😂polish what? I dont own box trailer but I do occasionly tow box trailer from U haul to move things by using my jeep. And even that, I dont polish the ball. Why for? It is SS.
Seems like towing capacity is the ONLY thing that the blind, jealous haters cling on to it. If they want bigger towing capacity, get a full-size truck. BYD Shark is perfect for majority of population for light-medium towing and camping.
The low payload is also a big let down. It should be against the law for any ute to have less than a 1t payload. They should have made it have 1.5t payload and 3.5t towing to wipe the floor with the competition. Most utes that tow are over gvm or/& GCM
What kind of long term problems is it going to have? Ford has been building things a long time and it shows over time. For $5,000 it's a no brainer. A proven product all the way. If it was $10,000 less maybe. I don't know very many Chinese products that last well.
@@saff226 above 1t payload disqualifies it for a novated lease in australia apparently, which is often how commercial utes are purchased. the low payload/tow is a shortcoming but for people who just carry some tools around its fine, not much different to the coil sprung navaras. although yeah if you're towing and touring with a heavy load, its probably not for you, but then again this is more targeted at people using it as a daily
@@yw1551 BYD Shark V2L output in Mexico is 110 volt same as USA and as such has a lower kW output, whereas the Brazil models get 220 volt and a higher output.
@@yw1551 Brazil video showing the V2L outlet. If you stop the video at the right time, then you can see the 6kW rating. th-cam.com/video/rPkFBi2DmPQ/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=112
BYD is the solution to the green, affordable, and quality vehicles for the majority of the population. Big corporations are freaking out now BYD is in the play. It's good for consumers to have more affordable options.
Green? No Affordable? Some will say yes, others not so much Quality? Time will tell but at the moment, brands are still too hit and miss to say one way or the other
@@interiorsretailfacts Electric vehicles are destroying the planet, we are being lied to! To make one car battery requires digging up 500,000 pounds of dirt. There is no long term solutions for all the batteries that are bad and the terrible fires and pollution they put into the environment. The vehicles and machines moving the dirt and refining the dirt to battery grade compounds pollute the environment more than a ICE car. Please get involved and learn more about this.
I think the average $30k saving is a big win for byd and most of us that just take their Ute camping or up the beach then byd is more than capable if your worried about diff locks and lift kits then your probs not looking at either of these vehicles I for one am hanging on for the shark I currently drive a v6 amarok 2021
So glad i came across this post . I too have 2019 V6 Amarok ..Simply the best at everything , except for reversing with a big load . Im not a fan of the 2024 Rangeroks and have been hanging on to my truck until a find a suitable ( cost effective ) replacement . I current use a slide on camper on my V6 and pretty much max out the GVM . I still tow the occasional 2-3 tonne trailer , so Going to BYD or similar , will be a compromise , as far as being able to tow .. Good news is I will be scalling down my towing anyway ( due to my age and physical capabilties ) My V6 can manage 7.5 litres per 100km in idea conditions and no more than 15 litres per 100km maxed out GCM . The fuel efficiency of a hybrid ute is very appealing .. Looking forwards to the future in EV's and Hybrids 👍🏻
@@peterachilles9346 I have mate , yes .. a little bit of a shock and to be honest , I am , however more interested on the petrol mileage on highway and rural trips .. No city driving for me .. Doesnt make sense how they can clsim 7.9per 100km , especially after that test you just mentioned .😮
@@Nerkumsized i think they are claiming those numbers if people plug it in overnight. Ive had a few arguements with people telling them that the only way theyl get good mileage is by having it charged at home. But they kept saying no the engine does that. Well carsales just proved thats not the case. I think the only people who will really benefit from a hybrid car like this are people who dont mind charging it every night and also those who actually have space in their garage to even do so. All those people who claim it doednt need to be plugged in, I think will realise its a bad choice. Ive never criticized the brand. I always thought a hybrid style car like this is obviously designed to be plugged in for a reason.
@@peterachilles9346 Ill get the the bottom of this ..Im going to check one out in a few days and Ill have a shit load of questions on this very topic .. If it doesnt get 7.9litres of petrol per 100km , In the real world , Ill wait for something else . Charging at home with my solar is what Ill be doing for the free 80km of travel but the 7.9ltr per hundred at highway speed is a must ..or Ill bail on it .
there is no doubt that byd will be the no.1 producer of cars in very close future. it shipped out over 500,000 cars last month and continue to increase fast every month. @@mauriceflowers3639
As a new caravan owner I tow it with a GWM Cannon, very impressed with it but wish I had the 3.5 ton towing capacity which BYD are addressing in their next iteration, hands down I would go with the Shark every time, nothing wrong with owning a Chinese vehicle, I'm really impressed with how far they have come in tech, support and value for money, I had a Hilux previously but could not justify the Toyota tax and spending $75 K, bought the top of the range Cannon X instead and very happy with it. I can not see any tariffs being applied to Chinese vehicles here in Australia since we do not have a car industry here anymore, unlike the US which will impose a 100% tariff on imported Chinese vehicles, Europe is going the same way as the US but not as hard 30 to 40% possibly.
I can write off almost all the BYD costs from TAX as an instant asset write off in Australia 🇦🇺, there is zero FBT for personal use as well which is awesome. I do loads of shorter 20-60km trips and the battery alone covers most of these just on Electric only. More than enough towing capacity for my needs and cannot complain at all.
Out of all the years i've driven. The amount of times i've actually seen a Ford Ranger Ute actually towing any payload is like 5 in 100. The fact that BYD's Hybrid PHEV is better than Ford PHEV in almost every metric should say alot.
To be COMPLETELY fair. Maybe you should leave the city and drive toward Gladstone and see the 10000’s of caravans on the road. And then walk through any of your local caravan parks. It’s like ranger city. I tow with my model Y. But are you expecting me to have my 1.6t boat on it every day? I don’t have a ranger/ nor want a ford. But it’s weird how people expect tow capable vehicles to be constantly towing???
@@RicknMorty85 ohh sorry man, it’s tough being an adult and contributing to a forum but too incapable of reading more then a sentence when someone replies… “I won’t be reading that” haha . You sure your user name birth year reference isn’t 95 or 2005? And the fact that I said “ to be fair” you interpreted as a trigger.. even more laughable. Good chat
@@ibsn87 Sorry didn't mean to trigger you by stating facts on what i've seen. Life is hard I know, but if you keep closing your eyes, maybe you can imagine something else into real life!
@@RicknMorty85 haha my original comment was incredibly balanced. So the only person “triggered” here is you when I replied 😂. But anyway. Telling me I walk around with my eyes closed? when I was highlighting - you should open yours in a caravan park, it’s f’n ranger city… it’s ok. I get it, you think that because you see a vehicle capable of towing. It should be towing. Yet you clearly haven’t done a trip out of the CBD in a while. 100k vehicle should sit at home between towing huh? Remember you ended the conversation by saying you wouldn’t read anything I had to say. Arrogant much hahahaha you just keep saying things and not listening to anyone else bro. Enjoy your own narrative. And for the love of god, don’t pay attention to what’s towing once you leave the cbd
That's my thinking exactly, especially as some people don't have long trips in their normal day to travels. (cIcwonder if any of them Ford or BYD Shark will have a Spare tyre at all 1, or None, or a baby donut spare tyre... where I'd prefer a stock 18".
A few People is already getting the gas savings here in Mexico, basically not using any gas at all... big savings if you are person that drives ~100km per day
@@cwilliams4227 tks for confirmation! my last wonder is if you run out of charge, but have a full tank of gas, can 1 manually switch till you get home, ( or to a charging station) & or doest the system, ( running on gas & 1 assume a 12v battery power) does it auto switch to gas & can it run on only gas? with it's separate drive trains? ( front & bk separated by big battery, no connecting axel)...
@@port8565 Not for the majority of owners of these things (but if you do need large towing capacity then yes the Ranger is decent) - I will give Ford another 18 months of brand/reputation loyalty before the new wave of China Super Cars win over the buying public.
Ford will soon build Ranger Raptor Orca. Orca will eat that Shark😂😂😂😂😂 Big question? Maintenance cost? How many years would the battery last? Cost of Battery and other parts? Availability of the Parts? How many years of Warranty?
Interesting comparison. I would go the Ford over the BYD if the prices were competitive. However, they are not, so I would be tempted top sell my aging Landcruiser and opt for the BYD. The power and torque are much more than my current tow vehicle and my caravan is 2.4 tonne fully laden, so just squeaks in.
What are you talking about? If the price is the same, Ford will lose more ugly. When BYD sells for the same price as Ford, it will give you an additional space capsule.
BYD are also providing the Hybrid System for the Toyota Corolla. And Toyota saw the writing on the wall last year when they said that Hybrid was the future. One of those 3 230v sockets in the tray is 15AMP. The rest are 10AMP like the one in the centre consol.
@@michaelhermans4753 the other/better way to put it: byd shark is an EV with a petrol generator, while Ranger is a traditional combustion truck with a small battery.
Considering the price, this isn’t really a fair comparison to begin with. If you offer me one of these two Utes, I'll hesitate. But if I have to buy it with my own money, it's Shark without a doubt.
I think the BYD’s 4WD capabilities are a bit of an unknown - the ability for software to modulate power in a dual motor AWD system can be very very effective, so if they get that right then it might be as good as or better than the Ranger. The Shark’s ability to DC fast charge also gives it quite an edge as well. Personally I prefer the interior/exterior of the Ranger, but the Shark’s price/specs are very compelling.
Even if you don’t want to buy a BYD Shark but interested in the utes, this Shark should shake up the ridiculous pricing in this segment, Ford being the worst offender, giving us mediocre tech and charging a premium. They will either need to up their game reduce their price points, particularly with the higher end lifestyle range. $100k for Ford Ranger is freaking laughable.
I've been a truck owner for a long as I can remember. And not once I've ever towed anything. The Shark checks all the important boxes for me. I'm completely sold on it
What's the aftersales support like with BYD? Ford's is shite here in the UK (IMO) so if BYD can get this right too, then they'll be a force to be reckoned with!
the electric range ~100km of the Shark will be hard to beat by the american brands on a pick up. Extended range on the Shark makes it beautiful for long trips ... I like the Ranger but with this competition/features... BYD may be my next truck.
A Brazilian car reviewer shows the Mexican Shark's V2L output in the rear tray is 6kw at 110-volt maximum, wonder if it would be different for the Australian version.
The GWM Cannon (or Tank 500) PHEV seem to be the sweet spot between these two, with 3 tonne towing and 100km EV range. And yeah 3x diff locks and low range, so better off road potentially than even the Ranger…
The 3.5 tonne towing capacity being promoted by the press and manufacturers is potentially dangerous - how is it safe for a 2.2 tonne vehicle towing 3.5 tonnes?
@richardcharlton8259 Towing capacity of the chassis (maximum amount of mass the vehicle can pull) is different to towing performance. Good luck to anyone that will try to push it to the limit , I agree. We are just talking about different things.
It's a piece of middle school physics knowledge that towing a trailer only requires more force than the force of friction rather than the force of gravity on the trailer.
On power, we spotted in a Brazilian video a 6kw max output across 3 10a points in the tray. You can already get 16a peak from the bidirectional charge point on some models, so there’s a strong possibility of more power from the Shark with a vtol adapter
I have a caravan so the BYD is not an option with its 2.5tonne towing. Please do a tow test with the BYD shark though when released. Towing its 2.5 tonne limit on a decent long trip with some hills etc so we can see how it goes once the batteries are low
I like both of them. The phev battery size is disappointing and smaller than 10-year-old house batteries. But it has that 3.5t tow rating and could still power your work or camp site for hours.
I'd love to be able to buy a series hybrid, AWE, fully independent suspension small pickup truck in the USA, but a possible future Ranger PHEV is a step in the right direction.
I dont really need too much towing power and load capacity, I just want a large storage space for my outdoor sports equipment. and traditional pickup consume too much oil in my mind. so on paper Shark really fit my requirements. but I currently have a Chinese 7 seats version Ford Edge, and I have always preferred Ford chassis. so we will see.
BYD all the way. If you like camping it seems to be a winner, use the engine to arrive at 70%, you're good for the weekend, induction cooking, fridge, heater overnight... no brainer for me. I just wait to see it on the road a couple of times, early adopters pay a price I can't afford :D
If the Shark had 3.5t towing capacity it would be on my list. I have a decent sized boat and need the tow capability. I was a little disappointed the Shark only has 2.5t, but it shows the EV brigade is getting close to a serious 4WD for people that tow big loads and dont want, or cant afford a LandCruiser or a huge american tank ute.
I watched an US reviewer's video on BYD Shark yesterday, and in it they mentioned Shark overall is overwhelmingly good, way better than they thought it would be, but BYD may faces some brand-loyalty issues in the States if they manage to get in, since Toyota, Nissan, Ford etc etc have dominated the market for years. I say, they know nothing about consumers, unless you are a millionaire buying a Mercedes S600, then the logo surely means everything. Otherwise, brand means nothing in front of cost-effectiveness and your wallet.
Shark 100% - not a ford fan generally, but way better value for money, and larger EV range. Couldn't care less about towing capacity. Love the tech the shark is throwing in, hate how ute's always have to have dull interior's
I'm pretty sure the electric dual motor system in Shark have automatic torque vectoring for both axels, which is basically an auto-locking smart differential. With +280mm clearance I can't wait to see how will it perform off-road. Not having to wire up separate battery system etc. simplify so much for most non-hardcore offroaders.
It is comfort, relax, quiet and powerful for EV vehicles. Full option for standard car price is too attractive and everyone can't resist to take them home. Poor that American do not have a chance to get one.
Like most people in New Zealand, I've never towed anything of significance. Towing capacity means nothing to me. Shark 6 for me easy. I'd be embarrassed to be one of those tradie knobs who run around in a Ranger.
When I worked in computer sales we talked about vapourware. All unreleased products were amazing in every specification. Upon release we were all a little disappointed. Let’s wait to see what Ford actually release for sale to the public before we complete our judgement
Prices for this type of vehicle are well out of the reach for most people!....$90,000 for a Ford UTE? I'd take the BYD any day but can't afford that either.
DMO tech is miles better as the engine is not powering the wheel but use to charge the battery. Traditional engine loss 70% of energy while delivering drivetrain and the DMO has energy loss 20%. Stunning tech
The ranger can tow 7500 lbs no matter what the state of charge of the battery has. What I want to know is what can the Shark tow when the battery is depleted?
From the day the Ranger PHEV was announced, most people were saying 45km wasn't enough. At $40k cheaper, with 320KW & 80km EV only range, the BYD Shark will probably make the Ranger PHEV DOA.
it's got a great big battery under the floor that doesn't like knocks. Go rock crawling in this thing and watch the fire. If you are a city only driver that wants a 4x4 ute....well good luck to you! I have a giggle at this pro EV site! NO person wanting to go "bush" for an extended period will buy an electric/PHEV ute!
Love the concept of both … however when towing and hauling, once the BYD battery is depleted you are left with a measly 135kw 260nw engine Vs 222kw 452nw in the Ford. Plus the BYD is morbidly obese, or very heavy … so horses for courses I guess. Can you get away with a 40klm range and plug-in every night whilst in town with better driving dynamics and the backup of a strong engine for touring … or, go with the BYD with the convenience of a much bigger battery for around town and no problem if you forget to plug-in every night, plus a bigger battery which in theory should last longer as it loses energy density over its lifetime.
You don’t need low range in the Shark 6 because it’s electrically driven. Electric motors have 100% torque from Zero rpm. The engine “can” send power to the front axle but only at 70km/h & above.
BYD build your dream to many it will as price and what it delivers are ideal from over priced trucks or at least BYD would give there competitors a second thought in pricing
In Mexico shark has a starting price for $53K equivalent for a midsize which is honestly a lot higher than I expected. I expected something in the $35K or at most mid $40K range (starting price of a Tacoma hybrid). Remember in Mexico a base Hilux starts at $20K equivalent while crew cab with diesel start at $30K or so BYD is twice as much Yet its towing and payload a lot less, no solid axle means it is never gonna be as off-road capable. It uses e-CVT rather than traditional torque converter automatic. Its 30kwh or so battery is stored not in the interior like the Wrangler 4XE or TNGA-F product but outside underneath the cab. So repairing and replacing on that battery will take longer and cost more money. Some of the biggest problem of the BYD DMO platform. This is not the game changer that some people hyped up to be
you cant talk abut the ranger being the benchmark because there isnt in reality. first it has to be in the road, selling and everything. I think every maker is wrong because there is not power outlets globally speaking, i think it makes a lot more sense, having a built in combustion generator with your car to power the batteries, then when its standard a charger every 100km internationally theeen you go full electric.
The ratings for V2L and the rear power socket are different. The Shark, V2L is 6kw's. I'm not sure about the power socket because it's different for 110v and 220v. V2L comes from the charging point and I don't think the Ranger has that.
Brilliant that BYD can throw a shark amongst the pigeons. If Ford want to survive, they’ll need to drop their pricing to match. Competition is great for the consumer! 🥳
China just signed a deal with all of the countries in African, this gives their car maker 2.5 billion low income consumers to build cars for and this will include building more car factories in Africa like VW, Ford, GM and other do. So I expect the Chinese will be bringing out cars starting from $5k including 2WD drive Utes and 4WD from $20k. Given Africa's diesel & petrol distribution is poor I expect EV's to outsell ICE. Going to be an interesting year and don't forget it took BYD only one year to build a car plant in Thailand.....
Believe it or not, there is actually food for thought in some comments. I was a firm believer the BYD was better platform, still think it maybe but currently its all speculation from a viewers prospective but saucy corner boy has seen a BYD Shark in its entirety, sat in it, smelt it, feeled it so he has an insight we're yet to experience. I myself want that same insight. Bring it on BYD, give us the same insight.
Well, as the owner of both Toyota Corolla hybrid and BYD Han Dmi, I think I have enough experience with HEV/PHEV. You must compare the output of engine when talking about hybrid cars, because the car cannot stay at maximum output power for long
Off reading use full regen on the Shark, you'll leave the petrol dopes far behind, Ford is having MAJOR engine issues with turbo hybrids, leave them for a couple years.
I'm ready to preorder the byd shark, BUT, I need a Ute with either a canopy or a tub roller / cover, no matter how hard I've searched I can't even find a single picture of any of the sort for the byd shark, that will be the only thing stopping me ordering it when I can 😬
no it wont, at least not in Australia. Australian ute buyers a snobs when it comes to brands. If it doesn't have a Ford to Toyota badge, then it wont sell in mass numbers, regardless of how good the competition is.
Unlike a lot of city 4wd people I actually need a proper 4WD that can tow 3.5T with a proper tray back with toolboxes and ladder racks. Inverter is nice (I have a 3.5kW in my car now) Much prefer the A/C to have knobs Not real impressed with the dashboard as a computer screen. Maybey when it can come as a cab chassis I will look at it Until then its Dmax all the way. How much water can this thing handle?? I follow cyclones and storms around restoring power to telecommunication sites I wouldn't risk it on a toy car This cant even handle 1T in the back so you gotta leave half your tools behind.
Not sure if the Ford Ranger PHEV will be sold wordwide, BYD already has plans to sell in all markets except USA and Canada, tho im sure they are planning that for the future.
Seems the Ranger is going to be a compliance vehicle. It's a way for Ford to pass emissions testing while providing a vehicle that will be used in petrol mode 90% of the time.
85% of Ford Ranger owners polish the tow ball and don’t even own a box trailer.
Most don't own brains either.
😂polish what? I dont own box trailer but I do occasionly tow box trailer from U haul to move things by using my jeep. And even that, I dont polish the ball. Why for? It is SS.
Try95%
I polish mine to sit on it
@@林振华-t4v I guess you never seen those chrome trailer hitches on the road🤣
Seems like towing capacity is the ONLY thing that the blind, jealous haters cling on to it. If they want bigger towing capacity, get a full-size truck. BYD Shark is perfect for majority of population for light-medium towing and camping.
wr, no such thing as bettx or for or jeax or etc
Now imagine it had all that and was more compact/cleverly packaged.
The low payload is also a big let down. It should be against the law for any ute to have less than a 1t payload.
They should have made it have 1.5t payload and 3.5t towing to wipe the floor with the competition. Most utes that tow are over gvm or/& GCM
What kind of long term problems is it going to have? Ford has been building things a long time and it shows over time. For $5,000 it's a no brainer. A proven product all the way. If it was $10,000 less maybe. I don't know very many Chinese products that last well.
@@saff226 above 1t payload disqualifies it for a novated lease in australia apparently, which is often how commercial utes are purchased. the low payload/tow is a shortcoming but for people who just carry some tools around its fine, not much different to the coil sprung navaras. although yeah if you're towing and touring with a heavy load, its probably not for you, but then again this is more targeted at people using it as a daily
A car review channel in Brazil shows the Shark V2L output in the rear tray to be 6kW at 220 volt.
I saw it was at 110 volt, not sure which one is correct.
@@yw1551 BYD Shark V2L output in Mexico is 110 volt same as USA and as such has a lower kW output, whereas the Brazil models get 220 volt and a higher output.
@@yw1551 Brazil video showing the V2L outlet. If you stop the video at the right time, then you can see the 6kW rating.
th-cam.com/video/rPkFBi2DmPQ/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=112
Depende del país. Soy de Uruguay y aquí no existen las conexiones de 110 volts. Solo tenemos de 220/240, la Shark llega con 220 volts
Output in north America is 110volts. The rest of the world like Australia is 220volts, so it’s higher.
BYD is the solution to the green, affordable, and quality vehicles for the majority of the population. Big corporations are freaking out now BYD is in the play. It's good for consumers to have more affordable options.
Neither are green or environmentally responsible but that's not the point of these
Green? No
Affordable? Some will say yes, others not so much
Quality? Time will tell but at the moment, brands are still too hit and miss to say one way or the other
@@andyg9991 Reliability? Time will tell.
@@interiorsretailfacts Electric vehicles are destroying the planet, we are being lied to! To make one car battery requires digging up 500,000 pounds of dirt. There is no long term solutions for all the batteries that are bad and the terrible fires and pollution they put into the environment. The vehicles and machines moving the dirt and refining the dirt to battery grade compounds pollute the environment more than a ICE car. Please get involved and learn more about this.
I think the average $30k saving is a big win for byd and most of us that just take their Ute camping or up the beach then byd is more than capable if your worried about diff locks and lift kits then your probs not looking at either of these vehicles
I for one am hanging on for the shark I currently drive a v6 amarok 2021
So glad i came across this post .
I too have 2019 V6 Amarok ..Simply the best at everything , except for reversing with a big load .
Im not a fan of the 2024 Rangeroks and have been hanging on to my truck until a find a suitable ( cost effective ) replacement .
I current use a slide on camper on my V6 and pretty much max out the GVM .
I still tow the occasional 2-3 tonne trailer , so Going to BYD or similar , will be a compromise , as far as being able to tow ..
Good news is I will be scalling down my towing anyway ( due to my age and physical capabilties )
My V6 can manage 7.5 litres per 100km in idea conditions and no more than 15 litres per 100km maxed out GCM .
The fuel efficiency of a hybrid ute is very appealing ..
Looking forwards to the future in EV's and Hybrids 👍🏻
@@Nerkumsizedhave ypu seen the new carsales review showing the byd sharks uses over 14L per 100km. You should stick with your amarok
@@peterachilles9346 I have mate , yes .. a little bit of a shock and to be honest , I am , however more interested on the petrol mileage on highway and rural trips ..
No city driving for me ..
Doesnt make sense how they can clsim 7.9per 100km , especially after that test you just mentioned .😮
@@Nerkumsized i think they are claiming those numbers if people plug it in overnight. Ive had a few arguements with people telling them that the only way theyl get good mileage is by having it charged at home. But they kept saying no the engine does that. Well carsales just proved thats not the case. I think the only people who will really benefit from a hybrid car like this are people who dont mind charging it every night and also those who actually have space in their garage to even do so. All those people who claim it doednt need to be plugged in, I think will realise its a bad choice. Ive never criticized the brand. I always thought a hybrid style car like this is obviously designed to be plugged in for a reason.
@@peterachilles9346 Ill get the the bottom of this ..Im going to check one out in a few days and Ill have a shit load of questions on this very topic ..
If it doesnt get 7.9litres of petrol per 100km , In the real world , Ill wait for something else .
Charging at home with my solar is what Ill be doing for the free 80km of travel but the 7.9ltr per hundred at highway speed is a must ..or Ill bail on it .
Shark wins so easily! Not mention Shark is so affordable too. They are simply not at the same level, Ford is so much behind of Shark.
Lol. Ok.
That's why the U.S. government should implement a 100% tariff to level the playing field between Shark and Ford.
longevity of chinese brand is yet to be seen. there track record is not impressive
@@mauriceflowers3639 yada yada that's what they said when Jap cars first came on the scene.
there is no doubt that byd will be the no.1 producer of cars in very close future. it shipped out over 500,000 cars last month and continue to increase fast every month. @@mauriceflowers3639
As a new caravan owner I tow it with a GWM Cannon, very impressed with it but wish I had the 3.5 ton towing capacity which BYD are addressing in their next iteration, hands down I would go with the Shark every time, nothing wrong with owning a Chinese vehicle, I'm really impressed with how far they have come in tech, support and value for money, I had a Hilux previously but could not justify the Toyota tax and spending $75 K, bought the top of the range Cannon X instead and very happy with it.
I can not see any tariffs being applied to Chinese vehicles here in Australia since we do not have a car industry here anymore, unlike the US which will impose a 100% tariff on imported Chinese vehicles, Europe is going the same way as the US but not as hard 30 to 40% possibly.
I can write off almost all the BYD costs from TAX as an instant asset write off in Australia 🇦🇺, there is zero FBT for personal use as well which is awesome.
I do loads of shorter 20-60km trips and the battery alone covers most of these just on Electric only. More than enough towing capacity for my needs and cannot complain at all.
Out of all the years i've driven. The amount of times i've actually seen a Ford Ranger Ute actually towing any payload is like 5 in 100. The fact that BYD's Hybrid PHEV is better than Ford PHEV in almost every metric should say alot.
To be COMPLETELY fair. Maybe you should leave the city and drive toward Gladstone and see the 10000’s of caravans on the road. And then walk through any of your local caravan parks. It’s like ranger city.
I tow with my model Y. But are you expecting me to have my 1.6t boat on it every day?
I don’t have a ranger/ nor want a ford. But it’s weird how people expect tow capable vehicles to be constantly towing???
@@ibsn87 Sorry man didn't mean to trigger you lol. Cool essay but unfortunately I wont be reading that.
@@RicknMorty85 ohh sorry man, it’s tough being an adult and contributing to a forum but too incapable of reading more then a sentence when someone replies… “I won’t be reading that” haha . You sure your user name birth year reference isn’t 95 or 2005? And the fact that I said “ to be fair” you interpreted as a trigger.. even more laughable. Good chat
@@ibsn87 Sorry didn't mean to trigger you by stating facts on what i've seen. Life is hard I know, but if you keep closing your eyes, maybe you can imagine something else into real life!
@@RicknMorty85 haha my original comment was incredibly balanced. So the only person “triggered” here is you when I replied 😂. But anyway. Telling me I walk around with my eyes closed? when I was highlighting - you should open yours in a caravan park, it’s f’n ranger city… it’s ok. I get it, you think that because you see a vehicle capable of towing. It should be towing. Yet you clearly haven’t done a trip out of the CBD in a while. 100k vehicle should sit at home between towing huh?
Remember you ended the conversation by saying you wouldn’t read anything I had to say. Arrogant much hahahaha you just keep saying things and not listening to anyone else bro. Enjoy your own narrative. And for the love of god, don’t pay attention to what’s towing once you leave the cbd
I'd buy purely on the longer EV range. Could possibly do all weekday drives on electric only.
That's a big saving
That's my thinking exactly, especially as some people don't have long trips in their normal day to travels. (cIcwonder if any of them Ford or BYD Shark will have a Spare tyre at all 1, or None, or a baby donut spare tyre... where I'd prefer a stock 18".
40km range is like a joke
A few People is already getting the gas savings here in Mexico, basically not using any gas at all... big savings if you are person that drives ~100km per day
@@zechssiguro7476 Shark has a full sized spare in traditional place
@@cwilliams4227 tks for confirmation! my last wonder is if you run out of charge, but have a full tank of gas, can 1 manually switch till you get home, ( or to a charging station) & or doest the system, ( running on gas & 1 assume a 12v battery power) does it auto switch to gas & can it run on only gas? with it's separate drive trains? ( front & bk separated by big battery, no connecting axel)...
Summary: ford is good, however shark is better. 😂
No
nope
Incorrect - the Shark is a lot better at everything other than towing.
@@rastasrosco1318 which is a major factor.
@@port8565 Not for the majority of owners of these things (but if you do need large towing capacity then yes the Ranger is decent) - I will give Ford another 18 months of brand/reputation loyalty before the new wave of China Super Cars win over the buying public.
For the price of 1 Ford, I could buy 2 BYD sharks, and tow 5 TONS in total.
Ford will soon build Ranger Raptor Orca. Orca will eat that Shark😂😂😂😂😂
Big question? Maintenance cost?
How many years would the battery last?
Cost of Battery and other parts? Availability of the Parts?
How many years of Warranty?
BYD Shark wins, before i even watch your video~~~
I bet you won't put your own money where your mouth is.
What part of China are you in?
So many Chinese astroturfers in TH-cam
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The comment has triggered the LGBT woke brigade
Interesting comparison. I would go the Ford over the BYD if the prices were competitive. However, they are not, so I would be tempted top sell my aging Landcruiser and opt for the BYD. The power and torque are much more than my current tow vehicle and my caravan is 2.4 tonne fully laden, so just squeaks in.
Agree. If they were the same price I would buy the Ford
What are you talking about? If the price is the same, Ford will lose more ugly. When BYD sells for the same price as Ford, it will give you an additional space capsule.
@@鱼离水若 legacy brands are respected so some people buy the worse car because it is a legacy brand
BYD are also providing the Hybrid System for the Toyota Corolla. And Toyota saw the writing on the wall last year when they said that Hybrid was the future. One of those 3 230v sockets in the tray is 15AMP. The rest are 10AMP like the one in the centre consol.
The shark was designed from the ground up, the ford is a band aid on an existing design
No comparison
That has nothing to do with anything.
yes its a comparison lol.... the ford is still overall a much capable vehicle.
Its like a same phone just add a portable battery
@@carholic-sz3qv at twice the price and unreliability issues
@@michaelhermans4753 the other/better way to put it: byd shark is an EV with a petrol generator, while Ranger is a traditional combustion truck with a small battery.
Considering the price, this isn’t really a fair comparison to begin with.
If you offer me one of these two Utes, I'll hesitate. But if I have to buy it with my own money, it's Shark without a doubt.
BYD wins once again!
Wins what. Junk award?
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@@Mikelennon78oops.. didnt see the award before winning it from ford, awkward 😅
At exploding faster? Yes, gold medal...always
@@MithunOnTheNet sounds like all will explode anyway, glad to see ppl accept it so casually, what a training they must have had with other brands.
I think the BYD’s 4WD capabilities are a bit of an unknown - the ability for software to modulate power in a dual motor AWD system can be very very effective, so if they get that right then it might be as good as or better than the Ranger.
The Shark’s ability to DC fast charge also gives it quite an edge as well. Personally I prefer the interior/exterior of the Ranger, but the Shark’s price/specs are very compelling.
To the millions of Americans, it really doesn't matter, as they don't have to right to buy a BYD Shark anyway !
exactly. just a decently programmed electric AWD system would easily trump any ICE system.
their Fanchengbao brand's Bao 5 has seen a lot of offroading, and it also uses electric AWD
Plus, when the battery runs out, the front tyres won't drive
Even if you don’t want to buy a BYD Shark but interested in the utes, this Shark should shake up the ridiculous pricing in this segment, Ford being the worst offender, giving us mediocre tech and charging a premium. They will either need to up their game reduce their price points, particularly with the higher end lifestyle range. $100k for Ford Ranger is freaking laughable.
I don't have to tow a small tank, so I'd probably go for the BYD. That and the 30kWh battery is seriously tempting.
I've been a truck owner for a long as I can remember. And not once I've ever towed anything. The Shark checks all the important boxes for me. I'm completely sold on it
The vast majority of utes in Australia are pavement princesses
Give me power? BYD OK ! 👍
And this is their absolute weakest Hybrid engine/battery combo - expect a 505kw 760nm version at its first update.
The BYD Charge socket plug is power to load. Not just accessory sockets.
What's the aftersales support like with BYD? Ford's is shite here in the UK (IMO) so if BYD can get this right too, then they'll be a force to be reckoned with!
the electric range ~100km of the Shark will be hard to beat by the american brands on a pick up. Extended range on the Shark makes it beautiful for long trips ... I like the Ranger but with this competition/features... BYD may be my next truck.
I own a 2024 Ford Wildtrak, and in all honesty is they BYD shark was available when I bought the wildtrak, I would have most probably bought the BYD.
A Brazilian car reviewer shows the Mexican Shark's V2L output in the rear tray is 6kw at 110-volt maximum, wonder if it would be different for the Australian version.
Of course it will...it will match the nations household socket
The GWM Cannon (or Tank 500) PHEV seem to be the sweet spot between these two, with 3 tonne towing and 100km EV range.
And yeah 3x diff locks and low range, so better off road potentially than even the Ranger…
But the GWM PHEV uses parallel powertrain, and its fuel efficiency at low speed is much worse than Shark's series-parallel powertrain.
none of the cars u listed are phev they are normal hybrid and cant drive only ev
@SomeThingGamingYT not yet, but the PHEV versions are available in China and hopefully will be coming here.
@@Expedition_Tranquilo ohh ok
The 3.5 tonne towing capacity being promoted by the press and manufacturers is potentially dangerous - how is it safe for a 2.2 tonne vehicle towing 3.5 tonnes?
It's called physics. 100 grams nuts and bolts carry up entire bridges mate
@@JohnOskay good luck when you are towing a3.5 ton caravan over taking a semi trailer with a 2.2 ton Ute
@richardcharlton8259 Towing capacity of the chassis (maximum amount of mass the vehicle can pull) is different to towing performance. Good luck to anyone that will try to push it to the limit , I agree. We are just talking about different things.
@@JohnOskay Yes, 1000's of them
It's a piece of middle school physics knowledge that towing a trailer only requires more force than the force of friction rather than the force of gravity on the trailer.
BYD - novated lease that is FBT exempt, V2L V2H is coming as well as V2G. It’s a no brainer! Already ordered.
On power, we spotted in a Brazilian video a 6kw max output across 3 10a points in the tray.
You can already get 16a peak from the bidirectional charge point on some models, so there’s a strong possibility of more power from the Shark with a vtol adapter
I have a caravan so the BYD is not an option with its 2.5tonne towing. Please do a tow test with the BYD shark though when released. Towing its 2.5 tonne limit on a decent long trip with some hills etc so we can see how it goes once the batteries are low
what rating does your van need?
I like both of them. The phev battery size is disappointing and smaller than 10-year-old house batteries. But it has that 3.5t tow rating and could still power your work or camp site for hours.
I'd love to be able to buy a series hybrid, AWE, fully independent suspension small pickup truck in the USA, but a possible future Ranger PHEV is a step in the right direction.
I dont really need too much towing power and load capacity, I just want a large storage space for my outdoor sports equipment. and traditional pickup consume too much oil in my mind.
so on paper Shark really fit my requirements.
but I currently have a Chinese 7 seats version Ford Edge, and I have always preferred Ford chassis. so we will see.
Exactly. It also has better comfort and stronger acceleration, even faster acceleration than ordinary high-performance cars.
The next shark model will tow 3.5 tonne
I really love that Pro Power Onboard (plus I'm more of a traditional pick-up truck guy). I'll just have the Ford.
BYD all the way. If you like camping it seems to be a winner, use the engine to arrive at 70%, you're good for the weekend, induction cooking, fridge, heater overnight... no brainer for me. I just wait to see it on the road a couple of times, early adopters pay a price I can't afford :D
This is BYD's first truck
If the Shark had 3.5t towing capacity it would be on my list. I have a decent sized boat and need the tow capability. I was a little disappointed the Shark only has 2.5t, but it shows the EV brigade is getting close to a serious 4WD for people that tow big loads and dont want, or cant afford a LandCruiser or a huge american tank ute.
I don’t need to tow over 2 1/2 t and I drive less than 80 km a day. Will be interested to see how they go after two years of hard use. I’m interested.
Byd Shark for my money. The drive train in the Ranger is antiquated compared to the Shark. The extra range is also really handy.
I watched an US reviewer's video on BYD Shark yesterday, and in it they mentioned Shark overall is overwhelmingly good, way better than they thought it would be, but BYD may faces some brand-loyalty issues in the States if they manage to get in, since Toyota, Nissan, Ford etc etc have dominated the market for years.
I say, they know nothing about consumers, unless you are a millionaire buying a Mercedes S600, then the logo surely means everything. Otherwise, brand means nothing in front of cost-effectiveness and your wallet.
It’s irrelevant as you can’t get the car there😅
US National Security It's a joke😂
For budget conscious people, brand loyalty is also attached to its general reliability. People love Toyota because it will not let you down.
@@DrMafolo Toyota top managements had bowed quite few times in recent years for data falsifying............
Shark 100% - not a ford fan generally, but way better value for money, and larger EV range. Couldn't care less about towing capacity. Love the tech the shark is throwing in, hate how ute's always have to have dull interior's
@10:00 the BYD Shark is actually $58k +ORC, not $68k+ORC. That is the same as the 2.0L XLT.
Is the byd petrol motor made by the same co or is outsourced from another manufacturer?
Electrification knocking on the doors of middle Australia!! Gunna be fun to watch.
I'm pretty sure the electric dual motor system in Shark have automatic torque vectoring for both axels, which is basically an auto-locking smart differential. With +280mm clearance I can't wait to see how will it perform off-road.
Not having to wire up separate battery system etc. simplify so much for most non-hardcore offroaders.
Please do comparison of GWM P500 XSR PHEV, and BYD Shark.
LDV (Maxus) is also on the war path with their version, and it has an extra bonus, a midgate! can't wait for it to arrive down under.
the difference might be even higher if u wanna equip the extras in the ford that are standard in byd
One observation - most the comments are lyrical about the BYD (potentially not a bad vehicles), but it makes me wonder about bots writing reviews
It is comfort, relax, quiet and powerful for EV vehicles. Full option for standard car price is too attractive and everyone can't resist to take them home. Poor that American do not have a chance to get one.
I think its just a feeling of 'finally' someones not gouging the fuck out of us
Like most people in New Zealand, I've never towed anything of significance. Towing capacity means nothing to me. Shark 6 for me easy. I'd be embarrassed to be one of those tradie knobs who run around in a Ranger.
Can someone tell me, how’s the reliability of the BYD engine? Are they buying from other experienced manufacturers?
I owned a Ford Platinum, which was great, but my Shark is just another level.
Ford: BYD, you don’t have good towing capacity
BYD: yes, we know that and will address that issue next year
FORD: 😢
When I worked in computer sales we talked about vapourware. All unreleased products were amazing in every specification. Upon release we were all a little disappointed. Let’s wait to see what Ford actually release for sale to the public before we complete our judgement
Prices for this type of vehicle are well out of the reach for most people!....$90,000 for a Ford UTE?
I'd take the BYD any day but can't afford that either.
Wish we could get either in canada
sure buddy with 100% tariffs
They don't need to have 100% tariffs....
QUESTION - Where is the Ford PHEV being made? Ch Cha Chin ... ah???
DMO tech is miles better as the engine is not powering the wheel but use to charge the battery. Traditional engine loss 70% of energy while delivering drivetrain and the DMO has energy loss 20%. Stunning tech
We need more competition
The ranger can tow 7500 lbs no matter what the state of charge of the battery has. What I want to know is what can the Shark tow when the battery is depleted?
Yes... power doesn't change until you run out of petrol
@@mitchelljack1590 是的，shark拥有强大的发电机，即使电池没有电，利用燃油机发的电也能够完全满足直接驱动电机，并且比亚迪的发动机还可以直接驱动车辆
From the day the Ranger PHEV was announced, most people were saying 45km wasn't enough. At $40k cheaper, with 320KW & 80km EV only range, the BYD Shark will probably make the Ranger PHEV DOA.
The ford engineers are busy tearing down the BYD Shark to copy i meant borrow the design and rebadge it as the Ranger...True....Wooorddd
The byd has no driveline parts under the floor to catch a rock. Thats a win.
it's got a great big battery under the floor that doesn't like knocks. Go rock crawling in this thing and watch the fire. If you are a city only driver that wants a 4x4 ute....well good luck to you! I have a giggle at this pro EV site! NO person wanting to go "bush" for an extended period will buy an electric/PHEV ute!
@@danold6443 nobody is going to go rock-crawling in this and it has pretty beefy skidplates under it anyway
Love the concept of both … however when towing and hauling, once the BYD battery is depleted you are left with a measly 135kw 260nw engine Vs 222kw 452nw in the Ford.
Plus the BYD is morbidly obese, or very heavy … so horses for courses I guess.
Can you get away with a 40klm range and plug-in every night whilst in town with better driving dynamics and the backup of a strong engine for touring … or, go with the BYD with the convenience of a much bigger battery for around town and no problem if you forget to plug-in every night, plus a bigger battery which in theory should last longer as it loses energy density over its lifetime.
You don’t need low range in the Shark 6 because it’s electrically driven. Electric motors have 100% torque from Zero rpm. The engine “can” send power to the front axle but only at 70km/h & above.
Both will be unsuitable for any serious off-roading. 500km range is a minimum for far north.
Different applications of electrification. Ranger has a real traditional 4x4 driveline for those that need it.
BYD build your dream to many it will as price and what it delivers are ideal from over priced trucks or at least BYD would give there competitors a second thought in pricing
winner is BYD shark 🤩
In Mexico shark has a starting price for $53K equivalent for a midsize which is honestly a lot higher than I expected. I expected something in the $35K or at most mid $40K range (starting price of a Tacoma hybrid). Remember in Mexico a base Hilux starts at $20K equivalent while crew cab with diesel start at $30K or so BYD is twice as much
Yet its towing and payload a lot less, no solid axle means it is never gonna be as off-road capable. It uses e-CVT rather than traditional torque converter automatic. Its 30kwh or so battery is stored not in the interior like the Wrangler 4XE or TNGA-F product but outside underneath the cab. So repairing and replacing on that battery will take longer and cost more money. Some of the biggest problem of the BYD DMO platform.
This is not the game changer that some people hyped up to be
you cant talk abut the ranger being the benchmark because there isnt in reality. first it has to be in the road, selling and everything. I think every maker is wrong because there is not power outlets globally speaking, i think it makes a lot more sense, having a built in combustion generator with your car to power the batteries, then when its standard a charger every 100km internationally theeen you go full electric.
The ratings for V2L and the rear power socket are different. The Shark, V2L is 6kw's. I'm not sure about the power socket because it's different for 110v and 220v. V2L comes from the charging point and I don't think the Ranger has that.
Brilliant that BYD can throw a shark amongst the pigeons. If Ford want to survive, they’ll need to drop their pricing to match. Competition is great for the consumer! 🥳
Yeah, that very slow adaption into electrification by the legacy brands could be a real threat to those brands, it really doesn't look good
China just signed a deal with all of the countries in African, this gives their car maker 2.5 billion low income consumers to build cars for and this will include building more car factories in Africa like VW, Ford, GM and other do. So I expect the Chinese will be bringing out cars starting from $5k including 2WD drive Utes and 4WD from $20k. Given Africa's diesel & petrol distribution is poor I expect EV's to outsell ICE. Going to be an interesting year and don't forget it took BYD only one year to build a car plant in Thailand.....
Two power trains in a vehicle is for some reason,
A good thing?
Believe it or not, there is actually food for thought in some comments.
I was a firm believer the BYD was better platform, still think it maybe but currently its all speculation from a viewers prospective but saucy corner boy has seen a BYD Shark in its entirety, sat in it, smelt it, feeled it so he has an insight we're yet to experience.
I myself want that same insight.
Bring it on BYD, give us the same insight.
Well, as the owner of both Toyota Corolla hybrid and BYD Han Dmi, I think I have enough experience with HEV/PHEV. You must compare the output of engine when talking about hybrid cars, because the car cannot stay at maximum output power for long
The new BYD technology DMI's range uplight is just way ahead....it's almost unfair to compare it against the others now
Off reading use full regen on the Shark, you'll leave the petrol dopes far behind, Ford is having MAJOR engine issues with turbo hybrids, leave them for a couple years.
BYD SHARK has 6kW external discharge
Durability and service will tell.
I'm ready to preorder the byd shark, BUT, I need a Ute with either a canopy or a tub roller / cover, no matter how hard I've searched I can't even find a single picture of any of the sort for the byd shark, that will be the only thing stopping me ordering it when I can 😬
Aftermarket stuff appears so quickly these days.
This this is going to sell like hot cakes
no it wont, at least not in Australia. Australian ute buyers a snobs when it comes to brands. If it doesn't have a Ford to Toyota badge, then it wont sell in mass numbers, regardless of how good the competition is.
@@andyg9991 I'm from Australia and I want it
@@carspotting4325 As am I, but Im not interested in anything Chinese simply due to the CCP, but thats just me
Unlike a lot of city 4wd people I actually need a proper 4WD that can tow 3.5T with a proper tray back with toolboxes and ladder racks. Inverter is nice (I have a 3.5kW in my car now) Much prefer the A/C to have knobs Not real impressed with the dashboard as a computer screen. Maybey when it can come as a cab chassis I will look at it Until then its Dmax all the way. How much water can this thing handle?? I follow cyclones and storms around restoring power to telecommunication sites I wouldn't risk it on a toy car This cant even handle 1T in the back so you gotta leave half your tools behind.
Why not have a removable range extending battery that fits in the bed of the truck that can be removed when more payload capacity is needed ?
I own a ranger will be buying the shark next
Not sure if the Ford Ranger PHEV will be sold wordwide, BYD already has plans to sell in all markets except USA and Canada, tho im sure they are planning that for the future.
Seems the Ranger is going to be a compliance vehicle. It's a way for Ford to pass emissions testing while providing a vehicle that will be used in petrol mode 90% of the time.
BYD Shark for me
Whats the payload for this truck?
45km pure electric range is good enough…for a e-bike.
We get screwed in North America...so many interesting vehicles in the rest of the world while we get big, stuck trucks that suck!
Boo hoo. We have small, midsize and full size. Hybrid, Diesel, and EV trucks. Are you high?
And, Shark is only the 1st pickup Byd has made.
you missed the GVM/GCM/payload (beyond towing capacity)