It Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- Join Gary and Iain for a review and discussion of, It (1990) by Director, Tommy Lee Wallace. Starring, Annette O'Toole, John Ritter, Richard Thomas and Tim Curry.
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And I’m Gary”
Lmaooooooo
I’ve been watching you guys for around a year. You’re one of the few channels that have the same quality, approach and format for every video. That being said, you guys are amazing and do equally amazing work. Keep it up and thank you for the hours of entertainment ❤
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One of the moments from the adult half of the film that I really like is a very small, simple moment, but it's when the gang is leaving the hotel and have basically decided there's not much they can do, and especially Richie wants to "get the heck out of dodge." But just as he's leaving the hotel room, he turns around briefly to the TV to hear about a little girl, with her sweet little picture, being killed by, what he knows is It. It's very brief and subtle, but you almost see hints of sadness and guilt in his face while he's watching that, and I feel that's actually what changed his mind to stay and confront It.
gnc623 Yea, it’s those subtle moments in shows/movies I love when unspoken dialogue scenes still set up big character decisions that effect the outcome.
I agree
Tim curry was always great in his roles. Great review.
Mr Zeus when i met Tim it was sad seeing him after his Stroke. but he will always be my favorite actor
I agree with you 100%
Tim Curry is the highlight of almost every movie he's in. IT, RHPS, Fern Gully, Clue, you name it.
There seems to be almost unanimous consent with this movie - if you watched it when you were young or when it first came out, you tend to like it. If not, then forget it. It's like there was only a certain window of time to view this movie (or miniseries) in order to like it. I like it, but I saw it when I was 8 years old in 2000. Scared me to death. I've shown it to a few people who never saw before just a couple years ago, and they laughed at this movie and me for liking it. Your like or dislike of this movie almost completely depends on nostalgia.
I get what you mean, but my Mom never saw it but in 2017 after getting her to see the the remake got her to actually watch this and she loved IT.
You guys forgot John Ritter is most widely known as Jack Tripper from Three's Company.
Catspaw and the voice of Clifford the big red dog
That’s what I always think of him from. Not sure if Three’s Company was shown outside America, maybe that’s why they guys didn’t know them.
Have a knock on my door
@@villavelli We've been waiting for you.
@@rustykuntz94 Actually, Gary and Iain would probably be familiar with the original British version of "Three's Company", "Man About The House". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_About_the_House
Do you think that a book with this much text and background story would have fared better as a Netflix series ? They seem to be a great platform for long story series and are more fearless in the telling .
Blacques Jacques Good call. IT would be perfect for a series, so much more they could present
It’ll be a great hbo show
It would be a perfect as a show on Netflix
I remain in thinking still...
IT is not filmable!
what I like about this movie is the kids are actually pretty good actors and Tim Curry's a lot of fun
It took me to the age of 30 to realize that adult ben hanskim is being played by the same actor as the father in Problem Child and Bride of Chucky
In the book, Georgie questions the clown as to how he got in the drain, and Pennywise says It was because the "storm blew him and circus away". They should've kept that in the movie.
Stans head in the fridge makes no sense because none of them would even know what he looks like as an adult
They would still recognize him.
For some reason the bath suicide scene has stuck with me forever, it was done very well and capped the 'previously' intro on episode 2 really well
The major explanation is said directly!
"Derry is IT!"
"IT is Derry"
I remember watching this on VHS with my friend, after the first half ended & the credits started, he said "that wasn't so bad", & when the second part started he just yelled "goddammit!"
What were your thoughts on Richard Bellis' film score? His composition was unique compared to most contemporary horror scores
The Belch death is still the creepiest thing ever
Stephen King books have way too much detail to translate well into movies, but as you read, you can't help but think they would make great movies
I think that might also be the biggest problem with King's books, too much details. He spends too much times at points going into details that some times a book just drags.
@@Cwhirt910 I don't think that's ever a problem when it comes to books. In my opinion, books can't have enough detail.
Part 1: if Goonies was a Thriller
Part 2: Wanna Be Scooby-Doo Without the Dog
I always remember Richard Thomas more for the Waltons than anything else. Funny thing as well John Ritter was also in the Waltons with Richard Thomas. Tim Curry straight up stole the movie, he's just that powerful and amazing of an actor he just commands your attention and the jokes were terrible but the way he said them and goofed around made them funny. And I don't care what anyone says I love this movie, my Mom never saw IT before I got her to watch the 2017 version, then I got her to watch this version and she loved it as well, sadly she passed away before IT Chapter 2, know she would've enjoyed chapter 2.
This was a great review guys,A great way to start my day off.Thank you as always for all the time and effort that goes into all of your videos.
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Whats ironic is it is imitating real life. When we watched it as kids we thought it was scary. When we grew up moved on/away the thought of it still scared us until we revisited it and realised it wasn't
I always remember Richard thomas from the waltons
In the book It first attacks Georgie, rips his arm off and eats his heart, then he attacks a gay couple and eats their hearts too. That really freaked me out when i read it in 1987, and then the gang bang in the sewer and the druggie hallucinations about It's origins and the Turtle... heavy stuff for a teenager :-) I really hope the Turtle will appear or at least be referred to in the new film, it gave the book a deeper meaning and more dimension.
Not exactly -- the gay couple wasn't until the 1984- and it didn't attack them - three youths of the town attacked one of them and threw him off of the bridge; IT just took advantage of that brutal violent attack as a catalyst to wake up and start feeding. That attack during Derry Carnival was just to Adrian Melon, whom had his heart eaten out through the armpit.
Thanks for reminding me. I read the book in 1987 so my memory has deconstructed some details :-)
Did your memory get deconstructed into making it sound like Henry is gay and loves getting sucked off by Patrick like these guys seem to think?
Half of this stuff is BS.
IT eats neither Georgies heart nor the one of the one (!) gay guy IT kills.
There are no drug-induced hallucinations either.
I was scared shitless when I saw this movie as a kid 9-10 year old :D
The one part I like about part two was the restaurant scene
When the movie was in cinemas I was in a library and saw when a mother took the book and bought it for her 10 year-old son who was with her at the time.
I thought: "She didn"t read this book before. Poor kid".
in the book, the scene between Beverly and the rest of the gang was used to heal their sanity. They just came through one of the most harrowing experiences , and their psyches were very fragile. She used the sex to ground them all back to reality.
Bc that makes sense.............
This movie came out right around the time when stephen king stopped writing his books to be books and started writing them to be turned into movies, misery was his last really good book for a long time everything up to misery was pretty good but most of what came out in the next five to ten years was king trying to write screenplays in novel form.
There is a heavily extended cut of the next major stephen king based movie Needful Things that is four and a half hours and a directors cut that is almost six hours long.
Glad you guys said it, King is terrible at ending his books like this and The Shining.
In the book, the door was a door into the creature’s spaceship, not a dungeon door, like in the movie. In the book, most of the kids get high, and one of them sees that the creature had crashed onto earth before people were here, if I recall correctly, and then they eventually discover the door, and there’s this stark transition between the slimy caves of the sewer system and the clean metallic huge spaceship interior.
Bullshit, they never enter it's ship, it's a lair like in the movie.
It is also made clear that IT DIDN'T arrive in a spaceship, because IT is not your everyday alien.
And not one kid gets high in the book, they get their visions from ordinary smoke.
@@sidnew2739the op just made up bs lol
Thankfully the It 2017 adaptation was amazing! Hope you cover it soon.
Pennywise was there before the Town was there. It was basically built up as his feeding ground and when they kill him in the book the Town itself gets completely fucked up too.
I just discovered your reviews. Great work guys, glad I found you.
In the miniseries defense they had a very small budget and we're bound by network TV rules and regulations so they had to cut alot and didn't have the money for alot of effects. As for the melodrama of the adult actors that was kind of just the style of TV acting very dramatic very over the top.
GET OUT, GET OUT OF THERE.....Im dying with laughter
Thank you for pointing out the coke influence during the 80s. Success kind of went to Kings head at that time and the ideas, pages rolled on....
so gonna watch this when I have time, love it. hope you contrast and compare with the book, boys.
Really enjoy your review videos
I love the music from this miniseries.
I miss the 80s - 90s movie scores & music
I watched this movie last night, i had not seen it in years, this movie made me paranoid of clowns, going alone in dark and creepy places as a kid, not as scary now as an adult but i have a really nostalgic love for it, I remembered almost all of the first part but not so much of the second part and now i can see why. I just saw the movie trailer today and it looks very damn scary and good, cant wait to see it.
"Does (It) pass out from a food coma?" XD
I watched it as an adult I found it a nice fairy tale with some nostalgia element. My sister trembles if I mention it, guess when she did watch it.
I still like this movie very much, and still prefer it to the remakes of the past few years... After watching the remakes I immediately watched this originally and still like it better...
I think the fear of clowns has more to do with John Wayne Gacy
I was about to make this same comment.
I doubt that. Here in Germany, hardly anybody even knows that name, but about everybody I know saw "IT" and
Clownophobia is really a thing here.
Don't forget: The book exists, too, and is widely considered as one, if not THE best Stephen King work.
1:50 Nice Johnny Cash shirt Gary, I have one myself!! Plus i got me a little cd collection of Johnny Cash as well. Rock on man!
I remember seeing this movie as a little kid on the shelf at my local video rentel store and the cover alone kinda freaked me out and it always stuck with me. So i looked it up years later and yeah its dated now and like you said the stuff with the kids is okay but overall i was pretty disappointed and wasnt scared once really. Oh by the way you guys should totally review the problem child movies!
IT was trapped in the shadow spider form while the challenge was made! During the exorcism ritual IT could not use IT's powers in the material realm.
thebatmanover9000 what?
Why was it trapped ?
Ah! What a great way to start my day off! Awesome review guys, I can't wait for the next one. I'm not a huge fan of this mini series but the book's a classic.
Even as a kid, I thought the acting was cheesy. However, it's worth watching just for Tim Curry playing the clown. In the 1980s, there were a lot of movies that were labeled 'made for tv', which means it was basically a movie with tv show quality actors, with tv show quality scripts, and tv show budgets, but was packaged for TV. This is definitely was one of them. I don't think they really use that label much anymore. I also found it funny comparing the allusion to menstruation in the original vs. the remake. But then again, this had to be shown on TV, and in the 1980s, it would not been considered 'brave' to smear menstrual blood all over your face.
Henry Bowers in the novel is a frightening monster of a kid but you do see how horrible he’s treated by his Father and understand violence and negativity is all he has ever known. And the Dad blames Mike’s Father for putting him out of work and that’s how the racism angle came in to play
that movie scared the crap out of me when i first saw it when i was 8. i cant wait for the new movie to come out i herd its going to be dark and more like the book. i love the book its my favorite Stephen king book.
Mine too
Am I the only one who likes the scene where Beverly gives herself to her friends? I don’t see it as a “gangbang” per se...it was just as she said “It’s something I can do...” She brings the group back together so they can find their way out of the sewers. For me, it was a way to see sex as not just a physical act but a bonding one too; ushering them into adulthood together just as they came together as kids.
In a way it makes sense cause they were all falling apart and IT would have killed them but also people can't get past the under age sex thing, so i see both sides. I buy King's Explanation for it even though at that time he was doing buckets of Cocaine. lol
In the future you all should do a review of the modern It and It chapter 2
ABC, the network that had the rights to this were the reason for the watering down of the movie. They tied Tommy Lee Wallace's hands in a lot of ways. It began as a 10 part series but ABC got cold feet about the cost and the violence in the story so they slashed the budget and ordered a script re-write. Then halfway thru the shoot slashed the budget yet again so Tommy Lee Wallace couldn't finish the film properly and had to improvise which is something he is well versed at. I think for what he had to put up with from ABC and for the time and the budget constraint's he did the best he could with what he had to work with. A lot of stuff was left out because of it also being unable to film for television due to the underage sex and the Murder of the gay guy at the beginning of the book, it was 1990 and they weren't gonna show that on a major network like NBC. And yeah the Spider effect was god awful i won't try to defend that god awful thing haha.
After watching the highlander review, green room, red state and now this, you guys have earned a new subscriber!! It’s so refreshing to see people who love filmmaking geeking out about what is great about movies instead of bitching and complaining about what they didn’t like!
Well done!!
I watched IT when I was in high school I think, when my brother and sister were still young. For some reason I'm still not sure, they decided to watch it with me, and it traumatised them (they still hate clowns now apparently). The scary parts of this movie are mostly so subtle, that they disappeared before I jumped, and that sort of leave something hanging midair, which I didn't like. I don't remember much of the scenes, but I remember I enjoyed the movie very much as a horror. It would be interesting to know what you think of the new IT.
This isn't a great or terrifying movie but it's a respectable adaptation.
Yeah unfortunately you can't expect too much horror-wise from ABC circa 1990 LOL I was 15 at the time and it didn't scare me, but I loved the story and It is one of my favorite King novels.
I like to think of this movie as a full-length special of Goosebumps or Are You Afraid of the Dark. It's great children's horror. Of course, you have to be in a certain frame of mind while watching it.
Henry's donning the Misfits' Devillock (hairdo)
He wants their Skulls for his London Dungeon.
That point while hitch hiking makes soo much sense! “Ooooh your the fat boy!”
Actually, it was MY first horror-movie as a kid. I was ten or eleven. Half a year later or so I saw my second one- "A Nightmare On Elm Street", which was really another level.
Harry Anderson played in the American sitcom night court it was a funny TV show R.I.P. harry Anderson.
The new movie in the works should definitely be rated R
That intro music is so creepy. I love it 😅
Love your reviews! As for the TV series being watered down....I think it had to be, as they were dealing with broadcasting restrictions. The movies had a completely different vibe.
But I think for what it had to work with, the miniseries did a great job of following the book.
Tommy Lee wallis directed resurrection and Halloween 2
christopher krause , no that’s Rosenthal.
He's (it) the turtle thing, he exits in the Dark Tower universe too.
Christine is in IT, she drives a character somewhere.
The IT univers is revisited in kings later novels like the kennedy assasination one and insomnia, the characters got a statue erected to honour the victims..... just a bit geeky, like
just started watching you guys because of your The Excorsict review. You guys really do great analyses. Love to hear your thoughts on The Shining!
I actually love the ending of the book and didn't think it was anticlimactic at all. They even have that awesome mind battle in the book, which was so well written...The movie's finale is horrible though, so we can agree on that.
Great review guys i really enjoyed this review of It this was very nostalga for me because i rembered watching this on vcr when i was a kid in fear after watching it and always checking my closet and looking underneath my bed because of this movie haha , But everytme i watch you guys i feel like your channel deserves more regonition than it gets, also have you guys seen the ginger snaps movie trilogy or Blood diner if so what you ever do a review on either of the two
You guys got a couple things wrong about the book but not to far off in some regards, i just finished to the audio book so it is fresher in my mind. So spoilers ahead. 1) Henry Bowers didn't get a BJ in the book from Patrick Hockstetter he got a hand job. When Patrick offered to "suck him off" he came to his senses in the book as he was in a sorta daze and said no then started to berate Patrick about the ordeal. 2) IT being a spider was explained in the book a lot better because IT is a pan-dimensional being made of light and that the human mind can't comprehend. It only appears as a spider because that is what there mind could hand, which is a near quote from the Bill in the book. IT having eggs was weird though. 3) The controversial "gang-bang" which was actually just a train as they all took separate turns in a pitch black tunnel. This happened because after they "killed" IT the group got lost both physically and mentally as their entire purpose for being together was done. Bev found a way to keep them together. Also i heard King was high on coke at the time. 4) The Dog thing was explained better in the book as IT turns into your greatest fears and the orderly was afraid of pit bulls.
nice work lad's been watching your channel for a couple of years now & have the same taste in movies as you both. I grew up in the 80s & would really like your takes on critters 1,2,3 &4 I've asked you to review them before. Also if you get chance to review another Stephen King trilogy Sometimes they come back, Sometimes they come back again, & sometimes they come back for more. the later I've only just realised it exists. it would be much appreciated, cheers from Mansfield Town keep up the amazing work Danny C
Great as always boys.
Few things:
1.
Bela jumped up and down when she saw the thumbnail. LOL
2.
Ya'll are so right about it being a good kids "introduction to horror" movie. After all - it was good enough for us 80's kids ;) My girls love it and they don't notice the horrible adult acting (yet).
3.
When Iain said, "The ending is just WEAK. I wasn't sure if it was just me as a kid..."
Bela said, "It wasn't you, bro..."
4.
When Iain acted out the orderly death by dog head scene, I almost DIED laughing.
5.
Gary, I just finished reading It. Mostly so that I could tell Bela an "edited summary" of each chapter (she wanted to read it herself so that was the compromise). And... man you are not wrong. It's fucking ridiculous hardcore. LOL.
Oh! And - during the spider show down - there's that part where It throws Bill's spirit through space and time. Bill - holding on to the spider by its tongue - flies past the cosmos - passing the turtle (who was the accidental creator of our universe and the reason the kids had some power against pennywise), and hurtling toward the macroverse, where the actual true form of It was waiting to merge Bill into itself.
What. The. Fuck.
Yeahhhhhhh....
Good luck making that into a movie!!
Yeah, good review, please review the remake🙏👍
The stuff in the book should have been in the movie
Eddy had a wife in the book. She looked like his mother.
Talking off charismatic evil characters in horror films, I thought Freddy started to be like that in Nightmare on Elm Street 3. Especially when he rams the girls head into the television on the wall and says “ Primetime Bitch!! “. Also the bit with Zsa Zsa Gabor on the chatshow!! This adaptation of IT isn’t one of my favourite films but I watched it mainly for Tim Curry’s performance. He is absolutely brilliant and plays the evil clown, Pennywise, to perfection.
Gary is right - Stephen King has no idea how to end his books. All of his endings suck, especially the ones for The Stand and The Dark Tower.
The kids in this movie were great actors!!! It made the movie.
I remember seeing this back in 93 when I was 8, I was too scared to watch it to the end so I never saw the end till I was 12, I thought it was rubbish but I just saw it again recently and I actually liked it. The meaning to the film is about fear, fear of growing up for the kids and coming of age. Then the adults get the fear again, during their midlife crisis, the fear of growing old the fear of death. The fear of life hits people at these ages and pennywise represents that fear as an entity.
Thoroughly enjoy you guys. Would love to see you review "The Game" directed by David Fincher :)
This movie is the reason I have a severe fear of clowns. To this day I can't stand clowns.
YES! Finally!
See now when i was a kid, i never quite understood the story, like when Pennywise said ' they all float down here ', i automatically envisioned images of dead bloated bodies of children floating in sewage water and that scared the shit out of me! i don't think i go to the end. After watching it again as a teenager i watched it in it's entirety i was so disappointed....
Have you ever noticed that America has this weird obsession with having a monster that can infest the world with it's young?
13:46 Ahahahahaha, that reaction to the homosexual part is priceless....
After seeing your review video of IT now I'm addicted to seeing more. And I certainly didn't know about the gangbang in the book (Course I never read the book). But now I want to read IT I have read other Stephan King novels but after all the hype about the new movie I definitely want to read this book. Tim Curry was a beast as Pennywise.
Amazing videos, could you review Alien 3?
I can't wait till the Remake!!
i REALLY liked the remake but this is definitely a classic
When the kids have sex to become "one" was actually one of my favorite parts of the book, the bond it creates between them fits the story the time the situation etc theyre kids not adults and i still think its written well. I was wondering how they would do that in the movie reboot as they were sticking to the book more.....im wondering if in part 2 they will do a flashback into that situation or completely dismiss it. It would have to be done tastefully of course and reading something written and seeing a film are totally different things.
Fright Night was written and directed by Tom Holland, not Tommy Lee Wallace. He did however direct the sequel.
If like to point out that in America when someone mentions being a Christian it just implied that they are good or holier than thou. Ben wasn’t at all at odds with his aunts Christianity, that isn’t an issue, she only mentioned it as a colloquialism
Out of curiosity, have you guys reviewed Silver Bullet already?
We haven't reviewed that one yet :)
Please do! I'd like to hear your thoughts on it, whether it be positive or negative. ^_^
This will ALWAYS be my favorite movie!!!!!
After watching Chapter 2 I don't think the second part of the 1990 miniseries is deserving of the criticism it continues to get. I don't think it's so much that the chemistry's not there, I think it's just that they're adults, and with adults it's just different. It's not a coincidence that with both the 1990 miniseries and the new movies that the second part is the weakest. Kid's are just different. It's easier to buy that these children are all friends and care about each other than it is to buy the same in adults. I don't find anything wrong with any of the adult actors portrayals in either version, it's just that when you become an adult you change, you become more and more jaded as time goes on, and i feel that the fact that this change is observable in both versions actually makes them both seem more realistic. The characters seem out of place and uncomfortable, just as adults would in real life if they were reconnecting with childhood friends they hadn't seen in 27 years. It works for me, and that's true for both adaptations.