I Filled a Keyboard With AEROGEL... (So You DON'T Have To)
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Thabk you so much hypio also I jsut saw ur vid when u fly outta SeaTac bruhhhhh that was me that day and I missed my flight:( loll
The playdoh one was a fail, but try blutack, my newest video shows it but I didn't fill it completely as I already used 10 packs, inside the case, keycaps and top frame.
I have a question, can you fill a keyboard with water?
@@galaxybearplays you could if you used some tough water tight bags but I think your best bet would be to get some orbeez in some water tight bags and fill your case like that.
@@chubeviewer Yea probably
Foam vs No Foam sounds 100% exactly the same to me
This
the aerogel tho
Same , but the aerogel insulation foam was really good
If you listen carefully, the timbre is ever so slightly noisier on the no foam one, but it's barely noticeable. idk if it's a mic problem or it's like that irl.
You guys might all want to try listening through different speakers or headphones. At least to me they sound pretty clearly different
I use this thing used to dampen sound in cars, it's like thin aluminium on one side and some sticky black stuff on the other side. kills noise and ping dead. Love it.
Probably a butyl rubber mat. Kilamat is a popular brand for that type of material.
is it noico sound deadener?
Which material do you use? Got a link on amazon?
yeah and i use it for my keyboard as well
Dynamat
Can you fill a keyboard with mineral oil? Surely a liquid dampens noise better than foam or gel
Sound travels better off of and through most liquids. Oil would likely mute it a bit, but it would be a sloshy mess to fill it enough to contact the PCB or generate a higher pitch keystroke sound from reducing the effective size of the sound cavity. But hey, who isn't down for a sloppy, wet keyboard? hahaha
@@illitero Sound travels well through liquid but it also loses a *lot* of energy by changing mediums. Going through a liquid and crossing into air makes the sound dampen quite a lot.
@@auctoritate8254 science
@@illitero HOW ABOUT SLIME??
@@lenib9195 god damn it
Man! I hate when I need to fill my keyboard with random stuff thanks for doing this because I was planning to fill my new keyboard with aerogel but now thank god I don't have to
It sounds amazing tho
Kinda cool fact: one of the chemicals used to make aerogel, tetramethyl orthosilicate, is basically pure sand but in liquid form. It reacts with water to turn into its solid form, and becomes super super fine, but is insanely dangerous. This is because if you get it in your eyes it reacts with the water in your eyes and turns solid, but does so under the surface of your eyeballs, and causes permanent blindness. Also if you inhale it then it reacts with the water in your lungs, and having sand in your lungs is bad (shocker).
thanks for making my eyes hurt and drying my throat
silicon hates us
I call bull
Aerogel sheet insulation already exists, marketed as "Thermo Wrap". Could get a large enough piece that is 6mm thick for around $50.
Try to watch video till the end...maybe!?
The sound diffrence is actually impressive, next time just mask tape the whole sheet then cut it so there's no particles flying around :D
Or keep it in the plastic wrap while cutting and just mask the edges.
Found your channel and fell in love with keyboards. I saved up for a long time until I finally had enough to build a board, and my wife got me a prebuilt Drop CTRL before I could order the stuff.
Thx wife I love you. Might fill this thing with Aerogel.
To me foam and no foam sounded exactly the same BUT aerogel sounded deeply satisfying. I really want to see it full of the other aerogel now
Foam and no foam aren’t that different, but the aerogel obviously is supreme
Aerogel is commonly used as a insulator for heat (works amazingly well) and to catch space debris. There are lots of other uses but these two are the most common. I’m a bit late to the vid but I can try and answer some questions if anyone has some about aerogel. I’m currently working with it for research.
what does it feel like to squeeze
@@alexy5660 Its extremely brittle, so it just crushes to a bunch of little pieces. The dust and small crumbly pieces will stick to your hand a little bit since it tries to absorb the water and oil on your skin.
Is it ok being used like this? Someone else mentioned it hardening in your eyeball and I'm terrified - like, what if you rubbed your eye while building this or if it leaked
@@KukaiTori its extremely brittle so it crumbles easy. Its safe if you get it on you, it just likes to absorb the oil and moisture from your skin. Just wash your hands after and you're all good. It only hardens when you make it (manufacture). When it absorbs liquids and oils, it expands slightly, turns to more of a white color and basically turns to dust when you touch it or try and move it. If it gets in your eyes you just need to rinse it out well and you're all good.
The aerogel foam is a notable improvement over just regular foam. I'm shocked at how large of a sound difference there actually is!
i just had a thought... have you ever put cardboard in a keyboard? or even made a keyboard out of cardboard? that second one sounds like something that's probably been done before but either way it would be so interesting 👀
Flurples done it already and it's sounds blursedly good
ye put your pcb+plate in a cardboard box and try it, it's an awful amount of thock that echoes like a mf
Aerogel insulation beads would have been a very good choice for this. Sometimes it's formulated into a product used for insulation in high end housing
Oooh
That's what I used on my board and it's great. I put it on a stone case with Cerakeys
i must not be deep enough in the keyboard rabbit hole, cuz i honestly can't tell any difference in sound between the 3 of them lmao
Honest thoughts from someone who isn’t in the keyboard scene and only clicked because I wanted to see something done with aerogel (thanks a LOT) here’s what I thought of each noise.
No foam- my favorite of the bunch.
Foam- sounds exactly the same as no foam but like the audio was pitched up. Deeper sounded better.
Aerogel- sounded akin to our crazy neighbor Caryn from Las Vegas who would tap her acrylic fingernails really fast on our ceramic counter when she got really into talking very loudly about something that made her anxious. A bit too solid sounding and gave me shivers in a bad way. (Does this count as childhood trauma?)
My iPhone keyboard clicks through my headphones as I type this message that will get me hate probably- 10/10 😂
BUT- whoever this guy is, I like listening to him and his humor more than I like listening to the keyboards. My computer is a 2001 dell with a 20 year old crayola keyboard so maybe I’m biased to the nostalgic plasticky tapping sound.
FUCKING FINALLY SOMEONE WHO DOES IT! Thank you so much!
Edit: Get a number pad and fill it with the gel crystals.
I'm so relieved that I don't have to put aerogel in my keyboard anymore, thank you Hipyo Tech.
lol man legit stole the comment of the other guy and changed the first 3 words, lmao
love the sponsor segment hahah, 'they send me the product, they send me money, thats it' xD
Gives me way more freedom
Hipyo “Today let’s stick air inside of my keyboard” “erm I already have air inside my keyboard”
what if we take air out of the keyboard?
he actually did it I cant wait to see how it turned out also thanks for getting me into this hobby Hipyo I just built my first board like 2 weeks ago I've been watching your vids for a long time and now all my friends want me to build them boards HELP [TH-cam unsubscribed me form your channel a while ago I was so upset]
Same happened here
Rude TH-cam
You need to try butyl rubber tape. I think it would be a great build.
as far as I know, butyl rubber is whats used in products like kilmat (sound deadening material generally used in cars) which he has already made a video of.
should try Silly putty. i've had some sitting on a shelf for years! and it doesnt dry up
No foam sounds so satisfying and I adore loud clicks personally as someone who uses a typewriter :))
Wow, I couldn't tell the diff between the first two, but that last one with the aerogel insulator sounded pleasant. Didn't really have that high pitched click to it and was just nice and plastic clacks.
It's all well and good until bits of aerogel particles come in contact with your fingers. They can irritate the skin and eyes and some other parts outside and inside of your body. With that in mind, A small acoustical improvement is not worth it.
Bro mans just added the lightest solid on earth to mechanical keyboards basically making the perfect (hopefully) pair
I just buy a tube of 100% silicone calk and use that as a filler. You can use cornstarch to keep it from sticking and being a permanent mod. Also you can get grout silicone in a bunch of different colors at a tile store. Very cheap and effective and will fit any board.
Ugh, that's so backyard. There's silicone mold mixes with different viscosities and without the nasty ammonia that's contained in caulking. And why use cornstarch when there's mold release spray? If you want to do it, do it right.
@@MrMilarepa108 Its because its cheap and causes no issues. I'm not paying 25 dollars for mold release when cornstarch works just fine and I alredy have it. As far as the ammonia goes I don't care as the 100% silicone calk with no fungicide I use has no noticeable smell after it dries. If it's good enough for my bathtub it's good enough to be under a keyboard. Silicone is silicone. Be a elites prick If you want.
Thank you so much for completing one of my chores today, really means a lot. Now I can go fill my keyboard with mineral oil!
A Rode NT1 might not be the right mic to pick up the pinging well, I couldn't hear any difference between foam and no foam lol. NT1s are pretty dark so that may be why. iirc the NT1A is a bit brighter so it might bring out the pinging more. Anyways I'm gonna go order some aerogel padding for the keyboard I got for $4 with white alps clones. Swap on a PS/2 cable and it'll be good to go.
I wanted to do this but it was too expensive
theres also aerogel in the form of thin films which I think would work better than solid stuff
no it wouldnt... where the f did you ppl get the idea that aerogel was a sound dampener? cluelesssss
@@Alex-vm9ug because its used in home insulation
and just a guess but the porous structure of aerogel means sound would bounce a lot inside aerogel
@@placeholder3863 theres next to no material density in aerogel, youd need an unrealistic amount to provide any noticeable acoustic dampening. also... thermal Insulators and acoustic dampeners are not the same thing....
@@Alex-vm9ug but thermal insulators also block out noise, also why does density matter in this application?
@@placeholder3863 because density is what dampens sound waves? different ranges of densities and materials depending on the frequencies you are targeting. aerogel is 99% air....... 1% silica is going to do nothing. you may as well take a silicone sheet, cut it so that it only has a single molecular bond for height, and you will have yourself the equivalent of what aerogel can do for sound dampening, nothing.
aerogel was a massive improvement! yeah a win for science!
Would filling the base with candle wax be an interesting option?
Anyway, I always love the mod videos. Especially if they are slightly silly 😉
They almost sound the same to me. All I could think of, while you were typing, was Daffy Duck tap dancing trying to impress an audience LOL. Great information on the video.
I'd love to see a video where you try sound dampening by using a material call Basotect it is a material used by professional studios for acoustic treatment. It is the product of the company called BASF a german chemical company. Love your vids, really entertaining, and you got me hooked on mech keyboards ;)
i actually work at BASF, never heard of this definitely gonna have to look into this, sounds interesting
Technically aerogel could sue any product for being "lighter than air" based on false advertising.
But they don't cause they chill like that.
Huge fan of the low energy sass. Very much my kinda vibe
"It's like, a felt, that has little particles in it."
So like....gentle fiberglass?
For a good comparison!
No Foam: 8:09
With Foam: 9:07
3M makes a vibration dampening tape that works crazy well. Maybe tape-modding a keyboard with the super tape will lead to unlimited thocc.
It's aluminum... it was discovered by an American scientist and he named the element aluminum. The Oxford Dictionary decided it didn't sound "proper", and added the extra vowels, making it sound pretentious and terrible. The entire controversy started with self-imposed British superiority... fun stuff.
So glad I saw this before switching over. Gonna stick to peanut butter like my grandpa used to use when he was a kid.
The aerogel and with foam both sound better than without foam, but I might like the aerogel slightly better.
The aerogel also makes the biggest difference in sound.
Can you fill a keyboard with Radium next time? I wonder how it would sound
Maybe I'm weird, but I kind of like the sound of the no-foam. That slight metallic twang is kind of musical.
Na, me too
Nah it's normal, most higher-end boards don't use foam at all cause they sound good naturally
You should try brass plates then. I don't like it but I heard it makes a metallic clang and sounds musical, exactly like you described.
A thought for a cheaper sound blocking insulation to try: Roxul / Rockwool.
i personally prefer full size keyboards over compacts, but everyone has their own opinion
Only 10 seconds in and I already want to eat the jell
buckle ur seats folks, we revisitin " *the endgame* "......
How did the bird become free? It finally got out of aero jail
You have me wanting to mod my keyboard but I'm not sure what I'd do to it. Making it a bit louder and clickier without increasing the amount of force or actuation distance or something maybe, but that's probably just a matter of finding the right switches(currently Gateron Brown tactile switches for a mix of gaming, academic, and software development workloads). Hot swappable, so that mod would be pretty easy.
I probably spent a fair bit more than I had to for what I got, but whatever, still the best keyboard I've ever used(NZXT Function Full size).
the seams from the rings actually look really good to me. gives it some extra... structure? is that the word?
anyway i like it. i'm satisfied and i haven't even gotten to the aerogel yet
Shows how much things have changed for me since I got into this hobby. Hippyo is still one of my favorites but i think the FreeBird is better without foam
came for aerogell stayed for the velvet voice
After watching this video my Clicky video turned Thoccy it's a Miracle tnx for putting Aerogel in your keyboard Hipyo
I really like the idea of adding (So You Don't Have to) to the title of every video
I got a complimentary pink robin switch in a recent purchase from KFA, so I did what any curious keebnut would do and dissected that switch for lubing and HOO BOY them springs is chonky. They seem to be even heavier than the black inks I got in said purchase.
The aero.. gel.. foam was actually really good! Excellent sound.
I'm convinced this channel exists to gaslight me and tell me keyboards that sound exactly the same are in fact greatly different.
"otherwise my mana will run out oh god my mana is low please help" best part 11/10
hello, love your content.
Weird the Freebird75 apparently doesn’t come with Durocks like previous entries.
This is a very good neutral chaotic
That aerogel dampening sounds really good.
for _sure_ the aerogel. Holy shit the difference is huge.
But it's interesting because it doesn't sound like it just "dampens" the sound, it actually changes the resonance characteristics of the sound, and where the fundamental frequencies of the (switches? board?) are located. Especially obvious on the bigger keys like spacebar
This is the first video of yours that I have watched and keep hearing Andrew from Big Mouth, grown up lol
GOD DAMNIT! I haven't even bought my first board to mod and now I need to fill it with AEROGEL?!?!?!
Damn you Hipyo Tech, damn you to hell....
this is the keyboard where they GO BACK IN TIME TO THE FIRST THANKSGIVING TO GET TURKEYS OFF THE MENU
I think the "No Foam" sounded quite alright to begin with
Dude, I love your personality and the way you talk. Please don't go into politics on this channel. Subed and bells on.
why not try like shrink wrapping the aerogel foam so the powder doesnt get everywhere that might hurt the sound dampening properties though idk
Him:Sorry your retinas are probably burning right now.Me:Oh god please help my eyes are burning!!,!!!,,!!
No idea why I'm watching a video about keyboards but I'm glad I am
My keyboard normie self listening to the sound comparisons but can't really tell any difference : "Ah yes, the foam is good indeed"
Having studied stage technics, recording etc. it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me to use something really light like this as a sound damper. I mean sure, it would affect the way the sound reflects in the case, but to properly insulate sound needs mass.
I've never modded a keyboard, but just baaed on what I learned at school, I'd pick some material that's dense (heavy) but also irregular or porous. Like a really heavy foam mat or some natural rubber with an irregular surface.
Have you used PU/construction foam for a build jet?
I think the main draw of aerogel is as an insulator for high temperatures, right?
will you be reviewing / building the Zoom TKL?
this is neat but doesnt aerogel ha e the drawback of it losing its shape from constant pressure like that because its so much air that after a while the air will just be pushed out after 6 months to year of repeated use where the sound will end up just be back to as if there is no foam?
So after watching several of your videos, while I deep clean a 6 year old Razer black widow, am I correct in saying you don’t like clickity clackity? You want popped bubble wrap sounds?
Aerogel sounds really good
I was so confused with the title because Aerogel is very hard, and hard surfaces reflect sound. It's only really useful as a thermal insulator, so not really sure where the theory came from that it'd make for a good dampener. Good to know I was right in being dubious of its ability to dampen sound, I guess?
Office keyboard go brrrrr
hipyo plz do an expanding spray foam mod
That was the longest 13 minute video i have ever watched
and he didn't even use the damn aerogel :/
I want you to make a rustic 1700s pioneer keyboard out of wood and cast iron, then fill it with hay and pemmican. Now please.
i was not expecting that big of a difference omg
Thank you for your sacrifices, have a blessed day
I need that deskmat!
Hi Hipyo!
I recently started customizing my red dragon keyboard. I went for the Akko cs switches.I'm looking for keycaps now. The keyboard is 80%. Do you have any suggestions which are budget-friendly?Thanks.
Buy a tank of Argon Gas. Place a keyboard into a foil tray and slowly leal the Argon into the tray.
Best sound test ever.
Thank you, I was actually thinking of buying aerogel later this week
Aerogel sounds nice
Have you tried silicone baking mat material (which you can layer, and custom cut) or is that basically what you get from keeb manufacturers?
My eyeeeees! My eyeees!
what is the little magic stick used to screw in the screws on the keyboard?
"This is glass grade. I mean, you got...Jesus, you got crystals in here 2 inches, 3 inches long. This is pure glass. You're a damn artist! This is art, Mr. White!"
This is the first time I've seen this guy's videos, and they're honestly great.
aerogel makes it sound more full and lower pitched like creams almost