I'm just now getting advertisements from Sig like this gun is brand new but obviously your video has been out for a month and since I've seen your video I had been looking for it and I couldn't find it anywhere until here just the last day or two
As an XM owner who also owns XL's this is not suprising. In many ways this is like putting an XM grip module and 17 round mag on an existing XL . I do like the forward placement of the optics cut and like retaining the rear site on the XM and newer version. I'm ambivalent on the magwell. You can add that to any XM grip module but it only emphasizes the grip which some people complain as too big already. Gotta wonder if the XM and now the new Tac Opsa won't cannibalize the 320 compact and 320 Carry models.
I actually love the mag well because my XL size hand fits perfectly with it. The bottom of my hand ends right when the magwell ends. If it wasn't there I would definitely pinch. The co-witness SS sights made it so I didn't even have to zero at the range. Everything else is exactly the same as an XL slide on a XM frame.
The built in comp was genius. They are no doubt proven to help shoot flatter and stay on target as well as get simultaneous shots off more rapidly. It would only help you in a life or death situation. Fifty extra bucks to increase my percentages of hitting my target in a life or death situation is cheap for me.
It's actually 749.99 and comes with 4 mags. Not sure how he got it for 630 and only 3 mags. Perhaps an early release? I would gladly pay 120 less for one less mag.
Where the heck did you find it for $630? The cheapest I could find it by me (DFW, Texas) was $750. Mine came with 4 mags vs 3 but that’s only a $50 difference. It did have a $60 rebate in the form of a $60 credit to the sig web store. I guess if you figure that in plus the extra mag that would get it down to around $640. I shot both the X Macro and the Macro Tacops and for me there wasn’t a noticeable improvement from the comp.
I'm glad they provided a rebate because the $750 price tag was to much compared to the price I paid that only came with one less mag. I was able to get mine a month or two before the Tac Ops four pack was released and for some reason only my gun store has this version. Can't find it anywhere else. My SN comes back as a law enforcement only package but I'm not law enforcement or military so I'm not sure why Sig even produced this version. 🤷♂
@@clutchmaster_ I got the same service/law enforcement version fof the same price. I'm extremly happy with the purchase and value! Not to mention the pistol is amazing!!!
I got one. The Sig Sauer P365 XMacro TACOPS 17+1 is truly the finest. What surprised the most is how accurate it is. I installed a Vortex Defender CCW 6 MOA. I am extremely happy with it.
Cool, I like the fact that the barrel is longer on the tac opps. I'd like to see a Chronograph/Jell tes with the tac opps and the x macro comp. Just sayin
I bought mine through the blue shield program and it was in this same configuration and with the 3rd magazine. I had the option for standard height sights or the suppressor height…. I went with the standard height because I put a holosun 507k green dot. I was very happy with these modifications because I did not want the compensator on a self defense firearm.
Sig should have offered this with a threaded barrel. If you're going to remove the compensator and make the iron sights suppressor height, you should thread the barrel.
i could be wrong, but i think you got the law enforcement version, since the tacops isnt out yet, the law enforcement version has a w in front of the scu or item number, and the LE version is around $600, the tacops is supposed to be closer to 800 like the first macro
It is a bit strange because my local gun store also had the same kit but the romeo zero was included for a price tag of $780 from factory. Its for sure the new macro but with 3 mags instead of 4. Not sure what package I got but I'm happy with the gun and the price.
Ya I saw the same video. Still not sure if he was wrong or I was shorted a mag or maybe I picked up a unicorn 😆Still no info on this and is not yet post on the Sig website. Crazy part is I purchased this on the 11th way before Shot show and they're not even supposed to ship out for another 2 weeks!
Where did you find the P365 XMacro Tacops for 630? It's actually 750 and officially comes with 4 Magazines not 3. Perhaps yours is an early release? But all the XMacro Tacops I have seen are 750 and come with 4 mags. But I will gladly pay 630 for one less mag. If you can direct me to the gun store your purchased it from I will gladly place my order today.
@@clutchmaster_ Google shows it as law enforcement only at a couple of places. Hopefully it's sold soon because Sig said should be out in about 2 weeks around $750. $630 is a steal
That's exactly what is. Just an xl slide on a macro frame. The suppressor sights, magwell, and extended slide release is the only difference but not a huge difference.
I think I’ll get this version and send the slide and barrel to monsoon tactical to do the lucky seven port and then wait for an Icarus Precision grip module to become available.
That would be a nice build! The precision grip module is an amazing grip but I will be going a different route. Stay tuned to see what I do with this thing!
Well done video and comparisons .Have to do some thinking now. Just shot a range rental 365XL last week to get a feel of it. Definitely a longer grip is needed. Where can a person buy a manual safety for the macro?
@@drossi101 Very good question! I am 67 years old and started shooting 54 years ago. During all of the shooting classes that I took, starting out with Daisy BB gun 15' local and state competitions, it was pounded into us to Keep Your Finger On The Safety until you are ready to fire, then take the safety off only then. A few years later I started pheasant hunting I always had the safety on and finger on the safety until I was ready to fire. So today, all of my 34 pistols, rifles and shotguns all have a manual safety.
No you are correct! I made a mistake. I ended up going with the EPS carry. The 407c was still a great deal so now I have to get something to put it on 😆
Pretty decent gun for being scaled up. I'll have to find somewhere to shoot one of these. I recently got a Canik Rival for my first, and waiting on a shield plus to carry. I'd love to get a suppressor sometime but it's like buy a suppressor or another guy to start a little collection lol
Yes its is! I really like it because I have XL size hands. I have the link for the grip posted in my newest video. I bought one for the macro and my p365 original. They can be a pain to install but I will make a TH-cam short of how to do it.
Same. I've been having buyer's remorse for jumping on it so early before all the upgrades came in. Still a good gun to throw in the IWB when I'm running to the store, I suppose.
Hey Roman! I purchased mine from my local gun store bulldogfirearmsnm.com/. It was labeled as a p365x. SCU # W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS. I would recommend calling them and asking for the p365x with macro frame. There is also a variation that comes with a factory Romeo Zero.
Not officially released yet. Some lgs might have it already but this is also a LE Version. At shot show im pretty sure they said it was supposed to release with 4 mags.. should be officially released sometime this month
My SKU is W365CA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS but comes up as law enforcement only. Not sure why because i'm a civilian. Seems like Sig has yet to fully release this version but I know its coming soon.
The true question is it worth the extra $170 for the "integrated" comp version. Id rather buy a barrel and comp for $300 and it not be "integrated" and that's exactly what I did. Comp or not video coming soon!
@@clutchmaster_ thanks alot! Also, can civilians purchase this model? I found it in stock at several FFLs but it's labeled as " LE Only ". Thanks again
@@osbonator500 I am a civilian. I think the issue is that it hasn't officially released yet. The Sig reps talked about it at Shot show and said it would be released in a couple weeks.
FYI to those wondering. Looks like you can’t order them after sig custom site. But Sega supposed to be releasing these to the public in like a week or two. Really excited I got to hold a 365X macro and it is a charm.
Ya, I'm still not sure what version I got but it is for sure the new x-macro version. The weird part is the Sig reps said it would come with 4 mags. Mine came with 3 and that seems to be the only difference.
My local gun store has them bulldogfirearmsnm.com. They also have the Romeo included version too for $780. I will try to get more information from them on how to order it.
Everyone thinks I got the LE version because literally the only difference is 1 mag and I paid $630 when the "Tac Ops" is $830. They can keep the fourth mag for that price difference 🤣
After further research it seems I got a rare package that only my gun store had access to before the Tac Ops package was officially released. I paid $630 for this package.
TLR 6 light/ laser combo. Fitment is really nice and super secure because it goes around the trigger guard. Haven't tested it yet but I originally got it just for the wifey to use the laser but having the light is nice too. I will make a video of my recommended original p365 top upgrades soon.
The 365 XL with Romeo zero slide comes with the suppressor height sights. Maybe the gun shop put the fcu and slide into a macro frame? That would explain no comp. Either way nice find!
If you actually got the 407C, you have the wrong optic for that gun. It's too big and the wrong footprint. What you need is the 407K. That the narrow version with the modified RMSc footpring. The P365 uses that exact footprint.
@@jessfarias8156 also the magwell is a nice feature but to be honest the extended slide release is so nice considering from factory everything is so stiff.
@@bukbaki3937 There is little to no information out about this yet and is not on the Sig Sauer site yet but a rep from Sig at Shot show called it the "p365 x-macro Tac Ops". The rep also said it would come with 4 mags so things are still some what of a mystery.
@@bukbaki3937 Should be out in the next couple weeks. At least that's what the Sig rep said at Shot show. I will make a shooting video of it next asap. Still haven't taken her out for a spin yet.
@@clutchmaster_ looked it up, seems like LE only. I’m gonna reach out to see how the go about that, I would like this set up for my daily carry and prefer not having the comp. Thank you for sharing bud
My local gun store has them bulldogfirearmsnm.com. They also have the Romeo included version too for $780. I will try to get more information from them on how to order it.
@@clutchmaster_ Do you think they sold you a dealer showroom gun that's been in circulation at Shot Show or something? The Tac Ops is supposed to come with 4 mags and supposedly will sell for $750-800. I'll let them keep one magazine if it drops it to $630 💩
@@SYKOK1LLER I'm not quite sure what is going on because all of the specs and new features are the same. The only difference is I got 3 mags and the tac ops is reported to come with 4. Even my SN on the box comes up with a law enforcement SN. The even stranger part is my local gun shop had the same gun with also 3 mags and came with factory romeo zero. I almost bought it just because its so hard to find.
@ClutchMaster next version will have it, that way, this one is your second after the comped one, and you can get a third with threads. The next one comes with night vision, sig brand of course. I get the marketing but they should have led with this
The X-Macro makes the most sense if you don't already have a 365 and want to actually make most of the modularity. Grip frames are cheap, so you can get a shorter frame for cheap, you already have the short barrel, so pick up a 365x slide and you've got a short slide to match it for more concealability. Want a longer barrel and better comp, just get a threaded barrel and comp. It ends up the cheapest way to have the most options for the 365 to make the most use of the modularity of the FCU
I looked into all of this for my p365 and decided for $630 I could modify my 365 or just have a whole new gun. I love the modularity but upgrades add up quick and then I have a bunch of extra parts laying around with no use.
@@clutchmaster_ It doesn't make sense if you already have a 365, but for someone that doesn't, it can be pretty cost effective. Use the X-Macro slide and grip module with a threaded barrel, PL350 light, a comp with the +4 base pads from Tactical Development Group and you've got something to put on your battle belt. Swap grip modules to an X with a TLR7 SUB and the barrel and slide the Macro comes with and you've got something for your EDC. Take the light off and swap to the shorter 365 slide and you've got something for deep concealment. It's cheaper than getting 3 guns for those 3 different roles It saves money, and in states that make it really hard to actually buy multiple guns, it means having more capabilities with less headaches
@@pdxmarine1430 I have an XM. Like you i decided since i don't own any 365's that the XM was the way to go. So i bought one and love it! One thing you said I noticed wasn't correct though. You cannot put a longer barrel in the XM slide. There is a lip in the slide that mates up with the end of the 3.1" barrel. If you bought an XM and wanted to go longer barrel you would also need to buy an XL slide to do so.
@@nickadkins7765 Oh crap, I didn't realize that you couldn't stick a longer barrel in it. That kind of breaks my whole idea of it being the most cost effective 365 to get for maximum customization. Looks like the way to go would be an XL if you're looking for the most options for the lowest price. You'd need the XL itself, a threaded barrel and comp and Macro grip module for a "duty-ish" carry setup, and an X slide and barrel for a short deep conceal setup(and maybe an OG 365 for an even shorter grip)
@@chrisharris9710 because the macro grip helps more than the macro "comp" in controlling recoil, don't believe me? Then try this, take a macro and an XL and swap slides, the macro will STILL be easier to control even though the "comp" is now on the smaller frame. Also with the Macro you're already stepping into a realm that's very close to a P320 or G19 size gun but with the "comp" you're still only getting micro pistol ballistics because the barrel is the same length as the original P365. If I'm going to carry a larger handgun (which I do happily) I damn sure want better ballistics out of it rather than a *maybe* 5% improvement to overall recoil. The comp is mostly for show and the "cool guy" factor, an actual barrel mounted compensator would be a much better option OR an actual ported barrel and slide combo rather than just a short barrel with a "blast chamber" machines into the slide. Compensators work based on pressure, the more pressure you have inside the compensator the more effect your going to get out of it, this is why +P ammo tends to have even less felt recoil with a comp than standard ammo. The "blast chamber" on the comp'd slide loses a huge amount of this "useful pressure" by waiting until the glasses have already left the barrel and are under MUCH less pressure. If people like the comp'd slide, then that's fine, that's their right. But most of them don't realize the grip is actually doing most of the work in reducing muzzle rise.
@@Kross8761 I’ve done everything you said in the first paragraph, and I still prefer the comped slide. IMO the grip module helps with recoil, but the comp is doing the most work. The XL module felt much better to me with the macro slide. I do understand, and have factored in, the larger module though. I did all of this the week the macro dropped. I don’t think I include all of that in my video on the macro, but I did pin a comment speaking to that on that video over at my channel, Harris Arms. I get what you’re saying in the second paragraph and really don’t have any problem with that opinion. It makes sense. To me that doesn’t justify a “much better” label. “Better for me” sure, but not just an objectively stated “much better”. The comp is definitely not just for show. It shines better with heavy and higher pressure ammunition, so if you’ve just ran some 115 FMJs through it it hasn’t reached potential. But it’s not like a Radian Ramjet either. IMO the 15-18% reduction number is a good general area to put the performance though, which in a category as snappy as the micro 9mm category is, is a big win in my book. I will also agree that a lot of people have said they would not prefer the comp. I have a good friend I shoot with that says that. But again, to me that doesn’t justify objectively stating it’s “much better”. It fills a desire for a lot of people. But there are a lot of people on the other side as well. Bottom line, the Macro is a great EDC option, either iteration. Whether one finds the first or second iteration to be the “best” is at the end of the day subjective.
@@chrisharris9710 lol thats your bottom line, not "the" bottom line. I, and others, disagree. I view the comp as entirely needless on a 9mm caliber, while adding a possible failure point. Especially on a gun meant specifically for carry, i dont need extra holes to collect link & debris. I value reliability in a firearm over anything else, meaning to me the non comped version is definitely the much better one of the two. Which is exactly what i said in the first comment. I guess my opinion made you feel the need to write a paragraph response. Sorry that you had to cope with someone not agreeing with your choice in firearm. That must be really hard on you-
The comp has always been a big debate. Let me know if you want me to put a comp on this. I haven't shot the macro but I hear it makes up to a 20% difference in handling. What I think makes this package "better" is the price, extra mag, and the extended slide release because these small sigs come factory stiff. Just that tiny amount of extra real-estate makes it so much easier to drop the slide out of box.
That's how they should have launched the macro
I agree! Sig did things differently this time with the xmacro. Which was smart because they sold a ton of the compensated version.
Who wouldn't want the comp version?
People who want to shoot suppressed don’t want the compensated version, and yes, people shoot smaller guns suppressed
@@mattysee24 I personally rather have this version with the 3.7" and comp it myself then buy the slide integrated comp.
It was all about selling the one that cost more first.
The magwell is a nice addition considering that most aftermarket companies make them in the ~$80 price range.
I do like the magwell and the fact that the mag isn't flush but still sticks out just enough.
I'm just now getting advertisements from Sig like this gun is brand new but obviously your video has been out for a month and since I've seen your video I had been looking for it and I couldn't find it anywhere until here just the last day or two
As an XM owner who also owns XL's this is not suprising. In many ways this is like putting an XM grip module and 17 round mag on an existing XL . I do like the forward placement of the optics cut and like retaining the rear site on the XM and newer version. I'm ambivalent on the magwell. You can add that to any XM grip module but it only emphasizes the grip which some people complain as too big already. Gotta wonder if the XM and now the new Tac Opsa won't cannibalize the 320 compact and 320 Carry models.
I actually love the mag well because my XL size hand fits perfectly with it. The bottom of my hand ends right when the magwell ends. If it wasn't there I would definitely pinch. The co-witness SS sights made it so I didn't even have to zero at the range. Everything else is exactly the same as an XL slide on a XM frame.
I’ve got the same one except mine doesn’t have the suppressor height sites and I love it!
The built in comp was genius. They are no doubt proven to help shoot flatter and stay on target as well as get simultaneous shots off more rapidly. It would only help you in a life or death situation. Fifty extra bucks to increase my percentages of hitting my target in a life or death situation is cheap for me.
$630! With the sights, mag well, extended release. Not that bad of a price point for what Sig usually up charges. Ohh forgot about the extra mag to.
Great price point! You can also get the package with a romeo on it for $780!
If only sig red dots weren’t trash and scratch so easily
@@mforge348 In my newest video I talk about how the Holosun has much better picture compared to the Romeo.
I haven’t seen it for less than $750 😢
It's actually 749.99 and comes with 4 mags. Not sure how he got it for 630 and only 3 mags. Perhaps an early release? I would gladly pay 120 less for one less mag.
Where the heck did you find it for $630? The cheapest I could find it by me (DFW, Texas) was $750. Mine came with 4 mags vs 3 but that’s only a $50 difference. It did have a $60 rebate in the form of a $60 credit to the sig web store. I guess if you figure that in plus the extra mag that would get it down to around $640.
I shot both the X Macro and the Macro Tacops and for me there wasn’t a noticeable improvement from the comp.
I'm glad they provided a rebate because the $750 price tag was to much compared to the price I paid that only came with one less mag. I was able to get mine a month or two before the Tac Ops four pack was released and for some reason only my gun store has this version. Can't find it anywhere else. My SN comes back as a law enforcement only package but I'm not law enforcement or military so I'm not sure why Sig even produced this version. 🤷♂
@@clutchmaster_ I got the same service/law enforcement version fof the same price. I'm extremly happy with the purchase and value! Not to mention the pistol is amazing!!!
LE Version..You lucked out that they sold it to you...Nice Find
I got one. The Sig Sauer P365 XMacro TACOPS 17+1 is truly the finest. What surprised the most is how accurate it is. I installed a Vortex Defender CCW 6 MOA. I am extremely happy with it.
How do you like the defender?
@@jeromydehaan4991 so far, excellent!
Does the tacops also have an “extended” or easier to reach mag release on top of the slide release being extended?
@@yeetskeetdelete7192 Yes, it is a bit meatier, but the pistol is built very tight, so it is hard to get the slide released. No big deal.
Taller sights but no threaded barrel?
Cool, I like the fact that the barrel is longer on the tac opps. I'd like to see a Chronograph/Jell tes with the tac opps and the x macro comp. Just sayin
I love it, I'd buy one I'm just waiting on a manual safety option.
Tested the Tacops grip module & mag. $220 upgrade.
100% will stick with my Boba Fett XL. Beyond good enough.
407c is going to look huge on there and you will need a plate, the K model is the direct bolt on 1.
Oops! Good looking out! That's also great news because now I have to get something to fit the 407c to. 😆
Yeah, I like the fact that you dont need a plate. Looking to get the 407k for my 365X
@@ResplendentRaider I ended up paying the $400 for the eps carry green and love it! Very expensive but worth it.
I bought mine through the blue shield program and it was in this same configuration and with the 3rd magazine. I had the option for standard height sights or the suppressor height…. I went with the standard height because I put a holosun 507k green dot. I was very happy with these modifications because I did not want the compensator on a self defense firearm.
Where did you buy that tacpac? Can you send the info for the shop?
Any word if Wilson Combat will make a Macro grip module? Great video. I might have to wait for this.
Not that I know of but they should! Macros are big right now.
They will.
Sig should have offered this with a threaded barrel. If you're going to remove the compensator and make the iron sights suppressor height, you should thread the barrel.
I strongly agree! I just ordered a barrel and comp so we will see how it goes.
I'd rather have it with standard sights. My macro has like a lower 1/8 cowitness with the eps carry. It's perfect.
Great review in succinct video. Well done.
Much appreciated!
i could be wrong, but i think you got the law enforcement version, since the tacops isnt out yet, the law enforcement version has a w in front of the scu or item number, and the LE version is around $600, the tacops is supposed to be closer to 800 like the first macro
It is a bit strange because my local gun store also had the same kit but the romeo zero was included for a price tag of $780 from factory. Its for sure the new macro but with 3 mags instead of 4. Not sure what package I got but I'm happy with the gun and the price.
Do you know the SKU for the LE version? This LE version seems like a better deal. Is it only available to LE?
@@JayyBird93 it is only available to qualified professionals, proven outfitters has eligibility requirements on their website
That just makes it a 365 xl with flared magwell
I have looked everywhere trying to find a hogue grip cover for the Xm. Still can't find one, but you say its on Amazon for $ 15. Really?
I cant find this anywhere. Local or online.
Agree u chose the better option with this version
It is really nice! Only thing they could do better is the trigger.
Plus with the 3.7” barrel you will get a little more energy out of the muzzle fwiw.
Not even sure how guys got this already
I saw on a video a sig rep from shot show said the tac ops shoulda came with 4 mags
Ya I saw the same video. Still not sure if he was wrong or I was shorted a mag or maybe I picked up a unicorn 😆Still no info on this and is not yet post on the Sig website. Crazy part is I purchased this on the 11th way before Shot show and they're not even supposed to ship out for another 2 weeks!
I looked up the number you provided, it says you got a Police setup. With the 3 mags. Good job love the gun
Where did you find the P365 XMacro Tacops for 630? It's actually 750 and officially comes with 4 Magazines not 3. Perhaps yours is an early release? But all the XMacro Tacops I have seen are 750 and come with 4 mags. But I will gladly pay 630 for one less mag. If you can direct me to the gun store your purchased it from I will gladly place my order today.
He got tthe LE (Law Enforcement) model thats why its that cheap.
The Macro micro!😂
Thanks for posting do you have the model number I don’t see it on Sigs website?
Ya no one can find any information anywhere on it yet but this is what my box says as far as model number. W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS
@@clutchmaster_ Google shows it as law enforcement only at a couple of places. Hopefully it's sold soon because Sig said should be out in about 2 weeks around $750.
$630 is a steal
Does anyone know where I can get a holster for the TACOPS I can not seem to find one
I should have waited a little bit longer. I wound up buying an XL and a macro grip and mags to make this same setup.
That's exactly what is. Just an xl slide on a macro frame. The suppressor sights, magwell, and extended slide release is the only difference but not a huge difference.
I put a Macro grip on my XL. Love it.
I think I’ll get this version and send the slide and barrel to monsoon tactical to do the lucky seven port and then wait for an Icarus Precision grip module to become available.
That would be a nice build! The precision grip module is an amazing grip but I will be going a different route. Stay tuned to see what I do with this thing!
@@clutchmaster_ I can’t wait to see what you do.
Well done video and comparisons .Have to do some thinking now. Just shot a range rental 365XL last week to get a feel of it. Definitely a longer grip is needed. Where can a person buy a manual safety for the macro?
Manual safety would be an aftermarket feature. This might just be the gun for you. Check out the video I just posted!
Why on earth would you add an aftermarket safety
@@drossi101 Very good question! I am 67 years old and started shooting 54 years ago. During all of the shooting classes that I took, starting out with Daisy BB gun 15' local and state competitions, it was pounded into us to Keep Your Finger On The Safety until you are ready to fire, then take the safety off only then. A few years later I started pheasant hunting I always had the safety on and finger on the safety until I was ready to fire. So today, all of my 34 pistols, rifles and shotguns all have a manual safety.
I might be mistaken, but i think you needed 407k for your optic cut and not the 407c...
No you are correct! I made a mistake. I ended up going with the EPS carry. The 407c was still a great deal so now I have to get something to put it on 😆
@ClutchMaster was it a direct fit? Or did you need a mounting plate?
Thanks for the video. What's the SKU? I keep searching for it and come up with the comp one. 🔥
I don't think they're released yet but my SKU is W365xCA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS.
@@clutchmaster_ thanks!
What store? That's a good price
Pretty decent gun for being scaled up. I'll have to find somewhere to shoot one of these. I recently got a Canik Rival for my first, and waiting on a shield plus to carry. I'd love to get a suppressor sometime but it's like buy a suppressor or another guy to start a little collection lol
I've got my eyes on the new Canik Rival SS. I think I have to get it.
What’s your take on accuracy of the the comp vs the Tacops? Does the comp have the extended slide release as well?
Tacops is better hands down I own both lol
Not 4 mags?
Is that the Hogue Handall grip sleeve for a P365xl? It looks good on an X-Macro; been thinking about getting one for mine.
Yes its is! I really like it because I have XL size hands. I have the link for the grip posted in my newest video. I bought one for the macro and my p365 original. They can be a pain to install but I will make a TH-cam short of how to do it.
Makes me regret getting the comp just a month ago
The comp version still handles beautifully but I do think it should of been a little cheaper than what it is and should of come with 3 mags.
Same. I've been having buyer's remorse for jumping on it so early before all the upgrades came in. Still a good gun to throw in the IWB when I'm running to the store, I suppose.
Can we get the information to the shop you gat that one from?
Hey Roman! I purchased mine from my local gun store bulldogfirearmsnm.com/. It was labeled as a p365x. SCU # W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS. I would recommend calling them and asking for the p365x with macro frame. There is also a variation that comes with a factory Romeo Zero.
@@clutchmaster_ great thanks for the information.
Nice may be my next purchase
Have you been carrying this? Any rust??
I'm also interested to know this. The rusting issue is the only thing stopping me from getting one if these.
Why isn't this handgun on the Sig website?
Not officially released yet. Some lgs might have it already but this is also a LE Version. At shot show im pretty sure they said it was supposed to release with 4 mags.. should be officially released sometime this month
Do you have the SKU# for this? I can’t find it anywhere online and it’s not even on the Sig site yet.
My SKU is W365CA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS but comes up as law enforcement only. Not sure why because i'm a civilian. Seems like Sig has yet to fully release this version but I know its coming soon.
@@clutchmaster_ Thanks for the info! I guess I’ll just hold off until it’s officially released and my local shops have some inventory.
Oooooooweeee time for an upgrade! Price is good too.
The price is right! 💲💲💲
Why haven’t they updated the regular P365 with an optics cut yet? It genuinely confuses me
They did. Its the p365 SAS model.
Thanks for the video. What is that awesome grip add-on? Do they come in the P365X size?
Ya just search Hogue p365 grip on Amazon. I Got one for the macro and my original p365.
As someone who owns both the XM and XL, this is viable for someone who didn't buy an original XM.
I think its the way to go and you could always comp later with an actual comp instead of "integrated" which I just might do for fun.
Where would you find this package?
Should be in a store near you in the next couple of weeks maybe sooner.
@@clutchmaster_ Ok thanks!
@@jimjon6588 This has been in shops around me for a couple weeks now
What’s crazy is you get way more value with this macro and it costs less than the previous one.
The true question is it worth the extra $170 for the "integrated" comp version. Id rather buy a barrel and comp for $300 and it not be "integrated" and that's exactly what I did. Comp or not video coming soon!
I believe the tacops should have 4 mags
Can you provide the UPC for it? I'd like to check my local stores if they have one in stock
W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS
@@clutchmaster_ thanks alot! Also, can civilians purchase this model? I found it in stock at several FFLs but it's labeled as " LE Only ". Thanks again
@@osbonator500 I am a civilian. I think the issue is that it hasn't officially released yet. The Sig reps talked about it at Shot show and said it would be released in a couple weeks.
I just bought that grip
Just curious where to find this package? Much better deal
Should be in all store in a week or two.
you dont use a grip on your regular 365 ? What brand of grip is that ?
I just added the Hogue grip to the regular p365 and made a youtube short install video. Check it out!
So, has anyone seen any for sale yet? It's been about 2 weeks since they said it would arrive but I don't see it online.
I've also seen the Romeo version at my local gun store but not sure why they're not shipping everywhere else.
Can you order these from somewhere online? I’ve been looking for this exact build
FYI to those wondering. Looks like you can’t order them after sig custom site. But Sega supposed to be releasing these to the public in like a week or two. Really excited I got to hold a 365X macro and it is a charm.
Ya, I'm still not sure what version I got but it is for sure the new x-macro version. The weird part is the Sig reps said it would come with 4 mags. Mine came with 3 and that seems to be the only difference.
My local gun store has them bulldogfirearmsnm.com. They also have the Romeo included version too for $780. I will try to get more information from them on how to order it.
@@clutchmaster_ thank you!
Mine came with 4 mags
You should have gotten 4 magazines with your Tac Ops Macro brother.
Everyone thinks I got the LE version because literally the only difference is 1 mag and I paid $630 when the "Tac Ops" is $830. They can keep the fourth mag for that price difference 🤣
Does it rust
At this point, I'm just waiting for a 5 inch version.
Probably be more like 4.25”, but yeah same.
Sig 365xxxl mega macro II p pro plus
That's what your wife said
When did this come out trying to find it
I got mine from my local gun store. Sig doesn't have it posted on their website yet but it should be everywhere soon.
Mine came with 4 mags!!!
After further research it seems I got a rare package that only my gun store had access to before the Tac Ops package was officially released. I paid $630 for this package.
What's the light under the regular p365?
TLR 6 light/ laser combo. Fitment is really nice and super secure because it goes around the trigger guard. Haven't tested it yet but I originally got it just for the wifey to use the laser but having the light is nice too. I will make a video of my recommended original p365 top upgrades soon.
@@clutchmaster_ very nice! I have the 7a under mine and love it.
Which aftermarket grip are you using?
Hogue grip. There should be a link in the description. I run Hogue on everything because of my large hands.
Thanks@@clutchmaster_
The X Macro has a compensated barrel and that one doesn't.
Correct. This is also an x macro with a couple of added upgrades but not compensated which means its the 3.7 in barrel instead of the 3.1.
The barrel isn’t compensated the slide is
Got 4 mags with mine.
Ya this version dropped months before the 4 mag package.
I’m running 507k on mine…. That’s the way to go for a slim pistol
Green or red?
@@clutchmaster_ I have the red but I do prefer green
@@gregc8533 🏃That's me running to the shop tomorrow to get one
Same! Love the dot and circle reticle! Along with the streamlight tlr7 sub I have 500 rds through it and going strong without issue
The 365 XL with Romeo zero slide comes with the suppressor height sights. Maybe the gun shop put the fcu and slide into a macro frame? That would explain no comp. Either way nice find!
This is the next version of the x-macro. It was just released at 2023 Shot show and should be in stores near you soon!
What store has this available ?
I got mine from my local gun store. I haven't seen it anywhere else but it should be in stores everywhere soon.
what was the name of the gun shop please?
bulldogfirearmsnm.com/
I cant find this sku or package anywhere
It is very confusing considering it is the new x-macro but with 3 mags. The Sig reps at Shot show said it would come with 4 mags.
Yeah not a big fan of the compensator either....like longer barrel and more velocity
If you actually got the 407C, you have the wrong optic for that gun. It's too big and the wrong footprint. What you need is the 407K. That the narrow version with the modified RMSc footpring. The P365 uses that exact footprint.
Should have got a p320 because you are now in the 320 size
Still thinner than a p320
The Tacops is supposed to come with 4 mags. Sounds like your gun store screwed you.
When will this come out?
Should be in stores everywhere in the next two weeks. Still not sure how I got one so early.
@@clutchmaster_ ok great! Thanks for replying so quick, I’ll make sure to subscribe and like the vid.
@@clutchmaster_ great vid btw!
@@jimjon6588 Thank you for your support! 🙏
@@clutchmaster_ no problem!
Just made my next purchase for me!
I personally love this purchase for $630. Threw a Holosun EPS Carry green on it and it shoots like a dream. New shooting video coming soon!
@@clutchmaster_ the extra mag and longer barrel and the cheaper price sold me!
@@jessfarias8156 also the magwell is a nice feature but to be honest the extended slide release is so nice considering from factory everything is so stiff.
@@clutchmaster_ where did you find it? Struggling to locate it online to purchase?
$170 is actually a good price for a compensator.
True if you consider 2 CNC cuts in a slide a compensator.
Hah, I got four magazines with mine non comp x macro.
Where did you find that
I got lucky and found this at my local gun store before they where even announced.
So what is it supposed to be called cmaro no comp or tacpac
@@bukbaki3937 There is little to no information out about this yet and is not on the Sig Sauer site yet but a rep from Sig at Shot show called it the "p365 x-macro Tac Ops". The rep also said it would come with 4 mags so things are still some what of a mystery.
Thx I've been looking for it but these names aren't out yet
@@bukbaki3937 Should be out in the next couple weeks. At least that's what the Sig rep said at Shot show. I will make a shooting video of it next asap. Still haven't taken her out for a spin yet.
+ Damage
- Recoil Control
+ Reserve Ammo
Think I should slap a barrel and comp on it?
UPC?
W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZP-SNS
@@clutchmaster_ looked it up, seems like LE only. I’m gonna reach out to see how the go about that, I would like this set up for my daily carry and prefer not having the comp. Thank you for sharing bud
@@TheReal_FJB find anything out?
I never liked the comp for esthetic reasons, also they're bugging with that $800+ dollar price tag.
$630 for this kit is definitely reasonable and the right price for me. Check out the review video I just posted on it!
If yours came with three mags, someone held out on you. It comes with four mags…
I’m glad I saw this because that dumbass comp was the reason I wasn’t going to buy it.
For $170 dollar more than the tac ops you can have two cuts in your slide and a shorter barrel. We call it the "integrated" comp 🤣
$630?? Where and how?
My local gun store has them bulldogfirearmsnm.com. They also have the Romeo included version too for $780. I will try to get more information from them on how to order it.
@@clutchmaster_ Do you think they sold you a dealer showroom gun that's been in circulation at Shot Show or something? The Tac Ops is supposed to come with 4 mags and supposedly will sell for $750-800. I'll let them keep one magazine if it drops it to $630 💩
@@SYKOK1LLER I'm not quite sure what is going on because all of the specs and new features are the same. The only difference is I got 3 mags and the tac ops is reported to come with 4. Even my SN on the box comes up with a law enforcement SN. The even stranger part is my local gun shop had the same gun with also 3 mags and came with factory romeo zero. I almost bought it just because its so hard to find.
17 rd mags are $60, most sig mags are $50
Ya that's too much money Sig!
never seen a tac ops pistol come without a threaded barrel
For some reason they chose not to do a threaded barrel this time. No comment from sig reps on why.
@ClutchMaster next version will have it, that way, this one is your second after the comped one, and you can get a third with threads. The next one comes with night vision, sig brand of course.
I get the marketing but they should have led with this
@@travistucker7317 That sounds exactly like Sig. 🤣 I just got my comp and am waiting on the barrel to get here. Comp or not video coming soon!
@ClutchMaster you know it. Looking forward to it.
Just paid $900 out the door for mine🤦🏽♂️
Tacops, not tacpac
Tac OPS should have 4 mags
The X-Macro makes the most sense if you don't already have a 365 and want to actually make most of the modularity.
Grip frames are cheap, so you can get a shorter frame for cheap, you already have the short barrel, so pick up a 365x slide and you've got a short slide to match it for more concealability. Want a longer barrel and better comp, just get a threaded barrel and comp.
It ends up the cheapest way to have the most options for the 365 to make the most use of the modularity of the FCU
I looked into all of this for my p365 and decided for $630 I could modify my 365 or just have a whole new gun. I love the modularity but upgrades add up quick and then I have a bunch of extra parts laying around with no use.
@@clutchmaster_ It doesn't make sense if you already have a 365, but for someone that doesn't, it can be pretty cost effective. Use the X-Macro slide and grip module with a threaded barrel, PL350 light, a comp with the +4 base pads from Tactical Development Group and you've got something to put on your battle belt.
Swap grip modules to an X with a TLR7 SUB and the barrel and slide the Macro comes with and you've got something for your EDC.
Take the light off and swap to the shorter 365 slide and you've got something for deep concealment.
It's cheaper than getting 3 guns for those 3 different roles
It saves money, and in states that make it really hard to actually buy multiple guns, it means having more capabilities with less headaches
@@pdxmarine1430 I have an XM. Like you i decided since i don't own any 365's that the XM was the way to go. So i bought one and love it! One thing you said I noticed wasn't correct though. You cannot put a longer barrel in the XM slide. There is a lip in the slide that mates up with the end of the 3.1" barrel. If you bought an XM and wanted to go longer barrel you would also need to buy an XL slide to do so.
@@nickadkins7765 Oh crap, I didn't realize that you couldn't stick a longer barrel in it. That kind of breaks my whole idea of it being the most cost effective 365 to get for maximum customization.
Looks like the way to go would be an XL if you're looking for the most options for the lowest price.
You'd need the XL itself, a threaded barrel and comp and Macro grip module for a "duty-ish" carry setup, and an X slide and barrel for a short deep conceal setup(and maybe an OG 365 for an even shorter grip)
Finger discipline
Much better than the original macro
Lol. What makes it “much better”?
@@chrisharris9710 because the macro grip helps more than the macro "comp" in controlling recoil, don't believe me? Then try this, take a macro and an XL and swap slides, the macro will STILL be easier to control even though the "comp" is now on the smaller frame.
Also with the Macro you're already stepping into a realm that's very close to a P320 or G19 size gun but with the "comp" you're still only getting micro pistol ballistics because the barrel is the same length as the original P365. If I'm going to carry a larger handgun (which I do happily) I damn sure want better ballistics out of it rather than a *maybe* 5% improvement to overall recoil.
The comp is mostly for show and the "cool guy" factor, an actual barrel mounted compensator would be a much better option OR an actual ported barrel and slide combo rather than just a short barrel with a "blast chamber" machines into the slide. Compensators work based on pressure, the more pressure you have inside the compensator the more effect your going to get out of it, this is why +P ammo tends to have even less felt recoil with a comp than standard ammo. The "blast chamber" on the comp'd slide loses a huge amount of this "useful pressure" by waiting until the glasses have already left the barrel and are under MUCH less pressure.
If people like the comp'd slide, then that's fine, that's their right. But most of them don't realize the grip is actually doing most of the work in reducing muzzle rise.
@@Kross8761 I’ve done everything you said in the first paragraph, and I still prefer the comped slide. IMO the grip module helps with recoil, but the comp is doing the most work. The XL module felt much better to me with the macro slide. I do understand, and have factored in, the larger module though. I did all of this the week the macro dropped. I don’t think I include all of that in my video on the macro, but I did pin a comment speaking to that on that video over at my channel, Harris Arms.
I get what you’re saying in the second paragraph and really don’t have any problem with that opinion. It makes sense. To me that doesn’t justify a “much better” label. “Better for me” sure, but not just an objectively stated “much better”.
The comp is definitely not just for show. It shines better with heavy and higher pressure ammunition, so if you’ve just ran some 115 FMJs through it it hasn’t reached potential. But it’s not like a Radian Ramjet either. IMO the 15-18% reduction number is a good general area to put the performance though, which in a category as snappy as the micro 9mm category is, is a big win in my book.
I will also agree that a lot of people have said they would not prefer the comp. I have a good friend I shoot with that says that. But again, to me that doesn’t justify objectively stating it’s “much better”. It fills a desire for a lot of people. But there are a lot of people on the other side as well.
Bottom line, the Macro is a great EDC option, either iteration. Whether one finds the first or second iteration to be the “best” is at the end of the day subjective.
@@chrisharris9710 lol thats your bottom line, not "the" bottom line. I, and others, disagree. I view the comp as entirely needless on a 9mm caliber, while adding a possible failure point. Especially on a gun meant specifically for carry, i dont need extra holes to collect link & debris. I value reliability in a firearm over anything else, meaning to me the non comped version is definitely the much better one of the two. Which is exactly what i said in the first comment. I guess my opinion made you feel the need to write a paragraph response. Sorry that you had to cope with someone not agreeing with your choice in firearm. That must be really hard on you-
The comp has always been a big debate. Let me know if you want me to put a comp on this. I haven't shot the macro but I hear it makes up to a 20% difference in handling. What I think makes this package "better" is the price, extra mag, and the extended slide release because these small sigs come factory stiff. Just that tiny amount of extra real-estate makes it so much easier to drop the slide out of box.
$170 is too much for a comp…. As I sit here having paid $400 for the Radian ramjet kit….😢😂
That's a good price considering two cuts in a slide is worth $170 to Sig. If the ramjet was made by Sig it would cost 600+ 😂