@@kristianferencik8685 Well, maybe not thousands, given how Dante looked before crossing the Primaris (he might still look the same, but the only image of him outside of his armor was when he was firstborn) and he's 1,500 years old, the oldest living loyalist marine in the setting. Now, maybe that's just exclusive to the Blood Angels because they have to resist their gene-flaw their entire lives, IDK, but still.
@@SoulBre4kerthere’s a few things 1: Dante has been managing the blood angels for about 3000 years and he is very stressed. Most of the times when space marines age is not quite due to their genes but yeah this bastard has aged. Secondly primarchs aren’t supposed to age, space marines are also supposed to be long lasting. Yeah, we will see them age as shown by the iron warriors loyalist who was aged by hundreds if not thousands of years.
@@hectorandem2944 " we have 100x the discipline, we have 0% chance of betrayel. These are the most advanced beings in the universe. Who's laughing now?"
Magnus is a nerd, vulkan just too damn nice, rogal dorn is brutally honest, leman russ has a wolf fetish, perturabo is childish, fulgrim is always trying to beat the emperor in getting majestic hair
- *Fulgrim:* penchant towards narcissism and perfectionism - *Perturabo:* extreme paranoia - *Jaghatai Khan:* susceptible to berserker rage - *Lemann Russ:* have wolf characteristics and may devolve into wolf-like beasts during their ascension into Astartes or during their lives - *Rogal Dorn:* no defect, one successor chapter's astartes suffer from catatonia - *Conrad Kurze:* intrinsic pessimism; Librarians are susceptible to seizures when they have visions; physical pallor and dark eyes - *Sanguinius:* the primarch had angel-like wings; Astartes are susceptible to a blood-thirst; Astartes are susceptible to berserker rage - *Ferrus Manus:* primarch had his hands covered with necrodermis due to accident; Astartes suffer from body dysphoria and self-deprecation - *Angron:* Primarch and Astartes are routinely implanted devices that increase battle performance while leaving them susceptible to corruption; innately gregarious but with a penchant towards bloodlust - *Mortarion:* Pale and gaunt; resistance to contagion and toxins (actually an advantage?) - *Magnus the Red:* red skin, extreme psychic power; Astartes have a high sensitivity to the Warp, sometimes manifesting in possession into Chaos Spawn - *Lorgar:* theophilia, has a need to worship someone or something; high warp sensitivity - *Vulkan:* physically strong, even for a Primarch; red eyes, coal black, heat resistant skin; high physical resilience; stubbornness; - *Corvus Korax:* albino pale skin, black hair and black irises; Astartes lack of Mucranoid Gland and Betcher's Gland; Astartes susceptible to melancholy, narcissism and pessimism - *Alpharius and Omegon:* high implantation success; - *Roboute Guilliman:* no flaws, Primarch shows high resilience to corruption - *Lion El'Jonson:* no flaws - *Horus Lupercal:* no flaws, considered to be physically and mentally superior to other Primarchs, later found out to be extremely naive towards the warp and susceptible to corruption
You nailed them! For Mortarion, I would say his trait is defiance. He was always defiant and had humanity towards fellow Legionaries. He did give in to Nurgle to save his sons after all.
its true, Ferrus Manus planned to change the teachings of his Iron hands after the Great Crusade ended, get rid of the whole "bionics" and "flesh is weak" doctrine. this was actually influenced by the talks he had with Fulgrim (before Fulgrim went mad mind u...the real Fulgrim). Fulgrim often wondered if Manus and his legion were too reliant on the machine and bionics...if they had no faith in their flesh. with that in mind Ferrus Manus was going to re-educate his legion...but he never spoke to his men about it and before that could happen...ironically...the Horus Heresy occurred and Ferrus Manus was killed...so the Iron Hands eternally live a lie now...they think they know what is best for their legion...that this is what their Primarch wanted...but it wasn't.
Vulcan for the win, Salamanders need a codex. "Into the fires of battle, unto the Anvil of War!" Great job getting to 100k, where's that TH-cam play button going to go?
Are you sure it was a "Genetic Flaw" that made the Iron Warriors hate the rest of the legions? Not the fact they were treated like trash by literally EVERYONE? Including dear old dad?
Everyone considered them the garrison/ trench digger Legion. That and Perturabo was an architect at heart. He wanted to build cities, not serve as the meatgrinder Legion.
The Salamander's flaw wasn't their skin changing. It was just their eyes. The skin change was a result of their station upon Nocturne making their defense against the environment kick into overdrive like Vulcan's did.
neither of those things were flaws; the ultraviolet rays of their sun caused their skin to go black and their eyes to go red. we have to remember all the Primarchs started out IDENTICAL...Vulkan wasn't black...he was white like the rest of them...but then he crashed onto Nocturne and he turned black and his eyes went red...the sun was unbearable. it was also the hottest time of year...so it was even worse. if he hadn't been a perpetual...he probably would have died. Vulkan's only gene flaw is that he is a perpetual...something he hid because it was such an OP ability.
Their skin does have a flaw. They absorb light much easier, causing black skin. On normal planets they still darken, but with nocturne being as it is they turn fully black quickly. Vulkan also didn't know he was perpetual until Istaavon V, when he was first killed.
Vulkans: he wasn't killed on Istvaan V, he was beaten to NEAR death by the Night Lords and then taken away by Konrad and tortured aboard his ship, he broke free and fought Konrad but escaped into the vacuum of space...he later crashed down on Macragge where the ultramarines found him and eventually he was returned to the Salamanders after a long time of recovering...it was after that Vulkan set out on a quest and never returned. he knew he was a perpetual...he just kept it quiet.
hmmm, thats probably the opposite of the actual. he did have excellent command and knew how to use each of his brothers' legions. except the part where he turned to chaos, he was tricked and didnt have knowledge of chaos.
OneMindSyndicate Depends on how you define flaws, you can argue that the Sons of Horus thing was a gene seed flaw. As its something random that doesnt seem intentional.
Why are Dark Angels so best? There is literally nothing bad in their history at all, and they are completely transparent and open about this. Lion a best, wolf a shit
Love this channel, listen to it every morning going into work in Alaska! Hope to keep hearing some great lore and 40 facts and maybe win a box set some day. Keep up the work!
I have a theory that one of the forgotten primarchs was a blank, as it is indicated that at least one primarch was expunged due to some genetic defect, and a blank is basically the only major mutation not accounted for within the primarchs.
Amazing videos. Absolutely awesome to listen to on my long drive to work. It also saves me time from having to tell my wife (who is using some parts of lores as ideas to write a current book) the lores and stories of questions she has.
Onemindsydicates gene flaw is the inability to consistently pronounce the word wolf constantly switching to woof then back to wolf. His children have seemed to have carried on this flaw and struggle to read the three little pigs and little red riding hood.
Great video I like the longer more broader videos like this that cover a very wide variety of lore and I feel like that really catches the interest of new comers who will then want to find out more for themselves.
Love your guys content. And I've been wanting to get that starter box. I would also like to thank you listening to your lore videos in December of 2015 got me to start playing 40k. You would always stop and say I hope your painting is going well. Do finally i went online and bought assault on black reach. From there it took 5 months to get my first game but I love it. Thank you guys for getting me into the greatest hobby ever.
I do have to say though that the angels wings are not vestigial as they function, are completely advantageous and are a new mutation not a "vestige" of the species he evolved from.
I always thought Sanguinius' Wings were functional and not vestigial, maybe check that... Also, I love how cheesy Corvus Corax and the raven guard are with all their existential drama. They're up there in goofyness with the Space Wolves and their canine fixation. It's just too much, I can't take them seriously. Every time I remember the moment of Corax flying away into oblivion shouting "NEVERMOOOOREEeeeee..." I can't help laughing. That said, I wouldn't change it a bit. I think those silly details in a setting as grim as 40K make the whole thing much more entertaining.
I have always loved the videos on the Primarchs as well as the videos on the fan made armies. In fact, it was the fan made chapters videos that have been inspiring me to further develope the back story of my own chapter in the hopes that they might be the topic of a future video
You're right i forgot to talk about this. Its not an inherent flaw but rather a mutation that happened after the implantation process was sped up on corrupted gene seed. Just like what Corax did with his legions gene seed. Thanks for pointing that out.
even without the blight...the Emperor's Children were always obsessed with perfection...they had to embody it and glorify the Emperor...the second they screwed that up Fulgrim was like "NO...i will not accept that i just killed my brother Manus...i would rather let madness consume me than accept it...i cannot do somethnig so imperfect!" ok i went a little overdramatic there but u get the gist XD
The only thing more obnoxious than 'The Ultramarines are the greatest marines!' is the existence of the Primaris. Who we can thank the Ultramines for supplying, apparently.
Some call them flaws, but I believe the emperor was trying to create beings to challenge him in all aspects of his life so that he would have someone help him grow so he would not stagnate.
16:25 wait a god damn second. Say that again. Salamanders only darken due to heavy radiation? So hypothetically I could make am Axolotl chapter, write lore that they are a successor group, stick them in a low radiation zone or like under ground and they'd be white as Scandinavians? Thinking like a kinda white / light pearl color scheme.
Hypothetically, yes. Although they might be seen more as Night Lords or Raven Guard successors. That would be a fun dynamic of being Salamander successors that have to constantly prove such. However, it would also kinda mess with the whole 'we love using flames' thing the Salamanders have there.
This episode got me thinking, It seems like they have a lot in common or in contrast. I'm sure you could organise this another 10 different ways but here is what I noticed. Death Guard v Salamander = Resistance World Eaters v Blood Angels = Anger Black Legion v Ultramarines = Genericness/Size Iron Warriors v Iron Hands = Robo fetish Word Bearers v Dark Angels = Religiousness Night Lords v Raven Guard = Egde Alpha Legion v Imperial Fists = Tactics Thousand sons v White Scars = Taking your homeworld to heart Emperors Children v Space Wolves = Unflawed vs Flawed from the start
Yeah Imperial Fists are Siege masters and Iron Warriors are Fortification masters, that's already well established in the Lore. But when it comes to tacticians, Rogal Dorn is the only "Good" Primarch that could give Alpharius a run for his money. At least in my opinion.
Actually it´s the other way round, both were experts at both things, though the Fists were regarded as superior in the defensive aspect. Thats why the Fists were chosen to protect and fortify terra, which enraged Perturabo, causing him to taunt Dorn after the siege of terra with his own inassaultable fortress to prove the emperors choice wrong. Also, the Word Bearers were the imperiums diplomats, so while they may not have been as compassionate as the Salamanders, they at least presented themselves in a similar light. Also, some of your comparison don´t hold up either pre or post heresy. The Black Rage of the Blood Angels only came into being after Sanguinias´ death, before that they weren´t really renouned for their excessive fury. Post heresy the ultramarines were the first to reduce their numbers to codex compliancy, the largest chapter are the black templars, sons of Dorn. The Dark Angels aren´t excessively religious although they have numerous allusions to mormon religion, they are more secretive, closer to the Alpha legion.
You are wrong on a lot of these! The Wolves ALL have yellow, black pinned eyes and they don't get leathery skin, they get pale and translucent skin with age, just like Longfang in Prospero Burns. The Fists don't have acid spit. The Emperor's Children have a compulsion to vanity. The Iron Warriors are morose, have terrible tempers, and will not relent, even when it is victory to do so. The Iron Hands have more resilient flesh as well, this was indicated as Erebus was trying to sacrifice them. The Death Guard are resilient and enduring. The Thousand Sons have the flesh change. The Blood Angels have the red thirst. The World Eaters were blood thirsty beyond advantage or reason. The Word Bearers didn't really have any overt flaws, only having an inclination to faith. The Salamanders had burned skin and red, glowing eyes, the Salamanders' natural state was viscous commitment and self destruction. This was solved by Vulkan's tempering of his sons. This is well outlined in Old Earth. The Alpha Legion is not only secretive and deceptive, but is prone to over-complication. The three you didn't list were Horus, Guilliman, and Jonson. These three had remarkably pure gene seed, particularly the 1st and 13th Legions. Before then Rangdan Xenocide, the 1st Legion was the largest legion by a large margin. After losing a large percentage of their Legion, they were a close second. You had great information on the 19th though.
King Baldwin IV actually the World Eaters only went crazy after they met up with Angron who did to them what was done to him which is also why he went ape shit they all had the butcher's nails implanted in them, and Space wolves skin does turn thicker and more leathery over time
One is a lie of omission, the other is a lie of commission. Both show a crap job. So make some more great excuses for not doing a complete job, super. It is not insignificant if it is one of the clearly stated textual flaws. This is a bad job. It represents incomplete research and the fact that the group has a poor handle on 40k. Try Tactica Imperialis or 40K Theories, they don't botch simple videos.
King Baldwin IV "As a Space Wolf warrior grows older his hair turns course and wiry, turning a particular shade of grey, and his canines lengthen into true, wolf-like fangs. Even his skin becomes thicker and more leathery like a wolf pelt and all Space Wolf Marines are usually quite hirsuite. These traits in their fully matured form are usually emblematic of a Space Wolf who has become a Grey Hunter, " this has been the standard passage for the space wolf gene seed effects on a Space Wolf since I first started reading about 40k way back in the day
michaelkeha, good for you, it is apparently not canon. Longfang is described very differently in Prospero Burns by the best author that GW has. Jarl Og, Lord Gun, and others flatly deviate. Added to that were the telltale descriptions of other more aged, senior wolves, and many Jarls. The descriptions do not comport with your description. All of the wolves' eyes are yellow pinned with black as the standard.
One mind Syndicate is my favorite daily TH-cam stop. You guys have really helped me grow the hobby Question: do chainswords idle like a modern chain saw. Or do they spin up in an instant? Like an electric chain saw? Like wise do power/ force weapons make like lightsaber noises? My local group was playing a Deathwatch rpg game and the question came up while “sneaking”
Power weapons and chain weapons usually have to be turned on before going into battle and can be switched off by a single button press. As powe weapons look like a regular weapon with lightning arcing on it I would say that the crackle like sparks
Definitely liking the content. Looking forward to hopefully winning the Primaris Marines! Grew up watching my dad play, and watching my roommate make his own army now.
Ferrus Manus is the laziest damn name in the entire series. Ferrus Manus of the Iron Hands translates to Iron Hands of the Iron Hands. He's the fucking Moon Moon of the Warhammer 40k.
Omg I'm new to Warhammer and subscribed to your channel cuz I love the lore and I really hope I can win the know no fear set as I'm already planning on getting the first strike set.
H0rsemen0fDeath trust me, you can find so many other better channels to subscribe to than this one. They just read from the wiki and somehow still fuck things up. I'd recommend Vaults of Terra, Grimdark Narrator, Tactica Imperial, and 40k theories over this dumpster fire of a channel
Know it’s a long shot but gonna try to win the starter set, one of my buddies and I started up playing warhammer 40k recently and he chose space marines as his army and I chose chaos for mine winning this would help save a lot of money for both of us. Love the videos and keep up the good work
All interesting. For me I'd have to say the Blood Angels Red Thirst and Black Rage have to be my favorites. Talk about berserker, blood thirsty super humans running at you with no regard for themselves sounds terrifying. Whether fighting against or fighting on the same side. Having to witness that on the battlefield would truly be horrible. Probably for those fighting for the imperium; you would see the emperor's angels of death that resemble humans going crazy to bathe in the enemies blood, that would make anyone go insane.
There is a good argument that Lion had very strong flaw which was being paranoid. Thats why his sons dont trust eachother at all, make secrets out of everything. Also its interesting story point that both splinter groups consider themselves to be the real Dark Angels and some think that people like Cypher may actually go with the real chapter plan (which is obviously super secret). Fallen Angels are not aware that Chaos is supporting them and messing with them.
Ferrus Manus did not have mechanized hands. His arms were covered with necrodermis (Necron living metal). It may be likely that his muscle and flesh was replaced by it over time, but it was never mechanized like his sons. He did not attain this from an accident. He gained the metal from plunging Asirnoth, a greatwyrm that was made of necrodermis, into lava in order to kill it. His hands went down into the lava with it, but the necrodermis stuck to his flesh.
I’m pretty sure that the imperial fists and their successors are also missing a few space marine organs, such as a betchis gland (acidic saliva) and susan membrane (suspended animation) And before reuniting with fulgrim the emperors children had a flaw called the blight, which was replaced by a tendency to have their face resemble fulgrims after it was cured. As for Horus (the one you missed) he had a similar flaw to the alpha legion and emperor’s children in which his sons would mutate to look almost identical to him. Such examples include Abadon the despoiler and Horus the lesser though it was stated that most of his legionnaires faces resembled his. There are also multiple accounts of Alpha legionnaires being taller and bulkier then the average space marine, allowing alpharius, who was indeed a short primarch but still a primarch, to infiltrate their ranks undetected and blend in with his look-alike legion. There are also rumors of alpha legionnaires mutating and then using those mutations in combat like the black dragons and space wolves, but that could be the warp influencing them. And that’s not even mentioning Omegon. And sure giliman and Johnson might not have flaws but it would’ve been nice if they were mentioned.
don't forget that Alpharius tampered with the Raven Guards geneseed so that when Coral would try to replenish his ranks almost all of his new Marines ended up with fatal mutations.
don't the fists also lack the belcher's gland, meaning they don't have acid spit and they are also unable to enter stasis sleep, making them unable to warp travel?
The art of Corax at 17:05 always freaks me out everytime I see it. His long hair just flowing in the breeze..... near the active intakes of his jumpack that could suck in his hair at any moment.
The Imperial Fists don't suffer from genetic degradation but through misadventure have lost the Betcher's Gland and Sus-An Membrane from their suite of gene seed. This has, to my knowledge, been due to those particular implants being lost over time due to battlefield losses leading to lower and lower recovery rates for those glands until they were no longer viable.
ferrus' arms were covered in necrodermis not mechanical. the fists had the genetic flaw of not being able to spit acid. and the night lords had a tendency to albinism with black eyes after seed implantation.
"As space wolves grow older, their hair will turn grey" That happens to most people I think.
They aren't supposed to age.
Most people don't live that long
@@drawbyyourselve but they are essentially immortal being able to live thousands of years without showing any sign of aging like the emporer.
@@kristianferencik8685 Well, maybe not thousands, given how Dante looked before crossing the Primaris (he might still look the same, but the only image of him outside of his armor was when he was firstborn) and he's 1,500 years old, the oldest living loyalist marine in the setting. Now, maybe that's just exclusive to the Blood Angels because they have to resist their gene-flaw their entire lives, IDK, but still.
@@SoulBre4kerthere’s a few things
1: Dante has been managing the blood angels for about 3000 years and he is very stressed.
Most of the times when space marines age is not quite due to their genes but yeah this bastard has aged.
Secondly primarchs aren’t supposed to age, space marines are also supposed to be long lasting.
Yeah, we will see them age as shown by the iron warriors loyalist who was aged by hundreds if not thousands of years.
What do you mean Vulkan *WAS?* he still is.
*VULKAN LIVES!!!*
Stomp stomp!
Darrian Weathington VULKAN LIVES
VULKAN LIVES!!!
-Stomp Stomp Stomp-
VULKAN LIVES
STOMP STOMP
VULKAN LIVES
HE IS INTO THE FIRES OF BATTLE
*UNTO THE ANVIL OF WAR*
can someone explain to me why i see "vulkan lives stomp stomp" in every video that mentions vulkan or the salamanders
“Leman russ, also know as the woof king and primarch of the space woofs”
Woof!
All hail the borkfather!
@@considerthefollowing684 YES!
lol I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that
You mean furries
Silly heretic, the emperors work has no flaws, only “features”
The emperor is a Bethesda dev confirmed
_Todd Howard, 2nd Millenium:_ *"It just works."*
_The Emperor of Mankind, 40th Millenium:_ *"Don't worry, Malchador. It just works!"*
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@hectorandem2944 so this is why they couldn't advance their tech
“It’s not a bug it’s a feature”
@@hectorandem2944 " we have 100x the discipline, we have 0% chance of betrayel. These are the most advanced beings in the universe. Who's laughing now?"
Magnus is a nerd, vulkan just too damn nice, rogal dorn is brutally honest, leman russ has a wolf fetish, perturabo is childish, fulgrim is always trying to beat the emperor in getting majestic hair
fulcrum 29 has _obviously_ seen "If the Emperor had a Text to Speech device"...
And Lorgar is a dumbass
+ Alpharius was manlet
“To this day, he has not succeeded.”
- Man-Emperor of Mankind
perturabo childish? Let's see how you would fair if the elder gods haunted your dreams.
Ravenguard be like "It's not a phase mom, it's my geneseed!"
- *Fulgrim:* penchant towards narcissism and perfectionism
- *Perturabo:* extreme paranoia
- *Jaghatai Khan:* susceptible to berserker rage
- *Lemann Russ:* have wolf characteristics and may devolve into wolf-like beasts during their ascension into Astartes or during their lives
- *Rogal Dorn:* no defect, one successor chapter's astartes suffer from catatonia
- *Conrad Kurze:* intrinsic pessimism; Librarians are susceptible to seizures when they have visions; physical pallor and dark eyes
- *Sanguinius:* the primarch had angel-like wings; Astartes are susceptible to a blood-thirst; Astartes are susceptible to berserker rage
- *Ferrus Manus:* primarch had his hands covered with necrodermis due to accident; Astartes suffer from body dysphoria and self-deprecation
- *Angron:* Primarch and Astartes are routinely implanted devices that increase battle performance while leaving them susceptible to corruption; innately gregarious but with a penchant towards bloodlust
- *Mortarion:* Pale and gaunt; resistance to contagion and toxins (actually an advantage?)
- *Magnus the Red:* red skin, extreme psychic power; Astartes have a high sensitivity to the Warp, sometimes manifesting in possession into Chaos Spawn
- *Lorgar:* theophilia, has a need to worship someone or something; high warp sensitivity
- *Vulkan:* physically strong, even for a Primarch; red eyes, coal black, heat resistant skin; high physical resilience; stubbornness;
- *Corvus Korax:* albino pale skin, black hair and black irises; Astartes lack of Mucranoid Gland and Betcher's Gland; Astartes susceptible to melancholy, narcissism and pessimism
- *Alpharius and Omegon:* high implantation success;
- *Roboute Guilliman:* no flaws, Primarch shows high resilience to corruption
- *Lion El'Jonson:* no flaws
- *Horus Lupercal:* no flaws, considered to be physically and mentally superior to other Primarchs, later found out to be extremely naive towards the warp and susceptible to corruption
@NurturingTalents not a lust, more a slight hubris based on the fact that he is amazingly good at organising politics.
You forgot that vulkan can regenerate
*- Angron:* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Angron doesn't have a genetic flaw to our knowledge, and the Butcher's Nails don't count as a genetic flaw
You nailed them! For Mortarion, I would say his trait is defiance. He was always defiant and had humanity towards fellow Legionaries. He did give in to Nurgle to save his sons after all.
Ferrus Manus had arms covered in Necrodermis, not prosthetic replacements.
lonegoat81 you shouldn't mention that heresy(!) at loud...
Ferrus also hated the idea of replacing bits...
its true, Ferrus Manus planned to change the teachings of his Iron hands after the Great Crusade ended, get rid of the whole "bionics" and "flesh is weak" doctrine. this was actually influenced by the talks he had with Fulgrim (before Fulgrim went mad mind u...the real Fulgrim). Fulgrim often wondered if Manus and his legion were too reliant on the machine and bionics...if they had no faith in their flesh. with that in mind Ferrus Manus was going to re-educate his legion...but he never spoke to his men about it and before that could happen...ironically...the Horus Heresy occurred and Ferrus Manus was killed...so the Iron Hands eternally live a lie now...they think they know what is best for their legion...that this is what their Primarch wanted...but it wasn't.
There you are, Brothers....
@onemindsyndicate vestigal means left over, non-functional. Sanguinious 's wings were very much functional.
Bro they literally just read what other people have written down somewhere. There is 0 thinking to these
Vestigial doesn't actually mean non-functional, just no longer possessing the original function. Vestigial organs can still perform some functions.
I thought that most of sanguinous's flying ability cam from psycher powers
And Ferrus didn't have mechanised hands, they were coated in living metal.
@@KalleVilenius
Vestigial: degenerate, rudimentary, or atrophied, having become functionless in the course of evolution.
Vulcan for the win, Salamanders need a codex. "Into the fires of battle, unto the Anvil of War!"
Great job getting to 100k, where's that TH-cam play button going to go?
Preach it, man!
Yeeeeesssss they do need a codex. My favorite by far great fluff with that chapter.
Are you sure it was a "Genetic Flaw" that made the Iron Warriors hate the rest of the legions? Not the fact they were treated like trash by literally EVERYONE? Including dear old dad?
According to the Black Books - World Eaters are battle brothers with Iron Warriors
spoken like a son of iron
Why were they treated badly
Everyone considered them the garrison/ trench digger Legion. That and Perturabo was an architect at heart. He wanted to build cities, not serve as the meatgrinder Legion.
@@lordinquisitorsec7532 PROTURBO!!!!
The Salamander's flaw wasn't their skin changing. It was just their eyes. The skin change was a result of their station upon Nocturne making their defense against the environment kick into overdrive like Vulcan's did.
neither of those things were flaws; the ultraviolet rays of their sun caused their skin to go black and their eyes to go red. we have to remember all the Primarchs started out IDENTICAL...Vulkan wasn't black...he was white like the rest of them...but then he crashed onto Nocturne and he turned black and his eyes went red...the sun was unbearable. it was also the hottest time of year...so it was even worse. if he hadn't been a perpetual...he probably would have died. Vulkan's only gene flaw is that he is a perpetual...something he hid because it was such an OP ability.
Their skin does have a flaw. They absorb light much easier, causing black skin. On normal planets they still darken, but with nocturne being as it is they turn fully black quickly. Vulkan also didn't know he was perpetual until Istaavon V, when he was first killed.
Vulkans: he wasn't killed on Istvaan V, he was beaten to NEAR death by the Night Lords and then taken away by Konrad and tortured aboard his ship, he broke free and fought Konrad but escaped into the vacuum of space...he later crashed down on Macragge where the ultramarines found him and eventually he was returned to the Salamanders after a long time of recovering...it was after that Vulkan set out on a quest and never returned. he knew he was a perpetual...he just kept it quiet.
The colour change for both eyes and skin is indeed a flaw from the Mucranoid gland as it is for the raven guard.
@@IDyce88 If they are based on the Emperor shouldn't they be Middle Eastern
Alpha legion flaw: Everyone is Alpharius.
Hydra Dominatus
A on even days. O on
Odd. Or maybe the other way. Idk. Flip a coin?
"Leman Russ, also known as the Woof King and the Great Woof"??!!!?
Blood Angels will occasionally develop small wings during their transformation, these wings are removed.
You missed Horus Lupercal! The Warmaster, the Great Traitor!
Horus had no flaws... :D
Tarorc79 .....shit judgement?
hmmm, thats probably the opposite of the actual. he did have excellent command and knew how to use each of his brothers' legions. except the part where he turned to chaos, he was tricked and didnt have knowledge of chaos.
procar09 I refer you to the Abbadon quote regarding his dear gene-father
Thats who we missed. His gene seed was extremely pure.
haha the spirit of the woof
The one that guilliman passed on was being the space marine equivalent of that kid that tries too hard to be valedictorian
There's a theory the black Templar have a flaw that they feel dorn's rage when he chased chaos after the Horus heresy
I absolutely love your channel and the lore, every second of it. THANK YOU for creating these videos!
For the glory of the Emperor!
“And I probably didn't include a third primarch probably...maybe?”
Horus: rolls in his grave.
Horus: *gets dug up and killed again for moving in his grave*
Had me going you guys Rock I swear sometimes it feels like you guys are just my buddies giving me info about the lore as we sit around and talk.
From what I understand the Dark Angels, Ultramarines and Grey Knights are the only chapters with “Pure” untainted geneseed.
And the luna Wolves before horus was injured
OneMindSyndicate Even in the current cannon of 40k it’s still pure?
Chaplain Aztar Iron Hands gene seed and Imperial Fists are also pretty damn pure sans the minor quirks.
OneMindSyndicate Depends on how you define flaws, you can argue that the Sons of Horus thing was a gene seed flaw. As its something random that doesnt seem intentional.
Why are Dark Angels so best? There is literally nothing bad in their history at all, and they are completely transparent and open about this. Lion a best, wolf a shit
Love this channel, listen to it every morning going into work in Alaska! Hope to keep hearing some great lore and 40 facts and maybe win a box set some day. Keep up the work!
I have a theory that one of the forgotten primarchs was a blank, as it is indicated that at least one primarch was expunged due to some genetic defect, and a blank is basically the only major mutation not accounted for within the primarchs.
A blank like no warp presence?
Amazing videos. Absolutely awesome to listen to on my long drive to work. It also saves me time from having to tell my wife (who is using some parts of lores as ideas to write a current book) the lores and stories of questions she has.
Onemindsydicates gene flaw is the inability to consistently pronounce the word wolf constantly switching to woof then back to wolf. His children have seemed to have carried on this flaw and struggle to read the three little pigs and little red riding hood.
champ8605 Better watch what you say, that's Heresy against the Emperber
Great video I like the longer more broader videos like this that cover a very wide variety of lore and I feel like that really catches the interest of new comers who will then want to find out more for themselves.
So, where did Abbadon inherit the genetic flaw of having no arms?
He inherit the flaw of constant failure.
He got from his mama
Nowadays his golden eyes are the biggest question mark about him.
Tell that to Cadia
Love your guys content. And I've been wanting to get that starter box. I would also like to thank you listening to your lore videos in December of 2015 got me to start playing 40k. You would always stop and say I hope your painting is going well. Do finally i went online and bought assault on black reach. From there it took 5 months to get my first game but I love it. Thank you guys for getting me into the greatest hobby ever.
And for some reason I had to subscribe again
I do have to say though that the angels wings are not vestigial as they function, are completely advantageous and are a new mutation not a "vestige" of the species he evolved from.
Your right.
You're* :D
I still love all my brothers no matter what. I see no flaws with them. They are perfect in my eyes.
I always thought Sanguinius' Wings were functional and not vestigial, maybe check that...
Also, I love how cheesy Corvus Corax and the raven guard are with all their existential drama. They're up there in goofyness with the Space Wolves and their canine fixation. It's just too much, I can't take them seriously. Every time I remember the moment of Corax flying away into oblivion shouting "NEVERMOOOOREEeeeee..." I can't help laughing. That said, I wouldn't change it a bit. I think those silly details in a setting as grim as 40K make the whole thing much more entertaining.
canine fixation? What the wolf did you say, you wolfing wolf? Wolf...!
The word "Wolf" has been replaced by "Corgi", apparently. Which is unfortunate.
I have always loved the videos on the Primarchs as well as the videos on the fan made armies. In fact, it was the fan made chapters videos that have been inspiring me to further develope the back story of my own chapter in the hopes that they might be the topic of a future video
Doesn't the Emperor's Children have the blight? The genetic flaw that nearly wiped them out and prompted Fabius to study genetics?
You're right i forgot to talk about this. Its not an inherent flaw but rather a mutation that happened after the implantation process was sped up on corrupted gene seed. Just like what Corax did with his legions gene seed. Thanks for pointing that out.
Since it's not an inherent flaw, does that mean if the original Gene Seed was used once again, the Blight wouldn't be an issue?
Zakery Fyke if it is an acquired flaw, the original gene seed should not have the flaw.
even without the blight...the Emperor's Children were always obsessed with perfection...they had to embody it and glorify the Emperor...the second they screwed that up Fulgrim was like "NO...i will not accept that i just killed my brother Manus...i would rather let madness consume me than accept it...i cannot do somethnig so imperfect!" ok i went a little overdramatic there but u get the gist XD
It's still ironic as fuck that the chapter with a black majority was stained coal black
The videos you guys put out made me start playing, I have a friend who tried to get me into it but he was never good at explaining the lore
"Rowboat Girlyman was super perfect and any flaws totally weren't his fault." I know who's narrating this video, his name rhymes with "Matt Ward"
The only thing more obnoxious than 'The Ultramarines are the greatest marines!' is the existence of the Primaris. Who we can thank the Ultramines for supplying, apparently.
you are the reason i know so much lore thanks for all the hard work
Some call them flaws, but I believe the emperor was trying to create beings to challenge him in all aspects of his life so that he would have someone help him grow so he would not stagnate.
i'm just starting warhammer (bought an old "battle for macragge" set) and i was pretty clueless about a lot of the lore. these vids definitely help.
16:25 wait a god damn second. Say that again. Salamanders only darken due to heavy radiation? So hypothetically I could make am Axolotl chapter, write lore that they are a successor group, stick them in a low radiation zone or like under ground and they'd be white as Scandinavians? Thinking like a kinda white / light pearl color scheme.
Hypothetically, yes. Although they might be seen more as Night Lords or Raven Guard successors. That would be a fun dynamic of being Salamander successors that have to constantly prove such. However, it would also kinda mess with the whole 'we love using flames' thing the Salamanders have there.
Keep up the good work guys. I'm listening to you while painting. Thanks!
This episode got me thinking, It seems like they have a lot in common or in contrast. I'm sure you could organise this another 10 different ways but here is what I noticed.
Death Guard v Salamander = Resistance
World Eaters v Blood Angels = Anger
Black Legion v Ultramarines = Genericness/Size
Iron Warriors v Iron Hands = Robo fetish
Word Bearers v Dark Angels = Religiousness
Night Lords v Raven Guard = Egde
Alpha Legion v Imperial Fists = Tactics
Thousand sons v White Scars = Taking your homeworld to heart
Emperors Children v Space Wolves = Unflawed vs Flawed from the start
I dunno man. I like most of them, but Iron warriors are closer to Emperors fists
Yeah Imperial Fists are Siege masters and Iron Warriors are Fortification masters, that's already well established in the Lore. But when it comes to tacticians, Rogal Dorn is the only "Good" Primarch that could give Alpharius a run for his money. At least in my opinion.
Debatable, but I tend to agree. Rogal Dorn seems to be a good tactician, but I think Alpharius is not only a
great tactician, but a great strategist.
Actually it´s the other way round, both were experts at both things, though the Fists were regarded as superior in the defensive aspect.
Thats why the Fists were chosen to protect and fortify terra, which enraged Perturabo, causing him to taunt Dorn after the siege of terra with his own inassaultable fortress to prove the emperors choice wrong.
Also, the Word Bearers were the imperiums diplomats, so while they may not have been as compassionate as the Salamanders, they at least presented themselves in a similar light.
Also, some of your comparison don´t hold up either pre or post heresy.
The Black Rage of the Blood Angels only came into being after Sanguinias´ death, before that they weren´t really renouned for their excessive fury.
Post heresy the ultramarines were the first to reduce their numbers to codex compliancy, the largest chapter are the black templars, sons of Dorn.
The Dark Angels aren´t excessively religious although they have numerous allusions to mormon religion, they are more secretive, closer to the Alpha legion.
the dark angels arent religious though
Your videos rock man! I watch them all the time! Keep doing what you’re doing!
One possible reason for the later ultramarine flaws is they 'adopted' loyalist elements of the trators
that is true I forgot to mention that
Personally suspect Lamenters are a thousand sons chapter being punished by tzeench until they join their brothers
chris pilkington but Lamenters are blood angel's successors who have in recent times have started having issues with the Red thirst and black rage.
Love the channel hope to see this content for years to come!
Heresy! There are NO flaws!🔪💀
The biggest flaw is their devotion to the emperor
OneMindSyndicate HERESY!
OneMindSyndicate is that heresy coming from you I smell?
WAAAAAAGH!!!
Are they copies of the big Emp, or sad reflections of his personality split across several bodies?
Come at me, accuser!
love the lore videos about the primarchs! Keep up the great work!
You are wrong on a lot of these!
The Wolves ALL have yellow, black pinned eyes and they don't get leathery skin, they get pale and translucent skin with age, just like Longfang in Prospero Burns.
The Fists don't have acid spit.
The Emperor's Children have a compulsion to vanity.
The Iron Warriors are morose, have terrible tempers, and will not relent, even when it is victory to do so.
The Iron Hands have more resilient flesh as well, this was indicated as Erebus was trying to sacrifice them.
The Death Guard are resilient and enduring.
The Thousand Sons have the flesh change.
The Blood Angels have the red thirst.
The World Eaters were blood thirsty beyond advantage or reason.
The Word Bearers didn't really have any overt flaws, only having an inclination to faith.
The Salamanders had burned skin and red, glowing eyes, the Salamanders' natural state was viscous commitment and self destruction. This was solved by Vulkan's tempering of his sons. This is well outlined in Old Earth.
The Alpha Legion is not only secretive and deceptive, but is prone to over-complication.
The three you didn't list were Horus, Guilliman, and Jonson. These three had remarkably pure gene seed, particularly the 1st and 13th Legions. Before then Rangdan Xenocide, the 1st Legion was the largest legion by a large margin. After losing a large percentage of their Legion, they were a close second.
You had great information on the 19th though.
King Baldwin IV actually the World Eaters only went crazy after they met up with Angron who did to them what was done to him which is also why he went ape shit they all had the butcher's nails implanted in them, and Space wolves skin does turn thicker and more leathery over time
That is not a consistent trait for the 6th legion, at least during the Heresy.
One is a lie of omission, the other is a lie of commission. Both show a crap job.
So make some more great excuses for not doing a complete job, super. It is not insignificant if it is one of the clearly stated textual flaws.
This is a bad job. It represents incomplete research and the fact that the group has a poor handle on 40k.
Try Tactica Imperialis or 40K Theories, they don't botch simple videos.
King Baldwin IV "As a Space Wolf warrior grows older his hair turns course and wiry, turning a particular shade of grey, and his canines lengthen into true, wolf-like fangs. Even his skin becomes thicker and more leathery like a wolf pelt and all Space Wolf Marines are usually quite hirsuite. These traits in their fully matured form are usually emblematic of a Space Wolf who has become a Grey Hunter, " this has been the standard passage for the space wolf gene seed effects on a Space Wolf since I first started reading about 40k way back in the day
michaelkeha, good for you, it is apparently not canon.
Longfang is described very differently in Prospero Burns by the best author that GW has.
Jarl Og, Lord Gun, and others flatly deviate.
Added to that were the telltale descriptions of other more aged, senior wolves, and many Jarls. The descriptions do not comport with your description.
All of the wolves' eyes are yellow pinned with black as the standard.
This is my favorite lore channel.
:D Are they geneseed flaws? Or just happy accidents?
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Watching these videos makes me want to get models. The lore is amazing. Thanks guys
One mind Syndicate is my favorite daily TH-cam stop. You guys have really helped me grow the hobby
Question: do chainswords idle like a modern chain saw. Or do they spin up in an instant? Like an electric chain saw? Like wise do power/ force weapons make like lightsaber noises? My local group was playing a Deathwatch rpg game and the question came up while “sneaking”
Power weapons and chain weapons usually have to be turned on before going into battle and can be switched off by a single button press. As powe weapons look like a regular weapon with lightning arcing on it I would say that the crackle like sparks
Definitely liking the content. Looking forward to hopefully winning the Primaris Marines! Grew up watching my dad play, and watching my roommate make his own army now.
guys it's, 2am go to bed
jfwizard1 3 am here lol
5pm bro
jfwizard1 7 am here
Sheldon Goodfellow dude... Have you tried going to the doctor?
jfwizard1 I wish, but no can do at work rn
Well done for hitting 100k what a milestone.
For the emperor!!
Thanks for the dedication guys.
Of course the most flawed was ++comment redacted by the holy inquisition++.
You deserve each and every subscriber you have! Keep the good work. I'm looking forward for what's coming next
Ave Imperator
Ferrus Manus is the laziest damn name in the entire series. Ferrus Manus of the Iron Hands translates to Iron Hands of the Iron Hands. He's the fucking Moon Moon of the Warhammer 40k.
Omg I'm new to Warhammer and subscribed to your channel cuz I love the lore and I really hope I can win the know no fear set as I'm already planning on getting the first strike set.
H0rsemen0fDeath trust me, you can find so many other better channels to subscribe to than this one. They just read from the wiki and somehow still fuck things up. I'd recommend Vaults of Terra, Grimdark Narrator, Tactica Imperial, and 40k theories over this dumpster fire of a channel
Dunjee's Playhouse man you sure seem invested for someone who dislikes the channel so much
Not all fans like to show their love but at the end of the day they still enjoy our content.
Those are great lore channels.
thanks good luck
Know it’s a long shot but gonna try to win the starter set, one of my buddies and I started up playing warhammer 40k recently and he chose space marines as his army and I chose chaos for mine winning this would help save a lot of money for both of us. Love the videos and keep up the good work
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Roboto Gorillaman, as always, is perfect and never does anything wrong. Nice one, GW!
pretty sure girlyman's genetic flaw is 1. being a girlyman, 2. being glorious 3. feeling blue all the damn time
HERESY OF GREATES MAGNITUDES!!!! *Fyodor flayling the sword uncontrolably*
thanks for all the videos , love the 40 facts
Found your channel couple of days ago and already hooked, good work :)
Thanks for the amazong videos on the lore you put out :)
Loving the lore and 40k facts, keep up the good work
All interesting. For me I'd have to say the Blood Angels Red Thirst and Black Rage have to be my favorites. Talk about berserker, blood thirsty super humans running at you with no regard for themselves sounds terrifying. Whether fighting against or fighting on the same side. Having to witness that on the battlefield would truly be horrible. Probably for those fighting for the imperium; you would see the emperor's angels of death that resemble humans going crazy to bathe in the enemies blood, that would make anyone go insane.
honestly , the emperor , the primarch and the legions they command look like vampire the masquerade clans to me
Your comment is heresy
I love, how Guillimane is just Octavian, first emperor of the roman empire, upon a space-marine-body.
There is a good argument that Lion had very strong flaw which was being paranoid. Thats why his sons dont trust eachother at all, make secrets out of everything. Also its interesting story point that both splinter groups consider themselves to be the real Dark Angels and some think that people like Cypher may actually go with the real chapter plan (which is obviously super secret). Fallen Angels are not aware that Chaos is supporting them and messing with them.
Ferrus Manus did not have mechanized hands. His arms were covered with necrodermis (Necron living metal). It may be likely that his muscle and flesh was replaced by it over time, but it was never mechanized like his sons.
He did not attain this from an accident. He gained the metal from plunging Asirnoth, a greatwyrm that was made of necrodermis, into lava in order to kill it. His hands went down into the lava with it, but the necrodermis stuck to his flesh.
Ive been a big fan of dawn of war games for quite along time and that giveaway would actualy push me into figures
love all your content thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks for your amazing videos !!!
Hey if they're bringing back plastic sisters we can all keep secretly hoping for squats to make a comback
Congrats guys on 100k!!!!
Essentially the Imperial Fists chapter that had the flaw suffers from a genetic flaw of the ultimate form of depression.
Congrats on reaching 100k subs
I’m pretty sure that the imperial fists and their successors are also missing a few space marine organs, such as a betchis gland (acidic saliva) and susan membrane (suspended animation)
And before reuniting with fulgrim the emperors children had a flaw called the blight, which was replaced by a tendency to have their face resemble fulgrims after it was cured.
As for Horus (the one you missed) he had a similar flaw to the alpha legion and emperor’s children in which his sons would mutate to look almost identical to him. Such examples include Abadon the despoiler and Horus the lesser though it was stated that most of his legionnaires faces resembled his.
There are also multiple accounts of Alpha legionnaires being taller and bulkier then the average space marine, allowing alpharius, who was indeed a short primarch but still a primarch, to infiltrate their ranks undetected and blend in with his look-alike legion. There are also rumors of alpha legionnaires mutating and then using those mutations in combat like the black dragons and space wolves, but that could be the warp influencing them. And that’s not even mentioning Omegon.
And sure giliman and Johnson might not have flaws but it would’ve been nice if they were mentioned.
don't forget that Alpharius tampered with the Raven Guards geneseed so that when Coral would try to replenish his ranks almost all of his new Marines ended up with fatal mutations.
A fairly comprehensive list of the flaws. Keep them coming!
Is there any way to boost the pre-Primaris astartes' gene seeds.... as in to Primarize?
Congrats on 100k subscribers, OMS!
Hey guys awesome video! Keep up the amazing work. You guys are awesome!
don't the fists also lack the belcher's gland, meaning they don't have acid spit
and they are also unable to enter stasis sleep, making them unable to warp travel?
Wasn´t the Betchers glands fault together with that deep sleep thing part of the damages of Dorns seed and not Corvuses?
The art of Corax at 17:05 always freaks me out everytime I see it. His long hair just flowing in the breeze..... near the active intakes of his jumpack that could suck in his hair at any moment.
Congratulations on the 100k plus subscribers!
The Imperial Fists don't suffer from genetic degradation but through misadventure have lost the Betcher's Gland and Sus-An Membrane from their suite of gene seed. This has, to my knowledge, been due to those particular implants being lost over time due to battlefield losses leading to lower and lower recovery rates for those glands until they were no longer viable.
Love the videos as always!
ferrus' arms were covered in necrodermis not mechanical. the fists had the genetic flaw of not being able to spit acid. and the night lords had a tendency to albinism with black eyes after seed implantation.
Weren't the Fists missing the Betchers gland? And the membrane that allowed for suspended animation? Or am I high?
Thanks for the great content guys.
Another great lore video. Question: could you guys do a lore video on your armies?