Maybe they brought in less experienced assistants because I dunno, in his time as a four-time premiership coach he birthed a host of other premiership coaches in the AFL including Simpson, Hardwick Beveridge. Around half the current AFL coaches are former Clarkson assistants.
You could have the greatest coach to ever exist and North would still be battling. With the list they have, they aren't going to be a competitor. Sure they've got some great talent but just aren't surrounded by good enough players. For Norths sake and the AFL I hope they continue to improve, Clarko has taken over a basket case if a club - it isn't his fault.
It’s going to take time. Look at Melbourne, they were a joke for nearly 15 years. It’s been a tough few years as an eagles supporter, so I feel for the north faithful.
"Essendon looked at Alastair, they went with Brad". LOL! Yes because Clarko had already signed with the Roos after he'd declined the Essendon offer, so the Bombers were stuck with the consolation prize. My god this woman talks some crap to suit her own narrative.
As an arm chair supporter for many years, my take is that some clubs recruit poorly and become stuck with mediocre players for years which significantly impacts clubs. As an example the 4 or 5 best players at a poor performing club are second tier or average compared to those at winning clubs. Lists are built around these second tier players, for years, and the issue compounds. Next minute you have a culture that's accepting of losing.
Everyone was on board when Clarkson took the job, now that it's taking more than 18 months to rebuild they've turned on him (what a surprise). Trading in McKercher, Duursma, Goad, Dawson and Hardeman (literal 18 year olds) can't replace the size and experience of McKay, Thomas, Cunnington, Hall, Ziebell and Goldy. I think Clarkson is doing the same thing as he did when he started at Hawthorn with a youth policy. Get the kids playing early, have them come through together, form bonds, form trust and do pre-seasons together. The hardship will be worth it if the club and team ends up being a quarter as successful as what the Hawks were under Clarkson.
Laura Kane spent her time at north Melbourne educating the men’s team on the difference between men and women’s sport (not kidding). The most important thing in building a winning football program is understanding how men oppress women 😂😂
Another DEPLORABLE "gender quota" appointment that has hurt the football club. The people who have a stranglehold on the board view football as a secondary matter to promoting their political agendas and it MUST cease!
No mate, they're BETTER......but INEXPERIENCED!🤣 Sonja Hood appointed David Noble and actually wanted to retain David Noble ahead of Clarkson! Source: CAROLINE WILSON on Footy Classified!
They'd do well to pick up nearly retired premiership players from Geelong or similar teams at the end of the season. GWS signing Stevie Johnson was a big part of making that that club of youngsters into a genuine premiership threat
Simply boils down to adapting to the players you are given and building the right system around them to get the best out of them. Take Malcolm Blight for example. Two time Premiership Coach at the Crows in 97 and 98. He then moves to the Saints at the beginning of the 2000's after the Tim Watson disaster at the end of the 90's and does an absolutely abysmal job.He gets sacked mid way through the 2001 season and Grant Thomas takes over and all of the sudden they almost instantly become a competitive team and make top 4 and the Preliminary Final just 3 year later.
Bare in mind footy classifieds whole angle is critical analysis, which is why we all continue to watch and find value in it, even when or if individual personalities on the panel rub us the wrong way. The upshot of this is that at any given moment there is a team in first place to cream over and a team in last place to kick while they’re down, it’s just the nature of what is otherwise a generally compelling show
To be fair I feel North Melbourne's problem is being bottom for of the ladder for so long with no improvement in sight or directional plan from the club has really effected the mental health of their players I'm not surprised they're playing like they don't want it anymore, like full blown accepted their situation and given up
Ok, ok, ok, here's an assessment of the list, using the players numbers: 1 Greenwood - a battler, not AFL grade but tries hard 2 JS - a free rider, not a defensive effort in 2 years 3 - genuine good player 4 - a grandma can defend better than this clown 5 - question marks 6 - big reputation but nothing delivered yet 7 - too early to assess 8 - battler 9 - another free rider. Looking for big pay day to StKilda 10 - too early to assess 11 - battler 12 - overrated, worst (co) captain in history of club 13 - question marks 14 - why is he on our list? 15 - too early to assess 16 - VFL standard 17 - too early to assess 18 - too early to assess 19 - VFL standard 20 - good genuine player. Should be sole Captain 21 - what a joke 22 - who? 24 - question marks 25 - good player. Big team will snare him. 26 - tragedy for everyone 27 - fragile 28 - what a joke 29 - ever heard of tackling? 30 - fragile, snaps like a twig 31 - who? 32 - who? 33 - who? 34 - only made the list on memories of his father. He's no Daicos. 35 - VFL standard. 36 - who? 37 - unknown skills 38 - battler 39 - VFL standard 40 - VFL standard 41 - VFL standard 42 - too early to assess 44 - mentally checked out a year ago, waiting on big money from Essendon 45 - unknown 46 - unknown
Caro once again rewriting history saying Dons & Gws went for Scott & Kingsley over Clarko. No they didn't. It was the other way around; Clarko said no to them 1st. 2 years ago all the media said North needed an experienced coach after Shaw & Noble. Now all of a sudden North should have chosen Kingsley? Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
LDU is NOT our best player and never has been. I hate this narrative. Sheezel is head and shoulders above everyone else. LDU plays 3 great games a year THAT'S IT. Wish we took Naughton.
Kangas supporter, yes he most definitely was our best player especially last year 😂😂 alongside Larkey, going by how players improve this year should have been his breakout year but has definitely been underwhelming, to me it looks as if he is very unmotivated and not going in as hard as he once did
I feel there is a lack of great minds in the coaching department at the moment and Clarke had his time like Malthouse did at west coast also Clarke had a great team to work with at hawthorn like Malthouse at west coast.
Did he ever have it or did he have a great team at Hawthorn? North have been in the VFL/AFL since around the same time as Hawthorn - but the difference is stark. They have won flag after flag and we've had 2 good periods - the Barassi era and the Carey era.
@@swamistyleThat's right. Most women's narcissism and hypocrisy means they'll pretty much ALWAYS back up other females except when the male involved is family /friends.
I’m a Don however when the Roos needed a coach everyone of these clowns said get Clarko. At the end of the day you’re only as good as the players you have. Give the Roos priority picks help sort them before Tassie comes in. 😉🇦🇺👊
I am a 60 year Hawk supporter Seen the good times & bad Clarko knows what he is doing Hardwicke Gold coast coach is a similar age & winning profile as clarko but apparentky hes the right man for gold coast & clarko is not for north now ? What a load of rubbish Cornes do better you dirty flog
If the AFL are genuine about evening the competition, you give the bottom 5 teams each year, 4 out of the first 20 in the draft. It would catapult teams up and get rebuilds quicker.
I think no matter what coach they have, the club is going nowhere, they just don’t have a good amount of great players, people give Clarko a bunch of credit for the 4 flags, but leave out the fact he had a plethora of talent at his disposal, it’s a completely different story at North, there’s not many players you can hang your hat on, Larkey, Zurhaar, Sheezel, Simpkin and Curtis are probably the most notable players I can think of that can play good most weeks, everyone else is hit and miss, mostly miss, when they’re all switched on they can play, or even win, but it’s so few and far between.
WTF ? don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative , GWS went Kingsley because Clarko said NO to that job , Essendon went and got Brad for reason , even in the last week they were trying to recruit Clarkson , those are facts , geez these people have less credibility than tabloid Jurnos
Give Clarko a chance, he’s paying for the sins of Brad Scott who stripped that roos list while Brad Scott gets pats on the back for inheriting a list filled with top picks but still does bugger all. The only difference between Dimma and Clarko are the lists they walked into, ones called a genius and the others called washed up
Paying for the sins of something that happened 8 years ago. Yeh sorry not buying it. That club has plenty of time to write those wrongs and the fact is even when Brad Scott was removed mid way 2019 they still refused to do a rebuild for a another 2-3 years. So you really can't put much blame on him anymore.
Not to mention Brad Scott got them to two prelims with a relatively average list.. Any of those players that got moved on from North would be well and truly retired. The club has had ample time to replace them
Yeah I don’t think I explained what I was trying to say properly. All I was saying is that the club has been in shambles for a long time now due to the decisions of people that have moved on and washed their hands of it and it’s hard to blame the guy that’s been there since breakfast
Your been lucky so far .I posted something about Brad Scott and l got hammered people like Damian Barrett can't see the damage he done to the cub spent years not given young guys a go how many good players left because of that .
Last 3 seasons at the Hawks Clarkson didnt show anything but at the same time the rebuild started when he arrived, forget the years before, takes about 3 ys before any real improvements start to show, at some point they will get a run on for a short time...
Why are they surprised, Clarko was incredible at Hawks until mid 2010's, after that he was just recruiting recycled players & going downwards, hasnt been the force he was for 8+ years, that was a very long time ago in football terms
Have a look at the big smile on Kane Cornes face at the start of this video. His hatred for North Melbourne shines through n through right there. However, his points on the effort (mainly LDU) is spot on. This coming from someone who hates Kane Cornes Caro is such a liar. When are the other panel members going to finally call her out?
I love how the smug flogs, including Clarkson, had a crack at Essendon, at the time when Clarkson was appointed. Bombers having the last laugh now. Basket case club who need to move to Canberra or Darwin. Popcorn 🍿 watching Kingy getting worked up.
What hurts North the most or what these speakers don't recognise when comparing to Carlton & Melbourne or any other clubs that have hit rock bottom the past 20 years, is that North is a small club. They don't have the pull and big-club reputation that Carlton and Melbourne have. It'll be a greater achievement for North to get themselves out of this than that of Carlton & Melbourne
The whole draft system is designed around bottom teams bouncing back. The fact North Melbourne haven't is on them, they should be back to a top eight side by now.
@Fiasco3 I'm specifically referring to Cornes' point of paying overs for C-grade players. There's no appeal for big names. North have tried. Years ago they offered Martin what would have been a record contract. They've also tried to lure Kelly from GWS among others I'm sure. Your point regarding the draft is also moot because that in itself is a broken system. North should have been able to draft both N. Daicos and W. Ashcroft if it weren't for father-son. Jed Walter before Durrsma if it weren't for academy selection, etc.
I'm not a NM supporter, but honestly it's too early for those types of calls and comments.. Clarko had a disrupted season last year and this is like his 6th game of an actual season.. Give them an actual chance..
Fans can see it 1 and a half years+ of skill drilling and supposive new game-style and there is nothing to show for it. They are playing exactly the same. They have a few players trying to win games solo, but no team shape.
Those LDU clips were a reach, 1st one he nearly intercepts it and the 2nd he doesnt chase to tackle because 4 of his teammates were about to wrap up the dude, he couldnt get there before them lol Does he need to teleport in that situation?
North should simply move to Tasmania and get some draft concessions. Play a Tassie jumper in Hobart, (green and red stripes?) and use the North jumpers on the mainland. They can still have a base at Arden St until the new Tassie stadium is built but this is smelling too much like Fitzroy.
@@lukemckean6155 Yes but it doesn’t make sense and North is a basket case. Would Brisbane or Sydney exist without Fitzroy or South Melbourne. The comp doesn’t need more teams. There’s not enough talent. And Victoria still has too many teams for a ‘National’ comp. What I’m talking about is the preservation of North, not some contrived team like Gold Coast!
Plus, if you keep the comp to 18 teams and split it into 3 divisions, every team plays each other once and the divisions play each other twice, you’ve got 22 rounds. Makes more sense. North/Tassie can play 7 home games in Hobart and 4 @ Marvel. Hawthorn can still play 4 @ Launceston. That way Tassie still gets 11 home games. The comp can’t afford a 19th team!
I think that Tarryn Thomas delisting, if he finds another home should be compensated by AFL. He should not be playing football at the highest level full stop. If he is employed by another club - I think Hutchy is right, they deserve some compensation. Maybe a start of second round draft pick.
Why? That only happens when teams cannot financially sustain themselves. North are fine financially. The only issue is just their list and on-field performance, which happens to every club.
Leigh Mathews said you can't win with duds ...and that coaching is overated ...that list is shocking in terms of talent depth ...it's lack talent Players are trying
The arrogance in media needs to be called out. Yeah he takes the money in soft cap. I suggest some of the media making more mistakes per week without accountability earn more. Call yourself out. Be media, Be critical, demand more of yourself. Which media is being investigative against the other? No one Tall poppy system
All comes down to the players and the talent you have. Clarko had talent at Hawthorn. North will be fine, they just need more talent. Carlton were no different.
Clarko was never a good coach to be honest. All he did was invent that putrid chip mark game style that ruined the game. It’s easy to look like a good coach when you got the best list in the comp. but what has he actually done since all those Hawthorne legends moved on? Absolutely nothing
"They have a better President and CEO, but they're both inexperienced".......yet Clarkson is the problem?!?!?! This is Caroline Wilson in a nutshell, the President SONJA HOOD and the CEO JENNIFER WATT are both.......🥁🥁🥁........WOMEN! The fact that this somehow makes them "better" gives an insight in to the way Wilson's mind works and why her opinions aren't worth anything. Clarkson isn't the problem, it's the administration. They created this mess through their ineptitude. FACT.
Simple fix. Tarryn should be forced to go in to the draft and the draft pick that grabs him should be passed on to North as compo*. *North cannot bid on him.
How can caroline who has zero understanding of football question the coaches and say there are better across the competition. Clarkson and co didnt recruit 90% of the spuds on this team. Give the man time, hes been there for 1 year, last year barely counts . This is just an excuse to bash north as usual from this bunch of flogs
Brad Scott stayed 2 years too long.. The rebuild should have started back then, with the experienced players that were there. There is no experienced support as Clarkson had to get Shiels over from Hawthorn
I Dont know even if Clarkson is the right coach for North Melbourne either. History shows rebuild coaches don't last the rebuild. North might have been better to get Adam Kingsley before he got to the giants instead of offering everything more than the kitchen sink for Clarkson What worked at Hawthorn 15 plus years ago doesn't mean it will work for North in the rebuild.
Essendon wanted Clarko ya d#%*head Caro, Brad Scott was their backup plan, and how could anyone predict how good a first time head coach in Kingsley would be? We went with 2 1st timers already so of course you’re not going to do that for a 3rd time 🙄
Culture, is a load of crap. As a Carlton supporter, I can attest. It's, confidence, that's the key. Of course, some really good players helps a bit too.....
They copied zone defense from other sides, but they can't play it. They play far too away from their direct opponent. Other teams can chip the ball around them training drill style all day long. All the poor levels of general football skills that have kept them on the bottom of the ladder are still there. They don't advance in waves (with players along side them), just predictable straight line hand-ball, that's easily cut-off. They chip across goal, kick to outnumbered or ill-matched contests. Tackling is practically non-existent. In marking contests they don't have crumbing small forwards at the back. Basic footy all missing.
Is Caro getting cognitively impaired or she purposefully lying? Clarkson turned down GWS. Said he was not moving interstate. Essendon made a last ditch attempt at Clarkson before settling for Brad Scott. Essendon beware, where north are at the moment is very much due to Scott. Traded out 1st round picks that ended up being Butters and Serong. Brought in blokes like Polec, Pittard, also Dom Tyson, Marley Williams (I think, plus more)…. All in an attempt to keep north competitive and save his job. Doing similar at Essendon. This north Melbourne list biggest issue by far are the players 24+…. None of them can help the younger kids. Desperately need on field leaders.
Clarkson was a great coach when he had a great list. Now he has a bad list he is no longer a great coach. Just like Malthouse, Pagan, Sheedy, Barrassi, Leigh Matthews, Allan Jeans the list goes on and on.
Maybe they brought in less experienced assistants because I dunno, in his time as a four-time premiership coach he birthed a host of other premiership coaches in the AFL including Simpson, Hardwick Beveridge. Around half the current AFL coaches are former Clarkson assistants.
WTF is Wilson talking about. The president's social media has zero to do with winning and losing games. She needs to retire.
That’s women for ya. Play the blame game when things don’t go their way
They both do
@@ninjaturtle258😂😂😂
now that richmond are garbage again she has become even more unhinged
She’s literally clueless but will have a permanent voice in football because she was the pioneer for feminism in football.
You could have the greatest coach to ever exist and North would still be battling.
With the list they have, they aren't going to be a competitor. Sure they've got some great talent but just aren't surrounded by good enough players.
For Norths sake and the AFL I hope they continue to improve, Clarko has taken over a basket case if a club - it isn't his fault.
It’s going to take time. Look at Melbourne, they were a joke for nearly 15 years. It’s been a tough few years as an eagles supporter, so I feel for the north faithful.
It's been 30 yrs go roos
@@DomenicoLogiudice-lp3qh 58 years for the Saints and counting inept on steroids
Thanks.
29 years for Carlton. Lived every second
I agree, he is paying for past failures at the draft and trade table
"Essendon looked at Alastair, they went with Brad". LOL! Yes because Clarko had already signed with the Roos after he'd declined the Essendon offer, so the Bombers were stuck with the consolation prize. My god this woman talks some crap to suit her own narrative.
How hutchy gets a pay check absolutely mind boggles me!
Writes it himself.😂
the dude owns media companies thats how he does it.
As an arm chair supporter for many years, my take is that some clubs recruit poorly and become stuck with mediocre players for years which significantly impacts clubs. As an example the 4 or 5 best players at a poor performing club are second tier or average compared to those at winning clubs. Lists are built around these second tier players, for years, and the issue compounds. Next minute you have a culture that's accepting of losing.
And been true a long time. Carlton's punishment early 2000s affected their next near 20 years
Has Malthouse going to Carlton vibes all over it.
Or Malcolm Blight's disastrous time at the Saints in the beginning of the 2000's.
You mean Pagan
@@dakidd729well it would be both wouldn't it?
Daniel Macpherson was good at hosting dancing with the stars as well. Talented man
I thought everybody at North had accepted Clarko was given a 4 year mandate to turn the club around? Hes only 18 months in.
Yeh it's been a slow news cycle. They gotta get views somehow.
Too rite
@@alannowland9300 ; ]
Everyone was on board when Clarkson took the job, now that it's taking more than 18 months to rebuild they've turned on him (what a surprise). Trading in McKercher, Duursma, Goad, Dawson and Hardeman (literal 18 year olds) can't replace the size and experience of McKay, Thomas, Cunnington, Hall, Ziebell and Goldy. I think Clarkson is doing the same thing as he did when he started at Hawthorn with a youth policy. Get the kids playing early, have them come through together, form bonds, form trust and do pre-seasons together. The hardship will be worth it if the club and team ends up being a quarter as successful as what the Hawks were under Clarkson.
Laura Kane spent her time at north Melbourne educating the men’s team on the difference between men and women’s sport (not kidding).
The most important thing in building a winning football program is understanding how men oppress women 😂😂
Another DEPLORABLE "gender quota" appointment that has hurt the football club. The people who have a stranglehold on the board view football as a secondary matter to promoting their political agendas and it MUST cease!
I know right . The suffering.😢😢😢😢😂😂😂
Those running the club are totally inept. One win in 12 months and it was the one they shouldn't have won. Nobody knows what they are doing.
No mate, they're BETTER......but INEXPERIENCED!🤣 Sonja Hood appointed David Noble and actually wanted to retain David Noble ahead of Clarkson! Source: CAROLINE WILSON on Footy Classified!
12 wins over 4 years. They will eventually bounce back.
All greats have an expiry date and Clarkson is no different. The game has passed him by but Clarkson's ego is what keeps the flame alive
If only Clarko could get his hands on another Luke Hodge and Buddy Franklin. That Hawthorn team was stacked.
They wouldn’t draft them even if they were available lol
Like a Harley Reid?
I don’t think this has anything to do with clarko
They'd do well to pick up nearly retired premiership players from Geelong or similar teams at the end of the season. GWS signing Stevie Johnson was a big part of making that that club of youngsters into a genuine premiership threat
Why don’t they get dean lady too coach again
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 why not. After all it is 🤡🌎
Too many Melbourne clubs for a nashy comp. It’s time for North to go back to VFL.
The coach is only as good as the players. How many premiership coaches have failed when switching to another club.
Simply boils down to adapting to the players you are given and building the right system around them to get the best out of them. Take Malcolm Blight for example. Two time Premiership Coach at the Crows in 97 and 98. He then moves to the Saints at the beginning of the 2000's after the Tim Watson disaster at the end of the 90's and does an absolutely abysmal job.He gets sacked mid way through the 2001 season and Grant Thomas takes over and all of the sudden they almost instantly become a competitive team and make top 4 and the Preliminary Final just 3 year later.
Coaches also need to adapt to a game that evolves over time. I think the game might be passing Clarko by.
Bare in mind footy classifieds whole angle is critical analysis, which is why we all continue to watch and find value in it, even when or if individual personalities on the panel rub us the wrong way. The upshot of this is that at any given moment there is a team in first place to cream over and a team in last place to kick while they’re down, it’s just the nature of what is otherwise a generally compelling show
Literally said the same thing bout West Coast a few weeks ago
To be fair I feel North Melbourne's problem is being bottom for of the ladder for so long with no improvement in sight or directional plan from the club has really effected the mental health of their players I'm not surprised they're playing like they don't want it anymore, like full blown accepted their situation and given up
Put north in the VFL where they belong. There holding up the betterment of the comp
Agree.
Ok, ok, ok, here's an assessment of the list, using the players numbers:
1 Greenwood - a battler, not AFL grade but tries hard
2 JS - a free rider, not a defensive effort in 2 years
3 - genuine good player
4 - a grandma can defend better than this clown
5 - question marks
6 - big reputation but nothing delivered yet
7 - too early to assess
8 - battler
9 - another free rider. Looking for big pay day to StKilda
10 - too early to assess
11 - battler
12 - overrated, worst (co) captain in history of club
13 - question marks
14 - why is he on our list?
15 - too early to assess
16 - VFL standard
17 - too early to assess
18 - too early to assess
19 - VFL standard
20 - good genuine player. Should be sole Captain
21 - what a joke
22 - who?
24 - question marks
25 - good player. Big team will snare him.
26 - tragedy for everyone
27 - fragile
28 - what a joke
29 - ever heard of tackling?
30 - fragile, snaps like a twig
31 - who?
32 - who?
33 - who?
34 - only made the list on memories of his father. He's no Daicos.
35 - VFL standard.
36 - who?
37 - unknown skills
38 - battler
39 - VFL standard
40 - VFL standard
41 - VFL standard
42 - too early to assess
44 - mentally checked out a year ago, waiting on big money from Essendon
45 - unknown
46 - unknown
Caro once again rewriting history saying Dons & Gws went for Scott & Kingsley over Clarko. No they didn't. It was the other way around; Clarko said no to them 1st.
2 years ago all the media said North needed an experienced coach after Shaw & Noble. Now all of a sudden North should have chosen Kingsley? Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
LDU is NOT our best player and never has been. I hate this narrative. Sheezel is head and shoulders above everyone else. LDU plays 3 great games a year THAT'S IT. Wish we took Naughton.
A second year player your best? If that's the case then this pain will go on for another 6 years at least
@@LAT04Nick Daicos was a second year player last season and clearly Collingwood's best by a country mile.
I thought Eddie Ford was your best player.
See north don't even know who their own best players are
Kangas supporter, yes he most definitely was our best player especially last year 😂😂 alongside Larkey, going by how players improve this year should have been his breakout year but has definitely been underwhelming, to me it looks as if he is very unmotivated and not going in as hard as he once did
I feel there is a lack of great minds in the coaching department at the moment and Clarke had his time like Malthouse did at west coast also Clarke had a great team to work with at hawthorn like Malthouse at west coast.
Did he ever have it or did he have a great team at Hawthorn? North have been in the VFL/AFL since around the same time as Hawthorn - but the difference is stark. They have won flag after flag and we've had 2 good periods - the Barassi era and the Carey era.
Caro, ALWAYS backing up the females, no matter to the facts
Except when it's Megan Barnard where her friendship with Tom Morris family overrides her feminism.
facts and feminism has very little crossover
Always good to know where the Incels are - as usual, huddled together like scared little boys.
@@swamistyleThat's right. Most women's narcissism and hypocrisy means they'll pretty much ALWAYS back up other females except when the male involved is family /friends.
I’m a Don however when the Roos needed a coach everyone of these clowns said get Clarko. At the end of the day you’re only as good as the players you have. Give the Roos priority picks help sort them before Tassie comes in. 😉🇦🇺👊
I am a 60 year Hawk supporter
Seen the good times & bad
Clarko knows what he is doing
Hardwicke Gold coast coach is a similar age & winning profile as clarko but apparentky hes the right man for gold coast & clarko is not for north now ?
What a load of rubbish
Cornes do better you dirty flog
Give me a break Caroline.
If the AFL are genuine about evening the competition, you give the bottom 5 teams each year, 4 out of the first 20 in the draft. It would catapult teams up and get rebuilds quicker.
I think no matter what coach they have, the club is going nowhere, they just don’t have a good amount of great players, people give Clarko a bunch of credit for the 4 flags, but leave out the fact he had a plethora of talent at his disposal, it’s a completely different story at North, there’s not many players you can hang your hat on, Larkey, Zurhaar, Sheezel, Simpkin and Curtis are probably the most notable players I can think of that can play good most weeks, everyone else is hit and miss, mostly miss, when they’re all switched on they can play, or even win, but it’s so few and far between.
Time to bring back Pagan as President to North for a few years to fix this mess up.
WTF ? don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative , GWS went Kingsley because Clarko said NO to that job , Essendon went and got Brad for reason , even in the last week they were trying to recruit Clarkson , those are facts , geez these people have less credibility than tabloid Jurnos
Give Clarko a chance, he’s paying for the sins of Brad Scott who stripped that roos list while Brad Scott gets pats on the back for inheriting a list filled with top picks but still does bugger all.
The only difference between Dimma and Clarko are the lists they walked into, ones called a genius and the others called washed up
Paying for the sins of something that happened 8 years ago. Yeh sorry not buying it. That club has plenty of time to write those wrongs and the fact is even when Brad Scott was removed mid way 2019 they still refused to do a rebuild for a another 2-3 years. So you really can't put much blame on him anymore.
Not to mention Brad Scott got them to two prelims with a relatively average list..
Any of those players that got moved on from North would be well and truly retired. The club has had ample time to replace them
Yeah I don’t think I explained what I was trying to say properly. All I was saying is that the club has been in shambles for a long time now due to the decisions of people that have moved on and washed their hands of it and it’s hard to blame the guy that’s been there since breakfast
@@Josh-cu7lu yeah agreed. No way is this clarkos fault, he doesn't have much to work with
Your been lucky so far .I posted something about Brad Scott and l got hammered people like Damian Barrett can't see the damage he done to the cub spent years not given young guys a go how many good players left because of that .
Last 3 seasons at the Hawks Clarkson didnt show anything but at the same time the rebuild started when he arrived, forget the years before, takes about 3 ys before any real improvements start to show, at some point they will get a run on for a short time...
I’m glad none of that coaching team is at the Blues
Merge them with tassie, sell all the players
Now it's Klarko
But never Hinkley.
I like that they're bad. Makes the competition interesting. Don't mind North, but seeing a team crack the 100 point margin, its a great thing to see.
Why are they surprised, Clarko was incredible at Hawks until mid 2010's, after that he was just recruiting recycled players & going downwards, hasnt been the force he was for 8+ years, that was a very long time ago in football terms
Have a look at the big smile on Kane Cornes face at the start of this video. His hatred for North Melbourne shines through n through right there. However, his points on the effort (mainly LDU) is spot on. This coming from someone who hates Kane Cornes
Caro is such a liar. When are the other panel members going to finally call her out?
Caro re-writing history GWS and Essendon wanted Clarkson too, they didn’t look at him and turn away
So Kane reckons North ain’t trying….I’ll tell who is trying and that’s Kane….he’s trying to be a journalist. TOTAL FLOG
Merge North with Tasmania.
Merge your brain with an IQ
Settle
I’m a north fan. And after this last week…honestly do it
@aroski no true north fan even jokes about this with the vultures. Traitor
We don't need you
@@chocolatebear333It will be better for the club.
Im still amazed that these people are in the media ? No wonder people have turned off.
Maybe the public should interview these people. ?
I love how the smug flogs, including Clarkson, had a crack at Essendon, at the time when Clarkson was appointed. Bombers having the last laugh now. Basket case club who need to move to Canberra or Darwin. Popcorn 🍿 watching Kingy getting worked up.
What hurts North the most or what these speakers don't recognise when comparing to Carlton & Melbourne or any other clubs that have hit rock bottom the past 20 years, is that North is a small club. They don't have the pull and big-club reputation that Carlton and Melbourne have. It'll be a greater achievement for North to get themselves out of this than that of Carlton & Melbourne
The whole draft system is designed around bottom teams bouncing back. The fact North Melbourne haven't is on them, they should be back to a top eight side by now.
@Fiasco3 I'm specifically referring to Cornes' point of paying overs for C-grade players. There's no appeal for big names. North have tried. Years ago they offered Martin what would have been a record contract. They've also tried to lure Kelly from GWS among others I'm sure.
Your point regarding the draft is also moot because that in itself is a broken system. North should have been able to draft both N. Daicos and W. Ashcroft if it weren't for father-son. Jed Walter before Durrsma if it weren't for academy selection, etc.
Brayshaw & Scott.. that combination is looking very good in hindsight. Hood talks up a big game but the on-field actions dont match it at all
I'm not a NM supporter, but honestly it's too early for those types of calls and comments.. Clarko had a disrupted season last year and this is like his 6th game of an actual season..
Give them an actual chance..
Fans can see it 1 and a half years+ of skill drilling and supposive new game-style and there is nothing to show for it. They are playing exactly the same. They have a few players trying to win games solo, but no team shape.
Maybe Clarko has realised North are really rubbish and rubbish needs to be thrown in the bin so the Comp can move on
Those LDU clips were a reach, 1st one he nearly intercepts it and the 2nd he doesnt chase to tackle because 4 of his teammates were about to wrap up the dude, he couldnt get there before them lol Does he need to teleport in that situation?
We lost Thomas and McKay. Two massive loss’s and louge is injured
plus CCJ and Goater with season ending injuries by round 3. Everything adds up and takes a toll.
Kane why dont you go coach them if you know more...
Do they have Kangaroos in Tasmania ?
NO! We have wallabies in Tasmania.
Barrett just get stuffed
North should simply move to Tasmania and get some draft concessions. Play a Tassie jumper in Hobart, (green and red stripes?) and use the North jumpers on the mainland. They can still have a base at Arden St until the new Tassie stadium is built but this is smelling too much like Fitzroy.
You do realise Tasmania has just been given their own team right? 🤔😂
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Yes but it doesn’t make sense and North is a basket case. Would Brisbane or Sydney exist without Fitzroy or South Melbourne. The comp doesn’t need more teams. There’s not enough talent. And Victoria still has too many teams for a ‘National’ comp. What I’m talking about is the preservation of North, not some contrived team like Gold Coast!
Plus, if you keep the comp to 18 teams and split it into 3 divisions, every team plays each other once and the divisions play each other twice, you’ve got 22 rounds. Makes more sense. North/Tassie can play 7 home games in Hobart and 4 @ Marvel. Hawthorn can still play 4 @ Launceston. That way Tassie still gets 11 home games. The comp can’t afford a 19th team!
I think that Tarryn Thomas delisting, if he finds another home should be compensated by AFL. He should not be playing football at the highest level full stop. If he is employed by another club - I think Hutchy is right, they deserve some compensation. Maybe a start of second round draft pick.
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I smell a merger coming very soon. Perhaps with the new tassie team…
Why? That only happens when teams cannot financially sustain themselves. North are fine financially. The only issue is just their list and on-field performance, which happens to every club.
It can't happen. The members control the vote on mergers & relocations.
Leigh Mathews said you can't win with duds ...and that coaching is overated ...that list is shocking in terms of talent depth ...it's lack talent
Players are trying
The arrogance in media needs to be called out. Yeah he takes the money in soft cap. I suggest some of the media making more mistakes per week without accountability earn more. Call yourself out. Be media, Be critical, demand more of yourself. Which media is being investigative against the other? No one Tall poppy system
All comes down to the players and the talent you have. Clarko had talent at Hawthorn. North will be fine, they just need more talent. Carlton were no different.
Clarko was never a good coach to be honest. All he did was invent that putrid chip mark game style that ruined the game.
It’s easy to look like a good coach when you got the best list in the comp. but what has he actually done since all those Hawthorne legends moved on? Absolutely nothing
Say what? You didn't see the tactics Hawthorn employed to beat Geelong in 2008?!
"They have a better President and CEO, but they're both inexperienced".......yet Clarkson is the problem?!?!?! This is Caroline Wilson in a nutshell, the President SONJA HOOD and the CEO JENNIFER WATT are both.......🥁🥁🥁........WOMEN! The fact that this somehow makes them "better" gives an insight in to the way Wilson's mind works and why her opinions aren't worth anything. Clarkson isn't the problem, it's the administration. They created this mess through their ineptitude. FACT.
Bring Back Pagan as President to fix this mess up at North !
Simple fix. Tarryn should be forced to go in to the draft and the draft pick that grabs him should be passed on to North as compo*. *North cannot bid on him.
How can caroline who has zero understanding of football question the coaches and say there are better across the competition. Clarkson and co didnt recruit 90% of the spuds on this team. Give the man time, hes been there for 1 year, last year barely counts .
This is just an excuse to bash north as usual from this bunch of flogs
Brad Scott stayed 2 years too long.. The rebuild should have started back then, with the experienced players that were there. There is no experienced support as Clarkson had to get Shiels over from Hawthorn
Cornes is right about north but so is Caro about Clarko
I Dont know even if Clarkson is the right coach for North Melbourne either. History shows rebuild coaches don't last the rebuild. North might have been better to get Adam Kingsley before he got to the giants instead of offering everything more than the kitchen sink for Clarkson
What worked at Hawthorn 15 plus years ago doesn't mean it will work for North in the rebuild.
Kangas to Tassie permanently
They deserve no help
I agree, they have had more than enough help. Its up to them to get their house in order.
Norf should just fold.
Essendon wanted Clarko ya d#%*head Caro, Brad Scott was their backup plan, and how could anyone predict how good a first time head coach in Kingsley would be? We went with 2 1st timers already so of course you’re not going to do that for a 3rd time 🙄
Culture, is a load of crap. As a Carlton supporter, I can attest. It's, confidence, that's the key. Of course, some really good players helps a bit too.....
Not much he can do when idiots before him draft it poorly. Imagine taking Phillips lol
They copied zone defense from other sides, but they can't play it. They play far too away from their direct opponent. Other teams can chip the ball around them training drill style all day long. All the poor levels of general football skills that have kept them on the bottom of the ladder are still there. They don't advance in waves (with players along side them), just predictable straight line hand-ball, that's easily cut-off. They chip across goal, kick to outnumbered or ill-matched contests. Tackling is practically non-existent. In marking contests they don't have crumbing small forwards at the back. Basic footy all missing.
Dont you get it ? Too many teams ! Not much substance to these comments again.
Is Caro getting cognitively impaired or she purposefully lying?
Clarkson turned down GWS. Said he was not moving interstate.
Essendon made a last ditch attempt at Clarkson before settling for Brad Scott.
Essendon beware, where north are at the moment is very much due to Scott. Traded out 1st round picks that ended up being Butters and Serong. Brought in blokes like Polec, Pittard, also Dom Tyson, Marley Williams (I think, plus more)…. All in an attempt to keep north competitive and save his job. Doing similar at Essendon.
This north Melbourne list biggest issue by far are the players 24+…. None of them can help the younger kids. Desperately need on field leaders.
Clarkson was a great coach when he had a great list. Now he has a bad list he is no longer a great coach. Just like Malthouse, Pagan, Sheedy, Barrassi, Leigh Matthews, Allan Jeans the list goes on and on.
Give the Roos a break . Don't go down road of sacking coaches it doesn't work . The AFL media at it again?
More likely ke 100 yrs away I'm a roo supporter enough enough come on he's useless and arrogant Clarkson get rid of him
He does not have the cattle lucky to win in Hobart
Merge them.
LDU to StKilda
always going to be a bad team in any competition . It is as even a competition as you will find anywhere
They love blamming clarko, Damien barret is flog along with caro
Clarko is not the man to coach North Melbourne kangaroo
What a rotten show it is. Last week it was the Bulldogs and this it is the Kangaroos... Seriously their headline attention seekers.
Just because u had success a decade or 2 ago.. no garantee u can reproduce that again. Clarko is done & so r the Kangaroos..
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