I really appreciate that y’all did it right by driving a copper ground rod in next to the table to prevent any ground loops/EM interference. Great work guys!
That's a nice machine. I do have two questions though.#1) Can you use oxy/propane? #2) Does it have any kind of fume removal system if you are plasma cutting stainless steel? Thanks for the demo guys!
The chuck needs a tailstock so that the pipe can be supported quickly ! Changing the height of those supports for every different size would be a pain.
Those supports look insubstantial. A single thread rod with a captive ball bearing roller does not butter my toast. Taikstock or real steady rest is needed. Also the flip out arm is cool but holy flexion batman watch the instructor change heads you can see the lateral deflection. Very cool machine otherwise. The antifreeze pool is a nice touch
@@Elbert_Heather I guess the reason they don't use a tailstock is because they want the cutoff to fall away. If you used a tailstock, it would jam up once it is cut through. But those supports would be a pain to adjust all the time. And they won't work with square tubing either. Hmmm....
well 5x10, No aluminum parts, 125amp plasma, oxy fuel option, cnc stencle, pipe rotator, flashcut pro 8 cad/cam/cnc, 480v 3 phase service, regulators for N and Ar , air cleaners, anti crosion fluid, exaust system, consumables, shipping, installation, training, 2 year parts and labor warranty. It adds up. New laser machines prob >100k
Earth ground? Electric panel should be earth grounded in one place already. Check local electric codes about multiple earth grounds as current loops can occur.
Nice machine, but the angle cut on the pipe was questionable. The outside of the cut had an outside angle, and the inside had an angle to the inside. I was hoping to see the head tilt to accommodate for this. Still its an impressive machine.
Yep completely agree that those angles would make for a very poor weld fitup. The outside open edge is ok but the reverse is the same on the inside where you can't fill it with weld. Really a bandsaw would do a much better job.
Not bad for a low/mid tier table. You get a pretty versatile product and the build quality seems ok for the most part. FlashCNC controllers are always a safe pick also. Service seems reasonable. Around how much for a table similar to this one?
Good day I Work, assemble machines with the same structure, only they have a table between the rails. My problem has been to align the rails on each side, to ensure parallelism and perpendicularity, preventing the gantry from crossing and stopping. The rails are located at a distance of 3 meters from each other. Know some technical and effective alignment system. So far I do it empirically with a tensioned steel wire.
"Hefty" price tag is relative. This is meant to be a workhorse and put money into your business pocket. If you have a business and the machine is making you more money per month than the lease on the machine, the machine is cheap and will pay for itself.
L O V E this channel!!! Keep up the GREAT work!! Great information passed on to anyone willing to listen / watch!! I’m a high school shop teacher and I’m interested in where you got your posters...always looking to dress up the shop with new decorations👍🏻 A BIG THANK YOU FROM CENTRAL MAINE!!!
There are so many plasma table manufacturers out there, that it’s really hard to know what to get. This table is somewhat unusual, because large 4x8 tables normally have the gantry running along the long sides. I suppose that because of the speciality fittings such as the pipe lathe. I do have to say that the first chuck looks to have been through some hard times.
the gantry running the opposite of most tables helps with loading the materials, additionally it rids on a rack and pinion system that is underneath the table sides as opposed to along the edge as is the case with most other tables. This actually helps to prevent damage when loading full sheets on to the table.
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8:42 we don’t do math.... fabricator vs engineer lol. I enjoy engineering then fabricating parts and equipment then when it comes to the next 500 letting somebody have that fun. One and done
Johann, that may be true, but I believe the old school method of providing a separate ground rod at each piece of equipment is responsible for the death of quite a high number of people. If the equipment is only bonded through the ground wire and something happens to that “safety”, then the backup should be this separate bonded system. If it is only bonded to the ground rod they showed us, the breaker will likely never trip resulting in energizing the entire piece of equipment.
@@milspecfpv Electrically speaking, you cannot establish a new ground without connecting it to the Ground at the service. The wire size needs to be determined by the size of the ampacity of the service. You cannot derive an new grounding system, there can only be one grounding system. If your equipment specs a supplementary ground It has to be derived from the existing system or it has to be electrically connected and sized according to article 250 of the National Electric Code. AKA NEC. NFPA 75
Mike Morrell, also, when I said “separate” in my previous comment, I didn’t mean isolated. I meant that the additional grounding point on the equipment needed bonded to the complete system, separate from the branch circuit ground wire. I should have been more clear. Thanks for clarifying.
Intrigued to know why the pipe cutter chuck has sugaring on it? Guessing the plasma cutter is passing a current through the pipe and trying to weld the pipe to the chuck?
Not a big fan of oxy- acetylene cutting. I'll stick with air plasma. You could drop that water level by 3/4", too messy with the blowback. Nice table, and it takes a 5'x10' x2" mild sheet. What did that cost as shown? Is that a single phase 220 unit?
@@offshorebear I seldom cut anything over an inch and a quarter. I've done my share of oxy-acetylene before air plasma became available. So much better.
Water jet make you lazy... it comes out without the need to clean or grind just go. Fireball Tools sharpened a knife with his and it was sharp off the water jet. Dream of having one of them...
That's so fucking cool... i could be a one man fabricating army with this beast. the sky is the limit with something like this. I'm jealous as all get out.
Do you have any issues with breathing the coolant blown into the air? At our college I have been hesitant about anything other than water as we will be breathing it all day.
@@phillhuddleston9445 no, it's called curiosity. Also I don't want to waste time getting a quote and all that b.s. some could easily just reply on here and "20k" or whatever it cost.
@@FreddyFunderbunz I agree but they do that so they can sell you on the machine that may be a higher price than people will initially be willing to pay. Upfront pricing is more honest though and better in my opinion as well. I'm guessing it is well over 20K.
i build cnc plasma tables and this is so sweet to watch , this is a great machine for shop use but for a industrial setting i recommend ArcCuttingIndustries . check em out!
Did you see that shitty mitre cut?? That was not a repeatable cut by any stretch of the imagination. Perfect example of not being able to trust any tool reviews by TH-camrs that were either given the product or loaned or heavily discounted and especially if the manufacturer sends one of their reps to help set the tool up and talk about it. Is it a neat machine?? Absolutely, but I don't think that it's anywhere close to being an industrial production machine. I'd say it'd be perfect in someone's garage that's maybe just a step above hobbyist. I do, however, love that scribe feature, but I could make a purpose built machine just for something like that. I'll go look at how much they're wanting for these. I got a feeling they're gonna demand your first born plus the heart of some small cute animal.
That Angled Pipe Cutting is not what i would expect. This machine is definitely not good for Angled Pipe Cutting. It lacks third axis. Otherwise, it looks good for what it is made for... cutting stuff.
i hhhhhhhhhaaaate it when companies hide the price on their webside. whats the point, they have to tell anyway. or is it a secret even when you buy it? you just give them your credit card
Can someone give me a 5x10 or larger plasma between $15 & 20k that is worth the money. Ive been cnc routing with wood for years I want to start incorporating metal. I see so many mixed reviews online for plasma tables/cutters...looking for an experts input. THANKS!
Below is pricing for base machine, 3 different table sizes all with the Hypertherm 45XP Plasma System Pricing starting at: 4x4 $24,450 4x8 $27,600 5x10 $31,150 If you are looking for other plasmas and options email us at cuttingmachines@koike.com or 1-800-252-5232 x430 We are more than happy to help you.
It’d be nice if people in videos like this disclosed what the cost was. I called Lincoln to inquire about a 5x10 table, and received a quote for $80K. After doing some simple math, I quickly realized these companies make about 300% profit on their tables.
Below is pricing for base machine, 3 different table sizes all with the Hypertherm 45XP Plasma System Pricing starting at: 4x4 $24,450 4x8 $27,600 5x10 $31,150 If you are looking for other plasmas and options email us at cuttingmachines@koike.com or 1-800-252-5232 x430 We are more than happy to help you.
I really appreciate that y’all did it right by driving a copper ground rod in next to the table to prevent any ground loops/EM interference. Great work guys!
That magnet tool holder is pretty rad
Much much more simple than programming offsets and stuff
I actually mold the nylon cable carrier on that machine!
We run two plasma tables. Have never had the chance to run oxy. Very nice demo. Thank you. Nice to see oxy up close.
That's a nice machine. I do have two questions though.#1) Can you use oxy/propane? #2) Does it have any kind of fume removal system if you are plasma cutting stainless steel?
Thanks for the demo guys!
The chuck needs a tailstock so that the pipe can be supported quickly ! Changing the height of those supports for every different size would be a pain.
Those supports look insubstantial. A single thread rod with a captive ball bearing roller does not butter my toast. Taikstock or real steady rest is needed. Also the flip out arm is cool but holy flexion batman watch the instructor change heads you can see the lateral deflection. Very cool machine otherwise. The antifreeze pool is a nice touch
@@Elbert_Heather I guess the reason they don't use a tailstock is because they want the cutoff to fall away. If you used a tailstock, it would jam up once it is cut through. But those supports would be a pain to adjust all the time. And they won't work with square tubing either. Hmmm....
There definitely needs to me an angular tube option.
This is one of those machines without a price tag , if you have to ask you can't afford it
About 55k shipped and installed
WHAT, more than a Langmuir Pro then? 🤣
@@jamestiberius9066 hahahaha55k for that?
@@jamestiberius9066 Ouch. That's laser kind of money.
well 5x10, No aluminum parts, 125amp plasma, oxy fuel option, cnc stencle, pipe rotator, flashcut pro 8 cad/cam/cnc, 480v 3 phase service, regulators for N and Ar , air cleaners, anti crosion fluid, exaust system, consumables, shipping, installation, training, 2 year parts and labor warranty. It adds up. New laser machines prob >100k
Earth ground? Electric panel should be earth grounded in one place already. Check local electric codes about multiple earth grounds as current loops can occur.
Agree. I dont believe you can have a seperate earth for your equipment ground for that reason. Not sure why they can't hit the building.
I belive that earth ground is only to prevent high frequency radio interference caused by the HF pilot start of the plasma torch.
Ground rods at the plasma table is to dissipate static charges that can raise havoc with the controller, it is not the system ground.
Thanks for info
The tasks I could complete with one of those!
Nice machine, but the angle cut on the pipe was questionable. The outside of the cut had an outside angle, and the inside had an angle to the inside. I was hoping to see the head tilt to accommodate for this. Still its an impressive machine.
Danylo66 i wonder what that would add to the over all cost ?
if the plasma head can tilt to a specific angle less than 90 ..it will cut the pipe right
Seemed that the outer part of the angle was cut like that to compensate for the 'welding' process/filling.
Yep completely agree that those angles would make for a very poor weld fitup. The outside open edge is ok but the reverse is the same on the inside where you can't fill it with weld. Really a bandsaw would do a much better job.
@@junang3 yes but the reverse is true and you can't weld the inside.
REally cool how the rotary head is integrated into the table.
Tool envy at max capacity! Very nice piece of equipment.
Not bad for a low/mid tier table. You get a pretty versatile product and the build quality seems ok for the most part. FlashCNC controllers are always a safe pick also. Service seems reasonable. Around how much for a table similar to this one?
Good day
I Work, assemble machines with the same structure, only they have a table between the rails. My problem has been to align the rails on each side, to ensure parallelism and perpendicularity, preventing the gantry from crossing and stopping. The rails are located at a distance of 3 meters from each other. Know some technical and effective alignment system. So far I do it empirically with a tensioned steel wire.
A fine specimen . Great versatility but a HEFTY price tag I'm sure. Love it. 👍
"Hefty" price tag is relative. This is meant to be a workhorse and put money into your business pocket. If you have a business and the machine is making you more money per month than the lease on the machine, the machine is cheap and will pay for itself.
That is a brilliant piece of equipment. Great video too of course!
L O V E this channel!!! Keep up the GREAT work!! Great information passed on to anyone willing to listen / watch!!
I’m a high school shop teacher and I’m interested in where you got your posters...always looking to dress up the shop with new decorations👍🏻
A BIG THANK YOU FROM CENTRAL MAINE!!!
That's awesome. Thank you!
Newbie asking a stupid question, why/when would you use oxy over plasma?
Thicker materials.
I love the placement of the grounding!!
That table is crazy! Magnetic heads/attachments, the pipe chuck on the end with fume extraction right through it.
There are so many plasma table manufacturers out there, that it’s really hard to know what to get. This table is somewhat unusual, because large 4x8 tables normally have the gantry running along the long sides. I suppose that because of the speciality fittings such as the pipe lathe. I do have to say that the first chuck looks to have been through some hard times.
the gantry running the opposite of most tables helps with loading the materials, additionally it rids on a rack and pinion system that is underneath the table sides as opposed to along the edge as is the case with most other tables. This actually helps to prevent damage when loading full sheets on to the table.
We bought a Lincoln 5100 a few months ago with a 200 amp machine. It has the oxy cut option. We hardly use that option.
I'm not really sure why anyone would use oxy/fuel if they have access to plasma.
@@sparkythawelder our plasma only goes to inch and a quarter but we can cut up to three inches with oxy.
Never seen someone put a ground through the floor. Normally you run everything outside and then ground.
Probably has something to do with emi
oh wow that pipe rotator is the best part of this machine. awesome awesome. thumbs up
I need one of these, we had one at the shop I worked at before going self employed. Man was it nice!! Great video!!
I'm so interested in that thing. Thank you for showing that off, you guys.
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The pipe cutting is cool but Langmuir is the way I’m going.
8:42 we don’t do math.... fabricator vs engineer lol. I enjoy engineering then fabricating parts and equipment then when it comes to the next 500 letting somebody have that fun. One and done
Looks expensive. Love the interchangeable heads.
They're not as much as you would think. I believe the base price on the Shop Pro 510 is around 28K.
@@Welddotcom could you guys do an extensive review of the software? I'm in the market for a bigger table. Ease of use is a big deciding factor for me.
I returned mine because it wouldn’t fit in my apartment
Wow that is a beautiful machine
Is that new "earth ground" bonded to the building utility ground? If not, why?
The Power to the CNC is already bonded to the Building and ground to Earth.
Johann, that may be true, but I believe the old school method of providing a separate ground rod at each piece of equipment is responsible for the death of quite a high number of people. If the equipment is only bonded through the ground wire and something happens to that “safety”, then the backup should be this separate bonded system. If it is only bonded to the ground rod they showed us, the breaker will likely never trip resulting in energizing the entire piece of equipment.
@@milspecfpv Electrically speaking, you cannot establish a new ground without connecting it to the Ground at the service. The wire size needs to be determined by the size of the ampacity of the service. You cannot derive an new grounding system, there can only be one grounding system.
If your equipment specs a supplementary ground It has to be derived from the existing system or it has to be electrically connected and sized according to article 250 of the National Electric Code. AKA NEC. NFPA 75
Mike Morrell: Exactly. Haha. I wasn’t going to go that far into it yet though. Thanks!
Mike Morrell, also, when I said “separate” in my previous comment, I didn’t mean isolated. I meant that the additional grounding point on the equipment needed bonded to the complete system, separate from the branch circuit ground wire.
I should have been more clear. Thanks for clarifying.
What was the lighter or striker y’all used to light the torch around 12 minutes into the video. I have never seen one of those before
I'm surprised that the magnet holds down the engraver good enough to do that it didn't look very strong
why dont you coat the chuck with some mig gun anti splatter grease
Intrigued to know why the pipe cutter chuck has sugaring on it? Guessing the plasma cutter is passing a current through the pipe and trying to weld the pipe to the chuck?
Do I need one? $29k+ plus shipping, divide by 4 year payment plan $750 a month to have one....bill out at $90 per hour. Such a damn cool tool tho.
Super cool equipment.
Begging for money around Christmas. Now bought a brand new laser cutter
🤔
I need one of these
But what abould pipe cutting square Tube?
very impresive, may I know the softwear you were using for the plasma
Can you install a 4 jaw and chuck up square or rectangular stock?
It can be done. Probably not on this table but some table do square tubing.
@@Dislob can you suggest a brand?
Not a big fan of oxy- acetylene cutting. I'll stick with air plasma. You could drop that water level by 3/4", too messy with the blowback. Nice table, and it takes a 5'x10' x2" mild sheet. What did that cost as shown? Is that a single phase 220 unit?
You can't cut thick plate on plasma. Unless you also use a laser.
@@offshorebear I seldom cut anything over an inch and a quarter. I've done my share of oxy-acetylene before air plasma became available. So much better.
@@northerniltree True, but it doesn't work at 8" plus.
@@offshorebear
Yes you can, I've got a ESAB 1500 90 amp machine that cuts 1.25" plate like butter.
@@tubeonline629 I have to cut 4" plate with 45 degree bevels.
Its a great time to be in the trade!
No mention of the Yellow Magswitch Part Grabber, how could you have missed that one?
U.S. marine do you have a favorite welding song while you welding i like to listen to MADONNA -INTO THE GROOVE
CNC is so cool, but damn would it make me lazy 🤣
barnzy104 or more creative.
@@GodslilRedneck23 more productive for sure
Water jet make you lazy... it comes out without the need to clean or grind just go. Fireball Tools sharpened a knife with his and it was sharp off the water jet. Dream of having one of them...
@@fryreartechnology7611 that's a good point haha
You will end up spending more time programming and less time fabricating. But definitely a boost to productivity and consistency.
What’s the point of the water mixture over just water?
That's so fucking cool... i could be a one man fabricating army with this beast. the sky is the limit with something like this. I'm jealous as all get out.
There's no link in the description for Koike
love you guys THANKS FOR EVERYTHING
Do you have any issues with breathing the coolant blown into the air? At our college I have been hesitant about anything other than water as we will be breathing it all day.
Theyr ofte glycol based wich is a main ingriedient in vapeing liquids so it probably isnt to bad but im no machining expert or healt expert
Nice freaking unit!!
Wow that thing is cool
Was the Flashcut software an upgrade or is that the standard for this table?
Flashcut professional is part of the package with the ShopPro, no upgrade needed
@@KoikeAronsonRansome awesome! Thanks.
Can’t wait to get mine
wouldn't you want to be able to angle the head for cutting weld coupons or is that not what you going to use this for?
That's a really nice setup!
How’s bob he ok
R.i.p. bob
need cnc plasma ; thanks, mostly dor cutting duct ,ss and al and galva
I have dumb question ,why would you use oxy acetylene if it has plama on it just wondering
makes me want mountain dew
Me too
Why would you want oxy if you have plasma? (Genuine question, I don’t know the answer).
Flashcut FTW! Have the same software on my plasma table. No better option out there.
It looks too expensive.
If you know what your doing that table would pay for itself in a year or 2.
@@MoFab_Industries AND if you bought it for a business.
@@shreddder999 there's plenty of hobby tables out there that are cheaper.
How much for the shop pro?
web site is crap
@@floridabeardedwoodworker yeah I don't want a quote, just the damn price
@@FreddyFunderbunz I bet it's one of those things that if you have to ask______.
@@phillhuddleston9445 no, it's called curiosity. Also I don't want to waste time getting a quote and all that b.s. some could easily just reply on here and "20k" or whatever it cost.
@@FreddyFunderbunz I agree but they do that so they can sell you on the machine that may be a higher price than people will initially be willing to pay. Upfront pricing is more honest though and better in my opinion as well. I'm guessing it is well over 20K.
i build cnc plasma tables and this is so sweet to watch , this is a great machine for shop use but for a industrial setting i recommend ArcCuttingIndustries . check em out!
That different wide bridge not so deep table.
Jealous,... I am just jealous! Have fun 😎
Did you see that shitty mitre cut?? That was not a repeatable cut by any stretch of the imagination. Perfect example of not being able to trust any tool reviews by TH-camrs that were either given the product or loaned or heavily discounted and especially if the manufacturer sends one of their reps to help set the tool up and talk about it.
Is it a neat machine?? Absolutely, but I don't think that it's anywhere close to being an industrial production machine. I'd say it'd be perfect in someone's garage that's maybe just a step above hobbyist. I do, however, love that scribe feature, but I could make a purpose built machine just for something like that. I'll go look at how much they're wanting for these. I got a feeling they're gonna demand your first born plus the heart of some small cute animal.
That Angled Pipe Cutting is not what i would expect. This machine is definitely not good for Angled Pipe Cutting. It lacks third axis. Otherwise, it looks good for what it is made for... cutting stuff.
i hhhhhhhhhaaaate it when companies hide the price on their webside. whats the point, they have to tell anyway. or is it a secret even when you buy it? you just give them your credit card
Hey! does that pipe say weld.com?
Real nice technology 💥
hey guys how much that machine cost same setup
How bout them chief's!!!!!!
NOT NOW DAMIT!!
no product link
How much is this exact set up?
What's happening with Bob? I sincerely hope his son is ok in services.
Bob is interviewed on this weeks (2/03/2020) welding tips and tricks podcast
Can someone give me a 5x10 or larger plasma between $15 & 20k that is worth the money. Ive been cnc routing with wood for years I want to start incorporating metal. I see so many mixed reviews online for plasma tables/cutters...looking for an experts input. THANKS!
Now that looks expensive, very expensive.
wakefieldyorkshire very very expensive
WOW!
Ooooohhh fancy!
Odd place to put a earth stake,
very versatile indeed.
Hey Bob, ya coming back???
CNC porn right there. Man that's nice. Better than a new car
Just as expensive and more expensive than some.
@@phillhuddleston9445 right. I'd take the CNC table over any of the junk they're passing off as cars these days
Sick machine guys....way out there f my price lol...but awesome
I think bob is gone 🤔 if so maybe this channel should turn into a CWI channel i think that’s the other guys strength and bob did the welding
how much? their web site sucks!!
Seriously, give me a ballpark price at least. I'm not going to request a quote with all my info.
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Below is pricing for base machine, 3 different table sizes all with the Hypertherm 45XP Plasma System
Pricing starting at:
4x4 $24,450
4x8 $27,600
5x10 $31,150
If you are looking for other plasmas and options email us at cuttingmachines@koike.com or 1-800-252-5232 x430 We are more than happy to help you.
It’d be nice if people in videos like this disclosed what the cost was. I called Lincoln to inquire about a 5x10 table, and received a quote for $80K. After doing some simple math, I quickly realized these companies make about 300% profit on their tables.
It takes a lot more than simple math to calculate a company's profit margins.
Below is pricing for base machine, 3 different table sizes all with the Hypertherm 45XP Plasma System
Pricing starting at:
4x4 $24,450
4x8 $27,600
5x10 $31,150
If you are looking for other plasmas and options email us at cuttingmachines@koike.com or 1-800-252-5232 x430 We are more than happy to help you.
That is sick how much is the mortgage on something like this lol
How much is this stuff?
That is insane man what’s next
Damn i want one !
Too many people lately are using the word "absolutely" too often and for no good reason.
A sweet, full feature fabrication shop with some cheap @$$ shelves from chyNA holding the helmets...... :0
Nice ad