CATAN Speedrun - Win on 1st Turn

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  • Speedruns are one of the niche but beautiful parts of gaming culture, but I have not seen it applied to board games and was feeling a little bit left out. So I decided to see if we can make speedrunning interesting with board games, starting with Catan.
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    Catan Speedrun: How quickly can you win a game of Catan?
    0:00 The Challenge
    0:55 Worst Case Scenario
    1:44 #1 - Trial & Error
    2:42 #2 - Play Dirty
    3:58 #3 - Beg For Forgiveness
    4:33 #4 - Final Battle
    6:30 Math.. kinda
    7:22 World Record?
    As a fun thought experiment, I thought, "Hypothetically, how quickly can someone win a game of Catan if played perfectly and everything went their way?" After a lot of contemplation and tomfoolery, I made a video out of it. There is a lot of interesting things you can learn about the game from watching this, in addition to the actual goal of the video. Enjoy!

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  • @KenPlaysCatan
    @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you speedrun to click that subscribe button?

    • @jamesupright2894
      @jamesupright2894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Cheat" and use the 5-6 player expansion?

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesupright2894 That is genius!

    • @r.mutti9i725
      @r.mutti9i725 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just won a game on Colonist in 12:35

  • @seamonster175
    @seamonster175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You can't play a dev card the turn you buy it. It's still doable I think since this only adds 1 more card to the total (2 brick 2 wood vs ore wheat sheep)

  • @3dsmax236
    @3dsmax236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Apart from illegal trades (which can be circumvented via multiple stages of resources exchanging hands), you can't play the roadbuilding on the same turn you bought that card. I still like your videos though.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I'm kicking myself for that obvious one lol. And thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Hailey-hh7jp
    @Hailey-hh7jp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So from these comments, it seems to be the consensus that you didn't win it in one round. Looks like I'll be taking your starting cards. Sweet!

  • @lidorajcher
    @lidorajcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    High quality video as always! Level up production with each time *clap*!

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      * bows * Thank you! I tried to do more live action footage this time.

  • @KenPlaysCatan
    @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    *Poll:* Should I make more *quirky* game content..
    Never Again, or Always Forever?

    • @zackanderson9453
      @zackanderson9453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      always and forever

    • @leocarlton4364
      @leocarlton4364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You remind me of the youtuber 'Macro' who always does dumb skits at the start of each video. Your like the board game version of that guy

    • @volodja99
      @volodja99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes please, this Catan stuff is really funny!

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@volodja99 I forgot I asked this question lol, but thank you for answering, good reminder!

  • @cargoksrt
    @cargoksrt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    who knew that all it took to win catan on the first turn was perfect dice rolls and holding families hostage

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gotta think outside the (catan) box.

  • @chadjehebej2258
    @chadjehebej2258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Banger Video! (very nice editing)

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Chad, I had a lot of fun with this one

  • @Bloodyblack123
    @Bloodyblack123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very fun and entertaining to watch! I bet you had a lot of fun making it too :D

  • @ScorpioIsland
    @ScorpioIsland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I will comment on every video you make until you have a million subs and you're where you deserve to be. Holy hell, it is a crime that TH-cam isn't suggesting your videos to everyone all the time

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I look forward to it! I remember all your comments, it really helped me get comfortable with my voice, I appreciate it.

  • @kalabee1528
    @kalabee1528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So clever! So funny!

  • @0utOfSkill
    @0utOfSkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your production quality is way up there! Good video!

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Good to hear after the production hours... lol

  • @cewnik24
    @cewnik24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video, I enjoyed it a lot, keep up the good work mate, cheers

  • @gibsongahan4093
    @gibsongahan4093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I see one flaw… I didn’t think you could trade 1 resource for the same resource.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can trade for the same resource (I just doubled checked the manual). I've also seen it done with players trying to reduce the cards in their hand to avoid losing cards to a 7 roll. They would give 2 sheep for 1 sheep to drop hand size.

    • @Lertush
      @Lertush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, you really "may not trade like resources (e.g. 2 wool for 1 wool)" (look at the Trade section in the almanac of the rule book for base Catan). But actually you can avoid this problem by doing multiply trading with the same player.
      The more important issue "you may not playing a card [a development card] that you bought during the same turn" (look at Development Cards section). So, you can make your great video even greater by taking this into account. It would also be cool to get a more detailed overview of your final variant of Catan bord and the sequence of dice rolls, so that anyone could repeat your heroic winning at home.
      As an idea - if the first player builds a city (or maybe two cities, if at all possible!) during the first turn, this player will generate a little more resources by the turn of the fourth player.
      Thanks for your work, you're doing it great!

    • @Sebby_Nineteen
      @Sebby_Nineteen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenPlaysCatan Wrong, that is strictly illegal. You can trade any amount of cards, but you CANNOT trade Like for Like.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lertush Yeah, the second someone pointed the development card out, I had a 'oh shit' moment. Ugh. I think I could have navigated it differently and still got the 1st turn result, but yeah agreed. And thanks for the thorough comment! I like the idea of city-ing another player up early for more cards, wonder how that math plays out.

    • @MK-yg2np
      @MK-yg2np 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could still be possible! You needed 3 resources to buy the dev card for a road building. And you had one sheep left. Thats 4 cards in total. 2 brick and 2 wood as these 4 cards do the same job. I think you can find a way!

  • @EC-jo9hu
    @EC-jo9hu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so satisfying to watch as someone who’s addicted to catan HAHA

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love to hear it, I've always wanted to make games more epic via videos

  • @TheSabbyandGabbyShow
    @TheSabbyandGabbyShow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hailey’s face though LOL

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have several takes, I should make a compilation video of her villain laughing.

  • @jadenbarton3359
    @jadenbarton3359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work! Loved the video

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you thank you, was different but fun!

  • @andres783
    @andres783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Was going to dislike the video but then saw the kidnapping option and was in 100%. Well thought out. However, a couple issues:
    1. You cant use any DV cards on the same round you acquire them unless its a VP. The road building would have to wait till the next turn (either before or after roll IIRC) Maybe there is a way there where you still are able to build a settlement on first turn and get longest road prior to rolling your second roll.
    2. I dont know if you can trade like for like resources. I dont believe you can, but it can be "house rules" since everyone in the table is bound to agree to that lol.
    Major props for the ingenuity and finding a way. Enjoyed the video and will look for the more "serious" content.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahaha, it sounds like clickbait if not for that kidnapping option. And yeah, that road building was an especially big blunder. I feel like I could redistribute things so that I can avoid like for like and somehow also build two roads. Although seeing this through, I think there are a bunch of other ways to attempt this.

    • @Jo24Park
      @Jo24Park 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenPlaysCatan lastly, I think that if someone was giving you 4 alike resources plus something else for 1 card they make a worse trade than 4:1ing it. If I was a judge, I'd also not let that pass (see the aforementioned 2021 final where Caleb would have basically given away 1 card for free). But I'm intrigued by your idea of making it possible!

  • @iheartcello0
    @iheartcello0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video so much! Really makes me want to open up Excel.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm loving all your comments, really making my day

    • @iheartcello0
      @iheartcello0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenPlaysCatan no YOU are making my day!

  • @mathewcornacchia
    @mathewcornacchia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was wondering why you hadn't come out with a video in a little. Once I saw the spread sheets I knew lol

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah dude, I wasn't even really sure it was possible, but it seemed like a worthy pursuit.

    • @mathewcornacchia
      @mathewcornacchia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KenPlaysCatan I deeply respect the search for the OTK

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mathewcornacchia One-Touch-Knee

  • @Gavinwad
    @Gavinwad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this mean your wife has to give you all of her starting resources now? Haha, great video. Loving the drama, keep it up!

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll show her this comment and make the case for it! And thanks :)

  • @GigaHaxor333
    @GigaHaxor333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Epic

  • @alexgavril6875
    @alexgavril6875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Upgrade to 1 city, build 3 roads for the longest road bonus. Draw 5 victory points......

  • @eugenecunningham1187
    @eugenecunningham1187 ปีที่แล้ว

    You only need 3 brick and 3 wood for longest road. You already start with 2 segments.

    • @eugenecunningham1187
      @eugenecunningham1187 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he goes last, that gives him 4 rolls. The most resources produced from 4 rolls is 24 resources amongst all players. That's 36 resources between 4 players. He trades 3 away (using combo trades to make it legal if needed) which leaves him with 33 res.
      15 for 5 vps
      6 for 3 roads- 2 vps
      5 for 1 city- 2vp
      Last vp from starting settlement.
      All he would need is 26 res.

  • @daniellim4598
    @daniellim4598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd hate to know how long that took to work out haha!

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Dan, let's just say we could have finished a few Catan games.. lol

  • @grubbygeorge2117
    @grubbygeorge2117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does Catan allow you to trade for favours? Such as “I won’t build a settlement in this location you’re interested in if you give me your sheep” or “give me wheat or I’ll use my Knight development card on you”

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you can't trade for a favor. But you can ADD a favor to an valid trade. "I'll trade you my sheep for your wheat AND I won't knight you." Although you don't have to follow through with that add-on. Check out my Trading video for more info!

  • @Midembo
    @Midembo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Content do be beautiful though

  • @Sebby_Nineteen
    @Sebby_Nineteen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You broke a couple rules here.
    A) You can't trade Like for Like. At 3:40, Wheat travelled in both directions, and the next trade had Brick flow in both directions. And then again starting at 8:27 you did more illegal trades.
    B) You bought a Road Building card, but you can't use it on the same turn as you bought it. The ONLY DV cards that can be 'used' on the same turn are the VP cards.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey Sebby! You are right, I flubbed a few things. The biggest one being using road building, can't believe I overlooked such an obvious one! As for like for like, I checked the manual, but it sounds like this is still illegal based on other sources.

    • @Sebby_Nineteen
      @Sebby_Nineteen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KenPlaysCatan Under 'Domestic Trade' on Page 7. It says you cannot trade matching resources.

  • @rafikvz
    @rafikvz ปีที่แล้ว

    poor katanas ;(

  • @levihalperin7649
    @levihalperin7649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cant use a dev card the same turn you buy it, so you wouldn't be able to use road building till next turn...

  • @thamiosmgtow3678
    @thamiosmgtow3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg this is seems and sounds like you a father of Dyllighted hahahahaha)))

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha, I wish I was half as skilled as Dylighted in Catan.

  • @jimmydunn9210
    @jimmydunn9210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait, you can't play multiple dev cards in one turn, nor can you play a dev card the turn you get it. Still a cool video but you couldn't win until you play all of those.

    • @KenPlaysCatan
      @KenPlaysCatan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Darn, you're right. What an oversight! I would need to recalculate to instead have those 2sheep/1ore/1wheat be a wood/brick.

    • @ryderthefirst5023
      @ryderthefirst5023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only the second point is actually an issue; victory cards don't get played, they just count towards your total. But yeah the road building card is still an illegal play

    • @Sebby_Nineteen
      @Sebby_Nineteen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While you are right that DV cards, the VP cards are the exception to that rule. You can 'play' as many as you have, if they give you the win. Including on the turn you bought it.

  • @ValkornGaming
    @ValkornGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pretty sure you cant play dev cards the turn you buy it...

  • @daringdarius5686
    @daringdarius5686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:30 wouldn't you only need 16 resources?
    5x dev cards + 2 cities + 1 settlement = 10 victory points!
    Making 3 cities grants you 11 victory points (6 + 5)?
    Haven't finished the video yet, maybe there is a later revelation!

  • @alexgavril6875
    @alexgavril6875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Illegal trades unfortunately

  • @federicopassuello8701
    @federicopassuello8701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is bullshit, the trades you did are illegal, read again the rules