Riding Alone, Off-Road, and Getting Older: Royal Enfield Himalayan Experience
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2023
- As I begin my 69th year on the earth I have to wonder whether it's prudent to review my approach to riding my scooters and motorcycle and perhaps make adjustments as both my body and my risks change.
One of the obvious issues is riding alone in remote areas with little to no cell coverage. Do I only ride with friends? Do I need some sort of GPS tracking and messaging system? Or maybe just stay on the pavement.
In this video I'll discuss my thoughts on these issues, give a little background on my own situation, what some possible changes might be while I'm riding through Moshannon State Forest on my Royal Enfield Himalayan.
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The relaxed riding position of the REH is ideal for older riders more interested in exploration and philosophizing than tearing up the tarmac. Most of my non conformist life has been a solitary voyage. Venturing off into the backwoods with a measure of optimism and a cell is all I'm armed with. My 'to do' list includes a can of bear spray. Our mortality meter pops into our head more frequently as the calendars fly by. The meds no longer work as well as they once did. A long brisk walk each day keeps the joints limber. If you're fortunate enough to have reasonably good health and a soulmate to share your journey with you're indeed fortunate. I'm not surprised to hear you dodged a big one as Leo's have 9 lives in their quiver. I'll be 75 in a couple of weeks. Chronology can be a mental impediment, keep your focus on the horizon and forget about reality. That's what I do. 😄👍
The Himalayan is definitely a relaxed ride. Some call it slow and boring. I see it as relaxed. And as you say exploring and thinking about life are more in play than tearing up any tarmac or dirt.
I'm still limber and in a physical condition where riding is still simple but the time will come when that will change. When? Who knows...
I'm on the Cancer-Leo cusp. Not sure what that means exactly but if it delivers 9 lives I'll take it.
My eye is on the horizon most of the time. But life does continually strive to intervene...
Totally resonates with me. I think there comes a time when we realise we actually aren't bulletproof.
Not bulletproof. That's for sure!
Although im not as old as you, I'll be 61 in 1 month. I started to measure my life in how many riding season I have left. Live the best life you can today, the clock is ticking. Im happy to see you enjying the sport of riding and sharing your musings and experience.
Measuring time left at once feels prudent and also a bit morbid. I've counted out my "estimated" time left on the planet in terms of riding seasons, weeks, years, and with my father's age when he died as a countdown.
But perhaps the best approach is the one you suggest -- live your best life today because the clock is ticking.
Riding is still an important part of my life and I suspect will remain so until I can't ride anymore.
This was an extremely interesting video to watch and listen to Steve. I'm 71 now, and I'd be lying if I said riding alone doesn't worry me. But like you, my Himalayan puts a smile on my face every time I'm out. Here in the UK we don't have quite the remoteness that you have, but my annual trip to Spain takes me to considerable mountainous terrain. I think the only thing to do is ride with more awareness of the dangers, and do it while we can! The Garmin unit is a good idea though, and deserves consideration. There's still a lot to say for riding alone, so I don't plan giving that up any time soon either. You've given me food for thought Steve, and an idea for a pondersome video for my little channel. Thanks again, and stay safe. 😎👍
I think I need a t-shirt emblazoned with "Do it while we can!" Time passes so quickly that those trips and adventures will become impossible before we know it.
The Garmin unit will likely become part of my riding kit soon. I just need to order it and decide on the service plan I want or need.
I just subscribed to your channel. You have good stuff and I look forward to whatever pondersome content you develop!
I have an 'Adventure Before Dementia' T shirt, which I suppose is part way there!
I'm giving serious thought to the Garmin unit before this year's Spanish trip, if only to keep the family happy. I really do prefer to explore alone, so it'd be a small price to pay.
Thanks for subscribing by the way, it's much appreciated, and I hope you find my stuff interesting. Cheers and stay safe. 👍
Its just a number buddy, whats important is what you do with it, carry on riding and please please keep bringing us along with you,
God bless
That's the plan! I want to keep riding as long as I can. I agree about the idea of age just being a number. The important part is an honest assessment of my actual condition physically and mentally. A person could be "old" at 40 or young at "80."
I am 63, just bought a brand new himalayan 5 days ago, having not owned a bike for over 30 years and not ridden properly for 17 years. I am a bit intimidated at the noticeable weight of the himi, with full fuuel, and panniers, as my last bike was z250 kwaka, so it was quite lower in weight. But am going to be riding this on and off road, as a change from bicycle touring, that I have been doing for the last 8 years, the reason I came back to m.bike riding was I always wanted to, and if I didn't do it now, it would never happen. The bike will mainly be a Sunday rider, with my wife and friends, but, also for my dog and I for camping/ bushwork etc. I was drawn to your vlog for the same reasons that you made this particular one, and I subbed straight away. Cheers mate - old Aussie rider.
Congrats on being back, i bet you will love it and soon find the weight manageable. Best wishes!
Congratulations on acquiring a Himalayan. I hope you find it as satisfying as I have.
Go slow returning to the road. I would suggest removing the panniers for awhile as you reacclimatize to riding. It won't take long before the Himalayan feels positively feather light.
Good luck and be safe on your coming adventures! And thanks for subscribing. I appreciate it.
I love my himmy but you need to be your own mechanic. They are a one of a kind bike, powerful and super fuel efficient. On the highway, I get 85mpg alone and riding two I get 81mpg. They are not the highest quality, and have problems like the speedometer and directionals vibrating apart at highway speeds due to the design of the mounting bracket that supports the tank, headlight and speedo. The front assembly is essentially an engine vibration amplifier since it connects just above the piston. My speedo started rattling at only 1,500km. I fixed it by disassembly and gluing the internal boards together with vibration resistant polymer glue. I believe the Scram was created to eliminate that problem. Plus the ECU / fuel injection system runs super lean at idle due to the Euro5 mandates. That causes stalling and the engine to run hot. That can be fixed with a FuelX Pro unit that many of us have installed. Any English speaking owner should follow the channel out of India "On Two Wheels Ben". Ben speaks excellent English and is a bridge between the Indian owners and mechanics and the English speaking world. It is a wealth of how to info on the himmy. His bike is the best sounding and best running Himmy I have ever heard.
@@danielben-avraham1539 Thanks for the head's up on "On Two Wheels Ben." I'll check out that channel.
I have had to go over the Himalayan and tighten bolts. Just replaced a missing stainless steel bolt today on the exhaust shroud that vibrated out. But so far everything else is working well.
Funny, my first thought was also remove the panniers while you are getting to know the bike. Mine had a pesky stalling problem at idle, and it dumped my wife and I several times while getting the feel for the bike. I learned to ride the clutch just in case the engine cut out on take off. It always seemed to stall when I was not paying attention. The rear wheel would just lock up and violently throw the bike to the ground. Especially if you were riding two and starting in a turn. I have since fixed the stalling, but if I had the panniers on, they would have been severely damaged. Instead the mounts acted as a roll cage and no damage was done. I am thinking of using soft luggage in the future for any off road trips.
If you’re going to places with no service I think it makes good sense.
It’s been said that you don’t quit riding when you get old but rather you get old cause you quit riding. Keep Riding Steve and enjoy the adventures!
I want to keep riding. But I don't want to mindlessly ride as if my risk hasn't changed. Coming up with the right plan will keep me enjoying the adventure.
My mid seventies now and pretty much all your saying resonates with me. I have three motorbikes now and though I adore my GS it seems I’m spending more time on the much smaller bikes. Physics eh!
You've probably noticed two things already that I've noticed. First, time flies. And second, everything seems to get heavier all the time.
So I have to respond accordingly!
I’m just 32 but I consider myself an old soul. Can’t wait to pick my himi up in a few days and start riding. Love your channel and always look forward to new videos. Cheers 😊
Good luck and good riding on your soon to arrive Himalayan. It's a good motorcycle and ready for all sorts of adventures.
And thanks for the kind words about my videos. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
As a 76 year old who rides a lot solo on a dual sport and adventure motorcycle i could really relate to your video. My current rides are the KTM 390 Adventure, the Honda crf300l and the Honda Trail 125. The past few years I've ridden the MABDR, the NEBDR and the BDRX in PA. I've been blessed with good health, have always been involved in adventure sports involving balance and exercise regularly which I attribute to my ability to be riding off road at my age. Frankly I see no end in sight although many of the concerns you bring up enter my mind on occasion. I wish you many more years of riding my friend. BTW I'm really intrigued with the Himalayan. It has that old school look not unlike me. :) I can see one in my future.
You have some fine machines to ride on those BDR routes. I've done pieces of them before I knew the BDR existed. Trying to actually navigate them would require a GPS device I think. So I doubt I'll ever intentionally do any of them. But I can see myself meandering from the Southern to Northern border of Pennsylvania in some sort of unofficial BDR.!
I'm uncertain how and when health issues might intervene in my riding. My wife worries about me riding solo and I find myself wondering if I should make changes to relieve some of her anxiety about my riding. Hard to say.
The Himalayan is a fine motorcycle. Nothing like the ones you have. What makes it nice off road is how well it performs at really low RPMs. It just pulls like a farm tractor. It's definitely worth looking at.
Stay safe and may god be w/ you🙏🏾🌺❤️🏍🏔️🌏
@@eduardomonteclar392 Thank you for your kind and supportive words.
I'm paying attention to the risk I'm taking and consider carefully the limits of my 69 year-old body!
We are very much alike, 68, 3 years ago 99% blockage 2 stents and now lot's of damn pills. But still riding and riding alone. I live in Kentucky and love being in the woods also have a Himalayan among others. Our riding is very similar also. I enjoy your videos. Thanks and keep riding and be safe.
I hope we both can continue riding alone for years to come in spite of our unfortunate cardiac events. I'm told that drugs and stents do magic now. Time will tell.
The Himalayan is the perfect bike for me now. Each time I take it into the woods I feel grateful to have it. And outfitting myself with a Garmin InReach Mini 2 will make my wife feel a lot more comfortable about me heading out alone.
I'm an introvert that is very capable in a wide variety of social atmosphere in small doses. I much prefer small groups of close friends and family or to be with the many voices in my head 😂. When I started riding no one else I knew rode, so it became my perfect solitude activity. My son did come alone as pillion on trips we took during his preteen years. He started riding in college and is now one of the few people I ride with.
A couple years back I got a Garmin InReach before a week long solo tour through remote areas. It's nice to have for piece of mind and so your close loved ones can keep tabs on you if you allow it. Part of the reason I got it was because I know I'd be getting a dual sport and traveling to areas outside of cell range fare from help. I'm not old at 47 in a couple days, but have been dealing with a chronic disease for 22 years that limits my strength and abilities. Just have to take things into consideration and act accordingly. Got the dual sport (DR650) about a year ago and love it.
I'm definitely someone who generally shies away from large groups. Concerts, athletic events, no thanks. I prefer the company of the voices in my head as well!
For all the reasons you outline I think the Garmin InReach Mini 2 will be a comforting addition for my wife and me. The cost isn't an issue especially when weighed against peace of mind for the people you care about.
I've been dealing with a chronic auto immune disease for almost 16 years now. I'm uncertain what will get me first -- the disease or the medication. It doesn't affect my strength but at 69 that natural aging process sure has. I have to make adjustments...
The DR650 is a fantastic dual sport motorcycle. A friend had one and he did an around the world trip on it. It was like a tank.
hi Steve...I'm Vern ... I too just made it to my 69th on July 18th.... still riding ...much smaller bikes than you though.... Honda CT 1235 and a Chinese 150cc Ice Bear Vision .... having some fun but really would like to change up next year to the Himalayan .... (and a vespa) ... drove a Vespa 35 years when I was stationed in Sigonella, Sicily ....also had a Kawasaki Spectra then.....I really enjoy your vids ....I agree with every thing you mentioned about riding alone.... i also ride alone.... I live in central West Virginia and there are no bike clubs here .... a lot of people ride through here though on the Elk River Scenic Drive .... I. don't ...I ride the back roads and hollers .....thanks for bring up the Garmin Mini ... I am trying to fit one into my budget ..... I had a heart attack 20 years ago and take a lot of pills in the morning ....that is not keeping me from enjoying those things I love. riding is close to the top of the list .... keep up the vids ... I really like them ... I also like thaqt you gave a shout out to Itchy Boots ... I am also a fan .... goin to send her a comment mentioning this vid ... thanks again .... Vern
We are definitely close in age. Happy Belated Birthday greetings.
My father was born in the West Virginia pan handle and we had family throughout the state. Everyone is gone now, under the dirt or moved a way. But West Virginia is a beautify state. I've never had the opportunity to ride there save for the far eastern parts about Berkeley and Martinsburg.
The Garmin Mini is definitely a wise choice for me. I am not wild about laying out that kind of cash for something I may never use, but I suppose it beats the unfortunate alternative!
Itchy Boots is inspiring. Doing things and riding places I would never have the courage to do.
Man keep riding, stay young at heart and enjoy this adventure called life, I’m 61 and in a couple of weeks I’m of on a 10,000 km motorcycle ( v strom 1000)ride in Australia that goes from near the capital of Australia (Canberra) to the very top of Australia ( Cape York) and back through the middle over 5 weeks, like I said stay young at heart,keep enjoying what you do,live,love,laugh.
I endeavor to keep riding despite some obvious changes in my life. I'm enjoying life and am grateful to have people in my life that I love and am still able to laugh!
Good luck on your upcoming adventure in Australia. Look out for the saltwater crocs in Cape York!
Steve, I'm 5 months behind you in age and some of the same things on your mind are on mine as well. My bikes have in general become smaller and that includes mass, height and power with none of those old attributes missed. I prefer riding alone and will continue to. The main adjustment has been which roads I avoid and if I do take them, knowing when to turn around. There's no longer a need to prove anything, I'm riding because I enjoy exploring, moving through our world. Based on far too much experience with deep soft sand and rutted puddles I know that my odds have now at 68+ become poor in those conditions. On pavement and on any kind of reasonable gravel surface, the odds of my having a problem are extremely low....at least for now.
Be safe, consider your limitations and level of return for pushing on them would be my advice.
I think I'm standing at the crossroad you describe as adjusting what sort of roads you'll ride. I'm having the same thoughts though when I get out in the forests and the road becomes a path and the path grows challenging I want to keep going as if I'm 25 rather than 69.
So there's some mental negotiation going on at the moment.
I'm definitely going to take your advice and consider returns and limitations!
@@ScooterintheSticks Don't stand Steve, throw a leg over. These days won't last forever!
greeting from germany. I am 63 and you do exactly, what I will do too with my new Himalayan, I HAVE BUYED LAST FRIDAY
Guten tag! Congratulations on your new Himalayan and I hope you have as much fun with yours as I do with mine!
Smart Man! And, congratulations on your upcoming annual celebration of chronological advancement! Cheers!
Thank you kindly! It was a fine event. And my wife bestowed a new motorcycle on me that shall be revealed in the new future.
I'm in the same boat. in my 60's, bought the Himmy to enjoy a more relaxing ride on a smaller and more efficient bike then my old GL1000 goldwing, and then my health began failing. I decided that I did not come all this way, to simply give up and not to be able to enjoy my retirement and my new bike. So I decided to try the carnivore diet. I began losing too much weight and added back in the carbs, but I discovered that the diet was extremely rejuvenating, mostly due to the high animal fat intake that triggers testosterone and hormone balancing in general and reduces inflammation. It will likely help you toss the killer pills and enjoy many years more of good health. It helped me avoid several root canals and helped my teeth heal quite rapidly, (3 months) which is something, considering that I am getting up there in age.
My wife and I had tried the carnivore diet to no effect. I know it helps some but didn't do anything for us. After a year we went another direction. Moderation seems to be the best path for me and one that is extremely difficult. I write this after polishing off a pint of Haagen Daz ice cream...
Pondering similar questions, I got my cycle license in May - at 72. I reckon that HE did not leave us here to wait to die, but, rather, to L I V E ! After all from which God & my guardian angel protected me, thus far, I thought it would be a slap in the face if I lacked faith, now - like Peter being urged to get out of the boat and walk on the water. Before EACH ride, I ask that HE keep me alert, safe, mindful of my lessons and please don't let anything run out in front of me; after each ride, I thank him profusely for doing so. I ride in/with FAITH.
Thank you for sharing your experience and Faith as it pertains to riding and life. My own isn't far from yours. And congratulations on taking the step to begin riding at 72. A leap of faith.
God allows me the freedom to choose. And he rides with me. I can make positive choices or negative ones. And when in doubt of which to make he is always there to help.
Age is just another element of riding to manage. I am not the man I was at 60. Or 50. I must choose and manage accordingly and not let pride or ego stand in the way of making intelligent plans and choices.
I like your idea of a prayer at the end of each ride.
I try not to do 'stupid' things; e.g. I wear 'ALL the gear ALL the time'. I studied 9 months before licensing. My biggest fear was getting caught/surprised by something that hadn't occurred to me. I 'ride my own ride' - not caring what others think; I wave them by on main/highway roads. Realizing that HE has ALWAYS protected me (even in my stupid youthful moments), by riding in FAITH, though I, too, ride sole, I never ride 'alone'; with HIM I have better protection than any/all gear! I am VERY grateful for the opportunities to marvel at HIS beautiful creations. "Keep the Faith" ... and HE will keep You! @@ScooterintheSticks
Age thank god is only a number if you are reasonably healthy, riding out anywhere makes one feel young. Ric, 75 yrs young & counting, with luck i'll ride right up 'till i physically cannot mount my bike. Ride on sir, enjoy.
Age definitely is a number. Health isn't though so I try to stay aware of what I can and can't do. I sure hope I can follow you by riding at 75 and beyond.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I appreciate them.
Dang, I'm in my mid forties and don't remember what i had for lunch yesterday, if there's no leftovers container in the fridge :-D or what the wife told me this morning to do tonight... and you remember childhood, wow.
Funny how the dude on the rally 300 appeared right after you talking about riding in group and not being anti social :-) first i thought it was your good riding friend Paul from many vids. But why did he hold the clutch in after shutting the engine down? I too get distracted when somebody's talking to me...
I'm a late bloomer with 5yo kid, so i hope i will be able to ride into my 70s or later. And travel long distance like Simon Gandolfi or Nick Adams in their books. Much slower than itchy boots.
I've been meaning to ask if you got any photography blog posts or videos planned? Been a while i think. I just bought my first roll of 35mm film in over a decade.
Thanks for the vid!
Those childhood memories are a lot more exciting than lunch or what my wife tells me to do!
It seemed so strange to see another motorcycle approaching. I seldom see anyone other than an occasional mountain biker.
Not sure why he held on to the clutch. I didn't notice it at the time but it isn't something that seems very natural or relaxed. It was a brand new bike and I don't think he had ridden it much yet. Maybe he wasn't comfortable.
Next year I'll be riding into my 70s. I'll let you know how that feels.
I don't have anything planned in regard to photography either on my blog or on TH-cam. That tends to happen more when the weather gets cold. On a photo related note -- while in the garden with the dogs this morning I noticed that my darkroom exhaust fan has come loose. I need to fix that. The darkroom remains ready to process film and make prints. Something I don't see happening any time soon!
Fellow Himalayan rider, just turned 60, and have the same thought as you about the risk involved with solo adventure riding. My cellphone does have an SOS function for when there is no coverage. I used the Gaia gps app on the trip I just took on the Trans Wisconsin Trail, I sent screenshots to my wife of where is was going to ride, if she didn’t hear from me, she would have some idea where I was. Tires- I put some Shinko 244’s on mine, made a world of difference on the dirt tracks, but a bit noisy on pavement. 1000 miles in 4 days!
I've only taken a quick look at Gaia GPS but need to look a lot closer. What I'm looking for is the ability to make a call for help. Gaia doesn't seem to offer that capability but I could be wrong.
When it comes time to put new tires on my Himalayan I'll look at those Shinko 244s. I would like something a little more aggressive.
Thanks for sharing all the information. I appreciate it!
You are an inspiration to all of us. I’m 59 and hate riding off road alone for dear of the unknown. Thanks for sharing. Ride Safe
Thank you for your supportive words. Like you do on your channel, I just share the experiences and thoughts as they come along.
While riding off the pavement I don't fear the unknown so much, but perhaps more specifically I am uncomfortable feeling I am vulnerable. When younger I never seemed to feel that way other than someone once pointing a gun in my face. But otherwise I had that youthful insanity of indestructibility.
Now I'm feeling a little different...
Happy birthday Steve, and yeah, I fully understand the potential predicaments if you get caught up with an urgent or emergency medical situation. The Garmin with the SOS feature would help for sure. Also, the Apple watch when there's a signal can detect unusual physical states. (It's a bit sensitive to sudden stops and banging of the wrist and such so you may find that a little annoying.) Anyway, may you have plenty more years above ground and on top of the bikes. Cheers!
Thank you for the well wishes -- on my birthday and beyond!
The Garmin is definitely on my list and was out for a ride today on the Vespa where considerable stretches of the pavement were without cell service. I just need to sit down and make a final decision on which service to purchase.
I've seen Apple watches and they don't have much appeal to me. The InReach Mini 2 should do the job!
A good thought provoking vlog. I am conscious of aging and the effects it may have on my enjoyment of riding. I have been riding for nearly 50 years and my main passion is exploring the countryside and this is the reason i bought the Himalayan. If the time comes when the Himalayan is too heavy for me then I will look at bikes like the Honda CRF300 which are lighter but still very capable with enough performance. The UK is obviously a lot smaller so being alone for most of the day is not really an issue for me as I don't tackle the really challenging trails.
Thank you for the kind words about the video. Aging and riding is quickly become a more dominant aspect of my life and my video making.
Like you, I bought my Himalayan to explore the seemingly endless dirt and gravel mountain roads here in Pennsylvania. And so far it has been a great choice.
And I too will downsize when the time arrives where the Himalayan is too heavy. It still feels light now but who knows what tomorrow will bring!
I'm getting into motorcycling, don't have one yet, and the Himalayan is on my list. I'm a year older than you and ride a bicycle on gravel solo bikepacking tours in the Allegheny Mountains. In remote areas, most riders use a spot tracker like the Garmin Inreach and, as you said, it's a prudent safety investment for those remote, no cell service spots. I read recently about the last years tour divide mountain bike race. They all use a spot tracker. 10-15 riders ran into life-threatening weather conditions in Canada, used their SOS key for help as a last resort, and were helicoptered out to safety. Thanks much for your videos -- I've learned a lot from them!
I'm glad you've found some value in the stuff I post here.
The Himalayan is a calm, relaxed and forgiving motorcycle for those of us getting older and for new riders. While it won't push the performance envelop on anything it will do everything fine. If you've never ridden before you might want to take the MSF Beginner Rider course first and get comfortable riding one of their motorcycles first. Then the transition to the Himalayan will feel less daunting.
The confusing part for me with the SPOT or GARMIN devices are the service plans. It appears as if tracking is different than messaging. I'm uncertain what I need. I don't need the tracking that will push out details of where I am riding on a map but I do want emergency responders to be able to see where I am.
I need to do more homework.
@@ScooterintheSticks Thanks. I'm signed up for the MSF course next week offered by a Harley dealer. Get to ride a Harley 350 or 500 in the training. My wife has an '07 Vespa LX 150, so I've been practicing with that. I'm no expert on trackers or tracking plans, but my experience has been that (1) the long term subscription plans are pricey for me and (2) while you're not interested in tracking, the SPOT tracker missed many tracker points (not recorded) while the Garmin didn't miss any. I assume that means that it couldn't reach a Satellite when it was time to transmit. The SPOT is supposed to be carried flat with a clear view of the sky, while the Garmin still connected fine each time from within a saddlebag. SPOT also required batteries while the Garmin is rechargeable like a cell phone. Don't know much about their messaging capabilities. This link might be of interest to learn about the latest garmin satellite devices. gearjunkie.com/technology/garmin-inreach-messenger-review
Love your videos Steve. I see others here have similar thoughts. Perhaps give some thought to a motorcycle airbag vest. The helite has good protection around the neck, back, chest and hips. I see the electronic version can trigger on rough ground, but the mechanical version works well offroad. There are also phone apps that can use GPS to track your location and share this live with loved ones, so they can see where you are at all times. Not entirely like riding alone, but maybe a good compromise between independence and safety... Ride for life.
Thanks for the suggestion. I know a fellow who used to ride with one. So your comment sent me to Revzilla where I got a crash course in airbag vests. Not sure what I think. I'll need to let the information slosh around in my head a bit.
Since I keep my iPhones for a long time I would have to invest in a new one to get the GPS stuff. A Garmin inReach would be much cheaper. And as you say a good compromise to riding alone.
Intelligent thinking. I’m planning to sell my well loved GS1200 and exclusively ride my new to me Vespa 300. More fun to ride. And stay on the pavement 😅
I hope so. Hindsight is clear but my crystal ball work is often cloudy.
It's a big deal to let go of something that is well loved and part of our lives. Like your GS1200. But change is inevitable I guess and a Vespa GTS300 isn't a bad change.
I hope you have as much fun and satisfaction with your scooter as I have had with mine.
Ha ha! I just had a senior moment! I just left a rather long winded response on your video about the the aging rider and when to quit, forgetting that I had already responded to this one with similar sentiments just below. I subbed and was starting to watch more of your stuff. Low and behold here I am again. :) BTW I live in Elmira NY and ride PA's finest dirt roads all the time. Which area are you from? Maybe we could hook up sometime.
I'm near State College. The Mid Atlantic BDR route is just about 10 miles from my driveway as the crow flies. Lots of fine dirt roads here too!
Mate! Love that sincere intro
Im working full time in sydney saving up for a himalayan and time is just sliiiiiiipping away on me
Maybe it will slow down once i get a bike, probably not haha
Hey you are older than you once were but younger than youll be. But thats not unusual, no it isnt strange, after changes upon changes we are more or less the same!
Or something like that.
Time does seem to pass faster and faster as I get older. It does slip away. So far having a motorcycle or scooter hasn't changed the speed of time passing.
I'll have to think a bit about whether with all the changes in life if I'm changed. A brain teaser!
Great timing on this! I’m 72 and stopped riding about 5 yrs ago. I’ve had both hips replaced and a shoulder replacement. I’ve been missing riding and have been watching your videos as Wel as others. I rode Harley’s most of my life as well as Hondas. I’m seriously thinking about getting a Vespa 300. Actually supposed to see one today. A used one. 2017 model. I’m struggling with the age part of it and wondering if I should follow through with it. Anyway, thanks for all the videos but this one in particular.
I'm sure many will disagree, but i found the Vespa gts300 little on the heavy side. Sure is pretty and relatively fast, but i didn't catch the bug. I bought used 2014 and sold it after one season. If you don't need speeds over 60mph, then in my opinion japanese 150cc is a better choice. For me.
@@joeh773 thanks for the input. I’m trying to weigh all options before making any decisions.
Choosing to ride in the face of replacement surgeries is a very personal decision. And one that's difficult to get honest input. Some doctors can just wave their hand at any risk and not help you fully assess your life, needs, desires, and risk all together.
At the end of the day I try to be as honest with myself as I can be and guard against my ego and my childish desires that just wants what it wants.
I hope you find the right choice for you.
I would tend to agree that the GTS might feel heavy if you aren't used to it and made worse by the relatively tall seat. If I was concerned about weight and my hips or legs I would be looking at a 150. And possibly a Honda since the seat height is lower.
The GTS is still fine for me because the seating position is so relaxed and it is easy to step through. Some of the Japanese scooters aren't as comfortable to sit on for me. Each of us has to do the work to figure out what works best versus what we want.
That's a good plan!
Happy belated b-day Steve! Just found your channel yesturday & subscribed. The 1st video I watched was regarding your kawasaki w650. I purchased a w800 new the end of may & I just love the bike. I also have 2 moto guzzis that I ride with my wife along. We go to guzzi rallys & I pull a bushtec trailer with the 2007 guzzi. So far I have been blessed with good health as I am soon to be 72y.y. the end of this month. I know what you mean about wondering for how long will we continue to do that which we have been doing, but for now I just take it one day at a time. Have a beautiful day! Illinois,USA
Thanks!
Congratulations on the W800. It's a beautiful looking motorcycle. I kept looking at the local Kawasaki dealer hoping one would show but never did. Falling into the W650 was a stroke of good fortune. Like you, I just love the bike. The retro style makes me smile, and the ride is just sweet.
So far my health is such that it doesn't interfere with riding. I hope when I'm 72 I can say the same thing. You're right though, looking at things one day at a time is the best approach. The present is all we have. I just try and embrace and accept whatever life brings my way.
I took a look online at those Bushtec trailers. They're salty. Almost like buying another motorcycle!
@@ScooterintheSticks Back in 2006 when I purchased the Bushtec trailer, the cost before add-on's was $2200. By the time I added a shit load onto it, I paid $5000. The good thing is that with proper care they last a lifetime. Plus the fact that I never had children.(lol) Have a beautiful day!!! Illinois
@@larrywade9041 Sometimes you just need to buy what you want!
@@ScooterintheSticks AMEN brother
Love the video. I love my Himalayan as well. Can you tell me what bike bags and panniers you have on? I'm also an intravert.. dont blame you. Garmin InReach is the way to go, except for mechanical.
Thank you for the kind words about the video. Regarding the luggage, the front bags are made by Sedici (5 liter) and are Universal fit. I have them attached with Zip ties. Bought them from Revzilla.com.
All the other luggage pieces are from SW-Motech and I bought them online at the SW-Motech USA website.
I have the Pro Micro Tank Bag, Pro Roadpack tailbag, and the URBAN ABS sidecases and mounts. The SW-Motech stuff is handsome, well made, and expensive. With the panniers I didn't like the looks or size of the big metal ones. I didn't need that much capacity so the Motech ones were fine.
Hi Steve - A birthday for me yesterday, one of those with a zero at the end... riding is still my passion, but my riding style has changed over the years. I don't do off-road riding, but one has to consider all those "what ifs" you didn't think about back when you were invincible. Risk management. Never thought I'd live this long. ;-) When I had a hip replacement 4 years ago, I asked the surgeon when he expected I'd be able to ride again. He said, "Never - you are done with that; it's too dangerous." I fired him.
Years ago when we were boat cruising, our daughter was very concerned that we were often "out of touch" for days at a time. We bought a SPOT device (similar to the Garmin InReach) that we used to check in with her - it gave her peace of mind.
I appreciate your thoughts, rides, and videos.
Happy belated birthday Jim! I hope you had a fine day.
Like you my passion remains strong but my riding interests and style has changed. So far because of personal preference but I can feel the approach of physical stuff that will force some changes.
I suspect every surgeon is trained to say no to riding! I am fortunate that my cardiologist is an adventure rider and can provided more informed input for me. I dread the day he says "Time to stop."
The SPOT and InReach both look as if they would provide what I need. And my wife would appreciate the check ins. I was thinking it would make a great birthday gift but she got me something else instead.
A new motorcycle.
The "what ifs" have arrived. So far I've resisted the irrational responses.
@@ScooterintheSticks New motorcycle? That's all you're going to say? We need some details!
@@captainjim605 I don’t want to let the cat out of the bag in a comment! 😃
@@ScooterintheSticks Got it - I'll be looking forward to the reveal!
I enjoyed your ride and your honesty, and you probably guess what’s coming in my comment, hahaha. Here I go! First of all your are still very young and hopefully you will be able to ride another 15 - 20 years, God willing and healthwise, ofcourse. Myyyyyyy recomendation to you is go see an alternative type of health profesional, specially a “functional doctor “ or a regarded naturist. Secondly, an exercise routine, such as light weight training, push ups and walking every day. Thirdly, have a low carbohydrate diet and healthy proteins. Fourthly, inermittent fasting, 16/8 or better, like 20/4. Fifthly, meditation, 20-30 min. Per day. YOU ARE STILL YOUNG!
Thanks for your kind words about the things I present here. I appreciate them.
I hope I can still ride in 15 to 20 years! I know it's possible but not a certainty. I try to focus on today and leave tomorrow for fortune tellers.
I've watched my wife's interactions over the years with functional medicine doctors, naturists, and a variety of alternative approaches to deal with chronic issues that conventional medicine wasn't helping. Some had useful advice but most were no more successful than their conventional counterparts.
Walking, better diet have helped a lot. And I'm curious about intermittent fasting.
Meditation is already a daily habit. Whether all this will help I don't know. What I do know is it won't hurt me and I feel better!
FYI: There are remote places where there is no GPS/SATPHONE coverage either, because there are no satellites that can be seen due to terrain restrictions.
I understand that there will be places with limited access to the sky that will hamper the ability to connect with enough satellites to give an accurate location. But those are mostly related to constrained landscapes like narrow canyons and gulches. Or here in the East, heavy tree canopy. But for messaging you only need one satellite so that's handy. I'm not so worried about terrain restrictions but I can see how some might be.
Thanks for the reminder on this aspect. I appreciate it.
I had a seizure last Sunday, something that happens occasionally due to a TBI. My seizures are mild, and I don’t lose consciousness, but I can’t talk and sometimes my motor skills suffer. My wife can always track me via my cell phone, but here inPA cell service doesn’t exist in many of the places that are most fun to ride.
A few weeks ago while riding my heavy Kawasaki Vulcan touring bike I stepped in a huge pot hole (something else common in rural PA) at a stop sign and lost my footing. The bike went down. It was at a place with no cell coverage, on a road where no one was likely to pass for hours, or perhaps a day or two. The road surface was very crowned, and the bike was sitting at an angle that exceeded 90 degrees. I finally wrestled the 900 pounds of the bike back up, but just barely. I was afraid of triggering a seizure. Or a heart attack.
I have ridden the bike many times since, but that incident is always on my mind.
I have two other bikes, a 250 Suzuki and a 50 cc scooter. They are both lightweight and easy to ride, easy to lift, so I don’t need to contemplate no longer riding. But do I keep the Vulcan and continue taking long Interstate trips with my wife? That’s a complex question.
I am about your age. I also take a handful of pills every day. Is it time to give up something that I have loved and enjoyed for decades? Is it worth being safe and perhaps living longer?
Tough questions.
Maybe it is time to spend less time on the bike, and more time sailing and kayaking. With groups of other people.
Aging forces difficult decisions. The answers can be elusive.
The situations you describe capture the nature of my own concerns regarding connecting to help, sudden medical issues, and whether I have the strength to manage a motorcycle on my own should it go down.
I'm searching for where the lines cross between potential risk and prudent management. I haven't figured it out yet but at least I'm thinking about it. That's a start.
I appreciate your comments. And the tough questions. Difficult decisions indeed!
@@ScooterintheSticks I’m seriously considering a Honda XR150. I started out on a 1972 Honda CL100, so it would be sort of “the circle of (biking) life!”
@@clydeosterhout1221 That Honda looks really cool and on paper seems to check a lot of boxes. I've never ridden one or sat on one but seeing images of people on them I would have to check out two things: Is the feet back position going to cramp my hips? And is the seat too narrow and hard to be comfortable?
I've sat on some of the small Hondas and had trouble with the foot position triggering cramps in my hips. I'm prone to that.
But it sure would be nice. The other Honda of interest it the CT125 Trailbike and the Honda ADV150 scooter.
@@ScooterintheSticksjb
Hi Steve .i know from watching your posts that you dont take chances when out on your own ,but we do love to explore on our Himalayans. Im 58 but have a bad back so im always careful not to push my limits ,things break way more easily with age ..i broke my ankle a few years ago and it still gets sore so i wouldent like to think that i might take a fall off the bike and be stuck alone somewhere therefore i haven't as yet gone too far off the beaten path. i do think an emergency signal sender of some sort is a great idea ,especially as you seem braver than me on exploring those forest roads ....do you bring bear spray or some type of protection with you ...ive never sern you take a tumble on the posts ...has this happened? ....actually did you take one once riding with a friend ? I seem to remenber 🤔 but the memory can play tricks as im subbed to so many Himalayan riders . I bought a suzuki vstrom 1000 recently and after one month realised it was too big for me now ,so it will be replaced with the Vespa gts that i always wanted to buy ....ride safely and the gps emergency sender sounds good for you to have ....👍...Harry
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this subject Harry. I appreciate them.
How I assess taking chances is a bit different now that it was 10 years ago. And how I manage the chances I take has as well. I'm always trying to keep things simple but sometimes they aren't.
Breaking a leg, or the bike, out in the middle of nowhere with no cell coverage or passing traffic is a reality. It seems I have three choices:
Ignore it.
Buy a satellite messaging system.
Stay off roads in those kinds of places.
Two of those choices aren't appealing...
I don't carry bear spray. We have black bears here and they shy from humans in the wild. Unless I would come between a mother and cub they won't be a problem. Black bears are nothing like a Grizzly bear.
I've had two tumbles since I started riding again in 2005. Once in the snow on my Vespa LX150 attempting to stop at a downhill stop sign. And the other a couple years ago on the Himalayan riding off road. You can see that ride here:
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A 1000 VStrom is a handful. I'm not sure if I would have ever been comfortable with that motorcycle.
@ScooterintheSticks Thank you for your reply Steve ...I definitely think the satellite message system is the way to go ...after so many years of lone trips I think you have a great built-in sense of where to turn around as you did in this post ..I think when you stop doing what you love a little piece dies inside .
Yes of course we can never tell when the unexpected event will come our way but being prepared in the best way possible is key.
I was fine on a Dl1000 16 years ago but now I admitted to myself it's just too big ,and the Tune of another Vespa is playing loud in my head .
I find your post so relaxing and thought provoking, always looking forward to the next..
Regards 👍Harry
Turned 69 but true off road or unmaintained roads a bit away. Still thinking Himalayan. Need to move a 2006 DL1000 first!
Unmaintained roads here get pretty dicey. I ride them occasionally but the chances of making a mistake gets higher. And if I'm alone it's even worse.
A DL 1000 is way too heavy for me. And I don't need 98 horsepower. The Himalayan is 100 pounds lighter and the weight is more low slung than on the VStrom. A test ride might be in order.
Ride safe..
Thank you. I try!
Dude , Im 59 ...and I hope I am still riding in 10yrs .....been riding since 5yrs old . Only stopped for injury recoveries . My longest was a year off back when i was 50yo ....almost left this existence . 🤔 And you know ...i wudda been alright with it .
I hope you can too. I wonder sometimes how long I'll be able to ride but since I don't have a crystal ball that works I'm just left with today. I'll ride until I can't or no longer want to. Who knows when that will be...
Those experiences that bring us close to mortality have different effects on different people. I had one myself 8 years ago and I was definitely not ready to call it quits.
@scooter
I tell my friends , a true motocross'r leaves his last race in the back of an ambulance 😂 today I ride a drz400 on light trails and mountain forest dirt rds , a lot slower , and enjoy it just as much as I did racing ..... Just in a different way 👍
Scooter .... enjoy the ride , and best wishes for your future !!!
@@ScooterintheSticks to clarify ... I wasn't ready to die either . But looking back , I sometimes think , man what better way to go than on your dirt bike on a track .... ride'n it 'til the end 👍 🙏
Are the mirror extensions the same ones as available from Hitchcock motorcycles? Thanks.
I’m not sure. I got these I’m using from Baxter Cycle in Marne, Iowa.
Are radios no good? I remember all truckers would use CB radio. Does that network need radio masts within distance of main roads or can it be used off track? I mean the Army used radio communication in the field- did they have to cart around big batteries and masts in each base camp? I don’t know anything about them (obviously 😊)
Radios won't provide what I'm after -- location and emergency help. And the distance I am from home would not allow for communication with another radio. The Forest Service uses mobile radios sometimes but there is a lot of additional infrastructure to make it all work.
Nothing would be as good as the little Garmin InReach Mini 2. At least I don't think so. I'm still mulling the choices.
@@ScooterintheSticks I was only asking. I suspected there might not be enough coverage but wanted to ask in case someone knows. I will look up the Farmington option you mentioned.
I'm about to turn 55. Female. Took the Harley academy course last yr. Haven't bought a bike yet. Toss up between the HD street 500 and this Himalayan. I live in a rural 2 light town but it's growing and turning into suburban. Not looking for long distance riding. Maybe an HR or 2 out. Looking for commuting.
The Harley Davidson Street 500 and the Himalayan are almost like apples and oranges in terms of performance and capabilities. Unless you foresee a lot of off-pavement riding I would think the Harley would be a better choice. But you'll need to sort everything out for yourself.
The Harley will be at least 75 pounds heavier than the Himalayan. But the center of gravity is lower as well as the seat being 3.5 inches lower on the HD. A lot will depend on how fast you want to be going. The Harley is a lot faster.
My only advice is to go slow and take your time deciding. Try to test ride those bikes.
@@ScooterintheSticks Thanks . I live down a rural dirt road. But it will just be for commuting locally.
@@tracylawrence5258 Sounds like either would do the job then. You get to pick the one you like knowing it will be a good choice.
Btw i have a garmin mini and have had to use it once, a helicopter arrived within 30 minutes. This was a month after i bought it and obviously stoked i made the purchase
30 minutes for a helicopter. That's pretty good. I assume you are ok now?
You've pretty much sealed my decision about the InReach Mini.
Haha yea im sweet now, took a few months recovery. Very strange feeling to be zapped from a mountain to the city in a heartbeat
One thing to consider is you need to pay a subscription mine was 20$ a month to keep the service active
@@tamascott668 Here in the US the monthly fee for a InReach safety subscription is $11.95 a month if you buy an annual subscription. I have to think about whether I need it 12 months a year. I ride year round but likely not often in places without cell coverage in the winter.
If you ride year round thats money well spent I reckon and then having it in the back pocket might just prompt you up those dirt roads you wouldnt go otherwise 🤔
Cell coverage is pretty poor in Aus ill have to restart my subscription when i get me bike.
Have you done many camping trips with yours?
When I ride by myself, I use life360, so why wife/adult children will know my location.
I use Life360 as well as Find My on my iPhone so my wife has an idea of where I am. Unfortunately though I am off and in places with no cell coverage or Internet connections. So that app won’t work.
I think my only real option is something like the Garmin InReach Mini 2. I need more than location, I need to be able to reach out in an emergency and message about the situation. Hopefully you’ll never need to use it.
I’ll probably order one today. It seems the prudent thing to do for someone like me in my situation.
Safety is freedoms biggest enemy.
Well, I don't agree with you on the surface of your statement unless by safety you mean fear. And freedom is such an abstract term meaning so many different things to so many people that it requires amplification for any meaning.
What I will say though is that managing risk appropriately based on safety rather than fear will keep a person moving, active, and "free" longer than cowering in fear.
Climbers often use ropes and safety gear so they can freely ascend. Boxers use gloves and mouthpieces for safety so they can freely fight in the ring. And riders make sure their tires are in good shape, brakes work, and myriad other things to ensure their safety. I don't think safety is the enemy. I think fear is.
My two cents.
Why is it any less prudent to ride alone now than when you were younger? I think the only thing that has changed is your perception of risk. And having faced your own mortality, you are hoping to avoid the inevitable. Not going to happen.
A couple things have changed. At 69 I am not as strong as I once was. Dropping the Himalayan in an unfortunate way could me I can't pick it up. Or hurt myself in a manner that would not occur when younger.
And my first heart attack due to an arterial blockage means a second is survivable if I get the appropriate help. So being alone without cell coverage would have a more adverse effect. That's why a GPS messenger like the InReach seems prudent.
I'm comfortable with my mortality and am full aware that this life will end ready or not. But there's no reason to help it along when I can do a little managing. Mostly, it's not something I think about much because I manage my risks as a matter of living. I don't hold metal rods up in lightning storms, or play with matches around open gasoline cans, or poke hornet's nests with a stick. Riding alone is just another thing to consider and make an informed decision regarding risk. At my age now I am generally comfortable riding alone if I have a way to communicate if necessary. Hence the messenger unit.
That make sense?
@@ScooterintheSticks Time to hit the gym.
@@TheBigBlueMarble Gyms... those places are creepy. Instead I walk several miles every day with the dogs and use some free weights at home. I have to be careful though because of a back injury pole vaulting in high school. It still dogs me at times.
So I remain active and moving but even if I had the strength to move logs or pick up motorcycles I will be very, very careful lest I end up in bed again for months because of my back.
Some things can't be fixed at the gym, through surgery, by drinking water or eating better. Some things are just what they are and I have to work around them.
Because they are cheap bikes non Enfield owners jump to the must be junk conclusions .
Little do they know.
I've found my 2022 Royal Enfield Himalayan to be well made and durable. Runs great. Sometimes I think the simplicity of it leads riders to think it is of inferior quality versus just being short on features.
@@ScooterintheSticks Agreed
Thats why I down sized as I am fed up with modes and gadgetry .
More like two wheeled cars now