouldn't that character use bad words?
It kind of reminds me of some article about Thanos or the Joker showing violence against women... like yeah, he wants to kill all living things, he's bad.
In another part I think one cool thing the movie did was while it focused on the Plastics and them being popular, there was a whole section towards the end where it showed like everyone has their own click and each of those clicks had these esoteric specific issues only they cared about but were really important to them, like the line "Don't drag me into this, I'm pitching tomorrow" I really liked that were it showed despite focusing on these like 5 or 6 people, all these other groups had their own dramas and things that made you important in those groups.
Also on the 'Cool Asians' thing, while that's sort of something the likely wouldn't say now too, that was like the first time that concept was depicted or said like that, the 'nerdy Asian' stereotype was always around, but that's the first explicit callout I'd ever heard that the 'cool Asian' crowd even existed and I did think there was a little subtle insight there that the nerdy math guy and the cool girl were brother and sister, there was a tiny bit of depth there.
We need the American Pie episode ASAP. People used to find that movie so funny, it still has cultural relevancy, and it has aged SO poorly
There's a lot of American Pie references in Mean Girls even
love watching you guys
28:09
i definitely think theres a few different ways you can look at that line, and while the way riley explained it is a very understandable way, i think you could also look at it as like “girls supporting girls” and being nice to each other and having each others backs and stuff? like if all women do is insult and bash each other, it makes way for it to be a more normal thing and allow men to do it too.
not saying thats the only way you can look at it, i just definitely think that over time, different lines and scenes can definitely mean new things or open to new meanings
Spaceballs next
the broadway musical is SO MUCH better than its new movie adaptation
U guys completely forgot about when the Asian said the n word
i was watching it with my partner and their family a few nights ago, and their white dad parroted that line, and we all turned to him, and he was like “what?! she said it!”💀
Yeah I was surprised about that too
yall should do the movie flawless
I can't hold on much longer
Now I wanna see how did it age: lord of the rings